*Goddard’s Journal* US gov’t study: Radioactive pollution good for you? Current radiation limits may not be necessary — Exact opposite conclusion of accepted scientific research (VIDEO)

Published: January 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm ET
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Title: ☢ Low-Dose Radiation ☢ Department of Energy Study
Source: Goddard’s Journal
Date: Jan 22, 2012

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See also: Nuclear Expert: Fukushima risk underestimated -- 5% of young girls will get cancer living in 20 milliSv/y for 5 years -- "Actually worse than that" -- Hot particles NOT included & only counts cancers, not other effects (VIDEO)

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58 comments to *Goddard’s Journal* US gov’t study: Radioactive pollution good for you? Current radiation limits may not be necessary — Exact opposite conclusion of accepted scientific research (VIDEO)

  • farawayfan farawayfan

    The only thing as soulless as the corporations that push nuclear are the governments that have been bought by them.


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  • CB CB

    Dr.Helen Caldicott has fought this tooth and nail. Here is some of her work. Caldicott was involved with Physicians for Social Responsibility, an organization of 23,000 doctors committed to educating others on the dangers of nuclear energy.
    Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1985
    Dr Helen Caldicott – Fukushima Nuclear Disaster- You won’t hear this on the Main Stream News
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITrXVJMKeQ 9min54sec
    20110409 12 Caldicott
    http://vimeo.com/22579986 36min56sec
    Effects of Nuclear Radiation on the Human Body
    http://standeyo.com/News_Files/NBC/radiation.human.body.html


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  • Room101 Room101

    Science has been turned into a joke–a tool for those in the plutonium business. Maybe late 20th century science is all fiction.
    Love you all.


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    • or-well

      Hi Room101,
      “When I think back to all the crap I learned in High School”…
      even tho “they” would make “their” fiction our reality, honest science can reveal their lies, misdirection and plain ignorance. One struggle is to actually apply what has been learned and disseminate it thru the controlled media fog. Like they say about grocery stores, ya gotta shop the perimeter for fresh…
      Cheers and hopes for keeping Winston and Julia and the singing woman at her clothesline safe…


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      • Room101 Room101

        Under the spreading chestnut tree
        I sold you and you sold me.

        Science has been sold. It cost so much to fund even the smallest study! My girlfriend is an ocean scientist, and when we discuss her work, I am always shocked how little we know about this thing that covers most of our planet. We don’t even know ourselves, our world, our universe. What previous generations have fought and suffered to experience and learn, we find convenient to ignore, forget, or just flat out never learn. Too bad Chernobyl was 25 years ago–it barely registers as a recent event in the minds of the little turds that are assigned by the media to cover this disgusting event. We’ll have to suffer all over again. And then it will happen again. Everyone will say, “Wow, I can’t believe this happened again.”

        And here we’ll be.
        Under our tree.
        Hee hee.


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Damage control campaign.


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  • or-well

    I’m freaking out!

    Sharpen the pitchforks, knot the nooses,
    light the torches & mount your mooses!
    Pacifists all, get out of the way,
    when the sorting is done
    you’ll have your say,
    but until that day in a nest of vipers
    some must wade as Humanitys fighters
    to sever the heads, rotten & stinking
    of those who destroy us
    lying unblinking, with mercy for none –
    the power elite who command the big guns
    the rapacious warmongers
    and corporatists too, the oligarch class
    who don’t care about you
    as long as you’re silent
    and stupid and still
    they’ll rape the earth and millions kill
    with GMOs, drugs & toxic pollution
    seeking a sneak population solution
    etc etc and into the street
    I run shrieking and bleating
    like one rabid sheep.


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  • radegan

    And what was old is new again – bring back those Radium Bottles!!! Yessir, Radium – that wonderful substance that will charge your beverages with atomic power and fill you with it’s lifegiving and completely harmless rays. Get one for every member of your family, children’s sizes now available!”


