Published: February 7th, 2012 at 5:00 am ET
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Title: Messages show conflict within NRC after Japan earthquake and tsunami
Source: The Washington Post
Author: Steven Mufson
Date: Monday, February 6, 7:39 PM
[...] a trove of e-mails posted on the NRC’s Web site [...]
While assuring Americans publicly that there was no danger, the NRC did not disclose one worst-case scenario, which did not rule out the possibility of radiation exceeding safe levels for thyroid doses in Alaska, the e-mails show. “Because things were uncertain, we considered it but the data that was available . . . did not support that very pessimistic scenario so no, it was not discussed publicly at that point,” NRC spokesman Scott Burnell said. In the end, Alaska was not affected.
Read the report here
See also:
- NRC email on potential contamination of Alaska waters from Fukushima radiation
- Reuters: Radiation tests underway on dead and diseased seals in Alaska -- Suffering bleeding lesions, hair loss (PHOTO)
- Dutch Harbor, Alaska had highest airborne radiation levels of anywhere in US -EPA
Published: February 7th, 2012 at 5:00 am ET
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Can you imagine what things would be like today if the government had taken the right action rather than spending millions suppressing all information about this?
If Oblama would have had the balls to be a true leader?
If they would have immediately gotten to work removing all the spent fuel and containing the cores rather than letting all the radiation go and covering it up.
The lies, deception and poor decision making on this are epic.
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A public opposed to nuclear energy? The Corp of the U.S. can’t lose profits and the nuclear industry is it’s baby; It will always prevent the government from acting responsibly and for our best interests, everytime guaranteed.
Something that caught my eye was the mentioning of studies, the NRC commissioned, on what would happen to the fuel in the SFP if there was a loss of water. They said the would not release the results to the public and they never will. Germany and France apparently asked for this information, right after Fukushima, and the NRC flat-out denied the release citing “national security” reasons.
Now, why would information concerning the effects of the loss of water in the spent fuel pool be “classified?” In my mind, this leads me to believe two things. One, the NRC has known from the near beginning the actual state and risk of Fukushima, as well as the future failures to expect at the plant. Two, the radiation releases from a loss of water in the SFP are in fact extremely high and transportable over a distance, and even perhaps a criticality event. Either way, the only reason they would cover-up the results of the studies, on that particular situation, can only mean it is a catastrophic failure at the minimal on par with a meltdown. (The study was created to investigate terrorism on the SFP) If there was no incredible risk posed, they would release the information because it wouldn’t “matter” if terrorists emptied the pool. (Do SFP’s release more than core melts?)
I find it alarming they wouldn’t even share the information with De and Fr nuclear agencies. If they don’t share such information with other countries then there is no way in heck we will ever hear 1/10000th of what actually goes on in the industry.
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NRC Hid Information from the Public? OF COURSE THEY DID!
NRC built a “worst-case” scenario from the pile of rubble that became the Nuke industry’s pseudoscience?? OF COURSE THEY DID!
NRC claims the “worst” did NOT occur? OF COURSE IT DID!
So, all’s well in Oz…no phone calls from trade and commerce lobbyists screaming…no drop in sales of Pacific-caught tuna or Alaskan crabmeat…just shut up and eat your fish!!
Ah Bones, people like you are the reason I frequent this website, you all help me maintain my sanity!
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Really well done vid on tuna contam on a new playlist I started on my Youtube channel…ionjeangreen
Go to http://m.youtube.com/playlist?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&list=PL4038CD856E18C7F9
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Of course they know, indeed that is the problem that is bigger than Fuku
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PS we don’t have to hear, we know.
What we have to do is act, educate. Rage.
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That’s the difference between the men and the boys.
Russia stepped up, they did what they knew had to be done. Now we know Chernobyl was the best case scenario for a nuclear accident…Fuku is what will happen to the rest of these reactors around the world.
What is going to stop this maddness from continuing? And if any of you can think of something…well lets get started today cause we are already late. If not, live like there is no tomorrow…cause there won’t be.
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Indeed I have a video on Chernobyl, they were awesome warriors, not lying bureaucrats.
