Gov’t Experts: It was Reactor 2 explosion that released plutonium from Fukushima plant; Highest levels found over 20 km away — ABC Radio: Professor on TV said “32 grams of plutonium could be ingested with food without danger of death” (AUDIO)

Published: February 9th, 2014 at 3:29 pm ET
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IRSN (France) — Initial analyses of the accident and its consequences (pdf): [E]stimates of the radioactivity released for [plutonium and other transuranium elements] remain rough due to the lack of a sufficient body of measurements and information on the actual condition of the damaged reactors. […] Their presence in the environment due to the accident has not been easy to detect […] neptunium-239 […] in the village of Iitate proves without doubt that transuranium radionuclides were released by the Fukushima accident. This is also confirmed by the interpretation of certain results of plutonium measurements taken in the soils northwest of the Fukushima Dai-ichi site […] all these values were obtained at points located within the main fallout zone extending to the northwest makes it possible to attribute this plutonium to releases from reactor 2 after its containment was damaged by the hydrogen explosion on March 15 […] The highest values for 238Pu were measured more than 20 km from the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant, at points 3 and 4 northwest of Namie and south of Iitate.

ABC (Australia), Jan. 29, 2014 (at 16:00 in): A TV appearance by Professor Narabayashia member of the Nuclear Safety Commission did nothing to help dispel our doubts either. He said that up to 32 grams of plutonium could be ingested with food without danger of death. If breathed plutonium was only deadly from 10 mg upwards. Independent scientists assume that even 1/1,000,000 of a gram can trigger lung cancer.

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Published: February 9th, 2014 at 3:29 pm ET
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156 comments to Gov’t Experts: It was Reactor 2 explosion that released plutonium from Fukushima plant; Highest levels found over 20 km away — ABC Radio: Professor on TV said “32 grams of plutonium could be ingested with food without danger of death” (AUDIO)

  • charlie3

    I would like Professor Narabayashia member of the Nuclear Safety Commission to eat a gram of plutonium for us as a demonstration of its safety.

    • lovE lovE

      I second this motion.

    • bo bo

      From Dr. Goodheart :

      2 grams of cesium is enough to contaminate about a square mile; that is the size of dime. Plutonium is much worse.Cut the dime into 100 pieces. One of those pieces is enough to contaminate a small town. Grind it up into dust, and take a couple of pieces of those pieces of dust.. Blow that into the house, and it is enough to contaminate it.If any normal person does this, wouldn't this be called a terrorist act, a murder attempt or both?But when the nuclear industry does this with a couple thousand TONS of plutonium, cesium, and 1200 other goodies, and that gets spread out over the whole world, what happens?

      Thanks doctor, I have this saved.

      • Max1 Max1

        Bo,
        Correct, if a terrorist group did his the USA would be militaristic all over their asses… but seeing that what we're discussing is a State sanctioned activity… it's never an act of terrorism when the State endorses it.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Association of ATP-Binding Cassette, Sub-family C, Number 2 (ABCC2) Genotype with Pharmacokinetics of Irinotecan in Japanese Patients with Metastatic Colorectal Cancer Treated with Irinotecan Plus Infusional 5-Fluorouracil/Leucovorin (FOLFIRI)

      Ken-ichi FUJITAa, b, Fumio NAGASHIMAa, b, Wataru YAMAMOTOa, Hisashi ENDOa, Yu SUNAKAWAa, Keishi YAMASHITAa, Hiroo ISHIDAa, Keiko MIZUNOa, Mototsugu MATSUNAGAa, Kazuhiro ARAKIa, Ryuhei TANAKAa, Wataru ICHIKAWAa, Toshimichi MIYAa, Masaru NARABAYASHIa, Yuko AKIYAMAa, b, Kaori KAWARAa, Yuichi ANDOa, Yasutsuna SASAKIa, b
      aDepartment of Medical Oncology Saitama International Medical Center-Comprehensive Cancer Center Saitama Medical University, bProject Research Laboratory Research Center for Genomic Medicine Saitama Medical University
      Biological & Pharmaceutical Bulletin 31(11): 2137 -2142 2008

      http://mol.medicalonline.jp/archive/search?jo=cs7biolo&vo=31&issue=11

      If this is the same Dr. Narabayashia, he knows full well the dangers of even the slightest trace of plutonium. He'll be treating radiation exposure patients until he drops.

      Maybe he needed to make an extra mortgage payment . . . You sure don't trash your career for less than major yen. Can you imagine his colleagues laughing their asses off at what he said? He's finished as far as ever having any study paper he's involved with peer reviewed.

    • Make sure it is in the form of nano dust, like what comes out of a reactor when it melts down and explodes.

    • bo bo

      Thank you, plutonium, for being you.
      Because of you, cesium, tritium, and even strontium and uranium don't have to feel so bad about themselves anymore.

    • utahruss utahruss

      Yes and on LIVE TELEVISION-Heck 1 gram that is not even an appetizer.

      Maybe he could appear with the professor from Berkley that compared drinking a glass of groundwater from the Fukushima site to eating a banana.

