Fukushima Worker: Nothing left we can do — Zero plan/idea how to manage leaking reactors — Tepco begins reducing # of workers

Published: November 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 am ET


Fukushima worker confesses “There is nothing left that we could do”, Fukushima Diary by Mochizuki, November 23, 2011 (Emphasis Added):

This Fukushima worker (Twitter account Happy20790) tweets useful information daily. […]

In short, he says Tepco started reducing the number of workers because they can not do anything for the reactors anymore. […]

He explains, the next thing to do is to check the state of container vessels pressure vessels, define the actual point of the leakage of contaminated water, and action to stop the leakage, but there is zero plan / idea how to manage it.

The interiors of the buildings are extremely radioactive and nobody can officially go into reactor 3 […] The only thing they can do is to analyze the gas from inside of the container vessels.

Thus nothing can be done by human anymore. They can only clean debris, take away broken operation floor, maintain the water purifying system, setting new tanks etc..

Published: November 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 am ET


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73 comments to Fukushima Worker: Nothing left we can do — Zero plan/idea how to manage leaking reactors — Tepco begins reducing # of workers

  • pure water

    Ask those who know! I do not, but instead of this crazy decontamination, they can ask for ideas and help from those who have the knowledge and are able to generate ideas. Ask the computer gamers, instead of lingering!

  • jackassrig

    So this is their idea of a cold shutdown. Are these bastards going to get their comeuppance?

  • Bobby1

    Then it’s an ELE. It’s just a matter of time. Probably sooner rather than later.

    Nice knowing you all. See you on the other side.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Good morning B1,

      Not the we support anything satanic, but this is some background perusal music for ya brother. It is only a song that goes with your post.

  • lam335 lam335

    No word about trying to stop any of the melted cores that may already been burning their way down toward the groundwater.

    No word about removing the spent fuel rods from SFP #4, or even continuing to better reinforce that structure.

    • ion jean ion jean

      How about tunneling under the thing…the Japanese are so well educated; they should have been demanding this solution from day 1.

      If I can find a way I will file suit against TEPCO myself because of jetstream contamination. Yes, even on the East Coast were some incredibly high rain and drinking water 131 readings back in the day when the EPA did a Little testing.

      We should find a way to also be compensated by our own govt here in the US as well because of their useless complacency…

      Just heard on pub radio how US military strategy now will focus On Asia and the Pacific…huh? In that boiling isotope stew? Is that where we send our young boys and girls next?

      From depleted uranium infused desert sands to fresh fission decaying daughter products recombining with salt water to form bewly discovered radioactive chlorine condensing in the ocean mists to rain down in monsoons? ReaLly?

      Out of the frying pan, into the fire…

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    There is nothing they can do? Well they could start by telling the public the truth. I wish they would give status reports on reactors 5&6 but I guess they can’t even take measurements in the 4 confirmed problem zones. What a mess! Now they want to reduce workers? Gorbachev would have mobilized an entire nation by now what the hell are the clowns at TEPCO smoking? The messiest situations have yet to happen and they want to reduce staff. I have seen stupid before, but not at this extreme. Cold shutdown my ass! Why don’t they just say “we failed and we’re sorry for ruining 10% of the country.”

    • mikey

      Grampy- Cuz if they said oops sorry about killing off 10% of Japan they would still be a lying like a bug in a rug….Check out sum of the cesium plumes that cover the MAJORITY of Japan. 10% WOULD BE A SWEET LOSS.

  • TheWorldIsBlind

    so is that it? thats the official word? Tepco is giving up?? Are they clearing out for when the China Syndrome begins the explosion process? I believe what we are going to see is soon – reactors will start having massive amounts of steam start boiling out of the reactors and then *BOOM* the whole thing pops starting off a tremendous chain reaction. I can only see it going this way. Anyone agree???

    • Bobby1

      Daiichi does up in a nuclear/volcanic reaction. Everyone at Daiini drops dead, all those reactors go into meltdown, since there are no workers left to keep the fuel cool. The plume spreads to the next NPP, which goes into meltdown. Then the electrical grid in Japan goes down, and all reactors in Japan melt down and go into China syndromes. Then the plume crosses the Pacific and the same thing starts happening in the US. On and on across the planet.

