Published: February 6th, 2012 at 4:22 pm ET
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Title: Fukushima Crisis Awakes After Reactor Heats Up Mysteriously
Source: Gizmodo
Author: Jesus Diaz
Date: Feb 6, 2012 3:35 PM
Just when you thought it was over, the temperature at reactor number 2 at Fukushima’s nuclear plant has soared 26.7 degrees Celsius in the last few hours. Worse: they don’t know why the temperature is increasing after being stabilized for so long.
The reactor reached 164 degrees Fahrenheit (73.3 degrees Celsius) after being stabilized at 113 degrees Fahrenheit (45 degrees Celsius) since last December. [...]
At this moment, temperature indicates approx. 71.0 °C (as of 11:00 am on February 6) [...]
Tepco has admitted that they don’t have a clue about what is going on. They have increased the amount of water pumped into the reactor ten percent, but their technicians don’t know what is going on. [...]
Helicopters have started to survey the area above the plant to gather information about the current radiation level in the air. [...]
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Published: February 6th, 2012 at 4:22 pm ET
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The comments on the article are fascinating – big food fight about whether the temperatures should be in Celsius or Fahrenheit.
That’s either some serious denial, or active work by shills to create a diversion.
As for “Just when you thought it was over”… what planet are they on?
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Isn’t it simply amazing that the bumbling clueless nuclear industry was able to sell so many a bill of goods?
It ain’t over till nobody sings.
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Bumbling clueless Tepco has finally admitted it doesn’t have a clue as to what’s going on! What a concept!
“Tepco has admitted that they don’t have a clue about what is going on. They have increased the amount of water pumped into the reactor ten percent, but their technicians don’t know what is going on. The change was detected in one of the three thermometers at the base of the reactor.”
Doh!
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Looked at the webcam posted earlier today. There is a bluish purple glow coming out of a hole in the wall of one of the reactors, about 2/3 of the way up. That’s #2 right? It appears as the building in the left hand side of the webcam pic.
If so, it has been there (the glow) for at least a couple of months.
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Fukushima Nuclear Plant Failures/Updates, Jan 30 – Feb 3 2012
Uploaded by rumorecurioso on Feb 3, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4z2tQEukY&feature=player_detailpage
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/
NHK is Japanese mainstream media — critical thinking is strongly advised!
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I think the buildings are sinking and moving around. Which is causing all the “stuff” to slowly move around, and refire. Even if no xeon is detected, I dont belive them.
As the bottom of the site , floor, ground and such start to fall apart we will see more stories.
I saw they drilled a 2 mile hole in Antarctica’s Lake Vostok.. We need a large hole here, down as deep as possible and inject this stuff into the mantel of the earth. Its already very radioactive down there and all the reactor cores would melt back into the earths core.
Sounds impossible, but Im sure for a trillion dollars someone could buid, drill and dump into the hole. Dont know what else you would do with it.
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@itstomd: though appreciated, there are a couple of problems with your ‘injection well’ proposal: unlike inert chemical compounds, you’d have to direct a liquified-coreum-mass into the well hole. There exists no practical technology for such process. Next, you’d have to safely bore into – and through – the earth’s mantle before redirection of the liquified-coreum-mass into the injection well-head. The farther away from the dangerous radioactive exposure, the more difficult the redirecting process. All of these challenges would also face the impossible process of handling such high-temperature liquid. And as the actual coreum mass varies in temperature gradients, there would be no guarantee that you’d be able to access an actual liquified mass. Finally, any attempt to pass such highly toxic materials through the mantle, risks affecting adjacent aquifers.
Tentative conclusion? It can’t be done…
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yes complex as anything. maybe 2 trillion dollars. part of the process would be of course moving it into the well.
id rather risk impacting aquifers on a local level then letting this keep spewing.
I mean Tungsten melts at over 6000F that could possible contain the coreum for a short time to move it, and line the well with.
I think they said no way we could get to the moon, could not be done too.
The crust is thin over there, i bet 2 trillion dollars it could be done. 1 trillion for the hole, 1 trillon for the move.
This site is sinking now and its a matter of time it keeps sinking and falling apart. it might make its own hole to the mantal anyways.
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@itstomd: it’s not even a question of money. If you factor in the long-term medical costs to the global population, I’d put such financial losses at an easy ten percent of each nation’s GDP! If you can even put a price on life and productivity, we’re talking cumulative losses into the hundreds-of-trillions!