      Hey how about a new TV cooking show-instead of Iron Chef how about Plutonium Chefs or Cooking with Radioactivity hosted by me RADIOACTIVE RUSS!

    • utahruss utahruss

      Hey its only an Alpha Emitter-whats the big deal?

      However, another component of alpha radiation is the recoil of the parent nucleus, termed alpha recoil. Due to the conservation of momentum requiring the parent nucleus to recoil, the effect acts much like the 'kick' of a rifle butt when a bullet goes in the opposite direction. This gives a significant amount of energy to the recoiling nucleus, which also causes ionization damage (see ionizing radiation). The total energy of the recoil nucleus is readily calculable, and is roughly the weight of the alpha (4 u) divided by the weight of the parent (typically about 200 u) times the total energy of the alpha. By some estimates, this might account for most of the internal radiation damage, as the recoil nuclei are typically heavy metals which preferentially collect on the chromosomes.

      In some studies,[5] this has resulted in a RBE approaching 1,000 instead of the value used in governmental regulations.

      http://fukushimatruths.freeforums.net/thread/693/radiation-research-report-radioactive-russ
      http://fukushimatruths.freeforums.net/thread/645/specifics-on-plutonium

  • yogda yogda

    Professor on TV said “32 grams of plutonium could be ingested with food without danger of death”

    THIS IS INSANITY THESE SHILLS MUST BE PROSECUTED FOR LYING TO THE IGNORANT MASSES.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      yogda…so I guess we just have to make sure to call the hazmat team in to remove the toilet after the 32 gram plutonium bowel movement.

      I agree with everyone who said the professor should eat the plutonium…

      Let him eat Yellow Cake >:-(

    • There's little time to dump all our resources into the legal system…

      We need to realize we must wage war with the killers…
      It's probably too late but it will look good on our tombstones…
      so to speak…

      We must stop the killers!
      We already know what we need to know!

  • Paulie777

    I third the motion. Please show the little people what you say is true professor.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Oh really?

    "This is also confirmed by the interpretation of certain results"

    "makes it possible to attribute this plutonium to releases from reactor 2"

    coughbullshitcough!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haUawwm7l4k

    Fail, try again…

  • dka

    If I would be rich enough I would sue to guy.

  • Jack Jack

    Japanese cartoon government said, "Smiling people don't get radiation sickness." Kitiban, the TEPCO cartoon mascot said, "Radiation sparkles on happy children." Narabayashia said you can safely inhale up to 10mg of plutonium. They're all in the same league. Disgusting.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Overview of Plutonium and Its Health Effects

    The DOE standard for the occupational air concentration of plutonium is 32 trillionths of a gram per cubic meter (approximately 5 rem/year).

    The Nuclear Regulatory Commission set the most current radiation dose limit at 5 rem/year for occupational exposures (the same as the DOE) and 0.1 rem/year for the public.

    http://www.clarku.edu/departments/marsh/projects/community/plutonium.pdf

    • We Not They Finally

      I guess that the professor quoted above just mixed up 32 trillionths of one gram with 32 whole grams. "Innocent mistake," yes?

      • Jebus Jebus

        If 32 trillionths of a gram per cubic meter = 5 rem a year for industry workers.

        What does 0.1 rem per year equal, in fractions of a gram per cubic meter, for Jill and John public?

      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        You're not taking into account the absorption difference between inhalation and ingestion. Ingestion is higher, but the Professor is still dead wrong if as little as 200 micrograms absorbed by the digestive system at 0.04% is enough to cause cancer.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        One is exposure through air pathway, the other through food pathway. The body can deal with eating radioactive particles better than it can deal with breathing them in. We will expel more in the feces, if it is a one-off exposure (not chronic) but small particles in the lung can cross the lung-blood barrier and circulate throughout the body for one's entire lifetime, concentrating in organs that need iron. The body interprets plutonium as iron, just as it interprets strontium90 as calcium, and ceasium as potassium.

  • Jebus Jebus

    A TRUE MEASURE OF EXPOSURE(?)

    The human tissue analysis program at Los Alamos

    http://library.lanl.gov/cgi-bin/getfile?23-11.pdf

  • We Not They Finally

    If reactor 2 released this much plutonium, then what did reactor 3's MOX fuel (plutonium and uranium mixed) do when it blew sky-high? O.k. We know that the majority of people reporting on this in the MSM are ethically challenged. But is everyone that STUPID?

  • Jebus Jebus

    So basically what we are getting now is the partial truth.

    drip, lie, drip…

    The truth is, Fukushima plutonium is everywhere, no matter from which reactor. (was #2 running MOX?)

    The lie is, that 32 grams of ingested plutonium dioxide is OK…

    👿

  • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

    Professor Narabayashia makes no sense, even when viewed through the presumably pro-nuke mainstream "research", 32 grams of plutonium would still give you cancer when your body absorbed at least 12,800 micrograms.

