FORUM: Archived Fukushima Webcam Discussion Thread (June 26 – Dec. 14, 2011)

Published: June 26th, 2011 at 12:35 pm ET
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Published: June 26th, 2011 at 12:35 pm ET
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2,598 comments to FORUM: Archived Fukushima Webcam Discussion Thread (June 26 – Dec. 14, 2011)

  • close view of the reactors and workers i haven’t seen before

    6/17/2011 Inside Fukushima Daiichi w the IAEA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QguilF9sokQ&feature=channel_video_title

    November 11, 2011: Report from Fukushima Daiichi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq_5KI787pI&feature=channel_video_title

  • nuckelchen nuckelchen

    caramba muchachos:
    http://quasimoto.exblog.jp/17028723
    http://quasimoto.exblog.jp/16979651

    http://hatajinan.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-342.html
    http://hatajinan.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-343.html
    http://hatajinan.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-344.html

    i’m happy to found them and that they are from japan.
    that brings me back on it what it is, back to the part that i wanne to play from the beginning of all. just to be a supporter for the frontliner.
    great to see them back alive on web.
    don’t know if it was the tepco internet blockade and clearing that had keept the japanesse net so quite in the lasdt months.

    good to know that our virtuel unity is still working.

  • pure water

    Now i see definitely 2 “green” spots near R3.(TBS).

  • pure water

    And then the camera went down

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    …We have the giant light…we have the colored blobs…I see flickering of other lights around them now..
    ..the beacons are red…at the moment ..i believe we have real color..including the blue anomoly on the left side of reactor 1.

  • Bobby1

    jec
    December 3, 2011 at 6:35 pm · Reply
    2011 12 04 at 8:20 AM TEPCO webcam. Green in R1/2/3/4, red “beam”–or whatever. Green up in the stacks. Blue in R1 and over by the Common Fuel Pools. Pretty messy video with pink steam off of R1. Now –it could be filters..but frankly, just think its filters not working well and we have ionized particles from radiation events. Note: Could be criticality — just ramping up–spewing out products, ramping down, and then repeating the cycle. Just a mess.

    —————–

    The maximum radiation dose, noticeable rise in many parts of the Tohoku, Kanto prefectures each

     Northeast, the maximum radiation dose was observed at 9 Monday morning from 9:00 am to each of 08 prefectures in the Kanto region, compared to 7 to 8, conspicuous rise.

    http://enenews.com/forum-discussion-thread-november-28-december-4-2011/comment-page-4#comment-166134

    ——————-
    Monday was December 5. Give the radiation a day to get around to Tohoku and Kanto.

    Conspicuous jump in radiation readings at the same time the rainbow colors appeared.

  • nuckelchen nuckelchen

    claps open at reactor 1 :

    new optics in frontt of the camera, NON LENSE FLARE :

    close-up green light:

    close-up reactor nr 2 :

    and an escaping light :

  • bfly

    nuckelchen, that close up on 3 is revealing. looks like a flame shooting out the side of the reactor.

  • anybody lookin’ at the Tomioka cam right now? it’s pretty bizarro. out-of-focus, pitch-black except for two blurry lights, one greenish, the other blinking + red. no view of the street, at all.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Yeah,

      That happened right after I posted this above last night.

      I was watching this all day yesterday and it was fine and within a few minutes of posting this rant above, it went all blurry and has stayed that way since. Soon, it will be daylight and we shall see if they leave it unfocused to hide the amounts of govt/military traffic going where?

      What is of concern now is, who is Nuclecnhen and how is it he is able to get these cameras to go close up. Is this a insider playing games with us? So far, we have not got a straight answer from this person who is where?

      Someone is spying on the enenews here and almost real time reacting to some of the info that is posted here.
      I hope I am wrong, but if nucchen wants to give us some clear explanations instead of the babble that would be good. He obviously understands english enough to be quirky with it.

      No offense to anyone, we are just looking for truth. Clear, plain, and simple! What is it and why did this camera go blurry last night when we drew attention to it?

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        Hi James, Nuckelchen is completely harmless, in my opinion. I think he’s a caretaker with too much time…..

      • pure water

        Dear James,
        They read enenews! And adjust their information output. There is no other place with so much information on the topic. I would not suspect anyone of us here.

        • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

          I agree. And even so what anyone says, reports are released on observations and despite cameras. It has happened to me before, them changing after comment. You’ve even seen evidence of shills being sent here. James, they know you are smarter than they are. Pointing out distractions is info, which is good, but can still be distractions, so don’t shoot the messenger as the other evidence shows he’s ok. It’s the cameras and tepco that have the problem in my opinion. Posting what you think is cryptic talk to hopefully send over words of truth is really no different than posting songs that say the same. I appreciate you and him. I’ve needed your words some days just as much as his. I’ve shared both of your songs. Thanks to everyone here, really. We learn from info, whether true or not is what we look for and obviously, we and you are good at it. 🙂

      • jec jec

        Nuckelchen is a super computer type–who can enlarge and pixelate, and render or software compare the video footage. Not new and unknown technology. I appreciate the long hours, and the efforts he has made to capture footage..no one else has done what he has done..or she..So kudos! And you are from where James2?

        • James2

          He’s not James2 – that’s me.

        • NoNukes NoNukes

          Can’t see how Nuckelchen is helping TEPCO’s case since his videos make the f’d up nature of the situation more visible. TEPCO can access Enenews like the rest of the world. Arnie Gundersen said that he is here multiple times a day, and I’m sure TEPCO is too, along with the American acronyms. Nuckelchen and everyone else who has been committed to watching these crappy films are responsible for giving us all the best picture we have of the situation. They are heroic, even if they don’t answer your questions the way that you want them to.

      • i think the Nuck is sincere and working hard for “our team”, really i do.

        i understand your questions, James; the coincidences and timing of camera…er, malfunctions are frustrating as hell, but honestly, i’m inclined to believe these manipulations are, to use chemfood’s phrase, tepco.nuke.gov-related. Don’t think Nuck is a friend of theirs.

        oh, no- have i made myself suspect!?! 😉

        it’s hard to believe anything, or even to believe in anything these days.

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Hi dear enenewsers, as we all complain about the poor quality of the Tepcocam, look here:
    http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-111211/daiichi-111211.htm

    At one of the last pictures G. Hosono holds a little speech in front of the IAEA and the Japanese flag. What’s in the background? A MASSIVE screen with the sharpest and most detailed Tepcocam life feed one could possibly wish for.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      …and from another (better) angle as well.

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Hello all and hey B&B,

        Yes, reckon the frustration of no real good pictures and or video is getting to me. After last nights shutting down of the road cam, that was enough to say, why bother with these gamsters. As I said, it’s offensive to anyone that is only seeking the truth.

        I think it is safe to say that we here at enenews that are many in number only want the truth. As I said before, it is just ridiculous and stupidly childish to keep giving us these videos that are obviously being tampered with and turned into trick photography, or is being portrayed as truth. It only makes the Japanese people look stupid and unintelligently inefficient especially in the face of this crystal clear picture of the crystal clear TV screen in the background as you have so excellently pointed out here B&B. You can just see these tricksters adjusting the hues to make the camera look silly and as mis-informing as their college degrees are, and laughing it up in this center. If this is the picture they want to show the world, then so mote it be. Personally, I’m getting pretty dang tired of ALL THE HORSE-EXCREMENT!~

        • pure water

          This was the proper massage and I hope they get it! I do not see the tepco`s HORSE-EXCREMENT just now.

    • nuckelchen nuckelchen

      eh,
      that was my baby 🙂

  • jec jec

    TEPCO webcam is down. TBS/JNN is up. Does anyone have video for TEPCO or are all the views offline? Night still holds at TBS/JNN location.

  • tamioka is up again. got no tepco.

  • http://www.justin.tv/mrsmith1990

    this was working for a minute, but it seems to be stuck: “2011-11-11 15:06:55”

    i guess it’s live?

  • oh, dur…that was last month. sigh. sorry.

  • nuckelchen nuckelchen

    and for all who had missed my “hello thats me” video,
    here i am again:

    and yape, i’m a little maniac.
    but with the video stuff it had growed up like it is now.
    about 20 months ago i had asked a friend of mine who is a prof graphic-head whitch software i should take to make a video from my own skywatching records.
    ya,
    and then it went up faster and faster, i made more and more.
    like now,
    my new channel has started up juno 2011 and until now i’ve got about 1.200 videos uploaded THAT i had made before by myself (99% are selfmade,okok).
    and the situation had shows to me like that there is no other here at www around who would do the job.
    and i mean, its allways a positive feedback here that you all had showed to me.

    that had pushed me up too,
    mybee,
    just a bit.

    so come everybody down please and shows me how do you looking into ur computa screen…

    great,
    that must i post in my blog,
    that you in fear about that i would becomes my pay-check from tepco.
    tz tepco…
    SIEMENS!
    hallo, that was just a j o k e, o k ?

  • yep- he’s ok. he’s good. i like him.

