US Gov’t: Melted fuel most likely burned through containment at Fukushima reactors; We’re concerned about failures underground… “Where did it leak out? How did it leak out? We don’t know” — Expert: Corium may have flowed into reactor buildings, burned through floor (PHOTOS & AUDIO)

Published: May 28th, 2015 at 2:30 pm ET


Brian Sheron, Office Director of Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s Office of Nuclear Regulatory Research, NRC’s 2013 Regulatory Information Conference (emphasis added): Aqueous release occurred during Fukushima accident… Current models do not address aqueous release pathways… [NRC’s Office of Nuclear Regulatory Research] is starting a program to assess: Containment failure modes that could lead to aqueous releases; Source term modeling for aqueous pathways; Transport of contaminated water and its radiological consequences…

Sheron, Part I (6:15 in): “Another area that we’re looking at — it’s not really part of the ‘Post-Fukushima Lessons Learned’ — it’s aqueous pathways. One of the things we saw — and it was because most likely perhaps containment failure and liner melt-through — that there was contaminated water that was released to the environment into the ground. And the question is, how does that water behave once it’s released? How does it find its way to other waterways? What kind of doses might be expected from that? We’re just starting right now to do some work in that area.”

Sheron, Part II (11:45 in): “There was actually aqueous releases at Fukushima… The question is: Where did it leak out? How did it leak out? We don’t know yet. Speculation is… the core melt probably went down into the drywell, spread, and perhaps burned through the liner, which will provide a release path… The question now is: if there are aqueous release paths during a severe accident, what are the consequences? What we’re planning on looking at, at least — we haven’t started — is to first look at containment failure modes: Did we miss anything? Are there containment failure modes — that could occur below grade, you might say [Below grade: The portion of a building that is below ground level] — where water could leak out? The source term modeling for the aqueous pathways. Then the transport of that contaminated water, and the radiological consequences. How does it get into surface water? Does it stay in ground water? And what are the radiological doses… downstream? The expectation is, we’ll get a better feel for what the safety concern is with that, and whether any further actions are needed.”

Randall Gauntt, Manager of Sandia National Laboratories’ Severe Accident Analysis Dept., NRC’s 2013 Regulatory Information Conference (15:00 in): “You can see core materials dropping down… about 90 tons of core material to the cavity region. When that material hits the cavity, core concrete interaction starts up. This is a picture from an experiment where we’re looking at core-concrete interaction. To give you an idea, once it hits the floor, more bad stuff happens — here you see what core-concrete interaction looks like.”

Steven C. Sholly, Senior Scientist, Institute of Safety and Risk Sciences: Fukushima Accident Progression — Core debris… attacks the concrete on the drywell floor [and] can contact the drywell shell… in the absence of water on the drywell floor, melt-through of the drywell shell is likely… [I]t is possible for core debris… to flow into the vent pipes, melt through them, and deposit on the lowest level of the reactor building“Molten Corium/Concrete Interaction” (MCCI) can take place in both the drywell and the reactor building.

See also: US gov’t analysis says Fukushima is more serious than ‘China Syndrome’ — Destroyed reactors suffered drywell liner failure, the worst type of containment failure

Conference Recordings: Sheron I | Sheron II | Gauntt

Published: May 28th, 2015 at 2:30 pm ET


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  • ocifferdave

    "Melted fuel “most likely” burned through containment at Fukushima reactors"

    I'm tired of this tippy-toe around the problem talk from "officials".

  • a global affair for which all perps must be held accountable

    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      The myth of nuclear "safety" needs to finally retire into the dustbin of history and have it's status forever cast as a reckless lie done for profit. There cannot be "safe" nuclear anything. Nuclear is clearly criminally reckless since the perpetrators of this insane technology fully know the severe consequences of the inevitable radioactive accidents which condemn innumerable victims, over hundreds of generations, to horrible genetic diseases, cancers, deformities and an ever gowing list of radiation linked illnesses. The nukers are willingly risking all our lives and our descendents' futures so they can make money now. Nuclear waste storage?? Ahh not to worry! We will just pile it up for decades in open air pools and let future nukers figure it out. Spend profits to make nuke energy reactors safer?? No need for all that! Just relicense the dirty bomb reactors for another 20-40 years beyond their original engineered design life! If they blow up or melt down then who cares! The government is insuring the nuke power plants so no consequences when radioactive poisons inevitably poison millions of children. What other business has this much risk? What other business has ZERO liability?? NUCLEAR IS CRIMINALLY INSANE!!!
      Ban Reactors Forever

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Excellent! 🙂

        • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

          Thanks Obe! I lurked here reading nearly everything for quite some time before getting active on the comments. When the fukushima reactors initially exploded and I saw the very brief images on the nightly news for one minute I was puzzled about the official news explanation about the cause of all of these reactor being blown apart. I wondered, "what would cause so much hydrogen gas to be generated where it destroys the entire building structure?" I called my father who was a reactor tech on a USN nuclear submarine. He explained that the hydrogen gas is generated when the fuel rod cladding oxidizes in the presence of water or steam. Oxidize means "intense fire" in this case. He said that even if the uranium fuel pellets inside the zirconium rods were not already melted when the zirc fire began then they are 100% certain to melt at least partially once the zirconium oxidation fire kicks off. He had zero information about Fukushima meltdowns when the SHTF back in March of 2011. He had not even seen the brief news footage on TV that I saw. He told me it was an absolute certainty that there was a very serious release of radiation if such large explosions occurred. That is what began my questioning about the MSM explanation of Fukushima nuclear catastrophe. Then my flowers and weeds were very noticeably mutated that spring. On 3.17.11, 3.18.11 or 3.19.11 there was a military Blackhawk helicopter which was systematically flying slowly along low altitude grid lines…

          • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

            back and forth above my neighborhood in north Seattle. It was definitely NOT a police or news helicopter. It was all matte black and it moved about slowly. It was loud. I came out of my house and watched it methodically moving along linear flight paths all around my neighborhood. It was just barely sprinkling just a bit of rain. Typical Seattle late winter weather. I might have gotten hit by 2 dozen rain drops at most. One drop hit my glasses and left a semi-permanent etching mark that refused to be polished or cleaned away for years. Another drop hit the skin on my cheek and I developed an unusual red spot that I still carry to this day. One rain drop. I read here how Terri in NE WA or Ontological got a super rare skull cancer after getting Fuku rain fallout on her. Why did our all powerful government not warn us about the radioactive fallout?? We know the EPA, NRC, DOD, and especially DOE knew all about the massive quantities of radioactive fallout raining down on us. FOIA docs exposed by Hatrick Penry and others prove this point. These people will burn in Hell for their murderous silence

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              BanReactorsForever, Onto had skull cancer. Teri has had her share of issues, too. But I'll let her speak for herself.

              I developed squamous cell carcinoma on my nose about a year after 3/11. Being unaware of the ongoing releases and plumes after April, 2011, I spent a lot of time outdoors, gardening.

              Some rainwater splattered on my face; I suspect it is linked to the skin cancer. My hands are scarred from what I believe are radiation burns. Large purpura appear periodically on my thumbs and the top of my hands. My opinion is these were caused by radioactively hot water splashing on my hands.

              There were a lot of other things that went wrong with my body after 3/11. After four years of chelation therapy and detoxing on an ongoing basis, I'm feeling much better.

              But as many others here have expressed, I have to wonder about what might be latent in my body, especially a particular spot in my right lung that felt wunky for a long time after 3/11.

              As it has been said here many times before, "We're all downwinders."

              Many cancer survivors here, too. Mine was nothing compared to what many others have been through.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Teri might have had jaw cancer too. I'm not sure, and I don't want to presume to know. She mentioned something to that effect recently.

                She, Onto, Dan, Gasser, Cosmic Charlie, Praising the Truth (Anne), and many others have survived cancers they believe are related to nuclear accidents.

                Now the expert-textperts are warning us 33% to 50% of the population can expect to develop some form of cancer during one's life.

                Just peachy.

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  I miss Ex Dr. Fox. He developed a nodule in his lung shortly after 3/11. Sadly, he left the site, and I don't know what became of him. He had a great blog site discussing unusual animal mortality events. Hope he's doing well. He lived in or near the Seattle area.

                • No cancer Ho…just extreme bone loss from the hits of strontium when I was low on calcium and stressed. Like, I went from 118 lbs or so to 87lbs during 2011-2012. (I'm about 4'10" now but was 5'2" as a young woman.) I always helped others with nutrition info and good food through the decades but sort of ignored my own since I always had tons of energy and stamina, lol. (Coffee…big fat adrenal glands no doubt.) Still having a hard time getting weight back. Bone, synovial fluids, etc don't rebuild new cells very fast when they get that messed up.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    Hola Teri. I went from about 126 lbs. in 2011 to 103 early in 2014. (More like the proper weight for a young person who is about 5 feet tall.)

                    Was literally starving to death. My body wouldn't absorb nutrients properly, and I nearly died.

                    The dentist I went to said my teeth were demineralized. Apparently my bones were, too, because I developed spinal stenosis, and showed all kinds of malabsorption problems on Genova Diagnostics and Metametrix screening labs.

                    The fatigue, weight loss, and malaise all started just after 3/11.

                    Had to get treated with high dose vitamins and amino acids for about a year, and get treatment for MTHFR defect. IMO the Fuky Effect showed up as all kinds of metabolic issues and nutritional deficiencies. One of my teeth feel apart.

                    Sounds like a lot of us took a hit. Hope you're feeling better now. Yeah, the adrenal fatigue can getcha. Have been in and out of adrenal fatigue for the past 10 years or so …. Lyme disease caused my adrenal issues.

                    Am pretty healthy today, but have to watch out for the adrenal issues. It's a struggle to keep weight on. Taking high dose L-Methyl folate has done wonders ….

                    Many of the medical articles discuss damage to the epithelial cells in the digestive tract, from radiation exposure. Am wondering how many of us got hit like that.

                    Sorry to hear of your health problems. Thanks for setting the record straight.

              • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

                No cancer. Multifocal Motor Neuropathy. I spend one day a week in ambulatory infusion. I cannot believe all the young people in there. Anyway, they were pretty certain I had ALS but one neurologist took a closer look and weekly IVIG infusions have nearly restored me. Costs $11k a week, more than $500k a year.

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  cosmic charlie, sorry, maybe I have you confused with Gasser because of the motorcycle picture. But it sounds like you had some serious issues, too. Long term medical treatment is such an ordeal.

                  Have you been screened for Lyme disease? That can look a lot like other neurological issues.

                  Hope you're doing better now. I had chronic Lyme disease and two other tick-borne co-infections, i.e., the "tragic triad," but overcame after almost nine years of treatment. I feel for you.

                  Had to go for Bicillin injections for 14 months to get the Lyme under control. Seriously, if they don't know what has caused the neurological problems, please consider having a Lyme screening — the full Western Blot test, or a PCR test. There are newer, better tests, but I don't know the names.

                  A sante, be well. Do you think your issue was related to Fukushima or radiation exposure? Just curious.