    Here goes:

    "Plutonium is not absorbed into the body efficiently when ingested; only 0.04% of plutonium oxide is absorbed after ingestion.[32]"

    (wikipedia citing Emsley, John (2001). "Plutonium". Nature's Building Blocks: An A–Z Guide to the Elements. Oxford (UK): Oxford University Press. pp. 324–329. ISBN 0-19-850340-7.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium#Toxicity

    So 32 grams times 0.0004 is about 12.8 milligrams or 12,800 micrograms that would be absorbed by your body.

    "Cohen's own estimate [refuting Nader's lesser amount] is that a dose of 200 micrograms would likely be necessary to cause cancer." Id.

    12,800 micrograms absorbed is 64 times the 200 micrograms needed to cause cancer.

    If Plutonium was safe, the navy wouldn't insist on "supergrade" for use in close proximity with humans (longer half-life of higher concentration P-239 means fewer decays.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium-239#Supergrade_plutonium

    • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

      If the Professor ate only one gram, he would still absorb 400 micrograms, twice the cancer causing amount, according to the MSM research.

    • Jebus Jebus

      Common sense reveals that most of 32 grams of plutonium will pass right through your system with body waste.

      Common knowledge shows that all it takes is the uptake of one atom of plutonium to cause a cancer…

      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        I agree, but we lose credibility when we say things like "common knowledge, etc." without explanation.

        Look, I don't want one atom of plutonium in my body, I wouldn't want to work in a nuclear facility and take a risk that the 32 microgram DOE upper limit for inhalation wrong, and I certainly wouldn't want to risk my body absorbing 200 micrograms of plutonium by eating half a gram of plutonium, particularly if that is certain to cause cancer.

        In some instances, one atom might cause cancer, but there is documented research showing that there are lots of folks walking around with measurable amounts of plutonium in their bones (presumably less than approx. 200 micrograms in total) who do not have cancer!

        • No Immediate Danger No Immediate Danger

          "We lose credibility when…"

          We're confronting an enemy that lost credibility long ago. To insist on good behavior under these circumstances demonstrates the same pathology that insists you practice non-violence while a tyrant beats your head in. Don't be a useful idiot.

          Radioisotopes decaying in your body play russian roulette with your cells. If one cell fails to repair itself, you're in trouble. This interaction is unlike a chemical toxin. You can choose to apply a rule-of-thumb probability to your own risk, and insist that you understand the biological consequences of molecular disruption, but don't you dare make those assumptions about my risk, my family's risk or the risk of the planet at large.

          Synthesizing plutonium is a genocidal act committed by confused and fallen people. Don't give them one iota of respect.

          • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

            Perhaps I should lecture you about useful idiots.

            Of course they lost credibility. Their only course of action now is to ensure the other side of the dialectic is equally in fantasy land. Keep it on their turf; they've failed by their own standards.

            Shifting the battle to perfectionism is letting them off the hook for that failure. That's precisely what they want the "useful idiots" on the left to do.

            • flatsville

              Alaskan Ice,

              It might make a difference re: this if those arguing for "perfectionism" were active rather than blathering about it all on an internet comments section.

              No danger that any but a select few here will affect any portion of the reality of Fuku and any remediation…or even stop a future NPP from being built in the US (where they can really have a decisive effect.) And for all the empatic declarations that non-violence in the face of tyrants is pointless, they will never engage in "direct action." It's all bluster.

              Only rarely does the "petfectionist" wing come out and engage directly. I have on occasion found this helpful. See comment by me below.

              • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                flats: "It might make a difference re: this if those arguing for "perfectionism" were active rather than blathering about it all on an internet comments section."

                The comment sections of these popular news aggregators do help guide a much wider audience, directly through readership, as well as indirectly, as various political handlers to policymakers select certain comments with which to try and influence their decisions.

                But, yeah it's mostly just sound and fury, signifying nothing.

                With respect to "direct action", I have yet to sense anyone on this blog would consider that, which is good. That would only push our relatively useless law enforcement and intelligence sectors to the other side of the table, where they might not want to go normally. Better to let them know we question honoring their future pensions before, say, social security, if they fall down on their constitutional oaths and obligations now. Anyone who could credibly get that point across would create many RICO prosecutions and a precipitate new politicians.

                For the larger political sphere, folks at large have to decide whether they want to go on believing the false narratives or not. Beyond the simple human flaw of credulity with respect to any old authority structure: We have five percent of the worlds population somehow magically consuming 20 percent of the worlds resources. Many folks are afraid that if they disbelieve the lies, they might not get the the stuff. . .

                • flatsville

                  Sat for 2 hrs. last night to make a 5 min. statement re: a toxic dump site that has likely killed two children, sickened two others and will no doubt claim more if not properly addressed in the next round of remediation.

                  "Perfectionism" is a joke where this site is concerned. Couldn't even be achieved if you blasted the contaminants out of the bed rock on the site. It's spread downstream through a creek system to a major river.

                  I'm arguing for a standard that won't kill kids outright before they can graduate HS.

                  Save the children…direct action…keep blathering everyone…what a joke.

