“Fukushima, the world’s permanent headache” — Gundersen: It will be bleeding into Pacific for next 100 years — ABC: “Greatest nuclear contamination of the ocean in history… it can’t be quantified… it’s a global issue” (AUDIO)

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Radio VR, June 9, 2014: Fukushima, the world’s permanent headache [...] Arnie Gundersen, a veteran nuclear engineer and director of Fairewinds Energy Education: “What the water did do is it went into the ground and is moving downward into groundwater, which will get to the ocean shortly. [...] The site is going to bleed into the ocean for a hundred years. [...] They have contaminated the entire groundwater underneath the site and eventually, all of that water will move into the Pacific.” >> Full broadcast here

ABC Radio (Australia), June 9, 2014:

  • Mark Willacy, ABC correspondent: [The ice wall project] shows you just how dire the situation is… This has never happened before… This is the greatest nuclear contamination of the ocean in history… [The amount released into ocean] can’t be quantified. It’s incredible amounts.
  • Steve Austin, Host: Don’t eat the fish oil caplets that come from the Pacific.
  • Willacy: If it doesn’t work we’re really back to square one… it is the great last hope that Tepco has and, I believe, the government. If it doesn’t work, I don’t think anyone knows how to solve this problem.
  • Willacy: It is a global issue.
  • Full ABC interview available here
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  • OldFool

    Actually, it might be possible to quantify it approximately. The Pacific Ocean can be estimated to have a bit less than 10 exp 18 cubic meters of water, or 10 exp 21 liters. If the total radioactive inventory is correctly estimated at about 10 exp 21 becquerels, then that will ultimately put about 1 becquerel in every liter (although that is assuming perfect mixing, which will take a really long time, so the short term concentration in the North Pacific should be much higher). If a typical bio-concentration factor of 3000 is assumed for fish higher on the food chain that eat other fish, then that should produce about 3000 becquerels per kilogram of fish meat in about 130 years. This will not be safe.


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    • OldFool

      This calculation was based on taking the total area of the Pacific and assume an average depth of 3900 meters, which if memory is correct should come up with less than 8 exp 17 cubic meters.


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      • OldFool

        To avoid confusion to some readers, the total volume of the Pacific was calculated to be less than 8 x 10 exp 17 cubic meters, which could be approximated as about 1 x 10 exp 18 cubic meters.


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        • davidh7426 davidh7426

          How does 6.60e+17 cubic meters sound for the Pacific Ocean, but as all of the worlds seas and oceans are connected, shouldn't the figure your using be something more along the lines of 13.35e+17 cubic meters.

          "Volumes of the World's Oceans from ETOPO1"

          http://ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/global/etopo1_ocean_volumes.html


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          • OldFool

            There is a world wide deep sea circulation current that connects the oceans in a 1600 year cycle time, but the main concerns – Cs-137 and Sr-90 – should not be a problem by that time. We should be most concerned about what happens in the next 300 years. The Pacific and especially the North Pacific will be the main point of action.


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            • OldFool

              It appears reasonable that the volume of the Pacific is about 7 x 10 exp 17 cubic meters, but I am not confident on the true magnitude of the radioactive inventory that will leaching out in water or deposited from air releases from the three cores. I am seeing estimates ranging from 1.675 x 10 exp 19 becquerels for only Sr-90 and Cs-137 together to higher numbers that include more isotopes. Some numbers are from TEPCO, some from others – but it is not easy to tell who is accurate in their total inventory radiation estimates. Therefore, the final becquerel count per liter is still not adequately certain.


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            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              OldFool, you are talking about the Largest Nuclear Industrial Accident, this event, to ever happen on Planet Earth and there will be many, many, more in the near future and therefor any calculations made today will not be of any value except for/concerning this most recent human induced Nuclear Technology disaster located in Fukushima, Japan.

