Published: October 29th, 2012 at 6:23 am ET
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Follow-up to: Officials in Connecticut warn of giant 16-foot storm surge, with 15-foot waves on top of that -- State's nuclear plant directly exposed on ocean (PHOTOS)
CNN: “It could be bad or it could be devastation.” -U.S. Coast Guard Rear Adm. Steven Rattior
NBC: “The last time we saw anything like this was never… I don’t know how to say it any clear than that is the largest threat to human life our state has experienced in anyone’s lifetime.” -Connecticut Gov. Dannell Malloy said Sunday
Watch Governor Malloy’s briefing here
Published: October 29th, 2012 at 6:23 am ET
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Is it just me who thinks some of these statements could have directly been taken from a Hollywood Blockbuster script?
No doubt it's a very seroius situation, and I sincerely hope this will be the worst storm the Governor sees in his lifetime. Though I doubt it.
"Worst ever recorded" is the new normal, get used to it.
Good luck to all!
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I just heard a Governor announcing its not the intensity its the DURATION that's potentially deadly.
I believe him.
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No doubt Hollywood is jockeying for the movie rights.
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I am 1 block from the shore in New Haven CT. Last year people died in my neighborhood as a result of not leaving during Irene. The Governor is not understating the situation. IF we see an 11 foot surge most of the area will be under water. I am at 14 feet above sea level. WISH ME LUCK
and prey that Millstone holds up.
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you better evacuate your going to have water higher than you think it is better to go to a shelter in a sturdy building that is high above ground your going to have hours and hours of water building up I have been in those situations and not counting the tornadoes so go to a shelter mark in Texas
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Still alive. No high winds or flooding yet in my area. Should start to pick up in about 2 hours though. We are kinda sitting around wait for it at this point. . . 12pm monday.
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Careful bmurr….be careful.
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bmurr, We are in PA and the eye is suppose to pass directly over us which I think is a good thing for a little while anyway. Take good care and no worries.
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bmurr, some folks are getting caught up in how bad does it have to be to be newsworthy. May i echo your concerns – this is not about wind folks, this is about water. A potentially enormous mass of water is heading onto shore and may be driven inland through heavily populated areas, much of it paved, which forces water to channel and race. If you've ever try to walk in a foot of surging water moving 30 mph or faster without falling over, then you understand. High category hurricanes, especially fast moving big ones, can be relatively dry compared to these low category water carriers. You can almost drown just standing in the rain coming down it can be so dense as to push all the air away from you. So let's send bmurr our best hopes for him and everyone and everything dealing with this storm. And, once again, recall that Fukushima fuel pumps flooded…i repeat, flooded. It wasn't the lack of power. It was the flood that took the reactors down. The pumps wouldn't have worked no matter how much electricity or propane they had on hand.
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quad threat by tides
high tide
moon tide
storm tide too
and then long lasting for hours will push water up higher
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For the love of God in your life, you cannot save your house by going down with it. Yesterday ene stories said 20+ foot surges may be expected…or MORE. Do you not have a car to drive inland? Do you have friends with cars? Surely there is a way provided to evacuate. I am not going to pat you on the virtual head and say "Be Safe." I am going to scream at you to GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. Your house will either be there when you get back…or it won't. But YOU will.
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Agreed. The updates on tv are certainly telling. Better safe and alive than sorry.
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I would have played it safe and gone to a different State until this was over. I would not want to put anyone at risk trying to save me.
There are also higher ground and shelters.
It's better to be safe than take a chance. Hopefully this won't be as bad as they say, but why take the risk?
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Google offers very detailed coverage of the storm:
http://google.org/crisismap/2012-sandy
You can select features (such as webcams or shelter locations), zoom to areas of interest, and so forth.
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Great link aigeezer, thank you
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Let's not forget..Tornadoes can form when hurricanes make landfall
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I'm not seeing much of a chance of storm surge over 6 feet in NOAA'a data, and that is around the southern tip of Staten Island, in the far back reaches of the bay.
Like I said, prepare if you are in the path, but let's not let the imagination of the 2012 storm that is supposed to wipe out the east coast with massive waves. This is still just a Cat 1 hurricane.
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@Dosdos the storm may not be bad but you might well want to remember what a politician can do when everyone's head is turned. If you think the storm isn't an issue then I suggest you keep your ear to the ground about whatever is happening behind closed doors.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.con
It's always your friend for such things. There may very well be some vote machine tampering happening right now.
If this does turn into a monster storm then their plans won't work anyway.
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“It could be bad or it could be devastation.”