              • if useful, here's a general recipe for the salve that got rid of the pre-cancer skin thin my love had on the top of his head — took about two weeks — mostly chapparal oil (homemade, strong but still an infusion) with thuja cedar, neem, and a little oregano — topical only, put it on, covered with a little powdered chapparal (which stuck to it, esp. open areas) and a bandage. when it came off, the ugly thing that had recently changed color and grown fast and irregularly all of a sudden fell off with it. used to be a normal small mole.

                he was out in the rain that wednesday after the big explosion. it rained here, but he had a moving job. i remember trying to cover up when i had to go out, because of what i knew. no one wanted to listen; or rather, no one wanted to admit they were scared.

              • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

                The lung and skin cancers are my greatest concern after the Fuku nuclear fallout hit us. I like the advice from Female Faust re natural cancer preventions. I will try that!

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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        banreactorsforever, the nukists' answer to the problem of nuclear waste is breeder reactors.

        Yippee! More and more Plutonium!

        • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

          Breeders don't even eliminate the worst isotopes like cesium, strontium and plutonium. As you point out breeder reactors actually produce MORE PLUTONIUM! Nuclear insanity!

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        quote BanReactorsForever : "What other business has this much risk? What other business has ZERO liability??"

        Hmm dunno , the business of letting the military-industrial complex dictate politics ?

        Oh wait..

  • Jebus Jebus

    They each use 60 million gallons of water a day.

    They are all sitting on the seashore or a large body of water.

    Not to mention the fault line requirement.

    And the quote's from the NRC are, "Current models do not address aqueous release pathways", "We’re just starting right now to do some work in that area.", and, "Are there containment failure modes — that could occur below grade, you might say"…

    WTF? GMI at it's finest…

  • We Not They Finally

    These reports seem to be from 2013. Maybe (wouldn't be surprised,) they are just hard for the public to get hold of. If so (as usual,) kudos to admin.

    Then again, they ARE from 2013, two years back, and certainly there is no public news coverage of such. And what about the reports being done currently? This is the Nuclear REGULATORY Commission, yet what kind of "regulation" is there when new NPP's are being approved and no one's saying hey, guys, our last little experiment was post-catastrophic?

    • I have to acknowledge I have a strong tendency toward new news, tho I do do the "flashback" tweets… (search way back my tweets 4 "lost" news) … there are many news articles dating back… before and after 2011 which are supremely important to the dialog. I have many such references in mynowarnow2011 tweets and docs in my email. Others do, too. They are vital to current dialog. Do not forget historic record showing lack of due diligence, lessons taught yet not learned, and nuclear physics research bombs … Sandia, Idaho Nat Lab, WIPP, LANL MOX, Berkeley, CB&I Areva MOX Services (S. Carolina) et al. libraries & archives – all applicable… many proof of concept failures.. and universities supporting nuclear ambitions – FOIA them! time to go straight to the achillles heal… security med law

      • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

        I remember way back in the early 80's the alternative press was sounding the alarm bells about corporate control of the media. They were right. At least we have the internet – trolls not with standing.

  • curly

    "the expectation is, we'll get a better feel for what the safety concern is with that, and whether any further action is needed." Sound's very clinical and a little nonchalant. This melt down is a great way to collect data on what's going to happen now. So much knowledge to be gained. We'll be all the wiser when the other npps go through the floor. Somebody help us.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Curly, have you looked at a cutaway diagram of a Boiling Water Reactor?

      The bottom of the reactor vessel is full of holes. That's where the control rods go. If they are not in place, guess where the fuel goes?

      Some bright individual here pointed that out awhile ago.

      Here's a diagram so you can see what I'm referring to:

      Courtesy of the NRC. The other important thing to remember is there have been DOE studies on the rate at which corium can burn through concrete.

      We all know that happened within a matter of hours or days.

      So all the talk above is just a lot of blah, blah, blah, some day we'll pretend to figure it out. Just don't go and figure it out on your own, people. We're the expert-textperts, here.

        • ISPC

          Yes. HoTaters. There are many studies on melt-through rates of corium on steel and concrete. An early study I read, but cannot find today, had the rate at 12 inches per 24 hours.

          It doesn't take long at all to melt through steel and concrete.

          Here is a little I found on Wiki:

          "In reality, under a complete loss of coolant scenario, the fast erosion phase of the concrete basement lasts for about an hour and progresses into about one meter depth, then slows to several centimeters per hour, and stops completely when the corium melt cools below the decomposition temperature of concrete (about 1100 °C). Complete melt-through can occur in several days, even through several meters of concrete; the corium then penetrates several meters into the underlying soil, spreads around, cools, and solidifies.[34]"

          Can Corium Melt Through Concrete? No problemo!

          We gotta' shut 'em all down.

          Nothing Nuclear except the Clean Up.


        • Ho, your first link is very interesting! The teacher's lesson plan includes this choice lie right at the get go. "Greeting…blah, blah, blah… There is something I want all of you to be aware of: The purpose of a nuclear power plant is to produce electricity."

          Gosh, I can't wait to read the personal dose section.

          • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

            Hi Teri!
            Pardon my sensitive inquiry. Please ignore my question if you do not want to discuss this topic. Did you get cancer after Fukushima? I recall one of the regulars here developed a super rare skull cancer from getting Fuku rain on them back in March of 2011. I took some rain drops as well while going outside in Seattle back in the week after 3.11.11. Not cool…
            Best of Health,

            • No problem BRF, no…my stuff was a sudden uptick in bone loss…teeth loosening and jaw shrinkage. Ankle, knees, lower back stuff. I do lots of supplements, OG food and liposomalC, Cal-mag, etc.

              Had I known how radiated this planet was even before before 3-11-11, I would have done all the extra bone strengthening stuff much sooner. Fukushima made me slow my pace drastically way before I was planning on it. 🙂 I worked my body hard as an artist/DIY, off grid person and got away with it for a long time though.

