Published: September 12th, 2014 at 6:45 pm ET
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Bloomberg, Sept. 12, 2014 (emphasis added): Solar Storms Sending Biggest Threats to Earth Today and Tomorrow — Airlines have rerouted some flights and global positioning system and radio transmissions may be degraded through tomorrow as two solar eruptions strike Earth and affect its magnetic field… When the ejections reach Earth, they will touch off geomagnetic storms that are forecast to last at least until tomorrow… Earth should be spared the most crippling impacts of these kinds of events, which can include disruptions to electric grids… what worries scientists [and] electric grid operators… is
that they can get big and cause severe problems.
WFLA, Sept. 11, 2014: Two giant solar flares head to earth — Scientists warn two solar flares heading our way are some of the biggest seen in several years… A spokesman with Duke Energy [largest regulated US nuclear power company] tells us – “We are prepared to take action if needed, to protect our systems.”
Irish Examiner, Sept 11, 2014: A strong solar flare is blasting its way to Earth, but the worst of its power looks like it will barely skim above the planet and not cause many problems. It has been several years since Earth has had a solar storm of this size coming from sunspots smack in the middle of the sun, said Tom Berger, director of [NOAA’s] Space Weather Prediction Centre in Boulder, Colorado… the soonest it could arrive is late tonight UK time (early Friday in the US). But it could be later, Berger said… “There’s been a giant magnetic explosion on the sun,” Berger said. “Because it’s pointed right at us, we’ll at least catch some of the cloud” of highly energised and magnetised plasma that can disrupt Earth’s magnetic sphere, which sometimes leads to temporary power grid problems.
NOAA, Sept. 12, 2014: The second of the expected coronal mass ejections (CMEs) has arrived… storming is underway now and the forecast [is] for G3 (Strong) storming on the 13th.
NOAA Space Weather Scale for Geomagnetic Storms — Effect of G3 Storm on Power Systems: Duration of event will influence severity of effects… Voltage corrections may be required, false alarms triggered on some protection devices.
NBC News, Sept. 12, 2014: The sun shot out a double burst of electrically charged particles — known as coronal mass ejections, or CMEs — directly toward us… one accompanied a strong X1.6 flare on Wednesday… Berger said the storm could reach a strong G3 level by Saturday. That means grid operators might have to adjust the levels on their dials… It might also be harder to lock onto a GPS reading… Some planes that typically fly over Earth’s north polar region may be following different routes.
CBC, Sept. 10, 2014: The sun spot eruption caused a particularly strong solar flare… it registered as an X1, making it one of the biggest possible… CME can affect solar wind flow and “produce disturbances that strike the Earth with sometimes catastrophic results,” according to the [NASA] website.
Watch this week’s Fairewinds video on solar flares here
Published: September 12th, 2014 at 6:45 pm ET
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Pray for a near miss.. because the nuclear plants are not ready for loss of power for an extended period.
Fortunately, this is not going to knock out power for an extended period. This flare is an X1.6
The Carrington Event was something like an X40 and the scale is logarithmic (base 10): so an X4 is 10 times an X3 is 10 times an X2 is 10 times an X1. So an X4 is 1,000 times the X1.
There was an X28 in 2003.
The last twelve words on the report above made me laugh,I can hear the words confusing/befuddled getting prepped for the following days.
If it is not too much trouble, it may help to put electronics and/or laptop computers in a faraday cage while this storm lasts.. an aluminum bag for example.
In the Gunderson interview, the expert there says even a massive EMP pulse will have no effect on small electronics, just the large transformers, where the EMP pulse destroys them.
Ah, but that inital inductive surge can be massive right before all the system latches trip. Even 400 volts induced into your local grid would be the limit that any surge protector could handle.
A million volt induced surge would have bolts of electrons flying out from your wall sockets. It is possible…
Super Solar Storm To Hit Earth – 'Carrington Effect'; 400 Nuke Plants Will Melt Down/Explode, Lawsuits Needed; via @AGreenRoad
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/super-solar-storm-predicted-to-hit-2013.html
I know. The quick extinction that might spare us from going through a longer, more drawn out, horrendously painful extinction. NOT. PLEASE.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson (head of the NY Planetarium) once bemoaned in recent years that we have all the tech to build an asteroid deflection system, but just won't put out the resources to do it.
Not sure if the tech to do that and the tech to deflect or handle this, are quite the same thing at all. But how personal selfishness has drowned out collective well-being? That humanity seems quite well versed in. Why do anything that will protect EVERYBODY when people can continue to greedy-grab for themselves?
WNTF says – "But how personal selfishness has drowned out collective well-being?"
Well worded. Powerful, WNTF.
My estimate of what it would take to significantly harden the US grid against a large CME is around $2B, others say as low as $300M
This is the amount the gov hands to banksters in around 16 hours.
But we won't spend that much to protect against a mad max destruction of our country that is only a when, and not an if.
Insane hairless apes
Norther Lights tonight.
I explained this link between a carrington event and NPP's this morning at work. Five individuals were awakened to the logic of it.