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If people riot and loot after their favorite sports team wins. I can only imagine the anarchy if Obama came on tv and said we have a ELE event. No one has handled it right but no one considered this senerio. (unbelievable.) I think of the government as the men in black. Flashing us every time we see something.
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These NRC e-mails show more than just conflict…
They show frightening incompetence on every step of the nuclear-industry ladder.
Did you read the idea the had of stuffing newspapers and junk to stop leaks of radioactive water from flowing into the ocean ??
Do you think they know by now that tons of radioactive water has polluted the Pacific Ocean?
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They know, they pray to protect their power and privilege, they pray for the continuation of their gravy train, their ego trip of turning matter into energy. They know the damage, and deep down they know the lies.
It feeds their families, buys them their fancy cars, stokes their egos, gets some respect a nuke engineers. The human brain can achieve almost any lie to accomplish those things….their own self worth, earthly goods, respect of other humans who don’t even know the risk being shoved into their bodies and their DNA.
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BTW – the NRC is going into CYA mode.
That’s code for the wheels starting to come off.
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Poor Harp Seals..some one needs to tell them the radiation killing them is “not real.” They need to “smile and be happy”. Alaska is still in the bullseye for radiation; our government needs to have plans/meds in place to help the children at a minimum. Like KI tablets and radiation monitoring for the individual–badges. How about just radiation monitoring –released to the “public”?
IF clusters of thyroid cancer occur in children in the Alaska area–the people who HELD the information could be liable. And in our lawyer heavy environment, can’t think of a better thing to have happen–legal action. Proof is now possible to ID cancer in thyroid from radiation fallout–so no hiding behind a natural cause. Where these people get the GOD complex and prevent critical info getting to the “public”..they need a wakeup call..
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NO, Not our government! Our government is always looking out for us trying to protect us, being proactive willing to error on the side of caution. Our government would never keep any important information from us that could impact OUR VERY LIVES! They would never do that because they know if they did do something like that the media, full of investigative journalists that are always looking for a big scoop on a story would certainly find out and tell on them.
Americans have become lazy. We have handed over our ability to think for ourselves to the government and the media.
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YES Thinking for oneself is thought to be deviant.
I call it fast food thinking. You only consider things from a point of view of what has been offered as an option.
It directs the thinking, controls the mind, and usually concludes with a purchase
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I’LL BUY THAT! Seriously, DEPTH of thinking is lacking, especially if the topic is, you know, like, serious, and outside the happythink bubble. Even among “adults”.
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Exactly. Somehow stating anything contrary to life being an endless picnic constitutes a personality flaw. I think the extra brain damage from radiation has reached the US also.
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@ many moons
Like your “fast food” analogy. It is very true.
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“In the end, Alaska was not affected.” That’s that, then.
SHUT THEM ALL DOWN
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So not the “worst-case” scenario.
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In the end Alaska was deemed collateral damage.
I hope Jaczko told Queen Youtube “Piss OFF! I’m busy!”
Chu’s Gov’t Official Offer Forum – GOOF
Kinetic Reactor Inhibiting Shaped Procedure
KRISP
Chu’s group was to think thru what ifs – and then zip it about the worst.
The emails have been available for weeks for all non-investigative journalists to ignore.
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Report of national training course on “Medical preparedness and response to radiation emergencies”, 2-6 Oct. 2004, Tehran, Iran
http://www.ijrr.com/browse.php?a_code=A-10-1-73&slc_lang=en&sid=1&sw=
do you think the iranians will be using the techniques taught by the japanese and IAEA in the case of a nuclear emergency?
dont tell the population because the overall dose is “negligable”. according to the ICRP and ignoring the BEIR 7 reort!!
Radiation risks from Fukushima ‘no longer negligible’ [fr]
Published 11 April 2011
http://www.euractiv.com/health/radiation-risks-fukushima-longer-negligible-news-503947
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I sure hope OfficerDave got his family out of there.
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YES self!! CHECK IN OcciferDAVE! I often think about him and pray he and his young family is safe.