              Ontological went through hell with the skull cancer. Anne Beck too I think.

              Wishing you good health too BRF…

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Great call, Teri. Oh, yes, Atoms for Peace, I almost forgot, civilian power ….


    Really, gov? That's as far as you got? It's in the ground, maybe even on its way to the core. It is still fissioning, as evidenced by fallout detection in Finland, Sweden and Norway this spring. Just put up another blog post: "How does it taste, Alaska? Metallic?"

    !-> @

    "There never was a “cold shutdown”. There’s at least one mini-sun sinking into the earth, perhaps on its way to our lovely planet’s core… Who knows how that will affect the magnetosphere… This is just the very beginning of a catastrophe that could go on for many centuries. Please, someone, proof me wrong: Tell me exactly where the Nb-95 + Cs-134 + Co-60 + I-131 detected in Finland came from."

    – MVB

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      That's all they got.. 🙁

    • We Not They Finally

      Speaking about huge dangerous energy dumps into the Earth: the CERN Hadron Collider in Switzerland apparently did a massive energy dump (= 1/4 the world energy) into the ground the exact same minute that "by coincidence" there was the massive earthquake in Nepal. CERN apparently involves frightening giant magnets in some lunatic attempt to recreate "The Big Bang." If it DOES cause earthquakes (either that or it's just an alarming " exact-to-the-minute "coincidence",) imagine an intersection between the monstrous energy from CERN and meltdowns around earthquake faults in Japan. Or rather DON'T imagine — that's sort of terrifying. A lot of people have been looking at CERN hugely dismayed (one is Stephen Hawking.) It's really not worth destroying the world in the name of science.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Its not all they got, its rather all they admit. Note how science is so bright when they are working at it, but so dumb when an accident threatens business? Compare what they say in 2015, using supercomputers and 50 years of study to what they knew in 1961 using slide rules;

      Fukushima 2015; "How did it leak out? We don’t know” "it was because most likely perhaps containment failure"

      SL-1 accident forensics in 1961

      They examined scratches on the central control rod. Using this data, they concluded that the central rod had been withdrawn 66.7 cm. The reactor would have been critical at 58.4 cm and it took approximately 100 ms for the rod to travel the final 8.3 cm.

      the reactivity addition was sufficient to take the reactor prompt critical within a time estimated at 3.6 milliseconds leading to
      the core heating and vaporization process which happened in about 7.5 milliseconds

      the 12,000 kg vessel then jumped 9 feet 1 inch from a water hammer reaction. The only thing that took them a little while to notice is that one of the operators was pinned to the ceiling through his groin.

      • MVB MVB

        CodeShutdown – Right. They're just concealing what they know, following a tight line of keeping what they know separate from what they want people to think they know. 4 years… somewhere in some Sandia lab department they know where the cores are and how dire the situation is.

        In "Land of the Sinking Sun…" I just put a couple things together, very basic, and it's obvious that one or several coriums sunk deep down below the foundation…

        "WIRED magazine, April 18, 2013: The Most Dangerous (Man-Made) Lava Flow: “[…] researchers at the Argonne National Lab have created corium in the laboratory […] They found that corium lava can melt upwards of 30 cm (12″) of concrete in 1 hour! […]”

        If nothing slowed it down, that means 7 meters per day… 2628 meters per year… 10 km in 4 years… Now, of course, as the molten cores cool in the groundwater-inundated soil, they won’t melt through the ground very fast. Most likely they got stuck relatively early on. To what depth did they sink is yet to be revealed…"


        We have the right to know.

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    What are the consequences of aqueous release??? Really?
    Well, how about the death of the Pacific Ocean?
    …or any water way that has nuclear fuel in it, or nuclear power plant on it!!!

    Now of course, add the loss of oxygen to the planet with the loss of planktons.

    How about the addition of radiation to our rain cycle, raining down radiation all across the globe, changing or killing species after species, ultimately bio-concentrating up the food chain.(this means we humans will be included in the mutations and death)

    Will humans still have thumbs in future generations? Eyes? Noses? 5 legs? This is our future thanks to the nuke cabal. Shut them down! No nukes! Pro-nuke = anti-life!!!!

  • Finally, ZeroHedge picking up on this. Washingtons Blog (which often gets picked up on ZH) has done a lot of good articles, but nothing on the death of the Pacific.

    The original source is

  • Well the release of a documentary "Fukushima Heart" is going to shock the poop out of the masses in North America. I will be watching for that one for sure. Just a matter of time now. the seeds are sown and the crop of deformed and dead babies is going to be some show. No Mr Nice Guy with this new flick. In your face IN PUBLIC TWENTY FIVE FEET DIAGONAL + 2000 watts for as long as it takes. (I have 2 5000+ hour lamps) So lets hope the producers really get those gore shots right.

    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      It may take shocking images of what nuclear does to our health in order to jolt people out of their zombie consumerist Facebook trance. Whatever it takes to get this ship headed in the right direction!

      • The FaceBook Zombie and the DumbPhone user are going to sure bemoan the loss of their toys and diversions. once the bannock drops into the fire a whole lot of stupid is going to flow into the streets to regain their nappy place to find only reality staring back at them… Then the imagery will be forced into their reality set. Forced into the crowd with enough detail to END a whole plethora of lies and untruths this world has been built upon. Any one not ready to see truth is going to be ground under the FIX and shall become lube for the willing to move the load into the future of OUR planet.