              Certainly a wishful waste of time when you really put all things into a true perspective.. :(


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    • 2014 – Fukushima Ocean Radiation Compared To Chernobyl and 2,400 Open Air Nuclear Bomb Tests; via @AGreenRoad
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/05/fukushima-radiation-measured-in-pacific.html


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    • Stax Stax

      Alfred Webre/Leuren Moret – "Fukushima IS a weapon of mass destruction" , this vid is truly terrifying and puts paid to ALL shills.

      http://youtu.be/OKMxMFNUSpo


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    • We Not They Finally

      Honestly, the liter by liter quantifications can get extraneous and confusing. Nothing is spread out evenly. And the food chain doesn't divide itself into portions. Once the plankton goes, whatever feeds on it goes, and so on and so forth up the food chain. Bio-accumulation and bio-magnification both.

      Nor are there any accurate measurements being made of contamination. Whatever we are told, it always turns out to be exponentially greater. The damage is also WORSE generation by generation, not less.

      Many species are already going extinct, and rapidly: seastars, sardines, sea lions, pelicans, to name just a few.

      I don't want to get into any liter-by-liter. It gets pointless.


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      • OldFool

        There is a bit of method in my madness. The bio-concentration numbers (based on the US government Savannah River studies) take the per liter contamination levels in the water and project what the final per kilogram of fish meat contamination levels will be. In order to get an reasonable idea of the true danger (becquerels per kilogram) of the fish meat, a contamination amount per liter estimate is necessary for the ocean water.
        I am in total agreement that the total radiation inventory is simply too difficult to estimate and also it will probably take at least centuries for the contamination to equalize throughout the entire Pacific, so the wiser choice would be simply estimate more accurately with the premise that the entire inventory is going to go into the North Pacific as far as the Sr-90 and Cs-137 are concerned, since they will not be an issue in 300 years. In this case, the Sr-90 and Cs-137 should reach about 50 becquerels per cubic meter, but again they are likely to spike higher locally within currents before equalizing throughout the North Pacific over many years. The Sr-90 and Cs-137 alone should reach about 150 becquerels per kilogram in fish assuming about 3000 as the bio-concentration factor from the Savannah River studies. I doubt this would be a safe level for human consumption.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    If the Frozen Wall doesn't work, they will simply build an Impermeable Wall, of interlocking sheet steel pilings. This would work perfectly fine, and is already 1/4 completed. The Frozen Wall is actually a very bad idea that arose when the government wanted to take over leadership from TEPCO.


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    • We Not They Finally

      PUN, as you surely already know, they will not "surely build" ANYTHING. Even if they should/could/would, which hard hats get to go on site to set up construction?

      It may have been a very good idea to start, but not going to happen.


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Don't call me "shirly". :)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA

        Seriously, WNTF. The Pacific Ocean Ecosystem is pretty obviously in a state of collapse. The frozen wall will fail. Simply because the groundwater is being heated by one or more underground Rogue Nuclear Reactors. The ground simply will not freeze. They will try for a year or two. Then, their dumb nuclear engineers and nuclear scientists will give them the bad news that the ground will never freeze. They will abandon the Frozen Wall effort. What, pray tell, WNTF, will they do then?


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  • Livingonearth

    Not for " next hundred years " …

    Radioactivity will be bleeding into Pacific , into life chains,into the whole Planet, into our genomes

    for next HUNDREDS THOUSANDS YEARS

    All that to get some "to cheap to meter " hot water and some money .

    I feel sad and despaired beyond any words

    Peace to all while it's still time


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    • norbu norbu

      Arnie, you say a Permanent Headache. And then "100" years of Bleeding? Maybe the site will be under water within 100 years? This makes no sense. NON SENSE! Corium's are not going to stop any time soon. To stop the "Bleeding" as Arnie is speaking of, they would need to contain this Nuclear Beast. odd choice of words. How about spewing NUCLEAR TOXIC WASTE for a million years. The only way out of this mess is a Miracle. I pray every day for the removal of all man made Nuclear Energy from this Universe.
      N


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      • We Not They Finally

        He think he already knows that…. He just tones things down, spoon feeds. But surely he already knows. He's also functioning in a world where virtually no one says anything, at least not to date. So he sets the bar "somewhere" and we all devolve from there on in.