Most misunderstand the scale of this disaster. Fukushima is not just an ELE (as some forewarn), as it promises to devastate the entire global economy. The solution to this crisis will not be so ‘cost effective’ as you’d suggest. In my opinion, two-trillion would be chump-change to get this problem solved. We’re facing a whole-new paradigm in economics; and have long passed the stage of treating Fukushima as one more of an endless stream of technical problems.
From what I’m observing in others, I’ve come to the realization that humans are incapable of getting past their own – individual – interests; that they’re unable to visualize a solution that does not include them or theirs. Put another way: the very hard-wiring that allowed for our ability to survive as individuals is now conspiring to slow our collective response.
We are failing in a very important test of our intelligence…
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Good observations. The bankers are going to have a field day where this calamity is headed. Alien test tube Evil that travels in so many different forms and so fast is like fighting World War III without any declared combatants. Everyone is screwed worldwide.
SP
Man uses his intelligence less in the care of his own species than he does in his care of anything else he owns or governs. ~Abraham Meyerson
Human beings cling to their delicious tyrannies and to their exquisite nonsense, till death stares them in the face. ~Sydney Smith
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Just a minor point, a hole to the mantle would
Be another term for volcano. Wont work. Now a space elevator might…
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hi is the radiation network down?
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Yellowrain …your info is likely here
http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-dec-17-2011-present
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The helicopters flying over again sounds like workers on site can’t get close to reactor 2. This whole debacle starts first with the design flaw that was having 6 reactors too close to each other so when one has an issue it makes working on the others impossible or suicidal. It seems like we are about to find out what happens when the cores breach the final barrier; first water is lost as it flows into the ground, second the foundations start to fail as the core bores though creating a void that the water starts to wash away and the cooling effects are completely lost, then the core super heats and or has another recriticality and blows up when it hits the water table. Heckofajob Tepco.
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So this is what The China Syndrome looks like. I have been dreading this moment for the last ten months. I was hoping it would take a little longer, hoping for some miracle that this could be avoided. I am so sorry, Mother Earth.
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@Replacant: I have to agree with your observation. Regardless of the cause, the idea of putting these facilities in such close proximity to one another, was a major F-up on the part of all concerned parties. Doubtless, they did this as means of expediting material controls and never wanted to table the possibility that any failures would impede access to adjacent facilities. See no evil…
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Its now up again. anyone else who regularly checks the site think the numbers look high the last few days? thanks
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It appears to be a little bit. Usually it’s roughly 48-50 stations at 22/23cpm average, today 54 are hooked up at 25cpm average… although, please keep in mind both PA stations that typically average 36-55 are up too so I’m sure that’s bringing up the average a bit.
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hi @ LetThemEatYellowCake are you part of there network? how are you averaging? does there software have tools to do this? thanks for your reply
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Hi yellowrain, yes, mine is one of those monitors bringing up the average in PA and yep, the average of all of the monitors attached to the network shows in the software. It’s pretty cool as you can view/download other stations’ graphs and readings too if you’re connected. Highly recommend if you have a geiger counter!:)
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i still think that they need to contact Ringling Brothers and get a large enough tent to contain the spray out of those things, then when the pressure builds up, they can suck it into tanks and try to filter it. at least make an effort to contain it. do something for Christ’s sake!!!
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@daddyfixit: they considered this approach awhile back. The main reason it can’t be done is the level of exposure to the construction crews. They’d have build scaffolding. Given the terrain and structural damage to these facilities, with even the best foresight on the part of project planners, it would take months to do. During that period, you’d have but minutes of exposure for each person. It would likely take tens-of-thousands of workers to do the job. It ain’t happening…
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Nuclear Follies Continue: Fukushima, Vermont Yankee, and San Onofre
by MICHAEL STEINBERG on FEBRUARY 6, 2012 · 2 COMMENTS
in ENERGY, ENVIRONMENT, HEALTH, SAN DIEGO, WORLD NEWS
http://obrag.org/?p=53894&cpage=1
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****In reality, this plan will be using the population in one gigantic ghastly experiment. Established scientific organizations such as the US Academy of Sciences have concluded that there is no risk free dose of ionizing radiation (the type released by nuclear weapons detonations and nuclear power operations). And the more exposure over a lifetime, the greater the risk.****
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At this point I hope the reports of strange lights in the sky were aliens with the tech to clean up this mess. Most likely they flew away saying “those stupid humans”. I feel that’s the only solution as Tepco seems to think wishing or ignoring the reactor cores will fix themselves. I agree its weird that this whole time the spent fuel pools have been open to the air and no one at Tepco mentions how much radioactive steam has been emitted let alone all the other discharges.