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My Canadian Government has and is doing the same thing. NOTHING! It does not even make the mainstream press. When one contacts the local government asking if they plan on doing ANY testing, there reaction is we feel we do not need to. There reaction to our fishing stocks is the same….we do not need to! Nothing preventive. This speaks volumes. Do not ever believe the government, and question EVERYTHING!!! Oh wait, we must be conspirators…..
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trinityfly, it has been my contention that Canada has enacted one of the most effective Media suppressions of all the western nations, since 3/11.
The absence of news – the dog that DIDN’T bark – led me to look everywhere.
CBC said a record number of Cdns watched the Stupor Bowl tho…
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Well, I feel much safer now, because the worst case scenario, did not happen in the end….
I was always told that, if at first you don’t succeed (in wiping out the northern hemisphere), you try, try again (with another 50 year old NPP somewhere else)!
This articles spin can not be swallowed without external force!
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Is the ‘safe’ level of iodine based on a single exposure? Seems to me that living through weeks of sub-clinical levels of iodine might be as bad as a single larger dose. And just how close was the iodine level to that mark? 80%? 30%? If it was a low number, I’d crow about it, silence is deafening.
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What a lie… that there is a ‘safe’ dose of radioactive iodine. This has been going on for 10 months now.
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Thyroid Cancer occurred in my daughter approximately 10-12 years AFTER she spent three months being exposed to Chernobyl fallout in 1986. As a parent,I feel terrible I did not realize the danger then. Of course, no media coverage, all is safe/okay..or in otherwords, “smile and be happy.” Thank goodness she was able to have a family-but one child had major bone malformation in face. Daughter is in remission, but cancer got outside the thyroid, so its a difficult and expensive treatment which is ongoing. At least she caught it, had surgery, and has follow up radiation treatment every three years. Probably will get either luekemia or bladder cancer later in life, but living somewhat normally now.
Children in Alaska, they probably got a similar dose as we did. So their parents need to watch for lumps in the neck –for whatever it is that causes the masses. It could be a blood cancer as well as thyroid cancer/damage. Because the US government does not monitor the levels, and did not notify public — children may have been needlessly exposed. It would be much better to over react and protect our children -rather than AFTER the fact realize there was exposure to radiation which will cause future medical/physical damage.
Will Japan cover the costs–emotional, physical damages, medical costs. NOPE. They dont even cover THEIR citizens.
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jec, I’m so sorry about your daughter. I know first-hand that thyroid medication is not the replacement for a thyroid that they say it is.
My daughter is a Celiac, and iodine triggers a painfully itchy dermatitis, it seems close to chicken pox in the level of discomfort. At least the rash seems to mean that it does not do as much damage to the intestine, like it probably does to mine, as a celiac without the dermititis. So, we are sitting ducks. I try to get as much in her not to trigger the worst of the rash, but it is all impossible, and I want the people responsible to have to suffer so.
If you take increased amounts of iodine and get a fluid filled rash in strange places like the front of your knees, well, there’s a good chance that you are a Celiac. There is even an iodine “challenge” test, because only celiacs develop it, about 25% of them.
http://www.celiac.com/articles/177/1/The-Gluten-Intolerance-Group-of-North-America-on-Iodine-and-Dermatitis-Herpetiformis/Page1.html
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hey, wait! – they keep “spent” – and hot – fuel rods in pools of water. Cause it looks pretty? No. They know – surely to goodness they KNOW – what happens to uncovered spent fuel rods.
SO – why in hell was Sandia Nat’l Lab funded to DO A STUDY on what happens when a pool goes dry in 2003?
Wasn’t that redundant and un-necessary?
I mean, whether by leak or plane crash, if the pool goes dry…they didn’t know what could happen?
THE DAMN THINGS WERE DESIGNED AND BUILT TO KEEP THE RODS IMMERSED FOR A REASON!
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Radioactive iodine
After the occurrence of the present
Japanese nuclear crisis, the main focus is on
the cancer prevention. There are strong
evidences confirming the thyroid carcinogenesis
due to exposed to radioactive iodine
leaked from destroyed nuclear power plant
(1–3). Similar to non radioactive iodine, the
radioactive iodine, iodine 131 (I131), can be
absorbed into the thyroid gland of the
exposed subjects. This is the basic pathogenesis
of several thyroid disorders.