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Howdy all,

    And they are getting uppity about the food over in japan also. The farmer and food markets and govt are all concerned about the food they will produce over there as well they should be. What is sad to see n this quote below is the elders do not get the same concerns that those under 20 years of age do.

    Kind of like the attitude of death panels in the obamy care. Besides the higher taxes placed on EVERYTHING one can buy that took affect on the first of January, the growing attitude in a lot of this kind of stuff is based on the population reduction agenda.

    More important is we are concerned about growing OUR garden this year.

    From this link:

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/

    “There are people in Japan who are proposing a system whereby all food items will carry labels like “not fit for consumption for people under 20″. They want the older people to eat radioactive food so that the farmers in Fukushima can continue to farm.”

    Oh what can come next?


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      “Oh what can come next?” Among other things, the people under 20 will turn 20. I wonder what they would do – would it be a rite of passage like smoking a cigarette or driving a car, or would it be something that scares the heck out of them?


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  • selfsovereign

    In the face of scientific fact about the non-linear/AMPLIFIED damage done by low dose radiation, which shows the same membrane destroying effects over a longer time period – These judas goats still insist their cow can fly?!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petkau_effect

    I suspect this low dose amplification could also apply to cell phones/wi-fi. The safety standard of ‘as long as cellular heating doesn’t occur-it’s safe’ is shown to be doubtful by this 1970′s petkau research.


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  • aigeezer aigeezer

    I saw this in an unrelated newsletter today: “… was true of engineers during the Roman era. If they built a bridge that fell down, the people who paid for it were out a considerable amount of money. So the engineers were required to stand under the bridge when the scaffold was taken away. If the bridge failed, the engineer was toast.”

    It’s not off topic – the point is the lack of connectedness in modern life between the decision makers and the consequences of their decisions.

    It’s got to change, one way or another. Or-well’s cool poem (3:43 above) will have a growing appeal. He sure picked a good user name for the times we live in.


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  • arclight arclight

    and from the pro nuclear uk university community when asked about belarus and heart problems, the reply from imperial college londons press office with advice from geraldine thomas, had this to offer..

    ““Caesium does not accumulate in any tissue, and so the dose received over a long period of time (Caesium has a half-life of 30 years, iodine a half-life of 8 days) is a low whole body dose. High doses of non-radioactive Caesium can damage the heart (several grams per day over a long period) and high doses of radioactive Caesium can be used as a cancer treatment. However, the amount of Caesium ingested by the population was small.””

    “If you are interested in further information about this, you may wish to look at the following scientific papers. These show that only the liquidators who received much higher doses than the resident population show any effects on the heart and the issue of whether or not these are genuine effects of radiation is still being debated.”

    A review by Richard Wakeford, a UK Epidemiologist: http://iopscience.iop.org/0952-4746/31/1/E02/pdf/0952-4746_31_1_E02.pdf

    A review written for a Special Edition of Clinical Oncology by Elisabeth Cardis and Maureen Hatch: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21396807.

    a rather interesting bit of reading… though it might give you a minor headache :)

    oh and that video report… outstanding

    thought that the uk “low dose is better than no dose” view should be aired here.. think its appropriate…

    that was alot of money given to the usa universities.. no wonder they have to knock out some peer reviewed.. oh i mean really basic testing results to proove their case…

    alot of money given to the uk nuclear based schools too! so they have to show some results.. as do the bbc guardian..etc

    the pro nukes seem to have things tied up nicely!! they think! :)

    do i smell an allison wade theory around here somewhere??? lol!


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    • arclight arclight

      and from the title.. if they approve this.. will we be able to get a breakdown of the isotopes in the water in long island?.. like they do in europe?? maybe the different isotopes are good for different parts of the body.. you could sell bottled sellafield, high in plutonium… good for the eyesight?? where will it all end? (probaly not a good question to ask around here but…. :) )


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  • Dr. Awesome Dr. Awesome

    Orwellian Reasoning:
    Peace is War
    Up is Down
    2 + 2 = 3
    Wrong is Right
    Radiation is Healthy

    How about this conclusion…Radioactive pollution is healthy for government officials only.