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    • AlexfromNB

      "It will be bleeding into Pacific for next 100 years"

      But Fukushima will be the source of death and misery for hundreds of thousands of years…

      We truly live in an age of insanity!


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Ergo: They are/must work very hard and very fast now too achieve… Livingoffearth. :)


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    • hbjon hbjon

      And I hope they survive and achieve their immortality. I really do.
      The technology exists for them to shuttle up to the solar powered space station and live in frozen animation until they're thawed out as the vessel spirals into the sun millions of years from now. Or, perhaps they never thaw out again and drift aimlessly through the voids of intergalactic space. Frozen smiles on their faces.


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  • Seeker

    @obewan
    Please clarify Livingoffearth–do you mean continuing to exploit earth and/or arranging to leave earth?

    There has been a debate forever on how the PTB plan to keep themselves safe:
    –they have secret antidotes
    –they will go underground
    –they will go off planet
    –the Demonic with whom they work has assured them they will not be affected
    –as psychopaths they love destruction so strongly that they don't care if their own comes as well (this may be subconscious)
    –other?

    Oh how I hope you see this post! Merci mille fois,


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  • SadieDog

    Japan govt says radiation levels still high in areas around Fukushima ..
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20140610_81.html


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    • SadieDog

      "Despite the reductions, all the figures were more than 10 times higher than the government-set level of 0.23 microsieverts per hour that requires decontamination.

      The government will now consider whether to carry out full-scale decontamination of these areas after asking former residents whether they hope to return to their hometowns."


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    • SadieDog

      "For residents of areas where evacuation orders are still in place, the government will cover the cost of purchasing homes if people want to start new lives elsewhere. They will also receive lump sum compensation for the mental distress they could suffer after 2017."


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      • Ontological Ontological

        I don't get a lump sum for my horrible suffering from skull cancer the bastards blessed me in May of 2011! I don't get SHIT WTF they do to be so deserved? I do not get ANYTHING from ANYONE even if I ask…So what difference do you think there is from people in pne certain area deserving more than others affected world WIDE???


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      You can not clean this stuff up.. :(


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  • Occupant Occupant

    A few years after plants and animals stop reproducing, then they will ask for a total ban on all nuclear plants, to be phased out over the next 500 years. Stupid governments.


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  • ftlt

    Don't worry about FUFU, Arnie. In a hundred years, the world we know will be gone and there will be at least 100 or maybe 1000's of FUFUs at the nuclear disaster party.

    The rapidly aging nuclear infrastructure will begin to fail at accelerated rates. We are now seeing it now at WIPP and Hanford. And how many more site like these have been kept secret or forgotten? We do know that, the beyond massive amounts of this most toxic of all materials ever created have been left laying around and forgotten everywhere and are in the care of a strange for profit world of nuclear garbage collectors – whose bottom line is, of course, profit.

    The "Nuclear Cleanup Future" has always been one of a put-off-today-what-can-be-done-tomorrow and we will deal with that later mentality. Hello! Tomorrow was yesterday!

    All things Nuclear have always been shrouded with the protective no-see-through coatings of terminology like progress, science, defense etc. You know the words. And most importantly, "no responsibility" – that is for the end nuclear benefactors, = the customers, to deal with. YIKES!

    Sadly, nuclear is just one of the long list of great problems we have created for ourselves in our self inflicted hyper growth world of the last 200 years.

    Yet, our biggest problems are not of our making – they are the flaws within our very nature as humans – our hubris and greed.

    We're screwed.


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    • ftlt

      I was listening to a KPFA radio show the other day – by mistake. One of the touchie feelie ones (one of their hipster reactionary metaphysical/esoteric types that sadly litter that fine station) was doing that segment. This wacked-out commentator on there was telling all, that they needed to enlighten themselves and not worry about changing things – as this is the path to a collective global conscientiousness that by itself would change the world.

      These Midway grifters could and should go to work for the nuclear industry. What utter crapola they sell.

      The caller, I heard, was upset and was mentioning a list of problems that included FUFU. That person was blamed for not addressing their own inner self first to change the world.

