German TV: Armageddon if Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 collapses and melts down — Could change the world — Most likely consequence is that reactors 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 get out of control — Interview with nuclear engineer (VIDEO)

Published: March 26th, 2012 at 5:11 am ET
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Title: The Fukushima Lie
Source: ZDF (German TV)
Author: Documentary by Johannes Hano, camera Heiko Käberich, Toby Marshall
Upload Date: Mar 22, 2012
Uploaded by: StevenMorello
Translation by: Steven Muschalik
Subtitles by: Jerry Sa
Original Link: http://zoom.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/9/0,1872,8235273_idDispatch:11369630,00.html

At 1:09 in

Narrator: Yukitero Naka and his people know what is really happening in the nuclear ruins. [...] Even if they were able to create enough qualified engineers and staff for the next 40 years, one problem remains that could change Japan and the world.

Question: Is the nuclear power plant safe now?

Yukitero Naka, Nuclear Engineer: Well, that’s what TEPCO and the government says, but the people in there don’t believe it.

There is still a great danger.

My personal concern is the fourth reactor block.

The building has been strongly damaged by the earthquake.

There are approximately 1300 spent fuel rods in the cooling pond on level four. In the level above newer rods are stored as well as a lot of heavy machinery. This is all very, very heavy.

If another earthquake occurs then the building could collapse and another chain reaction could very likely occur.

Narrator: So, a meltdown under the free sky which would be the end of Japan as we know it today.

The radiation would be direct deadly.

The work on the ground would be totally impossible.

The most likely consequence is that reactors 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 get out of control.

Armageddon!

Read the report here

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73 comments to German TV: Armageddon if Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 collapses and melts down — Could change the world — Most likely consequence is that reactors 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 get out of control — Interview with nuclear engineer (VIDEO)

  • dear jones

    If No. 4 collapses — End of Japan
    The worst case always happen


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  • Steven Steven

    "There are approximately 1300 spent fuel rods in the cooling pond on level four. In the level above newer rods are stored as well as a lot of heavy machinery. This is all very, very heavy."

    Anyone know what is meant by the second sentence above? I was under the impression that the 'newer' rods (presumably the 'hot load' from the RPV) were in the SPF along with the old rods.


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    • Steven Steven

      ooops I meant SFP


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    • I believe this IS a translation issue. The "original" german transcript is actually translated from english (most of the interviews in the film were done in english between the german interviewer and japanese or american subjects). The german voices in many of the interviews are dubbed. So we have a german and a japanese man, each speaking in a non-native language. Then they are dubbed into german, and the german transcript shows only the translated and dubbed content, not the original, then the subtitles are translated BACK from the dubbing (I listened carefully to the english you can hear under the dubbing and there are differences between the spoken english and the english subtitles. BOTTOM LINE: the rods ARE all in the SFP at reactor 4, and any odd statements like that are almost certainly the product of the multiple translations combined with the effect of working in multiple languages that are not the native languages of those making the film. I thought the film was excellent and presented many of the concerns raised here very well. Hope that helped clear it up.


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      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        Thanks Andrew, it did indeed…
        Btw, Johannes Hano is a really famous journalist here – he's in charge of the ZDF's TV office in Beijing. He received an award for his reports from Japan after 3/11. He got a pretty good dose in Tokyo.


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    • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

      Steven, I once read a report that the new MOX fuel for reactor 4 had been stored in a separate place because the SFP4 was nearly full. Still looking for an original source for this report, but believe it was an interview with a worker on unit 4. This would explain the concern.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Hi Philipupnorth,

        Had read myself there was new MOX there (SPF #4). The report I read (here?) stated it was slated to go into Reactor #3, to replace the MOX which had been loaded into it (supposedly for the first time) in October, 2010.

        Recently read reactors go through a fuel cycle about once every 90 days. So that timing would be about right for refueling #3 with fresh MOX.

        Have never been able to figure out exact locations of the reactors because I've never seen a schematic of how they sit in 'As Built" plans. But it would make sense to store the new fuel rods in the #4 SPF if it sat adjacent to Reactor #3. If there was some reason not to put the rods in the #3 SPF, then the #4 SPF would be the next logical choice (assuming close proximity of the two reactors).


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Actually one would think they'd be ready for the third load of MOX in #3 by 3/11. Am not sure if that's what actually happened. Have never read any discussion on the contents of the #3 SPF (whether or not there was spent MOX fuel there or not). And the report I read on the fuel cycle = 90 days might have been in relation to "conventional fuel" and not MOX.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Unless they were not telling us something (which has happened a lot) Reactor #3 was the only one there using MOX.