        • zogerke zogerke

          @alaska ice

          writes:<In some instances, one atom might cause cancer, but there is documented research showing that there are lots of folks walking around with measurable amounts of plutonium in their bones (presumably less than approx. 200 micrograms in total) who do not have cancer!>

          Y E T

      • No Immediate Danger No Immediate Danger

        True, true. One atom can kill you.

        And let's remember, ingestion through eating is only one way for radionuclides to enter the body. An explosion sent plutonium into the air, spreading it downwind miles and miles. Think anyone breathed an atom of that stuff?

      • bozzy54

        In that case let's put 32 grams on the end of a broom stick and shove up his ass

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    There is something that does not seem right here.

    Number three blew its cork. See the video above.

    Now, they admit that there was plutonium spread about after an explosion of number 2? That's not what they said once before as this video now proves.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvSKeu_bJI

    So, what ever these liars and deceivers say, EVERYBODY KNOWS that the plutonium went over the US countryside just after these explosions then, because soterobama the illegal alien usurper and his family ran from it to Brazil after this happened leaving the innocent American People to face this horror unprotected, and unwarned.

    Whether the plutonium fallout was from the # 2 or #3, the point is, the fallout came and contaminated the lands and people and it still contaminating today. The people that are just now awakening to this horror have in most likelihood already been contaminated by the fallout that came over the country around March 20th. The sicknesses will show up sooner or later. We are already seeing many people fall to this horrendous contamination and radioactive fallout. The japanese govt and tepco are criminally negligent in hiding and obfuscating the truth about this for the profits of a few.

    Meanwhile, woke up today with a horrible feeling about what is happening now. Never mind the horseradish bantering back and forth about what did, or did not happen in the past. These liars will never tell the truth to the people. See the rad reporting thread.

    • atomicistheword

      James, Did TEPCO or the Japanese government manufacture and design the 4 atomic radiation reactors? No; General Electric Hitachi did, a company with a record wiped by blind justice (see 1976 Fukushima safety scandal) paid for with mankind's future health. Notwithstanding that they participated though their divisioalized reincarted identities, for example GEH Canada a completely different company from GEH America. Now why did they divionalize? Because of those atomic radiation reactors on the Canadian/American boarder. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

      TEPCO do NOT manufacture Atomic Radiation Reactors. They sell electricity. When you buy a TV and it fails, do you expect where you bought the item to fund its repair, or the maker of the defective television?

      If I were the American government I would be dropping a brick at the moment, the 99‰ are sick with eating cake. They shall seek justice and where will that lead? Fancy a nation fully armed with pissed off cake eaters. France was once like that!

      • atomicistheword

        Ugh, reincarnated! Can you imagine an atomic reactor working like an automatic correction keyboard? Oh yes! We have the answer! Made by human = imperfect.

        I'm not pretending to be GOD.

    • Everything had plutonium in it.. It was just a question of how many tons..

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    From what I've been reading, even if plutonium wasn't radioactive, it is the most toxic metal that exists, and very poisonous.

    I don't think any doctor would tell patients that it is ok to eat an ounce of any metal, let alone a toxic metal.

    Isn't there a law he is breaking by telling patients it is harmless to eat an ounce of toxic metal?

    Shouldn't his license be revoked?

  • Jebus Jebus

    Yet…

    No amount of manmade plutonium is safe for any carbon based life form.

    Absence of cancer or death of these people does not make it right for man to spread his manmade plutonium around this planet.

    Absence of anything does not make a truth.

    It is not just cancer that radionuclides instill into carbon based life forms.

    This is not just about Man. I feel sorry for you if you think it is. There are reproductive issues, DNA damage, blood disorders, and more from this assault on life. Man, Woman, Child, Flora, and Fauna, all suffer from these manmade poisons.

    True colors always surface with the truth…

    • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

      Jebus,

      You probably have a few plutonium atoms in your body right now.

      But, 200 micrograms is about 500,000,000,000,000,000 atoms of plutonium.

      "It is not just cancer that radionuclides instill into carbon based life forms."

      Agreed. While we're at it we could eliminate many manmade chemicals from the environment, and a host of other man-made and harmful things.

      But you don't need to go to the extreme of utopian, perfectionistic, stewards of the earth because Fukushima is SO BAD THAT THE PRO-NUKE INDUSTRY CAN'T EVEN DEFEND IT WITH THEIR PREVIOUS LIES ABOUT "SAFETY." Thus, they keep garbling and mumbling the numbers, see above.

      You're letting them off the hook if you take the fight to the utopian side of the house; they know they've beaten us there thus far.

      One atom, they'll laugh at that; Anything is possible, they'll say, like getting killed by your own furniture. . .

      Talking about one atom in the face of the startlingly larger real numbers here is, in effect, marginalizing the severity of this, I hope you can see that.