      If I had had a hammer in my hand, I would have smashed the radio.


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      • GQR2

        It sounds smash worthy. That is one method by which the left is infiltrated useful new agey idiots in the place of intellectual discourse about current events.

        ( i apologize was wrong about you i was projecting no doubt about it,i hope you'll still chat with me)


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Yes, we are screwed and we, the commentators here, would now be part of that new growing "collective global conscientiousness" which at some point in the future will expect/demand change.. :)

        You/we are all very important my friends and we must push forward and continue to spread the enenews.. :)


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        • You are wise Obe.. both answers are correct.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Thanks, Doc! :) It will be a long lonely road but we here will prevail… :)


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          • There is no winning or losing. There are just choices, and consequences.

            What may make the path easier is forgiveness, mercy, gratitude, prayer and love oriented towards what works for seven future generations.

            Otherwise, we are stuck with the eye for an eye, revenge game, which is no fun, when it is your turn to be on the receiving end of genocide..

            Oh yea, this may be another one of those times.. only this time, EVERYONE is potentially on the receiving end. Time will tell..


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              • Angela_R

                "Love that post, doc g," me too
                simplified, it reads 'let go'

                and for those younger than I am, for the sake of hope, I would add the other phrase,
                so it reads
                "let go, let God"
                the right God, the God of care,

                With Dr. Goodheart, may we put to bed, the god of anger and the god of vengeance…


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            • hbjon hbjon

              How can genocide be justified for those that have been maimed for life by radiation exposure? There are victims of many kinds of assaults that become maimed for life. What do you do with them? Eye for an eye leaves the whole world deaf, dumb, and blind. There was a movie called Platoon where a soldier initiated a death sentence to a handicapped man for looking weird. There are some victims of vicious attacks that have been maimed for life and have anger problems. Should they be put to sleep too. Love the post Doc G really gets one thinking.


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  • Nick

    FUBARFAT

    F'd up beyond recognition for all time.

    Anything else y'all don't understand about awol cores?

    The shills can shill and the liars can lie, but the truth shall prevail.

    Problem is, it sucks.


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  • Nick

    So, what do we do?

    I suggest global mass insanity with a touch of compassion for each other as we all sink into the abyss of our sleepless nights and tortured days.

    Expect more bizarre behavior from hominids, as our cellular structures mutate and oxidize into babbling idiothood.

    Everywhere nuclear toxins have spread = sorrow, disease, and decay.

    DU is not any better than FD-NPP's oozing radioactive atoms.

    All nuclear waste eventually wastes us all…..


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  • Nick

    The problem is, most hominids don't have enough functioning brain cells to even remotely understand the nuclear peril that we are faced with.

    The stuff is basically invisible so why get in a tizzy about it?

    Because……the stuff is TATAL. Toxic at the Atomic Level.

    You irradiate brain cells…they die.

    Humans are probably zapping more brain cells than the total number of stars in the Universe!

    Add up all that destruction and you get people shooting each other.

    Our world is violent because we have unleashed violent atoms everywhere.

    Everything becomes additive. Snowball effect. a permanent headache is to put it mildly. I'd say the world is suffering from
    brain wasting disease.

    There will be no more sanity in a few generations at this rate.


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  • Each industry appears to think that "just a little" pollution is okay, no problem.

    In the same way, each nuclear expert (who is not an epidemiologist) seems to think that "just a little" nuclear effluence is okay, no problem, maybe even good for you!

    Combine all these "just a little"s into one (like a pointillist work of art) and the picture, though ugly, gets clearer.

    Well, I don't believe the industry spokespersons and I surely don't believe the nuclear experts. They don't have the broader, independent view of the doctors and epidemiologists.

    Human Activity Driving Earth Towards Global Extinction Event
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNARow5fTO8&list=TLQFSD6RKm9-KYxAfBucRxXv8uayoBIJ23


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  • nuclear pollution nuclear pollution

    C-span “Fukushima Task Force” hearings….. Did YOU watch them?

    Here’s a brief re-cap but watch the hearings:

    (1) Sen. Boxer of California was stellar reminding everyone that NONE of the 12 'Fukushima Task Force' recommendations have been implemented yet.