  • Now they are baiting us with atmospheric release data, and hiding behind it as to the extent of a sea water release. When they begin admitting to both, is when things will get even darker politically…

    This list basically will tell you the extent of the sea water damage done to life forms. Note the many additions since the last time I posted this list around or on May 12th 2015:

    From the rather informative pdf in the report:

    Site flooding initiated “Station Blackout”
    Diesel as generators flooded and fuel tanks were swept away.

     Zr oxidation produces hydrogen and high gas temperature.

     Cycling SRV vents hot gas through steam line and into suppression pool.

     High RPV pressure ruptures weakened steam line.

     TEPCO favors gasket blowout theory.

     SRV failure by seizing open is a completely plausible alternative.

    Decay heat liberates water from concrete.

    Metals (Zr and steel) oxidize and produce H2 and CO.

    Exothermic energy from chemical reactions result.


    When will these TEPCO 'experts' get on the same page as those of us who expected this outcome day one?

  • Old stuff. Everyone knows that Fukushima is the worst car crash in history.

    Bye, bye human race, but in the meantime here's a live performance of one of Au Revoir Simone's latest pieces, called 'Like a Tree'…

  • Nuclear Power Plant Studies Show Child Leukemia, Breast, Thyroid Cancer Rates Increase RADICALLY Closer To Plants; via @AGreenRoad

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Life on earth thrived for millions of years while constantly exposed to over 2 millisieverts of "natural" radiation exposure but is mutated, sickened and killed when an additional .005 mSv to .02 mSv (from bomb tests and living next to power plants) of manmade radiation is added. Science is ONLY NOW starting to understand why. The nuclear cabal won, thus the earth was lost


      The last 20 years have seen a major paradigm shift in radiation biology. Several discoveries challenge the DNA centric view which holds that DNA damage is the critical effect of radiation irrespective of dose. This theory leads to the assumption that dose and effect are simply linked – the more energy deposition, the more DNA damage and the greater the biological effect. it is now clear that at low doses of concern in radiation protection, cells, tissues and organisms respond to radiation by inducing responses which are not readily predictable by dose. These include adaptive responses, bystander effects, genomic instability and low dose hypersensitivity, …meaning that dose and response are not simply related. Radiation protection, at present, only looks at radiation dose but the new radiobiology means that chemical or physical agents, which interfere with tissue responses to low doses of radiation, could critically modulate the predicted risk.

      • We Not They Finally

        Yes, and much worse: Most estimates are based on effects on healthy adult males and/or so-called evenly spread across the body. Females (more radiosensitive than males,) much less children and pregnant women and/or the elderly or those in already-compromised health, are not even factored in. Or that various radionuclides aggregate in specific parts of the body. It's a totally skewed system to start with. And OF COURSE responses to doses vary widely across the population. It is astounding what is NOT factored in.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Nice! 🙂

  • Here have a look at what happens when corium flows over bedrock…

    3 Photos… Thousands upon thousands of words.

    And this is done with burning U-238.

    • The real reason the site is a water feature now.

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      From the interview "We now have ways to get depleted uranium to go very critical. Anything is possible."

      • Anything over 189 degrees and the stuff lights off to 5600 degrees until consumption. The reason A-10 ammo has to be stored in Air Conditioned lockers in the desert. Look it up.

        • Could tons of A10 type of DU ammo light up and then fission?

          Former IAEA Inspector And Nuclear Physicist Says Neutron/Nuclear Bomb Went Off In Yemen

          • Not fission. The A-10 ammo and the DU in Artillery rounds is known as a pyrophoric material,(Finely divided metals) (bismuth, calcium, hafnium, iron, magnesium, titanium, uranium, zirconium) Al, Co, Fe, Mg, Mn, Pd, Pt, Ti, Sn, Zn, Zr)

            A U-238 round fired will reach cook off temp a very short time after being fired from air friction and will keep on burning until it is either consumed or soaked off from going through dirt or other cooling substance but will cook through ANY tank armour before being soaked off hence it's use as a tank killer. Once heated a mass of U-238 is just as nasty as enriched uranium and i think the rates of heat are similar to each other. The products are notoriously hard to test for unless you look for the right products. Gamma mostly.
            and various oxides of U. Having looked at it for some time the only fuel with enough mass to sustain fires under the towers debris is Uranium. The Tuned Mass Dampers were i think filled with this element to the tune of 600 to 800 Tons each tower. Two seperate masses each tower. Pre demo blasts and a shaped charge to transfer the granulated pellets into the basements and a bit of heat (Thermate) and you have the resultant 80 day long fires. A quick shot from a directed energy weapon over the site to clean up any surface remnants and you are done.

            • So what does setting off tons of pyrophoric DU with a 500 to 1000 pound bomb look like?

              • Look like? Very orange/yellow flare, more of a slow burn as opposed to a blast. Heat and light mostly with a plume of grey/white as i have read. Have a look at a A-10 at work and you will see. Under all that debris of the towers all you would see is the smoke.

                • Almost everybody that worked that pile of rubble is dead. I am telling you the cause THEY will not. I know it's true because of the beating my life took after i started to sound off about the fuel to sustain a fire of 80 days duration without added fuel or oxidizers.

                  • Definitely the planes had plenty of DU aboard, as counter weights.

                    Start there…

                    Now add more if your theory is correct, and we have a major FUBAR.

                    Wouldn't downtown NYC still be contaminated?

                    • An aircraft has a very small amount if any. perhaps 1000 lbs in counter weighting. And Yes every square inch the fallout from those fires fell. Again unless you are doing very expensive tests at a limited number of labs AND you know what you are looking for AND you have the o.k. to do said test would you even know. Your first clue is the fire Dogs… they all died very quickly. All of them 100% mortality.

                      If you pulled this and you had control of those labs i bet you would not be looking too hard at the proof of your guilt..No?

              • Wyakin Wyakin

                Alan-thank you for the graphics and narrative explanation.