They stood there speechless, not even blinking. I pointed them to the evidence and explained the meaning of a carrington event and referenced the 1859 event.
I also told them to ignore the comments and read the articles.
I have had great success lately in awakening with these terms…
Good work!
Jebus, you go! That's great. When it's explained clearly, the logic of such a catastrophe being possible, likely is absolutely sound.
For those of you who might be new here, if the grid were to go down, it might take up to TWO YEARS to restore it fully. It would depend upon the intensity of the geomagnetic storm caused by the CME impactin the earth. A Carrington event could cause enough of the grid to go down the nuclear plants might run out of diesel fuel to power generators. There would also be no fuel to power trucks, which would bring diesel fuel to nuclear plants. See this:
http://www.inquisitr.com/1472105/solar-storm-2014-could-a-carrington-event-fry-electronics-like-an-emp-from-a-nuclear-bomb/
If the grid failure lasted long enough in even one region or larger area where there are nuclear reactors or stored fuel/spent fuel needing cooling, reactors would melt down. And fuel pools could melt out, burn, explode, or who knows what for sure …. Imagine 400 reactors melting down. Plus all the stored nuclear fuel needing cooling. Plus the waste sites like Hanford, the reprocessing plants. Plus the experimental reactors, the medical reactors, the University reactors.
Methinks we'd have quite a mess on our hands. The conclusions one can draw re: such an event are inescapable. The end. Checkmate. OK, God go ahead and reset the earth to its factory settings. At least here in our part of the Universe, OK, please?
RE: A Carrington event, see this from Dr. Goodheart at A Green Road Blog:
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/11/every-nuclear-reactor-is-military.html#!
And this, from Stock:
http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/p/astronomy-and-carrington.html
Is the figure 400 commercial reactor plants exist, worldwide? The figure is much, much higher if the other reactors (and I forgot military and military research reactors) are included. Um, not sure if any university and/or research reactors aren't tied to the military, in some way.
Can one you, Stock, or Dr. G., please verify those statistics? Not sure how many other non-commercial reactors exist. Or where all the waste needling handling and cooling exists.
Yeah, a full Carrington event would be THE END. It would take an unimaginable miracle to stop runaway reactor meltdowns. It would just be horrific.
It's hard to wrap one's mind around this one. SHUT THEM ALL DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT THE PLUTONIUM STEW WHILE IT SIMMERS
Nuclear reactors = Plutonium factories = the stuff that makes nuclear warheads work
Also = depleted uranium and genocide, crimes against humanity
What an evil brew they have concocted. Every thing about it is loathsome and anti-life. Sorry, I'm on a rant. We as humanity have a HUGE hurdle to overcome, how to stop this technology and deal with the waste, massive amounts of poison, it and its keepers have created.
This event probably won't cause a collapse of the electrical grid. But someday there could be a flare strong enough in the right direction to do it. Reactors without electrical backup can cause meltdowns as has been seen, and diesel backup generators can only run for a short time. But even if somebody had sufficient backup equipment on hand for such an electrical grid event, it would take days or weeks to repair all the crucial failures. The reactors are just too vulnerable to geophysical events and dangerous – someday this self-conceited race of monkeys will pay a horrific price.
it is amazing that we have set ourselves up for disaster in so many ways. Insane hariless apes, who think they are the center of the universe, gosh golly
Another a single sentence that says it all. Old Fool says "- someday this self-conceited race of monkeys will pay a horrific price."
Our star is just getting warmed up…..This is but a couple of burps ..for now.
I wonder if this is the way all nuke death pumps will be turned off one day?
Love em if you got em
We have created a giant inductive transformer upon this planet.
The secondary windings are ready.
All that is needed is the primary pulse.
Nicolas Tesla is smiling somewhere in time…
Jebus, if you have my e-mail address at Hushmail (hush.com) would you please write me off-list? I have a question about the inductive transformer. My mind is going ????????????? on this one. I know there's some kind of wierd FLUX happening, but I can't put my finger on what it is. Actually, I'm wondering if we have created several inductive transformers operating on different wave frequencies. These are interacting in unexplained and poorly understood ways.
Please see AngelaR's comments about the magnetosphere here. I think somewhere in the threads below. (Before or after it gets all twisty.)
Funny thing, I have been unable to access http://www.spaceweather.com since this flare occurred. Any one else visit this site?
BRM,I visit this site everyday,have had no trouble with it.Its slow sometimes updating the sun.Hmmmm wonder why that is ?
Nope, wouldn't connect. Got this one though
http://spaceweathergallery.com/
“…SERVICE OUTAGE: On Sept. 12th, Spaceweather.com was offline for more than 12 hours during the most intense geomagnetic storm of the year. Ironically, the outage was not caused by solar activity. A catastrophic hardware failure in the network of our Internet service provider brought the web site down at the worst possible. Webmaster Dr. Tony Phillips apologizes to our readers, alert subscribers, and advertisers for the outage. We are taking steps to make sure this cannot happen again.