  • Now we have http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/10/us-nuclear-kyushu-genkai-idUSTRE7B906720111210 Radioactive water leaks at Japan’s Kyushu nuclear plant

    Enjoy! 🙁

  • jec jec

    2011 Dec 10 20:50 The usual for TEPCO webcam. “the nights of Fukushima” bright lights, colors of blue, green, yellow around Reactor 3 and 4, reactor 1 with a blue “glow” area in the tent, large plume rising up over the “work light” area, third crane has blinking red lights..likely to help redirect eyes from the problem areas. On TBS/JNN cam..very very out of focus, again, as usual.

    The same and continuous “fog” or steam seen during the daylight at TEPCO webcam. A “pink haze” due to color shifts by software rises from over all the reactors, as well as the “floating crane” at Reactor 1 -due to bad cut and paste coverup job, and NEW– with a large plume of green and white substances streaming up from over Reactor 3 and 4. Likely ionized gsses..from the “shutdown” reactors who continue to make TEPCO look bad because of hydrodgen gas production, heat and steam from the corium cores, and radiativity increased spread over Japan. The new NORMAL for Japan…

  • nuckelchen nuckelchen

    tepco is still tear down the crackles parts from/+ around reactor 4= spent fuel included!!!
    the night spot on the tepcostream comes exactly from where the fuel stands [rest of them].
    that will be a big light-show at nights when they pulled with robots out the glowing fuels, droppels of melting blobbering splashing everywhere.big laser blue shine with dark orange to red [the parts with high temps about 1500°-2500°]
    90/10 that tepco had overloaded that part of fuels in verry high rates, triple of max-load (“what the hell should all the water here take the place that we could use for our fuelloads?”)
    if we would see them uploading on trucks, we would count them , thats why we at nighttime today *doof in die röhre gucken*.
    http://www.scoop.it/t/fukushima-informations/p/797943762/eng-trad-robotique-les-robots-de-demolition-husqvarna-pour-aider-a-nettoyer-fukushima
    http://fukushima.over-blog.fr/article-voir-fukushima-27-91916281.html

    heres a little surprise from dr nuckymoto:

  • oscar419

    It almost looks (when zoomed it) like they are using that light to hide something as I can see pretty color flashes just off to the left of it. I could be seeing things or it could be a lens anomaly. I will try to get picture…

  • nuckelchen nuckelchen

    and uh, and here is some propaganda.
    to show “what is our army here doing and it is almost harmless”
    (thats why we came here with big tanks and other heavy stuff)
    (um die blumen zu giessen und die strasse zu kehren..?!) 🙂

    fact is:
    when the army takes a bigger part in such grande disaster like here, it will be happens only for cover stricly up, to block the crowd of a country or the rest of the world away from the place where they do their job

    when army comes it must be done a lot of dirty works wide outside of any national or international law.
    army is law.
    but army is shit-make love not war!

    da vid,

    • these are the liquidators
      who wear the white suits
      who come in the trucks and buses
      who bring the shovels and bags
      to take away the rubble
      to burn it up in Tokyo
      and happily ever after

  • mungo mungo

    i see the glowing blob is still on the north wall of reactor 1…..

    • bluerthanblu bluerthanblu

      Could this be the er um, ‘gas control’ solution for reactor? It should be called a ‘gas release’ rather than gas control. Yep, it’s workin’ now, steaming into the sky. R2’s ‘gas control’ is allegedly working now too. Nothing more to see, move along. NRC’s Jazcko (sp) will be there soon to call partial gas control and temperature of lava below buildings a ‘cold shutdown.’ Ya, right!

  • http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2011/12/west-coast-usa-be-prepared-something.html

    potrblog say: on Dec. 7, Tepco engaged in a “Nighttime Emergency Security Measures Training”…

    he also say: “must have only been a nighttime emergency training mist release”

    he has a link to the Tepco “handout” PDF, released on 12/8/11.

    @mungo: yeah…*shiver*.

  • yeah, wow respect! wowow…ow.

    :/

  • http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111210a9.html

    “FUKUSHIMA — Residents in three municipalities near the Fukushima No. 1 power station were exposed to as much as 37 millisieverts of radiation during the first four months of the nuclear crisis, prefectural officials said Friday.”

    maybe this isn’t where i should post this, or it’s been posted already, but i had to get it out of my hands right this minute.

  • link came from

    theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com

  • entropy

    Hi all. I haven’t chimed in for a while. Thanx to everyone’s knowledge. A great place to find out what’s happening and how people are feeling.
    In regards to tepco and the tnn cam, if I was still in continuity for films, I’d say thos two views don’t match. Is it just me?