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  • many moons

    Why don't they start trying to remove the very heavy equiptment, (if it isn't useful and start reconsrution on the building? If Japan's future and perhaps the earth's future hinges on this one event…

    this building has to remain standing for at least 10 years or untill the technology to remove the fuel rods is invented…the world needs to focus on this.


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    • Sickputer

      Ever play pick up sticks game? The stakes are much higher in the removal of debris at all the units. Danger awaits beneath every "stick" at Daiichi. One mistake and the building collapses. On the ground I think we see the same principle on a different scale. Cranes and other removal machines dislodge rod parts and create small fires. I think this happens every day.


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      The heat and radiation is turning all that concrete to chalk. Every earthquake causes a little more to flake off. The only long-term support is the steel, and depending on how much salt water is hitting that, how long before corrosion takes its' final toll?

      And, really, would it be much worse than what's already happening?

      The increase in radiation from the complex is logarithmic. We're talking 1,000x increases, not simply percentages. Exactly like how earthquakes are measured.

      More plutonium in the atmosphere? Enough to kill every human on the planet 2,000x over, instead of 1,000x? Does it really matter at this point?

      And don't listen to the NWO Eugenics pushers. Remember, the NWO architects are all breathing the same contaminated air we are, drinking the same contaminated water, eating the same contaminated food. We're all in this together. They screwed themselves. This was not part of their plan. They are going to watch their kids die from cancer, just like the rest of us.

      Species extinction does not discriminate.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Hi Time Is Short,

        Would you please explain how to find info. on the logarithmic increase in radiation? Had not heard that one before. Have read the radiation increases dramatically if the fuel is not cooled. Is that true only of spent fuel, or fuel inside the reactors and "fresh" (i.e. unused) fuel as well?

        Please let us know. Many of us are "newbies" at all of this. I'm like a lot of others here and only started my "nuclear education" in the past year. Before 3/11 the extent of my nuke knowledge was how to shelter in place in case of disaster. Did that in March 2011, and have been researching this issue ever since.

        Thanks in advance for sharing info. with us.


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  • InfoPest InfoPest

    Since This Video Was Made They Did Remove Much Of The Equipment They Were Refering To Such As The Damaged Traveling Crane.


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  • VanneV anne

    NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS: The Very Real Possibility of A Global Nuclear Catastrophe
    Mar 26, 2012
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article33793.html


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  • jackassrig

    TEPCO continues to hang that "we can fix it" carrot out there. The fact is the SFP is so maasive and heavy that TEPCO is not going to be able to shore it up with bamboo and expert it to stand during an earthquake. TEPCO needs face reality that the damn thing is coming down. Now what can they do to mitigate the disaster.


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    • radegan

      Just blow tons of borated sand right under the fuel pool until the artificial dune is right under the pool, supporting it. The sand might also mitigate any leakage thru vitrification.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Radegan, I have been thinking along the same lines. Maybe they can start vitrifying the contents or around it as you stated. IMHO they should be building a gigantic wall around the whole thing, and making some plan to ease it down or entomb it. SOMETHING needs to be done. The structure is obviously toast so they need to begin thinking of something to encase it, IMHO.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This document…which is the ridiculous TEPCO fairy tale… Reactor 4…1,535 assemblies .including 204 new ones.
    Data on Daini as well. http://www.kantei.go.jp/foreign/kan/topics/201106/pdf/chapter_iv_all.pdf
    The chronology of the "cold shutdown"
    I read the comics on Monday mornings….


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    • Sickputer

      Lots of differing estimates of spent fuel rod and assembly figures in many articles since 311…the Tepco PowerPoint of 2010 has twice as much listed (Google "Fukushima Daiichi PowerPoint" to see page 9). As noted by others..possibly a math/wording typo for that slide.

      Another problem is news stories and nuclear "experts" often use the term "rods" when they mean "assemblies".

      Rods are the 12-13 foot metal-clad skinny containers full of uranium pellets (and some plutonium in MOX unit burners). Assemblies are the metal cages that hold a large number of rods to be lowered by crane into the reactor vessel and then extracted to the water cooling ponds.

      The number of rods in each assembly varies by the type/model of nuclear plant. Fukushima reactors hold 63 of the uranium-field rods in each assembly.