                Veterans of the Gulf Wars I know had similar stories to tell. Unfortunately several passed due to illness or are chronically ill. Internalized uranium is a primary culprit.

                Let me share a few thoughts about the mechanics of these terrible weapons.

                In early 2012, I asked the question here on ENE “Can anyone tell me the benefits of using D-38?” The pleasurable sound of a field of crickets.

                DU was measured in the atmosphere in Britain, transported on air currents from the Middle East and Central Asia. Scientists cited the U.S. bombing of Tora Bora, Afghanistan in 2001 during Gulf War II in Iraq in 2003 as one of the main reasons. Birth defects in Fallujah are now widespread.

                New sociopath goodies much more toxic. Nano-Enhanced Kinetic Energy Projectiles, tailored to be effective over a range of temperatures and pressures that correspond to different impact velocities, or to vaporize and/or create gas expansion during the target penetration process.

                Release of oxygen from the oxide to further react with the high-temperature target and penetrator material. Impact process initiates mixing followed by a highly exothermic reaction. Material behaves as a reactive material after impact. It’s all about adiabatic shear (AS) localization and failure.

                • Wyakin Wyakin

                  High rate deformation causes thermal heat softening mechanisms within the penetrator material to compete and eventually overcome the material's hardening mechanisms. The plastic deformation can become unstable and the deformation can tend to focus into the plastic localisations known as AS bands.

                  Shear bands provide a mechanism by which the DU penetrator can rapidly discard the deforming material at its head. This “self sharpening” behavior allows a DU penetrator to displace a narrower but deeper penetration tunnel.


                  Kinetic energy dispersion from radiological weapons release is significant, long lived, and easily transported via toxic long lived radioactive nano particles into living organisms.

                  NPP emissions and waste are toxic as are the military wastes imposed on the world’s populace by those "protecting" national interests.

            • Could DU be made to go prompt critical through high temp, pressure and huge mass of it all together?

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Yes, Alan, pools of molten metal in the underground craters. It remained lava-like for weeks.

              And the name of the landfill…. Eeeeew.

              Met the "last man standing" once, years ago. What a story he had to tell ….

          • Have a look at what happened to the white STEEL ammo magazines at Camp Falcon after a few lucky mortar rounds did in the cooling units.


            After one started to burn the whole gathering of ammo mags. went up. A real nasty fire. The black areas were charge and conventional ammo mags, The white and grey lockers that are melted in are the DU storage units with AC units.

            • Here is the early days of the event


              Ol Tommy boy Mr Sullivan became the gatekeeper and kicked me off WUFYS over all this.

              • I even went to the Global Discussions area and started a 'Ask the expert' post with a puzzle with all the details to get a respons from their so called experts… Two months later the WHOLE GD part of Russia Insider was deleted. Even the craws in the wayback machine were expunged. Oh yeah i know it's the real deal. Seen too much to think otherwise. And not one other explanation for those fires has ever been posted, Micro-nukes and all that baloney Ed Ward and others have been spouting. Not Thermate,Thermite Namno-Thermate nothing has even come close to the U-238 theory. Try this Try to find ANY info about the Tuned Mass Dampers the twin towers both had installed(The single most important system to make the towers usable) and i bet you come up all ZEROS.

          • Wyakin Wyakin

            No. Fissile vs. Fissionable

            Uranium-235 fissions with low-energy thermal neutrons because the binding energy resulting from the absorption of a neutron is greater than the critical energy required for fission; therefore uranium-235 is a fissile material.

            In contrast, the binding energy released by uranium-238 absorbing a thermal neutron is less than the critical energy, so the neutron must possess additional energy for fission to be possible. Consequently, uranium-238 is a fissionable material but not a fissile material.

            An alternative definition defines fissile nuclides as those nuclides that can be made to undergo nuclear fission (i.e., are fissionable) and also produce neutrons from such fission that can sustain a nuclear chain reaction in the correct setting. Under this definition, the only nuclides that are fissionable are those nuclides that can be made to undergo nuclear fission but produce insufficient neutrons, in either energy or number, to sustain a nuclear chain reaction.

            As such, while all fissile isotopes are fissionable, not all fissionable isotopes are fissile.


    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Love Zen and the video is gone..

  • 😐

    "And the question is, how does that [radioactive contaminated] water behave once it’s released?"
    – Brian Sheron

    The question is a little bit late.

    The answer is right in front of them. It spreads and accumulates as it DESTROYS LIFE via DNA destruction.

  • ISPC

    Yes. President Obama, March 17th, 2011

    "I want to be very clear: We do not expect harmful levels of radiation to reach the U.S., whether it's the west coast, Hawaii, Alaska, or the U.S. territories in the Pacific," Obama said in the Rose Garden."

    "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health experts do not recommend people in the U.S. take precautionary measures beyond staying informed," Obama said. "Going forward we will continue to keep the American people fully updated because I believe you must know what I know as president."

    "Because of the strength and wisdom of its people, we know that Japan will recover and indeed will emerge stronger than ever. And as it recovers, the memory of those who have been lost will remain in our hearts, and will serve only to strengthen the friendship between our two countries. May God Bless the people of Japan."

    Radiation is a Disease? Exactly which Public Health Experts?

    All my friend's in America are sick, dying or dead.

    It's a hell of a way to stay informed.

    In light of the out of containment meltdowns and thermonuclear detonations, and these "new" admissions by the NRC, maybe "we" should inform the public now.

    I feel like a test case on how many lies, and how much obfuscation from TPTB, an intelligent person can tolerate before joining the crowd at the GMI Mall…

  • bo bo

    On May 22nd, 29 Suma fish ( apparently similar to tuna ) were placed into that Tokyo aquarium tank that killed off all the tuna (still one tuna remain ). 5 days later, 11 Suma fish were already dead w/skull & spine fractures.