The alteration of thyroid cellular
function is reported and the genetic alteration
that further induces pre-cancerous
lesion development is detectable (4). Of
interest, it is detected that the iodine unsaturated
thyroid tissue has a higher
absorption of radioactive iodine, hence, it is
the basic concept for prevention (5, 6). Due to
the strong evidence, it is suggested to
implement the potassium iodine prophylaxis
in the areas highly exposed to leaked radioactive
elements.
The alteration of thyroid cellular
function is reported and the genetic alteration
that further induces pre-cancerous
lesion development is detectable (4). Of
interest, it is detected that the iodine unsaturated
thyroid tissue has a higher
absorption of radioactive iodine, hence, it is
the basic concept for prevention (5, 6). Due to
the strong evidence, it is suggested to
implement the potassium iodine prophylaxis
in the areas highly exposed to leaked radioactive
elements.
Finally, it should also be noted that the
exposure to I131 cause not only malignancy
but also non malignancy thyroid disorder (7).
The I131 is reported to alter the normal
immune function, T cell, and this can result
in the induction of autoimmune thyroiditis
(8, 9).
http://www.ijrr.com/browse.php?a_code=A-10-1-413&slc_lang=en&sid=1&sw=
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I don’t believe for a second Alaska didn’t get higher thyroid cancer from Fukushima. The rest of the U.S. is going to get more thyroid cancer. We know this. Why would Alaska be spared, at that latitude?
This article is very misleading.
They will get the cancers, too, if not on Day 1 of the accident, then over time (not as long as many probably think) like the rest of the country.
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I mean “higher thyroid cancer risk”, or “won’t get higher thyroid cancer”.
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I agree GoFrodo. According to radiation modeling maps, Alaska got it, too:
http://enformable.com/2011/09/kyushu-university-researchers-release-radioactive-materials-dispersion-model/
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some more cover ups going on in scandanavia too! radnet no longer allows you to keep a copy of the graphs.. like the recent eurdep mapping.. seems like they all got the memo from iaea lady.. naughty b and b!!
heres my take on the finnish, swedish and norwegian recent statements that the contamination comes from either fukushima and russia but DEFINATELY NOT europe!!
seems appropriate on this thread!!
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slow but sure!
Norwegian bank criticised for nuclear investments
Major bank Nordea makes investments in companies that produce nuclear weapons, reports say.
REMEMBER FALLUJAH!!
“While other banks have chosen to withdraw Nordea has continued to invest into these companies arguing this was to bring about change, despite the fact they have been blacklisted by Norway’s Sovereign Wealth Fund.
Environmental organization The Future in Our Hands (Framtiden i våre hender), alleges the bank’s investment portfolio shows large companies such as Boeing and EADS are amongst those specialized in making parts for nuclear weapons.
Censuring Nordea sharply for ignoring criticism and encouraging it to take a stand by withdrawing its investments, leader Arild Hermstad says to NRK, “We find it extremely regrettable and sad that Nordea does not follow industry practice and think earning money on nuclear weapons production goes far beyond what is ethically acceptable.””
AND THIS…..
“Meanwhile, Economics and Ethics professor at the Norwegian School of Bergen, Alexander Cappelen, says, “Basically, Nordea and other owners should ask themselves whether nuclear weapons production is a type of business they both want to contribute to and make money on.””
http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/norwegian-bank-criticised-for-nuclear-investments/
THINK I KNOW WHY EURDEP WENT OFF LINE?
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NOTICE I GOT BACK ON TOPIC!! who makes these weapons.. the usa!! the same mob who are planning strip mining and fracking norway!! and only 4 million people standing in big corps way… !!
WATCH IT NORWAY!! YOUVE BEEN WARNED!!
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Nordeas promoter Sasja Beslik awarded for work with responsible investments in nuclear weapons…
Uploaded by Nordea on Mar 8, 2011
“big shift we will see ahead of us in the next five to ten years”
got that damn right! 8 march 2011??
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http://www.nordea.lt/files/downlods/signs_of_crisis_2011_08.pdf
nice page on japan.. the caring bank.. has some nice graphs though!!