    We are constantly bombarded by a chaotic cornucopia of chemicals coupled with ionizing and non-ionizing radiation and a variety of stressors. Did the study factor this into their “artificial” experiment environment?
    Logic coupled with years of medical data have supported the fact that health quality is directly effected by environmental conditions. Radioactive exposure is cumulative, it doesn’t dilute.
    The US government will fine you for not wearing a seatbelt then turn around and drop bombs on people.
    “Think for yourself man, don’t do what they do. It’s a sick world, you just gotta stay true. Stay true and everything will be cool. You gotta blaze your own trails and make your own rules.” -Daddy X

    Glad to see some critical thinkers here.
    Peace.
    No Nukes!


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  • aigeezer aigeezer

    Admin: Minor spelling quibble, it’s Goddard (3 “d”s, not 2), in case people want to look it up.

    In honor of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard

    … as in NASA’s Goddard Flight Center, as in the heart of nuke world, as in the belly of the beast.

    I notice the YouTube comments on the piece are lively. (hint, hint).


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      I hope I didn’t create a misperception – the guy who runs the YouTube channel “Goddard’s Journal” is opposed to the pro-nuke stuff coming from the government studies cited. “Goddard’s Journal” is good stuff. What he’s talking about is bad stuff.


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  • entropy

    I said a while back (and most probably thought I was wacko:)) 12 men sew a tapestry below Rockefeller center.
    Only a few men control the world and just as the Greeks, we have little choice. But they make us think we do.
    I have a very intelligent friend who jokingly states we will build a tolerance to it in small doses. I think she has been conditioned to come to such an outrageous conclusion from reports like this.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A blatant denial of scienfic fact…my,my… how desperate..
    How pathetic….
    …. there are those that know better……
    http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2011/04/
    Radiation…is sickness ..mutation and death…


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  • Alice Alice

    Science doing a flipflop?

    Brings to mind Einstein’s quote: “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?”


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  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    SARC WARNING…….
    Thank you SOOOOOO much, US Gov Dept. of Energy for this well researched and enlightening study. (Of course, you have no axe to grind!)
    I guess Sweet Ann Coulter was right after all!
    Radiation IS GOOD FOR YOU!


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  • jdotg

    Where exactly does this state that radiation is ” good for you” ? I must have missed that part, or didn’t enjoy the sensationalism it represented. Did anyone read the article? Or did we all just simply watch the spooky video?

    Oh.. your abnormal cells? bronchial epithelial cells? Lung tissue. Fibroblasts? Connective Tissue. Both commonly found in all animals. FAIL

    “MCF-10A cells are an excellent model system for understanding epithelial cell biology.”

    “To test if the dose-dependent DNA damage response was
    specific to breast epithelial cells, the same measurements were
    made on immortalized human skin fibroblasts”

    “Sheets of highly organized epithelial cells line all the cavities and free surfaces of the body”

    “Our data show that at lower doses of ionizing radiation, DNA repair mechanisms work much better than at higher doses”

    Their research suggests that at low-levels of radiation. It appears the body can actually heal itself and repair the DAMAGE caused by low-levels. While receiving high-doses the ability to repair it’s self is diminished significantly. These “RIF” are found in areas of the DNA which are BROKEN

    “Multiple repair activity increases the risks of broken DNA strands being incorrectly rejoined and that can lead to cancer.”

    Clearly them stating that radiation is indeed carcinogenic.

    “This phosphorylated H2AX (γ-H2AX) is involved in the retention of repair and signaling factor complexes at sites of DNA damage.” More evidence of DNA repair and suggesting the body realizing its being harmed by radiation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1087258/

    “However, when cells are exposed to ionizing radiation doses large enough to cause multiple double strand breaks at once, DNA repair centers become overwhelmed and the number of incorrect repairs increase.”