      • nohobear nohobear

        Thanks for saying out loud the darkest fears I have about this nuclear clusterfuck. It’s only a matter of time before they lose control of Daiichi 5 and 6. Then don’t forget, the Daiini complex is only a few miles down the road from Daiichi. Japan could very well poison the world. We wouldn’t need reactors in the US or Europe to be added in the mix. There’s enough nuclear tonnage just in Japan to create an ELE. I hope it doesn’t come to pass, for the younger generations sake.

        It would be very interesting to see what the world will be like in 100 years. I suspect it won’t be pretty.

        • ocifferdave

          The bad things we have been seeing in the world are crecendoing. It won’t be long now. The wave is approaching the beach and our ride is nearly over. How you surf your way in is up to you.

        • john lh john lh

          Dear Pure Water/nohobear

          The only solution from the very begging of 3.11, IS RUN, RUN,RUN…

          TEPCO ,actually it is Japanese Gov. know they do not have enough life to scarify to Build an Nuke Tomb may be 100 times big than Chernobyl.

          Nothing of those reactors and spend fuel pools is every under control since 3.11, but the news and truth.

          Forg in the Japanese rice cooker start feel the water is getting little bit too hot now..

      • ocifferdave

        Bobby1, you are brilliant.

      • Yes, it’s obvious we should build more of them.

        Will be interesting to see the activity up and down the West Coast of N America when she blows.

        Even the riot police will get sick.

        I wonder if Russia-China (or, The Shanghai Cooperation Organization) has contemplated a military attack on Japan to stop it doing what it is doing to the world (China, Russia, S Korea, Japan all being immediately affected).

      • Bobby, have you ever seen part 2 of Arto Lauri “A theory of Fukushima”? He has info about the unstable MOX that is being run in reactors all over the world right now, from two decommissioned plants. They are “banging like fireworks” all over as it is, many we probably don’t even know about. Personally I think the sun is reacting with our planet in unusual ways, causing EQs and such, and who knows if its triggering some of these fuel reactions as well? The IAEA approved the use of this unstable fuel. Now when they go to open the reactors, they are 3 x as hot as they should be.
        Check it out.

    • richard mancer

      Ah no, that’s not the official word, that”s someone’s tweet.

  • dpl dpl

    Best news from TEPCO ever, now hand the problem over to someone who will take responsibility then crawl away and die.

  • jackassrig

    It’s the same old story. They cut and run then someone else has to clean up after the parade. God save us from these GD bean counters and managers.

  • pure water

    And so many of the experts in this field would have helped, so the young people with bright minds! Are people on this planet capable only for this – watching the tragedy and doing nothing meaningful?! Are we just an evolutionary dead end?! As a whole pride is a stupid thing, but in situations like this it can mobilize resourses and can do miracles. Where is this noble kind of pride?! Soewhere burried with lies and fear, may be…

  • radegan

    Nothing could’ve been done from the first moments – it was all kabuki theater. Keep everyone calm until we settle the China Syndrome question. Some scientists do not believe in giant explosions and we are waiting now to find out which scientists are right. Slow poisoning of the planet or the big blammo? The ONLY time this could’ve been stopped was before the reactor ever fired up – see Shoreham, LI.

  • dka

    dance now, pay later, human proverb.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Hey Dka,

      We might even say…work as hard as humanly possible to thwart this disaster…exhaust all human possibilities sparing no expense or resources and when all else absolutely fails…then we dance because it is better to go out dancing than it is to fall and die deep into ones owns sorrows…or those of others.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    OT Major Alert!
    11/23/2011 — ‘HAARP ring’ forecast confirmation = damaging wind / possible tornadoes in WA – OR !

    • Anthony Anthony

      We had an unusually vigorous windstorm come through Vancouver two nights ago… knocked out power for almost 12 hours right in town!

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Hi A,

        Thanks for your great reporting.