    She also showed a frightening photo of the recent fire blazing within 1/2 a mile of San Onofre nuclear power plants' spent fuel pools, which are at double capacity. (3600 spf's)

    (2) Sen. Markey of Massachusetts was also stellar. He said whistleblowers contact him all the time, and 75% of whistleblowers who go through the formal method of whistleblowing end up with poor performance appraisals.

    Sen. Markey also sponsored the “Dry Cask Storage Act” to get spent fuel now in water into dry cask storage.

    REMINDER: 4 of 5 NRC Commissioners voted AGAINST dry cask storage.

    He was also concerned that Chinese nationals were allowed into U.S. nuclear power plants.

    (3) These pro-nuclear Senators were vocally supportive of the nuclear industry. Vote them out if they are your senators.

    - Sen. Cardin (D) Maryland

    - Sen. Vitter (R) California

    - Sen. Whitehouse (D) Rhode Island wants to promote advanced nuclear technologies like small modular reactors.

    - Sen. Sessions (R) Alabama was particularly pro-nuclear…stating the old lies that there have been “zero deaths” due to nuclear energy and that nuclear energy has a “tremendous safety and environmental record” and is “no carbon”


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    • nuclear pollution nuclear pollution

      part 2

      Sen. Inhofe (R) Oklahoma said dry storage of spent-fuel is not substantially safer and would cost the industry $4 billion dollars to put spent-fuel into dry casks. He criticized Germany’s transition away from nuclear energy.

      Sen. Barrasso (R) Wyoming said he believes storing nuclear waste in wet pools is “safe” and Wyoming has a lot of uranium so we “must continue to build new nuclear power plants”

      WATCH the hearings:

      http://www.c-span.org/video/?319755-1/nuclear-safety


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      • nuclear pollution nuclear pollution

        QUESTION:

        In the 'Fukushima Task Force' hearings, at least 2 of the NRC Commissioners said the spent fuel pools at Fukushima didn't get damaged.

        Is that true???

        http://www.c-span.org/video/?319755-1/nuclear-safety

        Here are the 5 NRC Commissioners:

        Allison Macfarlane
        William Ostendorff
        George Apostolakis (his term is up this month-wants another term)
        William Magwood (leaving for a new nuclear job soon)
        Kristine Svinicki

        http://www.c-span.org/video/?319755-1/nuclear-safety


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        • unincredulous unincredulous

          From 9:17 -10:45 minutes:

          Senator David Vitter says after 10:30 that he thinks nukes should play a role in our energy supply with the safety and confidence of the American people.

          Beginning at 9:17 he talks about an subversive and undercover effort to kill nuke power in USA.

          What if the confidence of the American people is not there? What if the American people want to kill nuke power production. Are they then subversive elements in our society?

          Hanford, Fukushima, WIPP, Chernobyl, Cancer, DNA damage, Death. I guess I'm a subversive veteran of the U.S. military.

          At 17:17 Senator Jeff Sessions says no one in the Nuclear industry has even been made sick, to the best of his knowledge. Wow. He is a real dummy, or a good liar, huh? What about the navy sailors suing Tepco? He is so stupid, someone needs to throw him out of office on his ear.

          At 28:15 Senator Inhofe says the "environmental left" wants to shut down the nuclear industry. Just curious, it seems that he puts forward the notion that the environmentalists are the enemy of nuclear power industry. Gee, I thought the nuclear industry promoted themselves as environmentalists, all concerned about greenhouse gases, etc.

          29:35 Just puke and get it over with. Senator Barasso and his stockpile of state uranium deposits. Safely buried where it won't hurt anyone, lets dig it all up and make it lethal and spend eternity trying to safely store it.