“SOLAR STORM UPDATE: The first of two CMEs expected to hit Earth's magnetic field on Sept. 12th arrived on schedule. Although the geomagnetic storm it provoked was technically only minor (G1-class), Northern Lights were observed as far south as Arizona. Chris Schur photographed the red glow of auroras peaking over the trees in the backyard of his home in Payson, AZ:…”
http://spaceweather.com/
Maybe the forces of nature (God) will take us out fore we do the job our own self hey. Vanne Comprendes Redneck espnlish?
Hey, how 'bout them irony beans. 🙂 Didn't see any northern lights 🙁 but did get a heckuva bounce off that G-1. Listened to AM stations in Wyoming, California, west and east Canada, Oregon, Utah, Idaho and some little all Spanish music ones in my state that are usually too small to get. 🙂
Was fun hearing all the varying news spins too.
Thanks for the update VV!
Vanne , I know I have taken alot of may rage out on you and I want to apologize. Just cause we disagree , don't mean i have to go to the gutter.. I ask for yore forgiveness. I still disagree
though:)
It wont happen again . I will refrain fromposting to your comments. Im sincere.
I give my word.
I haven't been able to track it on Space Weather either. Here are a couple of other links you may find helpful:
http://www.spacew.com/
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/spaceweather/
http://sidc.oma.be/index.php3
And of course the granddaddy of the disaster tracking information services, courtesy of an Enenewser:
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php
Jebus and others ,do you have links on Nicolas Tesla?
Thanks
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Nicolas+Tesla
Sorry for the name error. Common error.
It's Nikola Tesla
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Nikola+Tesla
The BEST information on Tesla, Marconi, J. P. Morgan, Edison, and car inventor H. Ford. A real EYE opener…
http://www.ebook3000.com/The-Fantastic-Inventions-of-Nikola-Tesla–The-Lost-Science-Series-_7948.html
"Will the Earth be impacted in the future?" A question asked Sir Arthur C. Clarke. His response was, "It is a certainty."
The tsunami that destroyed Japan up to 8 miles inland was deregulated to be theoretically impossible too folks, remember that…
As was Sir Clarke correct, so was Carl Sagan in his debunked by bullshit and mind game tactics; warning about the dire results of allowing Cs137 to form into Ba137 outside of containment in HUGE amounts like what is happening ongoing basically since 1959 Rocketdyne. On top of Cs dumping done by the Mob in many places globally, thrown into caves in rusty cans, and the "accidents" since then. The winds will begin to burn as the Ba137 needles begin to pick up in density from rarity in the air, and again blown back up into the air. An endless cycle of darkness, death and destruction despite the activity of the Sun.
Ok let us talk the electrostatic dynamics of said Ba137 in the atmosphere. It will ADD tremendous volumes of electrostatic energy in a strong wind, assisting weak Carrington effect to concentrate excited electron activity from high spin state ELEments exponentially. Food for thought folks, please don't shoot the messenger.
Click my name for more info.
The Tesla-Carrington Spike?….checked wind map and NETC and Texas is getting spiked for sure.
I don't believe it. Shennanigans .
lol… God @TheTweetOfGod did say tonight:
"I’m restoring the world to factory settings."
She can do that? Cool….um, how far back are we talking here?
Oh, yeah, baby! Give me that RESET! Praise the Lord for that reset button! Hallelujah and amen. Tabula rasa. Clean slate.
"I can only imagine"
Set me up with the Spirit in the Sky.
It was perfect. In the beginning. (When time began and the factory got its original settings.)
Love it! A good thing to think about, yes? We can go there. I believe it. Despite this time and place, in time and space.
Happy Saturday people. Or Sunday, depending on where you are ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWExueaMgaQ
Keepin' it positive.
"If you get down and you quarrel every day ….
Why not help one another on the way
Make it much easier, just a little bit easier
Say, you just can't live that negative way."
Hoping you're blessed, Bob Marley, wherever you are.
This is very heart-felt for me. Very personal.
We all need to love one another. To the end. I include mysaelf in that.
I mean, I need to be loving to others …. much to be done to grow up.
Obvious, LastChants, I like you. You're genuine and I appreciate the encouraging things you say.
Obvious and Last Chants, this is for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju3Absdz3Hg&list=PL53CCB16784B401D3&index=2
It's the second song, "Shifting Sand."
I want to be rock solid. Can't do it on my own. No one can.
Oh, and this one, too, so beautiful. This is my heart, and for me it needs to stay real. It's a struggle. I do like you both and I feel like I know you both, somehow. Sometimes I wish some of the Newsers could have a get together picnic.
It would have to be a political non-event and just a picnic. Since we all have so many political things to deal with that wouldn't be easy. One can only hope.
There are at least three of us in my city. We have yet to meet in person but I am hopeful.
Hey HT…thanks for the songs and good feelings! 🙂 We'd have a great picnic or just have have fun talking as neighbors, wouldn't we. Just got some Marley songs floating around in my head right now…
How NASA photographs the sun…BS
http://www.nationaljournal.com/pictures-video/how-nasa-photographs-the-sun-20140508
This is preceding some stuff about NASA, I'm gonna post.