      An article in the Times when the numbers were first reported for rods/assemblies:

      "The 1,479 spent fuel rod assemblies there[Unit 4] include 548 that were removed from the reactor only in November and December to prepare the reactor for maintenance, and these may be emitting more heat than the older assemblies in other storage pools."

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/world/asia/18spent.html?pagewanted=all

      SP: Multiply that figure of assemblies by 63 to get how many nuclear rods are in Unit 4:

      93,177 rods filled with uranium in the Unit 4 spent fuel pond.

      That is the danger to Tokyo, Japan, and the world. I do not believe all of the Unit 4 rods burned up by a long shot. If they had the entire plant would have been abandoned long ago because the radiation levels would make it impossible to approach by land workers.

      Other units with more than a million rods would be burning and in the process of destroying the Northern Hemisphere. We know the weight of that Unit 4 pond with the water is massive. The building teeters on the edge of collapse. An earthquake may not even be needed for a final collapse. The nuclear sword of Damocles.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS.Pg. IV- 31


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  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    Another thing to keep in mind about SFP4: Remember that TEPCO recently took videos of reactor 4 and SFP 4, without offering much of an explanation of why? Reactor 4 was empty on 311. What were they looking for? One guess: They wanted to look at the condition of the new MOX fuel in SFP4. Are the bundles still intact? Can we clean up Reactor 4 enough to transfer the new MOX fuel from SFP4 to Reactor 4. Can we put the control rods back into Reactor4, so we can hold the new MOX fuel in cold shutdown? The control rods are currently stacked double height in SFP4 adjacent to the reactor.

    What did TEMCO find out? Remember the fires that burned in SFP4 after 311? Building 4 was demolished by a hydorgen explosion. The hydrogen was likely from melting Zircaloy clading on fuel exposed to air in SFP4 in the days immediately after 311. So it is likely that TEPCO has now confirmed that the new MOX fuel rods have been destroyed, and that Reactor4 couldn't be used to permanently store the new MOX in any case. What will they do? They will keep SFP4 full of water forever, and hope an EQ doesn't ever bring it down.


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    • CaptD CaptD

      Good Comment!
      Thanks

      What do you think about the idea of filling building #4 with concrete and creating a huge thick "POOL" surrounding the SFP?


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      • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

        CaptD: I like your idea. They had better get on this, as time is short. I believe the entire global response to Fuku is several orders of magnitude less than that required to adequately deal with the crisis. There should now be dozens of bulk freighters off Fuku, loaded with cement. There should be a number of dredges bringing up sand and gravel form the ocean floor off Fuku. There should be a dozen portable cement plants turning cement and gravel into concrete. Steel mills around the world should be working at 100% capacity to produce the required steel pilings and rerod. Military labor from many nations should be working around the clock driving interlocking steel pilings deep into the ground to build a cofferdam surrounding Buildings 1-4. They need an inner and outer cofferdam driven deep into bedrock about 100 feet apart. The material between the dams must be excavated, and the space filled with reinforced concrete. On this foundation, erect a Wall around the 4 reactor buildings, to a height much taller than the reactor buildings. Fill the reactor buildings with sand. Fill the space between the Walls with reinforced concrete. My concern is that I do not believe that even reinforced concrete could contain a criticality of the Pu at the bottom of SFP4 or from the MOX corium in the ground under Reactor 3, so this gigantic project would only be a temporary fix. I know that TEPCO has stated that 100% of contents of SFP4 was ejected, but I believe this statement is in error, or is a fabrication to provide TEPCO cover when they finally pump Building4 full of concrete. Most of SFP4 is still there. This has got to be an international effort. ELE.


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  • chrisk9

    New fuel bundles are not much of a hazard until they are put into the reactor and exposed to a chain reaction. They emit very little external radiation, unless they were damaged or broken apart, and then would be an alpha hazard.

    They will never be able to move fuel with a normal procedure for a number of reasons. The refueling bridge that moves the fuel is completely destroyed, there is significant fuel damage within the fuel pool, and there is too much debris in the SFP. The control rods are still in the reactor, as Boiling Water Reactors rods come up from the reactor bottom and are rarely removed.

    They have limited options for handling the SFP. They could strengthen the structure and hope for the best. But they would have to watch and maintain the building for the next 100,000 years. They could try to remove fuel and put in dry casts but that is not posible for several years until the fuel cools down some. But to do that they would have to devise some sort of huge crane and work platform that would hang over the the SFP and the building itself. Even then the work would take years (look at TMI fuel removal video).