      • Jebus Jebus

        One atom or 5 quadrillion atoms. Doesn't matter and my post was to show that. I don't give a flying fuck if someone labels me in any way. Truth is truth. You see there are no average persons in this respect. Picking at the details is ancient history now. If the masses were going to be convinced any way or the other is moot. No one "average" had any say in this, nor will they ever have any say. Trying to be "picture perfect" is not what will cause a change. The storyline has been scripted and the only way any change will happen is if, another one bites the dust, or, Jill and John start having mixed up babies en mass, or, start dying en mass. Details on a blog post are insignificant.

        And the utopian side of the house is long gone my friend…

        • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

          The story ends for nuclear power if they actually have to pay trillions to build the remote control machines to dig up the corium and dispose of it properly, while remediating the site. No one will want a nuclear plant hot-potato after that.

          "The storyline has been scripted. . . "? Why wait for the next one? Why wait for mass birth defects?

          My friend, you've gone from "one atom is too much" to cynicism?

          • Jebus Jebus

            cynicism? I care not to have your "on the fence" guiding hand on my shoulder.

            "Why wait for the next one? Why wait for mass birth defects?"

            Who's waiting? Those one's who didn't get cancer yet? You?

            What cha gonna do? You have a plan?

            Your wish to engage the tiniest little detail is curious.

            Don't bother with it, I'm gonna go eat my daily allowance of plutonium. I do like mine better with a good pilsner…

          • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

            If they're funding the propaganda for their deadly "script" with their money machine, then the only solution might be to take away that money machine.

            On the front side of the Hubbert curve when oil production was expanding, that money machine consisted of credit expansion and reserve currencies.

            Now that oil production has peaked, I'd say, the money machine consists of commodity and FX price fixing supported by an opaque derivatives market with losses backstopped by federal funds zero percent interest rate policy.

            Nowadays I suppose, flipping over the money changer's table would involve no more than truly competing with the InterContinental Exchange.

            Probably enough to start another commodity exchange that was transparent, disallowed derivatives, demanded physical delivery, denominated in other commodities or commodity swaps, and charged a large enough fee per ask or bid to eliminate high frequency trading. They'd attack it with shills using tremendously large trades, but if it managed to survive to accumulate enough volume. . . they'd be finished. . . money changer's table flipped.

            Effectively trading victory for "no-nukes" with a massive re-pricing and change in standards of living, higher in some places, but mostly lower in many parts of western countries. Not to mention a return to true constitutional democracy in a federalist system.

            I wonder, would the ensuing uncertainty of middle-class living be worth it to the average reader.

      • Good Measurements.

        And just think,
        when you die,
        if you fry, it will all come out of the smoke stack and wisp it's way to the next life form!
        if you hit the box,
        eventually you'll enter the water supply…
        maybe they'll just start throwing the bodies under 18 wheelers for crushing and adding us to the pavements…
        then you'll need to check your boots…

      • flatsville

        Alaskan Ice,

        I get it.

        >>>Talking about one atom in the face of the startlingly larger real numbers here is, in effect, marginalizing the severity of this, I hope you can see that.<<<

        The only benefit to the other the other argument is that it makes yours look reasonable.

        I have on occasion teamed up with extremists (at arm's length.) One group leader would amp it up on purpose for me so my argument/solution looked reasonable by comparison. Beuatiful relationship.

        I once threatened to walk away from the table if a remediation solution negotiation didn't porceed apace and leave them in the hands of my "more passionate" associates. We then moved forward immediately.

        • Jebus Jebus

          Silver spoons always dull the logic.

          The logical ones get it, that if one atom of plutonium has that potential, then 5 quadrillion atoms must be very bad.

          I would think that a real lawyer has that logic.

          I guess it's tough to judge that on a blog…

          • flatsville

            Again, the reality of having to sit at a table, lobby at a capitol building or stand in courtroom and actually "get something done" leaves the argument for "perfectionism" in the ditch.

            You are welcome to take direct action to acheive it. You won't be getting in my way.

            Good luck with that.

            Now I must pick up my stainless steel spoon and finish my oatmeal.

            On month to 3/11 3rd Annivetsary. Let's all actually DO something rather than blather about it.

            • Jebus Jebus

              Agreed, Flats, and very good luck on you.

              I come from the lower 99%, where the differences between insight and incite are very real.

              Too bad the chambers have been sold.

              The streets will probably pick up the slack.

              Meatspace beckons here too…

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              There is no spoon and there is not oatmeal..there is only radiation contamination! 🙂

              • flatsville

                I assure you, there was a big spoon and big bowl of creamy steel cut oatmeal with my own honey.

                Making philosphically nonsensical posts so you can interject doesn't add to the conversation…but then, that's not your goal.

          • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

            @Jebus, "The logical ones get it, that if one atom of plutonium has that potential, then 5 quadrillion atoms must be very bad.

            I would think that a real lawyer has that logic."

            Correction: it was 500 quintillion atoms, not 5 quadrillion.

            Here is the logic: why lower the standard to one atom, what they can still dispute (perhaps with some merit), when they have already broken their own (very forgiving) safety standards so drastically that they are scrambling to create new ones and obfuscate all the numbers, measurements and metrics?

            You could have argued about single atoms just as effectively (or ineffectively) before Fukushima. To do so now helps them hide their breach.