ISS , FAKE,
That's the Intenational Space Station, which is costing millions… (to fake)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgt3V-2xPFU
Are you really that ignorant sadiedog?
Well, Jebus you can fuck yourself with that question.
Ah, I see that's a yes then…
It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant of the facts that a human can be.
I still luv you though, honey…
What facts, dear? I will debate you. But I fear you mind is not open enough.
I will debate
Im clear headed tonight stiil cant type good though
What is the topic ? Isil/is/isis?
. I got this one down …Pat
LOL!
2:00 to reply, so you didn't watch the accompanying video. I don't like you. Please go away.
So, does that mean you don't like me?
I love you…
I just wrote The Prez, yea, i do that alot, and I still aight locked up :),anyway, I told him we need a new strategy to fight 4th gen war fare ( research William S lind).
Short story long. watch Marlon Brando 's excellent soliloquy in Apocalypse now. Where he is preaching to the assassin that was sent to kill him
LOLROF!
Ya really better ask somebody jebus
Naw, I just use what I was given. A brain…
Your brain is only as valuable as what you put in it…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQAzpV7GC0U
Girl, you sure proved that…
Do ya really, RockWell? I think ISIS is a black ops code name. Pls. see below.
Just for grins and giggles, then, and a little reality twerkin':
http://www.dogpile.com/search/web?fcoid=417&fcop=topnav&fpid=27&q=isis+goddess&ql=
"Isis, Egyptian Goddess of Magic and Giver of Life
Isis, the Egyptian goddess of rebirth remains one of the most familiar images of empowered and utter femininity. The goddess Isis was the first daughter of Geb, god of the Earth, and Nut, the goddess of the Overarching Sky. Isis was born on the first day between the first years of creation, and was adored by her human followers.
Unlike the other Egyptian goddesses, the goddess Isis spent time among her people, teaching women how to grind corn and make bread, spin flax and weave cloth, and how to tame men enough to live with them (an art form on which many of us would welcome a refresher course!)
Isis taught her people the skills of reading and agriculture and was worshipped as the goddess of medicine and wisdom."
I don't know if I trust that Nut Goddess of the Overarching Sky. Gotta be careful of that ol' girl.
And Sadie Dog, don't take my comment to Rockwell personally, OK? It's just humor. Actually respect who Isis represented, even tho' this has nothing to do with my spiritual practice or belief.
Sometimes we need to divert or deflect when it gets too hot in the kitchen.
I just find you interesting, your mind quirky and unusual. So I thought I'd throw one back to you and Rockwell in kind.
Kinda like a debate, in a humorous way. Wanna play?
Be aware: the Nut Goddess of the Overarching Sky was an actual Egyptian diety. See the link for ISIS on the Dogpile search above.
Realized after posting ISS refers to the Space Station. Rockwell was joking about IS, ISS, ISIS. So that was just a spin and a joke (the Dogpile link).
Just givin' Rockwell a little joke-poke.
Jebus,Did you watch either of the ISS videos?
Yes I did and there is no debate. That is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on ENEnews. I have been reading here for a bit and there have been some doozies.
If you believe that crap, there is no hope for logic in a debate…
Ok. I understand your anger. The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off… I can see that you still believe what the TV tells you. Sorry. 🙁
lol, you used the anger not me.
Did I say, go fuck yourself?
How old are you SadieDog?
Ugh. I'm not doin this. If you don't like it, move on.
You can't do this. It has no merit…
Mod says irrelevant comment age factor bears no merit
Point was to determine if she was even alive in '69…
Know your opponent in every debate…
I have been extremly interested in all things, off this world, since '65.
I think it is just awesome that they are testing new HD cameras on ISS.
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#.VBPECaNOliI
Of course, it's all done with big blue marble in a studio somewhere in New Jersey… 🙂
Ok valid point. Nicer ways of askink it though .Sounded like a put down the way you put it . I turned 60 this month
Yo know Im very good at communication and expressing ones feelings in an appropriate manner 🙂 not. Ill be youre coach.
Jebus, you said you didn't wanna debate, so shut the fuck up.
Dick!
Sally? You so angry… 🙂
Yes, willfully being an ignorant ass pisses me off. Go watch tv Jebus. Goodnite.
Ya know, they always get angry when you disrupt their disruption… 🙂
Here's something that didn't happen.
Or did it?
I wonder if those batteries were thermal?
Russia: Satellite Did Not Explode Over U.S.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/09/12/russia-refutes-satellite-exploded-over-us-despite-us-military-confirmation
Note the trajectory, Texas…
jebus and Rockwell, your behavior here is totally out of line. If you ever had any credibility before, you have none now. All you have done is prove how disgusting you are and should be banned from this site, ASSHOLES! You are disrupting this site with the garbage you spew.
Jebus, re: the alive in 69 thing, my interpretation was always that particular scene was pure satire. At least in the beginning.
Unless maybe you're an MK Ultra case or something.
Sadie Dog, can I please help you out? Can we talk? You're very smart, savvy, and aware of a lot of what's going on. You can read between the lines and connect most of the dots. (We're all dot connectors in progress.)