        Please, all good folks that are out west report your weather so everyone east will get an idea of what is headed your way and have some small window to prepare. Report chemtrails and precipitation and any and all anomalous weather as brother Anthony has done here.

        We need especially for more counters out there to take measurements and report them and this on the permanent citizens radiation monitoring network thread here.

        • Blondie Blondie

          I posted this link on the petition forum too. I hope it’s okay to post it here too.

          Suffolk Co. NY to hear proposal to ban chemtrails

          “If this proposal becomes law in Suffolk County, Long Island, it would be the first in the nation. It would be a starting point for others to follow,” said LISW in a press release. “Eventually, our governments would have to investigate why our trees are dying in record numbers; why our waters contain toxic levels of aluminum, barium and strontium; why 90% of us are vitamin D deficient; why our crops are failing; and where all of this crazy weather is coming from.”

          Cindy Pikoulas of LISW spoke with New York Sky Watch radio on Nov. 20, when she advised that tree samples from Suffolk show high levels of barium, strontium and aluminum. She is asking Long Islanders to have their water and trees tested for these chemicals in order to build a body of evidence that would spur investigations by health and environment authorities.

          In addition to attending the Dec. 6 hearing, Long Islanders can contact their county legislators via http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/legislators.html


          People in that area need to take samples of their trees and water and get to that hearing!

  • sworldpeas

    Write the japanese consulate and tell them you are boycotting japan.

    in California…
    To consul general: Jun Niimi
    350 South Grand Avenue, Suite 1700
    Los Angeles, CA 90071
    TEL: (213) 617-6700

    Washington Embassy…
    To: Ambassador Ichiro FUJISAKI
    2520 Massachusetts Avenue N.W.
    Washington D.C. 20008

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Posting that to HP = Great idea!!
      Quick Google http://www.usjapancouncil.org/contact_us/
      We could bombard them with emails too BOYCOTT JAPAN

      • sworldpeas

        Imagine if they got millions of BOYCOTT e-mails! I’ve been sitting here for 9 months watching the HORROR unfold with no ability to effect change. I think boycott letters and e-mails is proactive and en-mass it CAN effect change. It’s better then doing nothing and right now our only option as I see it.


  • Be Still My Beating Heart

    I might as well return to drinking milk and eating meat!
    And to think about all that money I wasted buying a home water filter system and the materials to make all those air filters!
    I could have bought new studded snow tires for the car and drove up into the Cascade Mountains to play in the Snow!
    Wheeeee… … …
    At least I haven’t finished buying all the materials for the expanded green house this spring, maybe I’ll go the black Friday sales and get a newer, bigger flat screen TV. (Sarc)

  • Bobby1

    Petition to the captain of the Titanic

    We humbly beseech you to do something about the hole in the ship that the iceberg caused. We will be in trouble soon if this continues.

    Signed, the passengers

    • pure water

      As far as I can see, we are not a voluntary passengers on the nuclear boat. They seem to be the pirates, who generate 6% of the energy here and serve the military purposes. Do we really need all these kinds of weapons and power generation?!

      • Lacsap Lacsap

        Not only militairi but also space missions. Now they are going to send a new mars rover Curiosity to mars, the thing runs on plutonium-238.

        http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/index.html (pics)

        Curiosity will be powered by radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs), as used by the successful Mars landers Viking 1 and Viking 2 in 1976.[33][34] Radioisotope power systems are generators that produce electricity from the natural decay of plutonium-238, which is a non-fissile isotope of plutonium used in power systems for NASA spacecraft. Heat given off by the natural decay of this isotope is converted into electricity, providing constant power during all seasons and through the day and night, and waste heat can be used via pipes to warm systems, freeing electrical power for the operation of the vehicle and instruments.[33][34]

        Curiosity’s power source will use the latest RTG generation built by Boeing, called the “Multi-Mission Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator” or MMRTG.[35] Based on classical RTG technology, it represents a more flexible and compact development step,[35] and is designed to produce 125 watts of electrical power from about 2000 watts of thermal power at the start of the mission.[33][34] The MMRTG produces less power over time as its plutonium fuel decays: at its minimum lifetime of 14 years, electrical power output is down to 100 watts.[36][37] The MSL will generate 2.5 kilowatt hours per day compared to the Mars Exploration Rovers which can generate about 0.6 kilowatt hours per day.[15]


        Curiosity, also known as the Mars Science Laboratory, is carrying almost 8 pounds (3.6 kilograms) of the radioactive fuel!!!