    I do not know of anything stored above the fuel pool (which is on level 5 not level 4) except the huge overhead equipment crane that fell down.


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    • In trying to parse the info iwhat I'm hearing is that there were new assemblies in the equipment pool, which is on the other side of the reactor head than the spent fuel pool.


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      • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

        JoyB: you may be right on the position of the new MOX fuel. Chrisk9, good info. However, I have seen drawings that locate the control rods out of reactor4 on 311, stacked two high in the SFP4. In view of the water leak in SFP4 early on, it is safe to assume that all fuel assemblies are damaged.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Some old pictures from the measures they took to support the SFP with pillars and concrete…
    At least the steel looks galvanised to me, which should help to withstand the seawater corrosion.
    I remember though that a Japanese statical engineer expressed grave concern at the time regarding the weight of the added concrete wall pressing onto the already weakened structure of the building, as this element had never been part of the original static for unit 4.

    http://photo.tepco.co.jp/library/110730/handouts_110730_02-e.pdf


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  • CaptD CaptD

    As I posted above(which get overlooked):

    What do you think about the idea of filling building #4 with concrete and creating a huge thick "POOL" surrounding the SFP? This would provide a super think "bottom" and much thicker sides of an external (to the original) "encasing" SFP?
    Thanks


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    • gottagetoffthegrid

      CaptD,

      it is not a bad idea, but here are some issues to overcome:

      *all of the pumbing/wiring to the SPF is inside the building. that would have to be moved outside.

      *there is no "building" per se. All of the walls have been blown off, so you'd need to build a slip-form to surround the stucture.

      *the foundation strata may not take the load and may settle, which could inturn induce settlement in adjacent structures.

      * you'd have to start by filling the basements and this is where they are storing all of the contaminated water that is leaking from SPF 4. that leakage would need a need be handled otherwise.

      All of this is managable in a conventional context, but add in the nasty level of radiation it would be very challenging: it would definitely kill a number of the workers.


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      • Fall out man!

        And mass casualties amongst a huge number of workers would start to get harder to cover up. A lot of the response is about managing PR to to keep the Nuke industry's public image looking right. If they put the sort of effort in to sort this out that the Soviets did over Chernobyl (Which is what it would take to stabilize the situation) then that would in effect publicly admit there is a problem of global scale. Admitting there is a problem jeopardizes future construction of more of these suicide vests. That costs the industry money. So it ain't gonna happen. They'll do what they can to make it look like its all under control, and do enough to try to prevent future embarrassment. Its all about PR. The industry obviously could not care less about public safety, except where it means bad PR that they cannot contain.


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  • entropy

    Is there any factual assessment of where the SPF integratiy lies? We can guess that is must be in very bad shape. The northridge earthquake was a 6.2 and it flattened freeways. How it is withstanding those recent quakes is beyond belief almost. Nuck do any good close ups of that, or can we see it very well?


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    • Thank you Entropy

      This is precisely my question.

      What factual information do we have about the state of spent fuel pool #4.

      The NRC transcripts indicate it was very severely damaged, if not destroyed altogether.

      The webcams have shown a blue glowing orb in the center of the damaged and deliberately deconstructed #4 building.

      The glow suggests to me that the pool may still be there but very, very hot (insufficient cooling).

      What do we really know about it?

      I'm interested in what people believe to be the known facts about the pool


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      • CaptD CaptD

        I am too!
        Perhaps ENENEWS will start a thread "just" on SFP #4, where everyone can add the info they have so we can "distill" all of it into what is actually factual!


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      • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

        Majia: i beliefe the often discussed NRC comments were in effor, referring to SFP3 rather than to SFP4.


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        • Yes Philip…

          I agree that unit 3 was probably the one referenced as missing.

          However, there were reports that the side of the building (building #4) was cracked and that the pool was empty of water.

          I believe that the original NRC report posted on their webpage asserted that spfp #4 was burning but the burning was stopped by dousing with water (sea water I think)

          I do have supporting cites for these comments somewhere in my folder, but I do not know if the reports were accurate.


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          • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

            Majia: ok, we agree on NRC error. It was SFP3 that went 100% bye, bye, not SFP4. Later reports say SFP4 was dewatered due to pump failure and leakage.

            If you are on YouTube, search "Spent Fuel Pool 4", and look for the video with a photo of Building 4, level 4, taken pre-311 to get an idea of the layout.