You're also easily offended. If you didn't verbally bite us, we'd be givin' you a lot of praise for your insight. Honestly.
I've a feeling you want validation for those good insightful posts you often make. You make it very hard for those who recognize you're bright and quick, whom you've bitten, to give that validation.
Shill? No. I just think you need to work on your social interaction here a little bit. Unless you just LOVE to go off on people. ("I can do this, it's safe here in cyberspace. No one can FIND me," she thought to herself.) Do people with tacit aggression on the Web think about things like this? (I picture a female Woody Allen character.)
You really need to find a more appropriate manner in which to express yourself. Arrrf! My dear, I like a lot of the things you say. You'd get a lot of cooperation & validation if you'd just be nice. Or at least neutral. Just stuff a sock in it when you want to bite someone or dump merde on their head.
Sometimes we just CAN'T say or do what we want to online. If we do, it invariably turns into (I've been there, OK?) GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!! Somebody bites, anger gets unleashed. It just ain't worth it, girl.
Honestly I laughed when you posted this comment to me:
I laughed when you posted this to insult me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGXx56WqqJw
It IS funny. Did you want to make me laugh? (It's one of my favorite movie scenes.)
"What a strange person. Why here, my good man!"
Some fights are just not worth it. Most aren't actually. Not with other people.
HoTaters to Sadie-Baiter
G'nite and peace, out.
Sadie Dog, it would be fun to reason with you, but there needs to be discussion. That would be two way discussion with good intention and w/o presuming, "someone's inevitably going to offend me."
Like do unto others before they do unto you? We're not out to hurt you here.
You claim to have watched the video jebus, and you and Rockwell have trashed sadiedog, now since you are the know it all, explain why NASA has never been back to the moon, with people walking on the moon. This should prove to be interesting if not hilarious. Here's your chance smart ass.
Wow, here we go again. Just like last week (when I took a time out), I guess. Can see the misunderstandings beginning to happen.
Warning! Warning! Retreat from Flame War Zone immediately! I can hear the grenade whizzing through the air at some target.
This must be a very important article, or this wouldn't be happening. In the absence of AtomsforPeace1, and the Tennesee Valley folks, we have Sadie Dog and itsanuclearwar?
Hope I'm misinterpreting your intentions because you guys are beginning to go down that road. Or you're making it look like you're deliberately derailing the thread.
Or else you're just really immature people who aren't very in control of their propensity toward losing self control and making angry comments. Borrowing the offenses of others and jumping in to stir the pot. Hmmn. That's the appearance given, anyway.
Or is this Sadie the Instigator-Baiter, and itsanuclearwar throwing the red herring into the discussion?
Sheesh, where are you guys going with this? Maybe we better try to find a Forum to rant on so we don't alienate the supporting members.
HoTaters, but perhaps SadieDog is correct:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqtBUXd2bU
AngelaR, I wasn't even making any reference at ALL to Sadie Dog's comment about the moon landings. I've seen some pretty fake-o looking pictures where the sun is at the wrong angle in reference to the angle of shadows of objects.
I actually made a post and said I think the ISS vids may have been recorded in a studio somewhere (not inside the Space Station).
Comment to Sadie Dog was in reference to her having flamed me (for no apparent??? at least to me) reason a couple of months ago. She called me some nasty names, told me where to get off, then posted the "I diss you now bitch" Monty Python video link. She basically said she wanted to dump truckloads of merde and general excrement on me.
I just don't get too emotional over most things people say here. There are a lot of unfounded attacks made here. Some of them are against people of my faith, which many loathe. The policy of no religious comments and personal attacks is routinely violated. It's just better not to throw the bucket back in someone's face when they taunt you.
It's harder to do when someone doesn't know you and assumes that just because you profess faith in some entity, you're like X _ _ _ _ type of nut job, and people of your faith did X,Y, Z atrocity, etc., etc.
That kind of stuff just isn't needed. NO ONE on this earth is perfect, and just getting along is a big job.
I just waited a couple of months before telling Sadie Dog she lacks restraint. I needed not to react from my…
The thread is so jumbled up it's hard to tell who was talking to whom.
I was jiving Jebus and Rockwell. The comments to Sadie Dog had her name in them.
This thread for this article is another disaster. It has run amock, and so have several of us.
I'm guilty of making WAAAAAY too many OT comments here tonight. Need to figure out hot to take it to the non-nuke Forum so it doesn't derail the thread.
My point is: if someone doesn't agree with you, is it more appropriate, as an adult, to respond with a question to make sure you understand the other person? Or to tell them they're whatever (fill in the blank) and to F + off or they're a piece of excrement, and that you figuratively want to dump truckloads of excrement on them?
At least I could laugh after I got over my jaw dropping in disbelief.
After all, Sadie Dog posted a link to one of my all-time favorite Monty Python gags.
Sadie Dog, I love you in your unique and beautiful quirkiness. OK? And you can still insult me. So if that's what you want to do, you go ahead girl. I hope I can laugh in response w. no offense taken.
This is really getting personal in some regards, and I don't want to have beefs with anyone here.