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If it was gold gas or platinum steam it would have been collected, and catalogued.Lets face it there is no resolution cause even if there was a creative plan set out on the table Tepco would have trashed anything that cost more than erecting a tent structure and throwing water around
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Well, we seem to be at the point of hoping for miracles. The Christians think in terms of ‘divine deliverance’; the more technologically minded are inclined to fantasize that ‘the aliens’ will bail us out.
Dream on, I say…
My favorite metaphor for the human race has long been seagulls on a garbage heap. Grab the goodies first before the other birds beat you to it.
Yes, basically our genetic makeup seems to be such that we are not equipped emotionally (and emotions do govern us, rather than rationality) to make the necessary/appropriate decisions in this ‘whole new world’ that our clever minds have created. Emotions rule, and emotions dictate things like ‘me first’ (or at best, ‘my tribe/group first’) and ‘get it while the gettin’s good and before the other guy does’.
Also, the wiser and kinder among us do not seem to be as motivated to scramble for power, fame, and fortune as are the ruthless and remorseless psycho- and socio-paths.
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Why would aliens want to bail us out? They would want to leave us to drown in a radioactive pit of our own making, rather than have us spread this plague to the rest of the universe.
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Well since Jesus Christ is who Christians are named after, and since creation demands a Creator, and the Bible says He was it, you just called Him who wrote the genetic codes for all life, and engineered all, a less than ‘technologically minded’ person.
By the way, aliens are going to arrive someday, probably rather soon. Billions of them. The Bible calls them angels. The world will likely see them as ‘aliens’.
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Been gone all day but Outnow just posted SOMETHING which I think deserves posting HERE:
“Something is wrong because there is no “chatter” by the pro-nukers. If Fukushima Dai’ichi reactors 2 & 4 are in trouble, and SONGS is having problems at the same time, we could have some real serious problems that require no speculating by the real professionals. Either that or the pro-nukers are shift workers and they aren’t allowed to blog on the job anymore.
The silence is deafening, in any event. Maybe they just can no longer say that “nothing is wrong.” They – some pro-nukers and governments – denied the initial meltdowns for months in some cases. Now we know that three meltdowns occurred within 36-hours of 3-11. We’re talking melt-throughs now. Number 4 reactor spend fuel storage pool is unstable. How do you keep thousands of tons of spent and apparently un-spent fuel rods up three stories in close proximity to three melted through reactors? Unless you can juggle thousands of tons of highly radioactive fuel rods, you pray alot!
We have pulled some military personnel out of there. Coincidence? No containmeet on reactors #4 spent fuel pools three stories up and leaning. How can you keep pouring water on those rods?
I’m worried to tell you the truth. Arnie Gundersen said that if #4 spent fuel pool at Dai’ichi falls, we are toast, literally, in the Northern hemisphere. I’m not an engineer or a scientist; I just go by what some of the the experts have said and by what is apparently happening.
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We have learned that fixing these reactor disasters is very expensive in terms of human lives and money. The powers who own these reactors are never going to pay for it to get fixed correctly…that’s why in the USA the nuclear powers have that all worked out…the tax payer is already in line to pay for the clean up. Tepco is doing everyhting on the cheap…throwing toxins in the water the air, burry it in school yards…and it will continue to be that way til the sheeple stand up to them…Japan where is your backbone????
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Hi many moons
All people need to stand up against Nuclear Power, or is it already to late? Did this Nuclear Disaster seal the worlds fate?
If not, how many more disasters will it take?
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Geez! Tepco doesn’t have a clue why this is happening?..clue??
Anybody here at enenews want to tell them?
Hey Tep-Guys, you are destroying life on the planet through incompetence, hubris, putting profits over people, and always looking to the bottom line.
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I never thought anything was over and shame on the media for fooling others into thinking it was.