        • Stlouieishot

          what ive always wondered is why didnt they use this type of setup to produce power with nuclear materials? its seems to me you could use any radioactive material that gives off heat, including wate products. instead they made plants that react the uranium to produce way more heat than needed to produce power and create even more waste in the process.
          i know there is a radio/voltaic cell that produces electricity much in the same manner as a solar cell- it works off of radioactive decay. with long lived isotopes such units would never need refuleing and would not produce waste in the process.
          it just boggles my mind with the newer tech that is avaliable that they still decide to use the absoloute most dangerous and highest waste producing method out there.
          its almost like someone who is building a race car and they put the biggest most powerfull engine possible in it, but do not install a roll cage, 5 point safety harness, fire suppression system and remove the brakes, side and rear view mirros and make the driver wear a pair of shorts and a t shirt, with no shoes or helmet.
          these scientists with all thier degrees and education sure are dumb arent they?

          • mikey

            Saint Luis- No they are not dumb…Many scientists have protested and refused to sign off on dangerous designs- The Elites above them are not dumb either.

            The plan is called agenda 21 reduction of world population to about 500 million. This has been in the works since the end of WW2 and is the reason for all the DUMBS being build with such panic (Deep Underground Military Bases) This is the end game where the rulers pop down to their underground cities and watch us die off in color. Nice trick but DNA doesnt die it just mutates so many will survive to dig these bad boys back up and say hi!

  • Lacsap Lacsap

    The results of the investigation indicate that leakage through the seal on the dry well head MAY BE sufficient to prevent catastrophic failure of the containments for a wide range of hypothetical core melt scenarios.

    You guys go study this and tell me if you think that it is sufficient. What i see is that there is a hydrogen problem at least.


  • hbjon hbjon

    I guess the captain will continue to tell the band (media) to play something “upbeat”. But, don’t let this belittle the effort given forth. It was a titanic struggle from the beginning. The workers are great heroes and nothing can take that away from them.

    • watcher watcher

      Try “Autumn”

    • sworldpeas

      Excuse me hbjon but an “effort” is 600,000 liquidators, 2000 workers is business as usual for a 6 reactor nuclear facility that is dealing with a level 7 DISASTER. I haven’t seen any “effort” that is worthy of admiration. I’ve seen cover up after cover up. I’ve seen LIARS brag about the claims of decontamination etc etc. The best effort I’ve seen is the one to COVER THEIR WORTHLESS ASSES!!! WE MUST BOYCOTT ALL THINGS JAPANESE AND HIT THEM IN THE POCKETBOOK, it’s obviously the only way they will listen.

  • Clocka

    The perps will flee to Japanese-owned ranches in Brazil and Argentine, directly opposite from Japan.

  • hbjon hbjon

    I beg your pardon sworldpeas. I have a npp in my back yard, and if that blows do you want me to sacrifice my life with a shovel and wheelbarrel for a medal to put on my gravestone? More than a million dead from an agonizing, cancerous, debilitating death from the effects in Chernobyl. All safety measure must be used. You didn’t suggest that 600,000 people go in with shovels and buckets did you? IMHO, it was a crime against humanity to send anyone into these npp’s, and you suggest that they should send more people into them to look down the big hole where the fuel is? Figure it out man. Thousands of tons of molten fuel with an armour crust on the outside that a bunker buster can’t penetrate.

    • sworldpeas

      I see your point hbjon but imagine where we would be today if 600,000 liquidators had NOT fought the fire at Chernobyl? What if they had NOT dumped tons of sand and graphite on it? What if they simply walked away because it was too radioactive? I don’t even want to think where we will be in 5,10,15 years from now if Tepco walks away from THEIR disaster.

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Well good morning to everyone or afternoon, which ever the case may be.