“The last time we saw anything like this was never… I don’t know how to say it any clear than that is the largest threat to human life…”
Sounds like they could be describing Fukushima Daiichi's catastrophic ongoing TRIPLE Nuclear Reactor meltdown.
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4.5 million People live within 50 miles of the Oyster Creek Nuclear Facility in New Jersey, it is the oldest Nuclear Plant in the country, (although some would debate that the title of oldest should go to Palisades in Michigan). If power is lost at the nuclear facility, backup generators will hopefully kick in, if not they can always go out and collect a bunch of car batteries to keep everything going as they did in Fukushima, no joke. These are among some of the great improvised back up plans that the global nuclear energy industry has come up with during a crisis that they never thought would happen. Another one was building a berm with sand bags and plastic to protect the Ft. Calhoun Nuclear Plant in Nebraska from flooding in 2011. A worker punctured the berm and almost flooded the nuclear plant. They came within literally inches of flooding out. The nuclear plant is still shut-down. I am sure constant reassurances are going out to elected officials by the NRC and the nuclear operators that they can handle any problems that occur, they are “ready”, they have “plans”, “Backup plans”, “Satellite Phones” and NRC inspectors “on-site”. Let’s see what they may have to improvise this time.
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One more thing the original license for Oyster Creek expired in 2009, they got a 20 year extension, then had some Tritium leaks and other issues, so they cut a deal to shutdown in 2019, only 7 years left until this dinosaur is shutdown.
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Good points to consider.
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Check this out, I have been watching this view for a few days, and I keep wondering why the MSM has not allowed anyone to see this.. I have to tell you, although, I am not an expert, this looks bad, really bad.. watch the way the storm is sucking other weather from places due west and south, and look at the monster to the east of Sandy.. is it possible, that Sandy, which looks tame by comparison, could draw this back in towards our east coast???
At minimal, very, very, interesting..
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/natl/flash-rb.html
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A+
"…very, interesting" – understatement
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That whole giant storm to the East of Sandy is the color of Sandy's eye.. good lord! ..and you can kinda see storms firing up down in the Caribbean too.. it sure looks like Sandy is pulling them all toward her… I really hope it is an optical illusion.
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updated loop, looks like the back end of Sandy got split/pulled off and is joining the monster at sea.. It will give that storm even more power.. gotta wonder if Sandy will loop out,as the top(north end) of the storm occurs to be doing and join up with that monster, could it slam the East coast again, even more powerful?
I sure would not want to be in the ocean where these two beasts occur to be getting ready to meet up. The next few loop updates could be even more interesting.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/natl/flash-rb.html
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the new york times and the wall street journal have wavered the subscription rules so people can access the news there too!
and a story from japan about the downsides of nuclear accidents here
Lingering radiation around Mount Akagiyama in northern Maebashi =2 year ban on fish
"“Hato Bus Co., which used to organize tours to the lake every year, plans no such visits this autumn because of the ban on taking the smelt home. Furthermore, elementary and junior high schools have canceled student trips.”"
"Samples taken ahead of this year’s season found that one fish contained 210 becquerels per kilogram, higher than a newly lowered limit of 100 becquerels, the level which the government set in April for food excluding water, milk and baby food."
http://nuclear-news.net/2012/10/29/lingering-radiation-around-mount-akagiyama-in-northern-maebashi-2-year-ban-on-fish/
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UPDATE- Salem and Hope Creek reactors likely to shut -Reactors in Pennsylvania and Maryland could shut
PJM is the biggest power grid in the United States serving
more than 60 million people in 13 U.S. Mid-Atlantic and Midwest
states and the District of Columbia
http://nuclear-news.net/2012/10/29/update-pseg-salem-and-hope-creek-reactors-likely-to-shut-reactors-in-pennsylvania-and-maryland-could-shut/
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nuclear plant safety in the usa is going to get worse in a couple of years.. extend retirement compulsory?
Slight hitch, bad planning! USA- 39 percent of nuclear-industry workers will reach retirement by 2016
http://nuclear-news.net/2012/10/29/slight-hitch-bad-planning-usa-39-percent-of-nuclear-industry-workers-will-reach-retirement-by-2016/
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Agreed, Bmurr GET OUT OF THERE !!
Get to higher ground !!
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"…largest threat to human life our state has experienced in anyone’s lifetime…"
Seems the politicos & MSM shills are best at crying havoc. But no matter how they handle this, there are people who just HAVE to hang out at the shore to check out the so-called "storm of the century." I have swum in the ocean all my life. I come from a seafaring family and have had near ancestors lost at sea. Anyone who knows anything about the ocean understands that even on a calm day it can be treacherous. During a bad storm, hie thyself to higher ground, for heaven's sake!
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