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Homer Simpson’s in No. 2 broiling a turkey. That explains the temperature increase, and any power drops.
He’s preparing several turkeys, some for himself, and some for Tepco officials.
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@ Whoopie – please follow up on your fears/speculations posted above.
What you say bears considering.
Given how shaky the condition of SFP 4 seems to be, up there so high, with damaged goods all around it and itself somewhat damaged (right?)… it almost seems probable that it WILL go sooner or later — wouldn’t you say? I mean, the whole damn place just keeps falling apart, bit by bit.
I am asking Whoopie and all the people here who have been following these technical details more closely than I.
Also, initially, I did not understand when Arnie said that (that we are in deep do-do if SFP 4 goes), that the spent fuel rods are so very VERY toxic/radioactive, worse than the corium – right? Actually FAR worse(?) And there are hundreds of them in SFP 4 – right?
So it really is a dead serious situation and it is beginning to look like the PROBABILITY seriously is that Japan will be toast, and perhaps indeed the entire No. Hemisphere… and eventually, many, a whole lot, of those radio-nuclides WILL get into the So. Hemisphere – right?
I would certainly appreciate getting the more tech and science minded among you to speak to this, and thanks to Whoopie for mentioning it.
It is not a great movie, but not a really bad one – ON THE BEACH – it has rather been haunting me, since I watched it… the people of Australia, the only ones left alive on the planet, waiting for the drift to get to them. Very simplified, not wholly realistic — but basically I am beginning to feel that that is our situation. A prophetic movie.
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Some of us will survive -one third of population according to Revelations, Bible. God is not going to perform a miracle to save us because we are so bent on self destruction. There will be other natural catastrophes also. People will survive more than ten years from now.
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Correction one third will die, two thirds will survive according to Revelations,
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When TEPCO says they don’t have a clue… they might be lying. They just don’t want to tell us because it’s too bad.
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I have read that every generation for over a thousand years has believed that they are living in the times of “Revelations”.
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Bleep-hits-blades,
I know every generation thought they were living the end times, unfortunately we are living them. I can forecast some things from my future – At the moment we have between 10 and 20 years until the end day when those who believe in God will be saved.
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LOL thanks bleep
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I used to love Gizmodo. I always found their commenters to be insightful and funny. With excitement, I went to read what the community had to say and what I found disappointed me. The overwhelming majority of comments were regarding the use of the metric system vs. imperial. Software engineers and gadget punks are such assholes. There have been a few other articles there regarding Fukushima, and the commentaries are filled with stupidity. No one but the readers of enenews takes this seriously. If that fuel pool falls, I’m going to have some big decisions to make…and quick.
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If you say so, Alexa.
This is on topic for this site?
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Bleep-hits-blade,
It is on topic because Fukushima and radiation generally kickstarted the Bible Revelation type events. Posters are concerned about an immediate extinction event – This is why I shared the fact that Fukushima will not be an extinction event.
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Alexa,
You have your religious beliefs, I have mine, someone else has other beliefs. None of it is provable or dis-provable.
That view of yours that you get from the Bible is not empirically verifiable. It is a BELIEF.
The founding fathers wisely said, let each have his/her own religious BELIEFS; that is private and personal. This other stuff (what is on-going at Fuk. and nuclear news worldwide) is stuff we all agree on as a topic, it is empirically
investigate-able/verifiable and we are here to talk about it, not religion.
Religion is not on topic here at enenews.com
You are welcome to your beliefs; but not all here share them. I’ve been preached at so much in my lifetime that frankly I do not like it. If I wanted preaching I’d go to church.
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I agree with you bleep-hits-blades. I am not preaching to anyone, please do not get upset. I am just sharing what I know, thinking outside the box.
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Thanks, alexa,
I am not so much ‘upset’ as just not wanting to hear (yet again) about the Bible and what it says – or the Koran and what it says, or the Talmud etc.
I know you mean well, and it’s great that you have religious beliefs that help you to handle life’s challenges etc. But not everyone shares those beliefs. And those who don’t find it rather tiresome to have others start in on it – yet again. Been there, done that, so many times. Enough already.
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@bleep: I agree. I didn’t want to disparage Alexa’s take on this nightmare, so I refrained from responding to her.
We are all in this now. Any perspective that does not include others is counterproductive. Thanks for speaking on behalf of the ‘ancients’…
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