My mistake Ho, such a comment would have been very hurtful.
However, the thread does wander. 'The walk on the moon' was, as I understood, another point of contention between Jebus and SadieDog.
Take care.
@HO, do you actually believe the shit you say? At least you are consistent, as in full of shit. "THEY LIVE" "THEY LIVE"
"THEY LIVE" "THEY LIVE"
Jebus, in advance of the long and irrelevant thread, just want to tell you, you crack me up.
In advance, sort of. Ha. Love where pieces of these threads get put sometimes. OK, sorry I'm OT folks.
That's the spirit!
(Remember who the enemy is)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhzjx8TsuQk
She is cute!
Ha! 🙂
Hi Sadie – repost – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5iilg7CP7Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
An old post from 'tooktheredpill' – he was an SFX guy in LA
We're surrounded by green walls..
Oh and this.. reason why we haven't been back? Cuz we got BORED that's why !! 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ZSHWTB-G4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Wow, bo, that was amazing. Kinda dark there with the poor guy on the couch (ouch).
The overlay and the artist's ability to do the industrial-type visual rendering was astonishing. Brilliant. That's the best animation I've seen in years (but I'm no expert).
The music was great too. Sounded a little bit like the Doors.
Sadie Dog, this is mind control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCcO7ih4r4
If it behaves for you like it did the two times I watched it, you'll get the PayPal Economy commercial. THAT is a real life example of mind control techniques being applied overtly and subliminally. It's supposed to be illegal to embed subliminal messages in advertising.
But?
We(and me) are so off topic tonight. We're all pretty spacey IMO tonight. What's out there in the ether? I wonder if CME activity affects people & makes them spacey?
@SadieDog, you may very well be right. Having watched most of the video it does appear that much if not all was faked. A bad job of fakery at that. I don't think that jebus nor rockewell viewed the videos as claimed. I do believe that their attack on you is total bullshit and you are right, they are dicks and should just go away. obviously THEY ARE NOT HERE IN GOOD FAITH. Probably did what they did to get you to leave this site in an effort to drive away members seeking the truth.
Sadie Dog, re: the ISS (?) video I looked at, yeah, it definitely looked like they filmed it in a movie set. The California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco (Golden Gate Park) used to have an exhibit on the theory of evolution. The sets were so perfectly painted it really took the eyes awhile to adjust to it not being a real setting. (One had to move up close inside the room.)
The video I watched looked like two nerdy scientists sitting in front of a photograph of the cockpit of the ISS. Just my perception. Maybe it was the way the woman's arm draped around the back of the guy, but nothing was there to hold her arm up. She obviously didn't hold her arm in that position behind him (in one place) for the entirety of the program, w/o a break.
The minimum distance from the Earth to Mars is about 54.6 million kilometers. The farthest apart they can be is about 401 million km. The average distance is about 225 million km.
And you want me to believe that NASA is playing with a remote control car from Earth? Otay.
And, for the record… I absolutely, positively, 100%, do NOT believe that any man has ever walked on the moon.
Just to be clear.
Technology doesnt stop or go in reverse. When the car was invented, it didn't stick around for 10 years and go away. The sewing machine, the airplane, the telephone, the computer, the cell phone… Think about it. Kennedy said we would go and in a few years, it happened? Ther is more computing power in your cell phone than in anything NASA had in the 60's. And, they all made it back. Once again, otay!
Ignorance is bliss…
Thank you. I was afraid to be the only one on earth to disbelieve absolutely that any man has ever walked on the Moon, only on Nevada desert.
Lie is the first step to manipulation.
Manipulation is the first step towards dictature.
Let's be careful about what we take for sure.
If any one has ever done any research on the subject they would know that no one ever walked on the moon. NASA is a total fraud.
How convenient for NASA that they seem to have lost all of the technical details that was supposed to have been used for the flights to the moon and back.
What say you Jebus? Or Jesus or whatever?
If Duke Energy is taking this seriously, then it's obviously to be taken seriously. I'm rather surprised to hear someone from Duke acknowledged any potential threat. Hmmn.
Beer walk. Isay beer walk,cause I dont drive after I had had a few ,or a few 2 many. My worksman bike got a front flat 🙁
Ill be back.
Sadie, I don't want to intrude/step in your discussion with Jebus but I do want to raise a point of order: Using the expression"For the record…",is rather old school. In these days of the NSA, wouldn't it be more proper to say "For the RECORDING"?
Double Ha!! Ha!!!
🙂
Ive have always assumed that was true since the days of Fidonet
Ya know ,the good ol days ,fore they lrt the AOL peple out loose on the net.
🙂 just trying to stir up shit:)
How Do We Know the Moon Landing Isn't Fake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHt842u_Yw4
🙂
This, from an acquaintance of mine. This was his response to another commenter on a blog unrelated to enenews, while they were discussing "oddities:"
"Interesting. I know someone that worked at (N[en], A[ay], S[ess], A[ay]). He helped fake the moon landings. Nobody, no matter how smart, has ever been able to fit into the Lunar Landing Module all of the fuel required for deceleration from orbital velocity, descent, a soft landing, acceleration, and ascent back to orbital velocity."