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

  • This doctor should be tried for crimes against humanity

  • What is the purpose of this article? Unit 2 was the least damaged. There was an explosion heard at 2, which supposedly damaged the suppression chamber.

    Methinks they are simply trying to put the blame on 2 for the plutonium as a limited hang out lie, to misdirect the reality that Unit 3 blew up in a nuclear explosion and scattered as much as 5 tons of plutonium into the air, much of which made it to the USA.

    Lying criminals! hang them high.

  • Proton

    "Doc, I've been taking my plutonium without food"…
    "32 grams with food? seems like a lot, you sure I'll be OK?"

  • Sol Man

    Phd'd? Conflict near certain. Must look elsewhere.

  • hexagon

    I wonder if what he is technically saying is that you won't die the same day if you ate a fish with 32 grams of plutonium. How much would it take to cause death within a few hours? days? months?

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

    Reactors #3 and #4 had MOX fuel, and their explosions released the most plutonium, Reactpr #1 is next. The roof of Reactor #2 is still intact and released less than Reactors #1, 3, 4.

    The news blackout must be very severe in Japan. Maybe they don't even have the internet any more.

    The human condition seems totally lost and too many brains have already been fried.

  • I am become death, destroyer of worlds Here is a short clip of Oppenheimer and his famous quote above. A reader has suggested the the strange head twist (at 14 seconds in) as he begins his statement of I am Become Death is actually the devil entering his body. It sure is odd. And look at his face, the stress, the introspection, the resignment.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/oppenheimer-and-trinity-nuclear-bomb.html

    • GQR2

      Stock he looks absolutely demented that head twitch was beyond strange.
      he is really a good actor or completely crazed. personally i pick the later with a stiff dose of demon possession on the side followed by a hubris chaser. No reason on this earth justifies bringing this technology foward. No excuse. oh man kind this oh man kind that..its all lame excuses for this poison, this killing genie out of the bottle which cannot be recalled back. ever.

    • guevara3712

      it's a weird motion and one that i have noted before in self professed spirit mediums. thanks for pointing this out.i have often said if there is a tangible representation of true evil in the physical world it is all things nuclear.

    • guevara3712

      and look how ''blank'' his eyes are for a second as his head returns to normal position.

    • weegokiburi weegokiburi

      Good interview with Openheimer.
      Gets interesting in around 16.30 when he is asked if we will destroy ourselves.
      "Not completely …. Only the greatest act of faith can persuade you that what's left will be human"

  • Sickputer

    Thanks Alaskan Ice for the reference to Cohen and Nader who I have posted about several times before.

    It was the late Professor Bernard Cohen who advanced the now thoroughly discredited theory of radiation hormesis. In a nutshell…small amounts of artificial radiation are beneficial to human health.

    He issued a ridiculous challenge to Ralph Nader: "I will eat as much plutonium as you can consume in salt".

    Nader of course ignored this nucleorat looney. Other nucleorats still cling to this false prophet. Most recently the brain dead politician advocating spraying radiation from government planes to improve citizen health. Which the government actually did covertly years ago in at least one government secret genocidal experiment. And fairly overtly in waiting for winds to turn in the direction of the lesser important populace of Idaho for atomic bkmb blasts. The Idaho folks later were added to the Radiation Compensation Act as a sign of guilt and penance I guess:

    http://www.justice.gov/civil/common/reca.html

    Awards to date as of Feb 6, 2014 approaching $2 billion:

    http://www.justice.gov/civil/omp/omi/Tre_SysClaimsToDateSum.pdf

    Back to our nutcase Japanese 32-grammer:

    Assuming he did not have an intestinal cut that would infect him with the deadly plutonium there still remains the problem of dealing with this ignorant ape's defecation.

    No problem in Japan…just burn it in the sewage sludge in Tokyo's death-dealing incinerators. TBC..

  • jec jec

    0.5 gm of ingested plutonium for a lethal dose to human. Thats a lot different than 32 grams..!!! See
    http://www.muller.lbl.gov/pages/PlutoniumToxicity.pdf
    Note how little of inhaled PU it takes for lethal dose…in lungs..nasty stuff Plutonium..!!

    WAY off Professor Narabayashia, keep your day job at Toshiba…

    • Even this document is a pro nuclear propaganda piece…

      They do not count genetic effects, deaths due to cancers 10- 30 years down the road, effect on fetuses, eggs, sperm, etc.

      According to this article, there is nothing to worry about with plutonium.. drink it, snort it, breathe it all day long, no worries mate.

      No reason to fear anything radioactive, cause it only results in a few casualties, no matter what…

      Might as well teach people hormesis theory and add plutonium to the toothpaste, like flouride.

  • scientific study concludes;

    Plutonium Is The Most Toxic, Radioactive, Man Made Element, With No Natural Biological Role In The Human Body; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/01/plutonium-is-toxic-radioactive-man-made.html

  • Plutonium Mimics Iron In Body – 2 Million Times More Dangerous Than Uranium, MOX Planned For Use In All Future Nuclear Power Plants; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/09/plutonium-mimics-iron-in-body-2-million.html

  • Sickputer

    Plutonium is so safe, huh? So safe it needs to be stored forever!