            Radiation was very high at Fuku, but fell abruptly when seawater was pumped into SFP4. This is why we don't want to see SFP4 in a pile on the ground!

            CaptD: Great idea to fill Building 4 levels 1 to 4 with concrete, then build a concrete building on outside of Building 4, to keep the pool secure in case of big EQ. Build new remotely operated overhead crane on top of this wall to remove fuel assemblies and debris from SFP4.


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            • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

              Can't plug it up or stop it like the U.S.S.R. did. No real comparison.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-3Kf4JakWI


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            • CaptD CaptD

              Thanks
              By encasing the entire area OUTSIDE the SFP they could insure that the original SFP would not be vulnerable to new EQ's unless they were off the chart at which time all the other reactors would be also melting down because of massive leakages…

              The new encased SFP would be so massive that the entire "unit" wold move as one unit and not suffer from earth movements like the weakened SPF would now…

              The new overhead gantry crane would then be able to start the process of removing the spent fuel assemblies to a safer storage location in a precise manner…


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  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    That should be believe and error. Can't work keyboard on iPad!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    From 3:00 ..onwards.
    UNIT 4 SFP..4..dry…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP05OsUsm3o&feature=relmfu
    The remains of SFP 4 falls into burning spent fuel at bottom of reactor?
    Seems to me all that is left…


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  • patriot9878

    pan is done. The smart ones have left.


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Well I guess I was wrong about the SFP4 being already collapsed. If this is a current piece, they clearly state it is still in place. For now.


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  • billyedtimmy

    Just a few questions (forgive my naivety, I'm not that up on it all):

    (1) If this is as bad as conveyed (i.e.,"Armageddon"), and I have no reason to believe it's not, WHY OH WHY isn't Japan dumping as much money as possible into attempting to stablize Unit 4 SFP?? Seems the survival of their nation depends on this, so why not pull out all the stops (i.e., what good is any money left in their national bank if this thing collapses?)

    (2) What happened to the SFPs at the 2 reactors that exploded? Are those spent fuel rods distributed all over the reactor complex (and beyond) currently as well, and if so what makes Unit 4's SFP so much worse than that?


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    • Anthony Anthony

      *****The Daiichi complex had a total of 1760 metric tons of fresh and used nuclear fuel on site last year, according to a presentation by its owners, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco). The most damaged Daiichi reactor, number 3, contains about 90 tons of fuel, and the storage pool above reactor 4, which the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's (NRC's) Gregory Jaczko reported yesterday had lost its cooling water, contains 135 tons of spent fuel. The amount of fuel lost in the core melt at Three Mile Island in 1979 was about 30 tons; the Chernobyl reactors had about 180 tons when the accident occurred in 1986.****

      http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/03/how-much-fuel-is-at-risk-at-fukushima.html


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      • Hemisfear311 Hemisfear311

        Just to put things in perspective:

        The atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima in World War II contained 64 kg of Uranium, of which less than 1 kg underwent nuclear fission.

        Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy


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        • Anthony Anthony

          Without going WAY OFF on as tangent, I also find it interesting (but still disturbing and morbid) that if you consider the sequence of the accidents, they are increasing in dosage or outputs.

          Over a long period of time, even with the emissions, the overall planet population, arguably would be said to have expanded – not contracted.

          All the while we have endured and are enduring even higher and higher levels of radiation. We've had no choice in light of the lies and issues.

          My point is this would make an incredible science fiction movie where *one group* of individuals, changed the world all around the people and forced mutation. Whether we like it or not this radiation exposure has and is happening. Considering the future where possibly multiple reactors are spewing, this built up *resistance* to radiation may be the line between surviving or not.

          Its almost like it is planned and rolling out in stages.


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          • entropy

            I had an idea for a film but fiqured it's inappropriate… it turns out that THC coats the cells and protects them. So the only people left are stoners.
            But really, my friend uses this as a point that levels of radiation over time will build immunity. I can't tell her because she won't listen but radiation is excellerated molecules. Speeding around faster than any other. When a cell Is bombarded by this speeding proton. It is destroyed and can mutate. I don't see, but I'm no scientist, how this virus logic can be applied sub atomically. Unless we can evolve fast enough to form super cells that are denser.


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            • Fall out man!