    Now of course I tend to think radiation has something to do with it but starting to get curious what is it about this specific tank ( and not the other tanks) that kills off the fish in the aquarium…?

    • Maybe it is not what is in the tank, but what is in the fish, and the food they are being fed.

      If the feed for these tuna is coming from Tokyo bay, it does not look good.

      Burning radioactive waste all over Japan may be starting to bear some bitter harvests, and the tuna may be the first of many signs of the wormwood to come.

      • It took many months for the previous tuna to have a mass die off.

        The new fish in the tank died in a week, a mass die off happened much faster.

        It may be a sign that bad things are spiraling out of control in Japan, in ways not imagined or seen before, due to Fuku.

        Of course, it could be a simple fungus among us and easily solved.. Let's hope it is that..

      • bo bo

        But that's the thing, they all have fractures, so people immediately think Strontium ( I did too ) but after FIVE days? Does strontium affect so fast, after several meals?

        I definitely don't buy their 'we found virus' story from a few months back. They said they found 'a virus' but never followed up 'which virus'

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingTruth

          Where do you get 5 days of strontium 90 exposure? We've been inundated with strontium 90 for the last 70 years. And it is accumulating more and more exponentially for that last 70 years. And Fukushima 1000s of times worse than Chernobyl. Yes, strontium 90 destroys the bones in 4 years. 4 years and 2 months since Fukushima, not 5 days. And it has been raining out and snowing out from the air from Fukushima starting 4 years and 2 months ago.

        • bo bo

          The reason why I bother is because I wonder if someobe persisted on the specifics of this tank, it might also hold some key to solving the specifics of sea life death in Pacific, just an ambitious thought.

          Yes, it's radiation most likely, but how, which radiation, how is it affecting them? Everybody said strontium/ bones but maybe neurological, like code says.

          I know, the whole world is ending so what do I care? I dunno. I care. I'm curious to know these details.

    • bo bo

      I'm going to repost rogerthat's link from fuku diary and codeshutdown's hypothesis here ( just found in another thread ) in case anybody might want to chip into the mystery

      Code said:
      The fish seem to be running into the glass. Their lateral line nervous system may be compromised. Iodine deficiency is one possible cause of that. Maybe electrical fields, or something that frightens the fish may cause them to run into the glass. Do they use local sea water for the aquarium? It has radioactive heavy metals which will affect the nervous system

      • from a distance from a distance

        I think it was Yoshi Shimatsu who theorized it's Tritium in the aquarium water causing the problems…as Tritium can't be filtered out.

        • from a distance from a distance

          Here's some interesting info on Tritium

          @3:55 Leuren Moret discusses TRITIUM

          – Tritium as a gas is dangerous, but it's the least dangerous form of Tritium

          – Tritium attached to water is 25,000 times as bad as gas

          – Tritium attached to a protein is 125,000 times worse than gas, biologically

          – Tritium has a very long biological half life

          – Tritium causes infertility

          • melting mermaid melting mermaid

            When they use all that water to cool. I know it heats it up, but does it also tritiate all that water or are there just rare tritium leaks? Enormous amounts of water go through npps, probably all of it, if you think about it. If so then we're already fubar.

          • bo bo

            Thanks from a distance, that's really interesting

            • If weak strontium/tritium/cesium laced fish are put in the tank, and the run into the glass, or have other stresses that they do not get in Nature, they break and die.

              Pretty simple.

              • Without getting actual TUNA samples and testing them yourself there is no way anyone will ever find out.

                Guesses mostly.

                Educated guesses at best.

                Anyone want to buy some tuna from japan and then test it?

              • bo bo

                Yes but just wondering why then in just the tuna tank ?
                And supposedly they didn't have this problem of fish crashing into acrylic panels before. You might be right maybe cuz tuna/ bigger fish is the accumulator…but just some thoughts.

  • razzz razzz

    These 'experts' spend to much time in the office. Normally I would suggest they go take a look at the site and see for themselves what happened but that would be certain death so a model is needed to rely on. Of course there was no existing model because of the arrogance of designers thought that a nuke plant could never melt-out. Blowup yes (due to hydrogen buildup) but not flow freely into the environment. Containment was to prevent that from happening. Tracking radioactive water is not a problem. Figuring out its flow path from the melts might be.

    • Wyakin Wyakin

      "I would suggest they go take a look at the site and see for themselves what happened but that would be certain death so a model is needed to rely on."

      Great suggestion. However, the threat of death inspires many to think productively in a creative manner.

      I'll include a performance related suggestion in my next email to Immelt and Roderick about the need the have realistic and meaningful goals and the consequences of engineering failures in the performance reviews of their engineers.

      I'll also add something about the need to improve the shitty warrantees on NPPs and CC Obama and Uhh, whats her name? Vince Foster's lover? Sorry, I apologize to anyone who might be offended, as long as we can keep all of our skeletons in the closet, its all good.

  • dosdos dosdos

    We saw the steam seeping out of the ground back in 2011. Four years to get to this conclusion?

  • dosdos dosdos

    Mount Shindake on the island of Kuchinoerabujima in southern Japan erupted a day after the NRA gave Sendai the final go ahead to start up. Don't forget, Sendai sits close to Mt Ontake, which is another active volcano in the same chain as Mt Shindake.

    Will they take the omen from nature and reconsider starting up the reactors? Yeah, right.

    • razzz razzz

      The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        They are not doing the same thing over and expecting different results. They expect the same thing. It's the ninety nine percent who do not do anything about the one percent and expect different results. The one percent are stupid.