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nordea has close ties with the swedish banking sector and the finnish too!! norway and sweden share a reactor on the border with sweden and norway is going to build one of them dodgy experimental reactors that nearly melted down recently!!
and most norwegians dont have a clue!!! nice bangsters!! not!!
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Nordea – #20 in “nuclear banks” ranking, invests 2.3 billion € in nuclear…tossers!
http://www.nuclearbanks.org/#/nuclear%20banks/nordea
*check your bank on that page!
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nice find b and b! best you pop back to the guardian thread
no eurdep and…
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Destruction of the food chain…easy to do in a fragile environment..the Native peoples… soon to suffer as well.
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/radiation-investigated-possible-cause-alaska-ringed-seal-deaths
So many secrets to hide….
Sick and hungry….swell….
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The area that the ringed seals live in was exposed to short half-life thorium daughters like thallium-208… high energy, intensely radioactive, but they’ll never find these isotopes now.
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The recent double Minnesota leaks happened on the land of the Prairie Island Dakota Indian Community, and they didn’t tell them about the November one until this week.
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I still want to know about the tsunami debri. I am talking to you media. Some experts think that the debri collectively served as a transport barge of plutonium to our west coast of North America. Our common observations seem to confirm this as well. The debris was just off the shores of Japan when the plants spewed. The wind was blowing out to sea. Gravity pulled the heavier particles and pieces back down to earth. The debris has been floating in the ocean currents toward North America. 1+1+1+1= 4. 4=Don’t touch the stuff that washes up on shore.
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Hi hbjon
I wouldn’t touch, that stuff either. That is for people who know how to handle radiation things and who have the protective gear on.
It’s sad, I don’t even have a desire to go see the beautiful ocean that God created.
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Right. I grew up by the ocean and in the ocean. There is a sad and a damn sad. This here describes the latter. Protective gear? So is that it? Fourth of July celebration on the beach with a respirator and protective gear? God is great and God is good, let us thank him for our food by His hand we all are fed, give us Lord our daily bread.
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And please hold the cesium.
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I don’t believe Alaska has an invisible barrier to protect other places. This has/will spread through out North America and then so on to other places.
I do believe from day one, those we have in charge, knew the dangers we will face. If I knew, why wouldn’t they with all the technical things they have.
I was appalled how badly people handled a football game, what is wrong with people? How would they handle this, if they understood?
If people would have been told right away, some would have freaked, some would try to protect themselves, those who could would flee.
Legally do the people in charge have the responsibility to warn people, or try to keep secrets hiding things from the public to keep the masses from freaking out, causing havoc?
Personally, I prefer to know and I want my adult kids to be officially warned. Even adult kids roll their eyes at their parents, deciding to go skiing in the radiation snow and moving to places towards the jet stream that brings all this in.
The truth usually comes out, best to be honest from day one.
People will need help with health care, since they didn’t have a plan to protect them from the dangers of these monsters they have built.
Medical research will be needed to find new ways of adapting our bodies to the radiation environment that they have decided to create. Something to purify the oceans and air, would be nice. Any idea’s on how to kill these nuclear monsters?
Stop building destructive things, put your minds to build things that better our world.
This world is not just one Country, this world was given to all of us, to take care of.
Stop fighting with each other, instead fight together in saving this world, which is our environment.
End Nuclear Power
~Peace~
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The power that be, care about power, not about you or me. Bring it on, bring peace.
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Personally I think we all need some cockroach DNA injected so that we can adapt to the radiation. That is the ticket and dollars to donuts some scientist is already working on it.
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Bullcrap. That is all
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The lies, the deceit, they never stop. Just finished reading up on the Downwinders of Utah and Nevada and the legacy of the U.S. Govt.’s nuclear testing in the 1950′s.I am at fifty years of age firmly convinced that all govts. are inherently EVIL and deserve the types of acts perpetrated upon them like that of Timothy McVeigh at Oklahoma City back in the 90′s. I’ll probably be on some sort of govt. watch list for a comment such as this , but I don’t GAF. Screw all o0f the worthless govt. employees who live parasitically off the rest of us.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIJbRhD1CRw&feature=player_embedded
can anyone read the headers on this…?
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