    Merely, suggesting that LNT model, is not exactly correct.

    But still maintaining, more radiation you recieve the worse…


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  • aigeezer aigeezer

    Troll alert. Google “jdotg enenews” for past behavior.


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  • DOE: “Supporting our Nation’s Nuclear Industry” pretty much sums it up.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Yes aigeezer-Gobbledygoop.


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  • “DOE responds to security allegations, says it will monitor WSI’s investigation ‘very closely’”

    The Department of Energy today responded to allegations that a security officer slept on the job and used an unauthorized electronic device inside Building 3019, a high-security nuclear facility at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. Photographs reportedly taken of the security guard inside 3019 have been distributed to multiple organizations, including the News Sentinel.

    In a statement, federal spokesman Mike Koentop said, “DOE Oak Ridge Office first and foremost has ensured the security posture remains intact and strong at Building 3019. At the same time, WSI will complete their investigation of the situation to determine the facts; and DOE ORO will monitor this investigation very closely. WSI-Oak Ridge has assured us that the investigation will be performed in a timely manner, and when the facts are gathered DOE-ORO will ensure the appropriate actions are taken.”

    From “Frank Munger’s Atomic City Underground” blog:

    http://blogs.knoxnews.com/munger/2012/01/doe-responds-to-bldg-3019-secu.html


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      I’m chuckling that they are proud to have “ensured the security posture remains intact and strong” rather than being proud that the security remains intact and strong. Posturing, indeed!

      Freudian slip?


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  • bleep_hits_blades

    Re the elites ‘not caring about old people’ – it goes beyond that, of course – they actively want us to DIE. We are the most obvious and burdensome of the ‘useless eaters’.

    Re the corruption and callous attitudes of govt. and big business – the Founding Fathers could have told us ALL about it. In fact they did and warned that if we weren’t careful it would be ‘deja vu all over again.’

    The more things change the more they stay the same.

    Corrupt, amoral elites; manipulable masses.

    This is why I don’t see any big changes, awaking, evolvement of consciousness – whatever you want to call it – ever happening.

    Human nature has a pretty consistant track record and ‘what you see is what you get.’

    Frederic Bastiat put it in a nutshell – work is unpleasant. Plunder is easier than work. People will try to find a way to plunder rather than earn a living the hard way. Government, with its monopoly on the powers legally to tax and use force is the TOOL OF PLUNDER par excellence.


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  • Thyroid problems, pituitary gland tumors, Parkinson’s disease, autism and allergies.

    Want to bet these diseases are caused by exposure to “low” levels of radiation?

    DNA analysis of people with autism finds microdeletions of DNA. No clear idea why.

    Parkinsons has already been tied to pesticide use–it is an environmental disease even if one has more susceptibility because of particular alleles or general level of health.

    Allergy incidence in western industrial world increasing. No known reason why.

    Thyroid disease rising…

    It is obvious.


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  • Auntie Nuke

    This is just the pro-nukers flooding the world with confusing pseudo-scientific blather, so we get all caught up in our knickers trying to put out this “fire” than ignoring it for the hogwash it is and putting our energies into more positive endeavors. It’s “hormesis,” which I like to think of (in applying it to those who espouse it) as “whore-me-is,” which is what these assholes are – whores to the nuke industry (my apologies to prostitutes for demeaning what is actually an honest profession). When incest survivors started suing their perpetrators and winning big financial settlements, the perps banded together, raised money and started a HUGE pr campaign around “false memory syndrome,” with no science to back it up. But with repetition, the idea took hold, undermined the victims, and recourse was denied. This is the same BS, trying to turn us from our anti-nuke work into dithering away our energies.


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  • radegan

    Given the polonium in cigarettes, shouldn’t we revive smoking? Radiation is sooo good for you, start smoking today!


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  • stopnp stopnp

    Goddard’s journal. He has a youtube channel too. Check him out


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