    So we here, none of us, really know what exactly is happening there in japan. There is a lot of evidence that like GB says above, 5&6 are percolating also and there could even be more locations that are also percolating and have not been publicized yet. All the indicators say this will never stop. We now see more evidence of this in this tweet.

    Sooner or later this will be common knowledge. The pit of cover-up is do deep and now they are saying that nothing can be done about these reactors. Seems like so many are buying into that.

    Well, now that this is being said and whispered all over the world like it has been yelled out loudly here, what can be done still, and what are some real answers that can be explored or expounded on? We all should be researching and searching all we can as well as shaking the information cage up as much as you peacefully can now to alert others.

    Reckon what this ol mountain hick is saying is, let’s continue to see the glass as half-full, rather than half empty.

    Blessings to all as we celebrate Thanksgiving. Let us give thanks indeed for life and remember to pray for all those souls who lost their lives on that horrendous disastrous day. Pray for those who still suffer for their losses and the losses of loved ones. Be grateful if you have family to be with tomorrow and remember, some of us don’t have family to be with. Our family is more of a world-wide One. Our family is the Family of Man and our religion is Truth! Shine on all you glorious people.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Magnitude-5.9 quake hits near Japan nuclear site
    The Canadian Press By The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – 16 minutes ago


  • markww markww


    CAN WE DROP A NUKE ON THE SITE AND HOPE the instant reaction of a bomb and the detonation of the site all at one time might stop the total release don’t know SCIENTISTS NOW NEED TO GE TOGETHER WE ALSO never got any information as to the radioactive material to the sea level and distance below the reactor floors. If nothing else can be done there is no stopping the china syndromes 4 or more at one time. Mark

    • luckyjay

      Uhm… I don’t think aerosolizing four (or six) nuclear coria would be in our best interest, frankly.
      And, call me crazy, but it appears most habitual commentors here need to take a breath – or… I dunno… lithium? – before their constant Apocalypto-hysteria tarnishes this site’s efforts at reportorial integrity.

      • Mack Mack

        FYI — NASA put lithium into the ionosphere —>

        “The other will shoot out a long trail of lithium gas to track the wind movement. The instrumented rockets are 40 feet long and 17 inches in diameter, carrying a payload of 600 lbs. The lithium rockets are 14 inches in diameter and are about six feet long.”


      • Here is little bit of hope for future generations. This will happen with a radiation, too.

        Local darwinism in the Czech Republic

        Scientists have found evidence that residents of Ostrava have built up a genetic resistance to the effects of air pollution

        by Alex Ballingall

        Evolution, as it is popularly conceived, is a snail’s-pace process in which each genetic tweak can take thousands of years. But a recent study from Prague’s Institute of Experimental Medicine has put that concept to the test. Scientists there found evidence that residents of the Czech city of Ostrava have built up a genetic resistance to the damaging effects of air pollution. Ostrava is one of Europe’s smoggiest urban centres, known for posting pollution levels four times higher than EU limits.

        The study compared residents of Ostrava and Prague. Geneticist Pavel Rossner told the Telegraph that Ostrava residents had “higher expressions” of XRCC5, a gene that helps repair DNA that is damaged due to exposure to air pollution. “They are more able to repair the breaks in the DNA than people in Prague,” Rossner explained. That means, since the Industrial Revolution brought smokestacks and steel manufacturers to the area 150 years ago, people there have begun to adapt to their polluted environment. Their genes started to behave differently in a matter of decades, suggesting evolutionary developments don’t always move at a glacial pace.


        • Anthony Anthony

          I would want to believe this is possible and of course it is. Ive believed this will literally create radiation resistance more than outright death. I think the industry thinking maybe be this is a positive and allows more nuclear spillage in the future without worry to populations really.

          Like it or not the radiation resistance project is well underway. The ones who survive and reproduce will produce people who are able to exist with radiation.

        • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

          I’ve always wondered about this, because you often see healthy people living in polluted cities. I do think it’s possible.

          I guess it’s our only hope to resist the increase in crap we are taking in all the time.