Anybody?
You do know bananas are radioactive beyond belief.
There is about eighty percent less gravity on the Moon as on the Earth.
83.3% less to be exact.
They left over half the mass on the Moon as they landed with.
They mostly just floated down, minimal decell thrust.
Just the facts man…
So carrying out that fact, if my lunar module weighed 10,000 lbs on Earth, it would only weigh 1,700 lbs on the Moon.
If I left half of that 10,000 lbs on the Moon, I only had to lift 850 lbs from the surface of the Moon.
Once I got up a ways from the Moon, I am basically weightless.
I only have mass to push back to Earth.
Make sense?
If we made it to the moon 40 years ago then why are there no casinos built up there?
Where are the casinos?
They're on the dark side…
Why hasn't anyone been back? And why won't anyone be back in your lifetime? Because we don't have the capability or technology. But in the 60's? Thank you, no.
It's not profitable, thats why…
Again I ask how old are you SadieDog.
Seems you still have no clue.
It's okay to be wrong.
Happens all the time with people who have no clue about technology.
Who told you that? NASA?
I watched it happen. I have researched the details.
I have learned about it since I was six years old.
A bit before youtube…
You watched it happen on T.V.
Actually SadieDog and Jebus, this is what I also watched. From the horse's mouth…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqtBUXd2bU
The details given to you by the govt and NASA…
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?
You tell me.
I just did…
Wanna do it again?
So as not to become one of those people that blah, blah, blah… I'm out. 😉
Too late…
I love yutoob. I think it is a wonderful resource.
Obviously, you fit it well…
jebus you know nothing about the alleged trip to the moon, or you are a total fraud, probably both. You are full of shit and should be banned. I would like to see some poetic justice fall into your lap.
You'll get over it, itsy.
Meanwhile, here's some more education for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys3MsKMpms
Any questions?
Jebus, I believe every American should watch the US 'walk on the moon'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqtBUXd2bU,
that is Part 3,
Part 4 is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHsNyzKGPxk
Angela, I only hope that forty years from now that the world will sufficiently wake up so that some ignorant idiots do not get on a blog somewhere and say with perceived conviction that Fukushima never happened.
That will be the day of mankind's full submission to complete ignorance…
Actually Jebus, in the video, Donald Rumsfeld and a number of others say that the moon walk was done in a studio. What horrifies me is that people lied and people were killed to preserve the lie.
*sigh* *face palm* I only hope…
I got it!
Maybe it is a conspiracy that's tricking you into believing it's a conspiracy that's tricking you into believing that man walked on the moon…
Well Jebus, Part 6 exposes it as a mock up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTt7NwuF-fQ
but why would government people lend themselves to this?
Your too easy…
They have built mock ups on the Earth of every mission that they have sent into space.
Logic dictates that you do that when sending someone into space because triple a is not available there to help you. Dominoes does not deliver there too…
Let's say a nuclear health physicist and an oceanographer were in a capsule about a million miles away towards the moon. All of a sudden the toilet drain starts leaking into the capsule. The oceanographer looks at his comrade and says, "do you know how to fix that gizmo? The health physicist radio's back to houston. "houston, I think we have a problem. The thingamagig on the dooliewhopper is leaking."
What would be the best tool at your disposal, on Earth, to help show exactly, the two "experts" in their field of study, in space, a million miles away, how to fix that?
You see, all the effort and resources that go/went into a mission like that, or any exploration of space, or any "mission", are only wasted, if the mission fails…
Didn't good ol uncle Sam plop a big ol honking flag up there on that spinning rock? Have there been any pictures of that status symbol since? Just asking cause surely that space station should be able to see it at some point. Anybody?
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https://www.google.com/search?q=flag+on+the+moon+from+orbiter&biw=1076&bih=615&tbm=isch&imgil=7FzC9qKTiqkHkM%253A%253BwT910NyhUIw5wM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%25252Fnews%25252Fworld%25252Fus-flags-still-on-the-moon-except-one%25252Fstory-e6frg6so-1226439125870&source=iu&pf=m&fir=7FzC9qKTiqkHkM%253A%252CwT910NyhUIw5wM%252C_&usg=__mf9avSY0zDYQXVBvUKWDjJNze_0%3D
Thanks Jebus. I was hoping for something a little more definitive. Seen most of those. I grew up wanting.g to be an astronaut and travel the stars. Spent most of my youth gazing.g at the cosmos. Used to be able to see the arms of the milkyway from my backyard as a child. I always loved earth and realized this is where I want to be. I can visit the cosmos anytime without societies authority.
I believed as a child but persistent lies by adults(governments,science,education) led me to think otherwise. I could never choose one way or the other so I let it go because no one is ever going to live on the moon. So I continue to let it go.
But thank you for another lively debate…it is how things get figured out.
When I look up at the Moon in the sky, that's… no wait, I see a stark reminder of the rest of our planetay neighbor's sufficient differences to make Earth a special place indeed…
I'm married to someone who doesn't believe we went to the moon. For me, the jury is out. But it does seem extremely suspicious NASA lost the original video of the first moon landing, and so many of the light sources and shadows were in the wrong places in the pics ….