    Repost from last June:

    http://enenews.com/paper-u-s-nuclear-site-a-true-horror-story-officials-should-be-screaming-at-top-of-their-lungs-in-outrage-problems-could-lead-to-explosions-or-nuclear-reactions-hanford

    SP: The poor test plutonium beagles ended up at Hanford:

    "828 Radioactive Beagles Are Buried At Hanford

    October 17, 1990

    SPOKANE, WASH. — Hundreds of dead dogs, the remains of a Cold War radiation experiment, were shipped to the Hanford nuclear reservation for burial last month. Coming next: 17.5 tons of their radioactive excrement. The 828 dead beagles, shipped from California in 55-gallon drums, were buried in trenches at Hanford. Their remains had been stored in freezers at the Institute of Toxicology and Environmental Health on the University of California campus at Davis. The last dog died at the age of 18 1/2 in 1986, 27 years after government-funded beagle experiments began. The beagle cleanup, expected to cost about $22 million, is part of a nationwide Department of Energy effort to clean up radiation contamination at university labs."

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1990-10-17/news/9010171059_1_beagles-hanford-nuclear-reservation-radioactive

    Addendum Feb 2014:

    SP: This is how Dr. Nucleo Frankenstein treats man's best friend. Is it any wonder they are so callous about the humans in their realm? Monsters of poison and death.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Here's the IAEA's contribution to cancer.

    Cancer Control – IAEA's Contribution
    9 January 2014

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/multimedia/videos/cancer/090114/amano/

    Give them the cancer machines after giving them the cancer machines…

    Why not make money on both fronts?

    It's a hell of a business model…

  • Jebus Jebus

    This one made me upchuck a trillionth of a gram of plutonium in my mouth…

    World Cancer Day 2014 – Statement by Kwaku Aning
    4 February 2014

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/multimedia/videos/cancer/wcd2014/aning/index.html

  • MOX turns reactors into Plutonium Cannons (TM)

  • Jebus Jebus

    Thoughts? Questions?

    My questions are, how does this compare with the EPA's previous drinking water standards before they were raised 5000%?

    What radionuclides did they test for? Why? Why not?

    First results from crowdfunded study shows radioactive seawater from Fukushima has NOT reached the US coast

    http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/first-results-from-crowdfunded-study-shows-radioactive-seawater-from-fukushima-has-not-reached-the-us-coast/

    How many high fives did Ken get for this?

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread996935/pg1

    Is everybody smiling happy and satisfried now?

  • w

    All those Nuke-Numbed-Nuts keep on proclaiming how safe it is to ingest or be expose to various amount of radionuclides. You're right, LoveE. Let's see them demonstrate them to us.

  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

    @W;Hmm,your post has "hit home" and has "duel-meaning" for me,="Nuke-Numbed-Nuts"per Dr.Helen's description of "Plutonium seeks & tends to accumulate in the testes of men"!! 🙁 and they HAVE demonstrated "how safe" their crap is!-just take my avatar into consideration since it depicts the former TEPCO mascot "Pluto-kun" as he tells a wary,skeptical Japanese schoolboy "go ahead & drink this PU-39,it's really harmless and passes through the body without any ill effect"!! 😐 They ARE & ALWAYS HAVE been scumbag bastards who make heroin dealers pushing dope on kids look like saints!! What a strange,FUKuD-up world we live in(?)!(& die sooner in now too!)

  • Jebus Jebus

    Air and water-born transport and diffusion of contaminants from the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant – Part 1

    https://ams.confex.com/ams/94Annual/webprogram/Session34537.html

    Air and water-born transport and diffusion of contaminants from the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant – Part 2

    https://ams.confex.com/ams/94Annual/webprogram/Session35512.html

  • Don't know how but know irrevocable we must draw the line in the sand.
    We must stop those who kill every living thing.

    We must wage war.

    Of course we, non killers, have no idea in the world what to do?

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Prof. Narabayashia…if you bring the 32 grams of Pu I will bring the bananas and you can have at it sir.

  • razzz razzz

    Another outdated report working off TEPCO data and scenarios. Quake was a minor inconvenience.

    What have these people been smoking or is radiation poisoning affecting their metal capacity?

    Must really suck when your rapture disks don't fail because your containments have such massive leaks that pressure can't buildup to blowout the disks.

    How many firemen and employees were killed when Unit 3 blew up? The prepared emergency cooling plumbing and pumps were destroyed but no mention of the emergency crews. Not important I suppose.

    Emergency cooling loops are only meant to recirculate hot water to make it cool and send it back into the reactor for cooling again. In a melt down, your cooling water is all radioactively contaminated and continued looping it through plumbing and coolers makes that cooling system radioactive.