              Entropy, your name is so appropriate for that comment. Radiation increases genetic entropy. Genetic entropy is Nuclear power's end. Most mutations cannot be selected upon because the damage they do is so slight. Instead they just build up as "genetic load". So all this extra radiation will create more mutations that are passed on down the generations weakening all life. Eventually, accumulated mutations will be the end of all life. Natural selection slows the process of decay down, but its not even close to stopping it. That is the dirty little secret of population genetics…

              http://creation.com/mutations-are-evolutions-end
              http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Entropy-Mystery-Genome-Sanford/dp/0981631606

              This is a huge deal. Genetic decay will eventually lead to the destruction of all life. We are getting weaker with each generation, not stronger. Evolution is actually Devolution if you like. When one realizes that, it becomes obvious that anything speeding up the process of genome decay is a disaster. All nuke plants cause increased mutation rates around them. Its actually very dirty power as all of them permanently have radioactive gas emissions (in large volumes) out their "cooling" towers 24/7 even when working as designed. In that sense, nuclear power is a disaster and can never be anything other than that. It must be stopped. Its a matter of survival. The genome started out perfect, and each generation is getting weaker. There's nothing we can do about it, but its madness to increase the rate of decay. Each generation has between 60 and 300 more mutations than the last. Most cannot be selected upon, they just build up. We truly are "in the bondage of decay".


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  • Ha Ha only people left are stoners. Hope some of them know how to make guitars and pizza! Seriously, a highly morbid discussion and I don't think increased radiation will help mankind. Those least resistant will survive but I would tend to call it a devolution.

    Is it Bread and Butter who is from Germany? What kind of airplay did this show get? Was it run late at night or "prime time" On a backwater science station or a popular mainstream type? Nice to know producer won awards and is respected in the industry.


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  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Oh boy…I can hardly wait to get back to this thread tomorrow, after I've slept, to savor all the delicious thoughts here.

    I'm off to bed to dream of better things and the wonders of your thoughts tomorrow.


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  • killedbydeath

    surely it's a question of 'when' not 'if' ?


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  • CaptD CaptD

    Thinking beyond Fukushima's SFP how about all the other radioactive waste?

    I wonder if the Nuclear Summet discussed any of these Key issues **not mentioned** in MSM coverage:
    1. Nuclear security is NOT getting FALLOUT from Fukushima…
    2. Where has all the highly radioactive material "gone" that was in Fukushima.
    3. Leaders DO NOT think Nature can destroy any land based nuclear reactor,
    …. any place anytime 24/7/365!
    4. Nuclear should be REDUCED not increased Worldwide.
    5. The **NEGATIVE** Health effects of Low levels of radiation.


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  • CaptD CaptD

    I can see a time very soon when another near meltdown occurs and those in control hold the rest of the Planet hostage (like Somali pirates) for huge amounts of money or they will just allow the reactor to really meltdown!

    What would be the Global response; nobody could "bomb" (the normal solution) them because it would only speed up the process!

    Remember those downwind have the most to loose!


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    • Interesting premise.

      This is somewhat similar to the plot of "The Mouse That Roared". This play was intended as a satirical comedy, in retrospect, maybe it was a tragedy, a 'warning' perhaps.

      "…unintentionally captures the 'Q-bomb' – a prototype doomsday device that could destroy the world if triggered.."

      "…with the most powerful bomb in the world now in the smallest country in the world, other countries are quick to react, …with the world at the tiny country's mercy…"

      from wiki:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mouse_That_Roared


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Pg 133…Unit 4..no walls.. pile of nuclear material.
    Pg.17 ..line 12..Unit 4..all units discussed.
    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1205/ML12052A108.pdf
    If…If…..done..


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  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    "The most likely consequence is that reactors 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 get out of control.

    Armageddon!"

    TEPCO: Can you at least remove the fuel assemblies from SFP 5&6 out of the area? Casts on RR cars? If not, at least move SFP 5&6 to a new common ground level SFP that can cool itself without human intervention? I would recommend you try SOLAR and WIND as a reliable source of power until the fuel is cool enough to move!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    From the above posted document..
    Pg 316 ..
    Line15:
    NRC Chairman Jaczko: Yes. So ,again,just to repeat,we believe No.4 is dry,and we believe one of the other pools is structurally damaged.
    Libne 19:Chuck Casto: That's correct.
    Line 23:
    Chuck Casto: And we certainly know, I think we absolutely know that pool #4, though the walls have collapsed.

    Pg. 319:
    Line 1:
    NRC Chairman Jaczko: Okay.
    Line 2:
    Chuck Casto: –on pool No. 4.
    Umm…. somehow… Jaczko for got to mention any of this in Congressional hearings.


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