It looks phoney baloney to me, but I'm just not sure.
Hi Taters – watch this @1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RDqQTy0To0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
'One giant leap for… oops take 2'
Of course, the vid itself could be a hoax.
Some scoff at this line of thinking and claim it could discredit the anti-nuclear movement – but when you consider the fact how one is shown phoney baloney images such as inside of unit 4 on the news, or Caroline Kennedy's visit to Daiichi ( did that really happen on site, with her tyvek suit exposing her neck ?) .. I think it's a legitimate & and important practice to be turning over every stone, and to be questioning everything on a site dedicated to discussions on fukushima.
400,000 people are a great deal of people..to fool. These guys are much better than I thought. 🙂
Ya, things have advanced a bit since the first act…
Obewan
The force is with them.
400,000 thousand are easy to fool.
Think about it. Hitler fooled a nation as did Stalin, Mao,
Not to mention…. You can pick'n'mix as you like. How about Billy Graham?
Or Jimmy Saville?
The NSA only watch this site for a giggle. Their too busy tracking those terrorist nuns that infultrate atomic power stations.
They had a big data issue in New zealand a few days back. All the young people went into clinical depression because their mobile life force was offline. Some even were diagnosed with the rare syndrome known as candy crushitis.
Anyone got a spare Edison phonograph, so I can listen those Blondie 78s?
Check out ISS transiting the sun.
This guy is in on it too…
Space Station Crosses the Sun in Amazing Photo
http://www.space.com/22940-space-station-crosses-sun-photo.html
From his backyard, right?
400,001…
Those copycats. They won't let a good ruse go to waste.
An Amazing Photo of China's Space Station Crossing the Sun
http://gizmodo.com/an-amazing-photo-of-chinas-space-station-crossing-the-582855398
What is it now, 400,001 + 1.3 billion?
@ OldFool
September 12, 2014 at 8:01 pm
Indeed! Action and reaction are equal and opposite! The nuclear effect in causing earthquakes by dams: Hundreds of MILLIONS of kilometers of water pressure head change in an instant appearing from instant to instant at the centre of gravity of the world's dams now at 25.9, 113.42(varies from instant to instant but usually not by enormous amounts)will cause a hit to the sun situated at 149,600,000 km distance from the earth. Surge waves to the Sun, man-made natural end! See and therefrom induce the plausibility at
http://earthquakescausedbydams.blogspot.in/2014/09/worldwide-earthquakes-are-caused-by.html
What a mess modern civilization has made of life!
Forests built over millennia in a normal civilization is the answer!
See Reforest Mother Earth to Live! at
http://practicethevedas.blogspot.in/2008/05/reforest-mother-earth-to-live.html
For wilful men the injuries they themselves procure are their best schoolmasters.
Behind every fortune there is a crime.
From food creatures become;
Food comes from rain not dams, the slaves of gravity!
Rain from practicing return via living beings including the forests;
Return from action; action from the all embracing integrality;
And the all embracer from the One, Unknowable!
Those who violate this wheel of life
Are 'living' for themselves and will be destroyed.
And after 4.32 billion years of the night of Brahma,
Life will spring up again and this cycle is timeless. endless!
Youtube is a wonderfull resource…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
The international space station is visable as it passes over so what's the big mystery?
Go out at night and view it.
Go to a nearby college and use a telescope to view in detail.
Could this debate be meant to disrupt the focus of those who oppose nukes based upon real science that they're deadly by bringing up the space program is BS nonsense?
Is perhaps the fact that the author of that utube is a con man with a record
any reflection upon his credibility?
People are so easily persuaded and deceived and that is precisely why we're in the dilemma we're currently in.
Divide and conquor or if not conquor at least to divert.
I must admit to having rather enjoyed viewing the utube in question though.
What a hoot!
"Could this debate be meant to disrupt the focus of those who oppose nukes based upon real science that they're deadly by bringing up the space program is BS nonsense?"
"People are so easily persuaded and deceived and that is precisely why we're in the dilemma we're currently in."
TY, Exactly why I challenge the notion that the facts of the matter, are not…
How they gonna do that if it's not there?
SpaceX to carry first 3-D printer to ISS
Hawthorne-based SpaceX will soon carry the first 3-D printer to the International Space Station (ISS) to enable astronauts to print replacement parts during long-distance missions in the future.
American space agency NASA's 3-D printing project manager Niki Werkheiser said the first 3-D printer would be sent to space next week, adding that it could revolutionize the existing constrained supply chain model.
http://newsmaine.net/20632-spacex-carry-first-3-d-printer-iss
Maybe they won't have to do mock up's for the "experts" anymore.
They can just print a new gizmo, from Earth, and have Robonaut install it…
http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/
🙂
The Great Moon Hoax
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast23feb_2/
Fox TV and the Apollo Moon Hoax
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
Lunar Sample Laboratory Facility
http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/lun-fac.cfm
Apollo Imagery
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo11/html/s69_40308.html