      • @jay…that’s right, everybody shhhh..pretend the nuke theater isn’t on fire. Just kidding. Everyone here is dedicated and apparently more interested in positing solutions than ANY of the brainiacs in the nuke industry. You got ideas to save our arses, luckjay? Come on, we are dying to hear. Really..

        • luckyjay

          @Chemfood – Why so threatened? I made no challenge to the miserable reality we’re facing: Humanity is toast. But our end won’t happen with the bang or spectacle y’all seem to be awaiting with such adrenalized relish; it’ll be a slow, heart-breaking slog of into “raditation-induced” evolution by us and every creature we care for.
          Deal with it.
          But keep your feet on the ground and your heads in the FACTS.
          As to my “solution”? Build a giant erector set, scoop Fukushima prefecture out of Japan whole and ship it to the moon.
          Yeah, I know. Just as practical & informative as most of ENEnews comments.

      • markww markww

        If A Nuke is dropped what happens is all the nuclear materials dissolve in a instant flash.That is why I feel the scientists might have a last ditch effort.

        If the plants blow and there Hydro Volcanic explosion, your going to see TIDAL WAVES like never before possibly in the Pacific.
        MOX spread all over the world this could wipe out the planet. The plants at Fukushima sink into the ground being swallowed up. Radiation forever. Japan Gone not just in a few miles but the whole Island. Billions of people dead by Radiation Poison. The food chain goes away no crops, and it goes on and on.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Outnow just posted linking to this:
    PMID 21984980 – the conclusion of the longest running low dose exposure in history conclusive­ly implicates radiation in bone cancer in Janaese bomb survivors. Just came out in June of 2011.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    By the looks of some of the recent articles…some nuclear experts …are wondering if a large hydrogen build up is possible… recriticalities will continue..so yes…. slow death is also an option….

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      ..where did my post go?… major geological disturbances…caused by the corium… also on the table.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      REPOST: When The Fukushima Meltdown Hits Groundwater
      May 23, 2011 at 7:54 pm
      When The Fukushima Meltdown Hits Groundwater
      By Dr. Tom Burnett
      Fukushima is going to dwarf Chenobyl. The Japanese government has had a level 7 nuclear disaster going for almost a week but won’t admit it.
      The disaster is occurring the opposite way than Chernobyl, which exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactions are getting worse. I suspect three nuclear piles are in meltdown and we will probably get some of it.
      If reactor 3 is in meltdown, the concrete under the containment looks like lava. But Fukushima is not far off the water table. When that molten mass of self-sustaining nuclear material gets to the water table it won’t simply cool down. It will explode ¬ not a nuclear explosion, but probably enough to involve the rest of the reactors and fuel rods at the facility.
      Says it all – check out the date of article… seems to be playing out verbatim today.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Fukushima disaster: worse than Hiroshima

      “For the first time a tenured nuclear expert Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University concedes that the melted cores of one or more reactors may have melted through the supposedly failure proof containment vessel floor, sinking deeper into the subsoil and given the nature of the radioactive material concerned, into a position where it can spread a very long distance directly through the subsoil water table….”

  • markww markww

    ******* I think I may have a solution to slow down reaction Hydro Volcanic explosions at Fukushima AND SOME OF THE RADIOACTIVITY





  • If fuku blows bigtime it actually could be a good thing. Blow the whole mess into the ocean and air all at once, instead of spewing rads for decades/centuries. We shelter indoors for 14-30 days, come out and the process of decontamination can begin. Right now you can’t decontaminate anything except yourself and your house, because the shit keeps on coming. The stuff blown into the ocean would be somewhat protected under water. The ocean would be toast, but I think it probably already is.

    The EQ there today is concerning tho, if sfp #4 falls over, Tokyo will have to be evacuated immediately. Someone (Tacomagroove?) did an extensive math problem on here once showing how many weeks/months/years it would take to fly everyone out.

    Here’s a vid about sfp #4 tipping over, and what we would need to do in the US:

    [link to http://www.youtube.com]

    An explosion or hydrovolcanic type deal would mean the same, just worse.

    ichicax4 on you tube
    RadChick Radiation Research & Mitigation on facebook