  • entropy

    That crane to the side of reactor one is different in each view. Reactor 4 has different angle slightly in each webcam. (?)
    The clouds move perfectly right to left at tepco.
    No perspective. There was one point a cloud was over the crane line for a frame then corrected. Those are composite like mistakes. Maybe just the way the camera reacts.

  • entropy

    Could just be me. 🙂
    Xdrfox, Thanx for the stream.

  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

    I’m not feeling well and overtired but had to jump in here one last time before I crash for a few hours. I hopped on to the TBS cam one last time tonight and I don’t know if I’m seeing things or what-but the damned tower with the stack in front of R1 seems to be warped and swaying from left to right!! If the corium from R1 has deteriorated the foundation & pipewrok under that tower and/or an earthquake(or 2) undermined its stability there may be something set to go down with unknown consequences!!?? If I’m quoting symptoms of a low-grade fever & sleep deprivation I apologize but if I’m not-then someone else more alert than I am tonight may notice it too!!?? ~Again, PEACE~ and Have a nice weekend everyone!!

  • JB-
    I see it!

    A couple of days ago I started noticing (what I assumed to be) signs of ground instability but thought perhaps I was just halucinating. Thought maybe I was staring at the screen to hard and just seeing things.

    Tonight I’m noticing it once again after only watching the feed for a minute or two. Also I’m noticing it to be more prononunced in certain areas.

    It definitely concerns me as well! If the ground has deteriorated that much then it’s only a matter of time…

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    You might already be aware of this. I was not.
    They have zoomed the webcam closer to the reactors 1 and 2
    so you can’t see 3 and beyond.
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html

  • jec jec

    Clouds of death released. 2011 12-11 22:37 TEPCO webcam. Look at all the stacks and the area, plume, over the “work lights”–just streaming out of the stacks..and heading out towards Russia and the USA. Lots of little spark lights in the “steam”–and around the grounds. The red blinking lights, might be set up to deflect watchers from seeing the smoke going up..and the radioactive flashes of ionized gases. The BLUE on Reactor 1–is not good..ionized gases are blue…otherwise its the “usual” colors of Fukushima busy poluting the wars. “Share the joy”…

  • jec jec

    TBS/JNN Not reliable, no timestamp. Probably RE-RUNS!

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      It looks authentic to me. AT 13:47 right now. The colors are different because the TEPCO live cam has different color filters on it.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        You can see the pulsing green area near the ground between #3 and #4. Not as bright as previous nights, but it is there. This cam, TBS/JNN, is the only only that has shown the green clearly. We would have never seen it without this cam.

        • bfly

          Anne, I think you are right about the green glow being of uranium based. I saw the crane lift something out of number 3 and place it were the green is emitting from.Perhaps they are experimenting with coolants?Its all rather frightening.

  • Wotcha Wotcha

    Hello all
    I’ve been following this discussion and post my grateful thanks to the contributors. One thing I’ve missed somewhere along the line is the info (video or pictures??)of the new storage area (lagoon) which has been mentioned. Can anyone point me at this pls. Many thanks.

  • Is it sleep deprivation or is TEPCOCAM extra-sparkly tonight?

  • jec jec

    2100 12 12 05:49 Dawn..and sparkly for TEPCO webcam..

  • jec jec

    2011 12 12 10:00 TEPCO Filter was used just after this time to hide the GREEN smoke/gas/steam or whatever it is going up the Reactor 1 stack. And others. Any time you see the filters on..funny colors in the sky, buildings etc..something is getting covered up and hidden..so look closely. And document. Also the enewes timestampfor you blackmoon..and others says JUNE 27th..check it out..

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    For the various colors we are seeing on the TEPCO webcam by Reactor #3, which used MOX fuel see the different colors of “Various oxidation states of plutonium in solution” in:

    Plutonium
    Compounds and chemistry
    See also: Plutonium compounds

    “Various oxidation states of plutonium in solution

    “At room temperature, pure plutonium is silvery in color but gains a tarnish when oxidized.[29] The element displays four common ionic oxidation states in aqueous solution and one rare one:[14]
    • Pu(III), as Pu3+ (blue lavender)
    • Pu(IV), as Pu4+ (yellow brown)
    • Pu(V), as PuO2+ (pink?)[note 1]
    • Pu(VI), as PuO22+ (pink orange)
    • Pu(VII), as PuO53− (green)–the heptavalent ion is rare
    “The color shown by plutonium solutions depends on both the oxidation state and the nature of the acid anion.[30] It is the acid anion that influences the degree of complexing—how atoms connect to a central atom—of the plutonium species.
    Metallic plutonium is produced by reacting plutonium tetrafluoride with barium, calcium or lithium at 1200 °C.[31] It is attacked by acids, oxygen, and steam but not by alkalis and dissolves easily in concentrated hydrochloric, hydroiodic and perchloric acids.[32] Molten metal must be kept in a vacuum or an inert atmosphere to avoid reaction with air.[15] At 135 °C the metal will ignite in air and will explode if placed in carbon tetrachloride.[33]

    “Plutonium pyrophoricity can cause it to look like a glowing ember under certain conditions.