  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    The experts wondering how water "seepage" may have happened they can watch the thing go kablooee! The rest just use your imagination!

  • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

    After initial releases from Fukushima, the biosphere's lethal doses of plutonium jumped to 7000 billion. And this is just plutonium. And the releases are ongoing and worsening for a couple hundred years.

    I believe this burden of savage radionuclides has crosed a threshold for living things. Nothing can escape it, down to the smallest microbes. And when we consider that what has been released in less than a century is now just a fraction of what we have created and haphazardly stored, well, it just seems hopeless.

    The evil fools who have done this will suffer along with the innocent.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      When the one percent paid the scientists to keep their mouths shut, they sure got their money's worth.

      Yes, man. Yassah massah. Yes man. I'm your yes man.

      Tell me the TRUTH now Godammit, am I going to die?

      Yes, man. Yassah massah. Yes man. I'm your yes man.

      No, really? Yes. Really? It must be frustrating to get everything you ask for. Us poor folks don't realize the burden of the rich.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "US Gov’t: Melted fuel most likely burned through containment at Fukushima reactors; We’re concerned about failures[…]"

    Ya think?

    Fuckin taxpayer dollars at work. A dollar ain't what it used to be.

  • Nick

    "A month ago, Kazakhstan was home to 250,000 saigas. The population was considered a conservation success story. Now, the United Nations has confirmed that 120,000 saigas are dead, and the number may continue to rise.

    Biologist EJ Milner-Gulland told The Guardian that the evidence points to a highly contagious disease. The U.N. statement said the bacteria Pasteurella and Clostridia are contributing to the die-off. But both bacteria are opportunistic, meaning they only kill animals with weakened immune systems."

    Guess what folks, in the event that you have been asleep at the helm, weakened immune systems is a red-flag warning.

    Our modern medical paradigm discusses disease as if the disease is the culprit, rather than the organism's overall health, which includes a robust immune system.

    Then there is the rapid-mutation effect of simpler organisms as they respond to radiation stress; these then in turn can infect other "higher" organisms that aren't properly prepared to ward off (the immune response) or are simply overwhelmed by toxins excreted directly by the "simpler" virus/bacteria/fungii, etc.

    I am 100% positive that the entire planet has suffered a blow of, quite frankly, historic proportions.

    Aqueous discharges not withstanding.

  • Sol Man

    Everything is working together so that the inertia and gravity affecting the world's living entities only becomes more efficient accomplishing the goals of those that designed the Programs.

    More becquerels and toxins are being applied at every level. I don't know when the love of life, family and a sound future for our progeny changed; but, considering the circumstances, we must decide to live a good life and pull very close those that you hold dear.

    Some may find the analects of Confucius an interesting review at any time.

  • Gene Wilder: "you don't say" (WARNING: ASCII ART ATTEMPT)


  • Nick

    Okay, we know animals are how about stuff like this?

    Mysterious infections will popcorn the planet at an ever more increasing rate.

    Biological Chaos.

    Coming to the Home Planet.

    Thanks nuclear (and other toxic industrial crap let loose in the biosphere).

    Thanks for the memories of a future we once all had.

  • Nick

    As a child I learned to be absolutely horrified about nuclear accidents, I knew on a visceral level that our biosphere can only handle so much awol man-made radiation.

    This was BEFORE TMI, B4 Chernobyl, Beefour Fukushima.

    Now it is 2015 and I shake my head daily in an "I told you so" mindset.

    Numbskulls have made us all numb.

    This should be TATALly obvious by now.

    Ponder this:

    The nuclear- industrial- think- they- had- everything- under- control
    folks never developed computer risk-assessment models that "allowed" for the once in a billion type of catastrophic failure that occurred at Fukushima.

    We are truly in uncharted waters. The problem is, we are ALL in the same boat.

    Only those with resilient genes will survive to see grandchildren that may never be born.


  • Nick


    "By treating the inflammatory symptoms of depression — rather than the neurological ones — researchers and doctors are opening up an exciting new dimension in the fight against what has become a global epidemic."

    Global epidemic.

    People's brains are being inflamed by radiation and other enviro-toxins.

    Who woulda thunk it?

    Lest folks think my GMI rants are not founded in science!

  • Nick

    It is quite possible that global food supplies will diminish despite the billions of toxins dumped on crops everywhere, despite the latest gene insertion techniques to create franken-plants and animals for human consumption and for textiles.

    Soon you will see a growing trend TO NOT WASTE FOOD.

    Now shiver, as you contemplate that food wastage shame will become mainstream as real world food supplies diminish.

    This has nothing to do with carrying capacity of our ecosphere, it is an indication on fouling the nest.

    Fukushima needs an immediate, global, no holds barred response to stem some of the awol fission piles bubbling and hissing underground and flushing into the Pacific.

    We don't need more studies to see what's happening.

    We need action.

    Come on social media, kick in a bit of outrage over this.

    Not tomorrow. Now.

  • Nick

    Tell me again why the DoD is shipping this shit, let alone playing with it?

    As if we didn't have enough toxins already!

    The cavalier attitude about bioweapons research is an indication that the same folks don't give a rats ass about a wee bit o rads oozing 24/7/365/till our sun becomes a red giant!

  • Nick

    "Test facilities like Dugway are intended to develop ways to defend against biochemical warfare, which some fear could be used by terrorists, said Barry M. Blechman, co-founder of the Stimson Center, a nonpartisan global security group in Washington.
    He doesn't know why they were sending anthrax and is perplexed at how they mistakenly sent live strains of anthrax.
    "This is an accident that should never happen," Blechman said. "You should have double-triple-positive controls over any live, lethal agent."



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