    Couldn't relieve enough pressure via manual venting because the undersized containments stayed over pressured. Failed Units could vent themselves through cracks but not enough to lower internal pressure for injecting cooling seawater (in the early stages of the meltdowns). Units had to vent themselves by blowing up, getting to the equal pressure of zero. Ruining containments in the process.

    After Units blew up, they could inject all the cooling they wanted because it was free to leak out in every direction and still does to this day.

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Link to transcript from2011. Narabayashi. Nakagawa. Ohashi and Plutokun( little plutonium boy.. nuclear industry mascot)
    These people are criminally insane
    http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/three-plutonium-brothers-of-japan-they.html?m=1

    • bo bo

      Here is a sarcastic anti nuclear song by 'Timers'
      The video works as a who's who of pro nuke professors.
      Tokyo University = Yale University equivalent in being factory of evil
      Other institutions – Tokyo Institute of Technology, Hokkaido University, Tohoku University, Osaka University, Hiroshima University and Nagasaki University. (Nice touch, those last 2 on the list.)

      In the meantime, our hero professor Hiroaki Koide maintains his anti nuclear fort at Kyoto University. Actually, he's still assistant professor. And he will never be promoted to professor because of his outspoken anti nuke position.

      @1:16- you can see narabayashi's face

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETaDN13Je3Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • Nick

    Radiation affects brain cells.

    How else do you explain this insanity?

    GMI here we come!

    (Global Mass Insanity)

  • Folks: It is just a cultural misunderstanding. If you followed the Japanese government specialists and spokespeople, they actually mean that ionizing radiation won't do its marvels if one is "shielded" with "smiling face". Following that rationale, I conclude that if one smiles, then the toxic effects of plutonium won't cause any harm. How do you say "sheeple" in Japanese? New World Order anyone? Check the YouTube video by G Edward Griffin: "The Quigley Formula". Good Luck To Humanity! The Psychos have taken over…

  • NucMed

    Sorry, but this professor is an idiot.

  • obo sez everyone will keep their nukes if they like them,, or even if you don't. you can keep your liars posing as govts too,, even when you know they are liars and thieves. 32g of plutonium should be dispersed to the "experts" for every lie told about nuke safety

  • Paulie777

    Here's my take on the whole Fukushima situation. First of all, it would be naive to think that any of us know exactly what happened because the ones that do know are not telling the public, and are telling us what they feel would serve them the best way. So no one here really knows, we have to make our own best guess. Here's mine. Half of the disaster's damage happened at the onset and when unit three blew up, however that was. The other half will be a slow ongoing process, and no one, especially the ones in charge know how to stop it. I personally do not believe there is much inside unit four except large amounts of radioactive debris, nothing organized in there as they say. Unit three is also a pit of debris as well. The worst part is no one has answers and if we had the exact truth as the ones involved do, we would all probably panic, so they are doing the right thing by not telling us. Nothing anyone can do anyways about it now.

    • rogerthat

      Well Paulie that's about my take, though I think about 75 per cent went airborne in the first week. Doesn't seem to matter much, it's all out of containment and now part of the environment, the rest to be delivered on the instalment plan for ever and ever.But I'm inclined to think the panic will be caused by their failure to tell. The bogeyman lives in the darkness, is made bigger by the dark.

  • combomelt combomelt

    mmmm. what flavor is that kool-aid? and yes its far worse than imagined

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      combomelt…new interview with Helen Caldicott
      "Helen says, at this point there is no "best case scenario" for Fukushima, just worsening degrees of horror because it's scientifically impossible to clean up what has already occurred. And with thousands of spent fuel rods and thousands more active rods still in the fuel pools of the damaged reactor buildings, the worst case scenario – if another major earthquake hits the area – is an ecological nightmare of biblical proportions for everyone living in the Northern hemisphere."

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_CiEnJ4Wo

      • combomelt combomelt

        yes sorry getting soft with new flavors. I apologize

        • combomelt combomelt

          "we would all probably panic, so they are doing the right thing by not telling us"
          I DIDNT AGREE with the quote above from p777, and I should have been clear…
          I wanted to say directly to the "scientists" and "engineers" and "politicians" and "researchers" out there – NONE OF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIE RIGHT IN OUR F-ING OUR FACES ABOUT WHAT WE SEE AND READ WITH OUR OWN F-ING EYES THAT EVERYTHING AROUND US SEEMS TO BE BEING F-ING KILLED BY FUKUSHIMA 24.7.365 while THE TRUTH IS COMPLETELY SILENCED ON ALL PUBLIC FORUMS AND OUTLETS AND ON ALL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND POPULAR TALKING HEADS.
          dont fing tell me im better off not knowing
          wow f
          breath
          seriously again, no sarc, i just hated to hear another version of "whatever you do its better if you don't say/hear/think the truth".

          • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

            combomelt…I knew it was sarcasm you were expressing at p777, and I agree with everything you just said. F*** all these liars….P777 had said something similar in another forum that we should all be like the astronauts on the shuttle and "die classy".

            I said the astronauts volunteered , the earth and all lifeforms did not volunteer to die so GE could make a profit off all our deaths….

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