    “Twenty micrograms of pure plutonium hydroxide.[34]
    Plutonium is a reactive metal. In moist air or moist argon, the metal oxidizes rapidly, producing a mixture of oxides and hydrides.[5] If the metal is exposed long enough to a limited amount of water vapor, a powdery surface coating of PuO2 is formed.[5] Also formed is plutonium hydride but an excess of water vapor forms only PuO2.[32]

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      [cont.]
      but an excess of water vapor forms only PuO2.[32]
      “With this coating, the metal is pyrophoric, meaning it can ignite spontaneously, so plutonium metal is usually handled in an inert, dry atmosphere of nitrogen or argon. Oxygen retards the effects of moisture and acts as a passivating agent.[5]
      “Plutonium shows enormous, and reversible, reaction rates with pure hydrogen, forming plutonium hydride.[11] It also reacts readily with oxygen, forming PuO and PuO2 as well as intermediate oxides; plutonium oxide fills 40% more volume than plutonium metal. It reacts with the halogens, giving rise to compounds such as PuX3 where X can be F, Cl, Br or I; PuF4 is also seen. The following oxyhalides are observed: PuOCl, PuOBr and PuOI. It will react with carbon to form PuC, nitrogen to form PuN and silicon to form PuSi2.[14][33]

      “Crucibles used to contain plutonium need to be able to withstand its strongly reducing properties. Refractory metals such as tantalum and tungsten along with the more stable oxides, borides, carbides, nitrides and silicides can tolerate this. Melting in an electric arc furnace can be used to produce small ingots of the metal without the need for a crucible.[15]

      “Cerium is used as a chemical simulant of plutonium for development of containment, extraction, and other technologies.[35]…”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      If you go to this article and look at the colors of the oxidation states of plutonium, you will see the very colors we have been seeing. I didn’t know how to reproduce this picture on this website.

  • xstatic

    Still smoking now,also see flashes every couple minutes.
    Just got done watching a nuckelchenblogde video on youtube and had to see if it was happening live.

  • pure water

    There is a burning spot down on the right of the second tower -just below the biggest blue reflection.

  • nuckelchen nuckelchen

    help,
    thats to much for little nuckelchen.
    xxl mutated chicken found on tomioka webcam, 2.5 km to ground 123456 :

    holy jim henson,
    i had seen it in a private video before that they are running to fields close to but to see them here in case with a “normal” background isn’t anything i wanne see.
    the cows and dogs and cats are sick enough and its hard to see them but that monster size chicken makes me *#*

  • pure water

    I have no idea what they have seen, I started watching later. But there was a lot of activity around R4 1 or 2 hours before sunset – white objects moving in front of the reactor and later the big red pump was there too.

  • sworldpeas

    Check out the drainage creek that was concreted and goes under unit 2 and 3… it’s on the lower left side…

    http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp/pict8.jpg

  • lam335 lam335

    I found this page that says a tungsten welding torch can give off a green flame if the tungsten is contaminated with certain other materials (I know nothing about welding myself; I just googled it). It’s pure speculation, but perhaps they were dismantling something using such a torch?:

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Welding-3487/Flame-color-Tig-Welding.htm

    “Question
    Hello, I’m using a Thermal Arc 200gts (about 7 yrs old), to put together a
    stainless steel table, and lately the flame seems to be a greenish color. It
    produces a bit more heat than normal and seems to be less focused. … do you have any suggestions?

    Answer
    The green arc is caused by a contaminated tungsten.
    This means you touched the tungsten to either the base metal or the filler rod.
    Try a clean tungsten with a fresh point.
    The point should be ground to about the same taper as a newly sharpened pencil.

    Check out this site for more info about tungsten.

    < http://www.pro-fusiononline.com/tungsten/>

    When the tungsten gets contaminated it will erode rapidly, which reduces your arc heat. “

  • This show seems set for Fukushima shutting down Japan, not the other way around.

    The collective myopia over the steady flow of news is an excellent reason to ban nuclear power completely. It may be safe with appropriate protocols, but almost hundred incidents later, it is high time the human cost and damages were included in the cost of using nuclear power, and let us see if it is all that cheap.