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  • Ontological Ontological

    That industrial dementia has affected Vermont now for generations why I left. Paper mill mercury has deadened the brans of too many up there, including some 'experts' that have NO clue about how long this will be other than LAME comparisons to the Chernobyl lie. This shill is paid just like the other shills, and the name has no bearing on ANY truths! Let's take a big long 'educated' guess and blat to the public this great new finding. Bullshit is all that has blown in this wind Arnie…


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  • Argo Argo

    Great Documentary..please spread fare and wide…(if not already)

    http://nuclearexodus.com/nuclear-exodus-full-doc/


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  • Ron

    "Steve Austin, Host: Don’t eat the fish oil caplets that come from the Pacific."

    Caplets? Seems the fish industry is getting mighty upset that people are not buying as much fish as the industry would like. But not just anyone, they are focusing on pregnant/nursing women and children. What a bunch of swell guys! They want these high-risk groups to forget all the warnings they've heard in the past about mercury (no mention of radiation of course) and eat, Eat, EAT! And when big business screams government agencies jump. At least those in the U'S.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/fda-epa-pregnant-women-fish-107685.html?hp=r6

    Disgusting.


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  • Ron, It proves that awareness and self education is working….these big companies are actually starting to worry about next quarter's profits I think.

    Word gets around… :)


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "They have contaminated the entire groundwater underneath the site and eventually, all of that water will move into the Pacific.”

    How long before the contamination began contaminating the ground water?

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=groundwater&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=E1AE54931EF71E56F308B0DCD6CFA32136FDB38A&selectedIndex=3

    Let's try when the contaminated hit the open air.
    How long ..before the materials from the explosion Unit one did the contaminated start contaminating the ocean and surrounding land?
    Hoe long before the melted fuel in 2…made it's way down… whole and hot ..met the disturbed aquifer under the 'fill' the plant is built upon.

    Buesseler is the first to tell you that most of 3 went into the sea.
    THE SEA IS PART OF THE GROUNDWATER SYSTEM.
    The rest joining the other corium..MOX.

    Four burned… and is burning below the reactor..as they all are..no wonder they don't want the racks to fall?

    It's going to reach the groundwater????

    Four.. rolled out


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Four rolled out…I saw it myself.
    Like golden honey..
    Around the first times ..they put some workers up there.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This is Fukushima Diary front page today.
    The Happy Song ..below the real truth ..children becoming ill.

    http://fukushima-diary.com/

    It's more than just a headache.
    Humans are mentally ill.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This..this.
    Not only do we have to deal with the physical realities ..we have to deal with the insanity ..both inherent and induced.


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    • GQR2

      very true Heart and its a serious public health issue in itself.
      ,requiring some intensive coping. More than a shrug, and a glib "oh the world is going nutz or people are nutz etc" but seriously huge amounts of people grossly impaired in their logic and thought processes. Blunted affects, and what happens to the population when 75% are taking heavy pharmaceuticals that take the "edge" of emotions? Vocabulary,and appearance often within normal ranges but they live within delusional systems that so strong and reinforced with the media. What happens when the people are agitated due to media induced fear,desensitized to horrendous levels of violence and then stressed in their daily lives.

      We the people have a epidemic of people of all ages with gross mental impairment who drive,pay their bills and walk around in a fugue state. Trying to educate these folks to the dangers of radiation is a lost cause. seriously it is. Lost cause. Industrial dementia(s)


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Trying to educate these folks to the dangers of radiation is a lost cause."

    I'm not trying to educate people about the dangers of radiation.
    I'm trying to tell my opinion has to the danger the life forms of this planet are in due to radiation contamination on-going.

    Educating them may be a lost cause.
    Holding a correct scientific opinion ..is the most important thing I can do.
    Reality is not to be revised ..unless we are willing to return to the Dark Ages.


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  • Thanks to "nuclear pollution" and "unincredulous" for noting and summarizing the “Fukushima Task Force” hearings on C-Span.


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  • We Not They Finally

    Perhaps life may return as we know of it in millions of yrs…other wise the mass death of our significants species is almost for certain short of going faster than the speed of light and creating an answer with a critical timeline shift.Yes the only solution i see is science fiction…Other wise: the end of the precious food chain.
    The mutation of all DNA and the transformation from human to robot.Can you imagine Chaney and the Bush family transforming themselves to robots to survive???


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