Gov’t Report: Criticality suspected to have occurred in Fukushima fuel pool — Nuclear chain reaction after massive explosion at Unit 3 compressed fuel together? Concerned about ‘substantial damage’ to fuel (VIDEO)

Published: July 4th, 2014 at 6:11 pm ET


Fukushima Daiichi Accident 3 years after, Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, Ramzi Jammal, Executive Vice-President and Chief Regulatory Operations Officer of the Regulatory Operations Branch, Physics Colloquium at Queen’s University, March 14, 2014:

  • Smoke from SFP at Unit 3? Quote from [The National Diet of Japan’s report ‘Fukushima Nuclear Accident Independent Investigation Commission‘] What was the source of the massive amount of heat that caused intermittent water evaporation in the form of white smoke to come out of the pool? If the pool was impacted from the hydrogen explosion, it is probably that the used and unspent fuel assemblies were moved closer together and became compressed against one another, creating a condition of criticality [uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction] inside the pool.
  • Comment in the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission’s presentation: Based on the result of criticality assessment […] there are no criticality in SFP.

Fukushima Nuclear Accident Independent Investigation Commission, National Diet of Japan (emphasis added): Hydrogen explosion of Unit 3 and heat source within the spent fuel pool. The hydrogen explosion resulted in a plume of white smoke immediately after the explosion, and on the two following days. Observation of the spent fuel pool after the explosion shows the possibility of substantial damage to the fuel. But the dumping of a large amount of water after the explosion might have kept the radioactive material in the pool to be within or around the building, reducing the further spread of radioactive material. It is also possible that rainfall could have caused part of the radioactive material to fall into the ocean. […] What was the source of the massive amount of heat that caused intermittent water evaporation in the form of white smoke to come out of the pool? The white smoke was generated not only immediately after the hydrogen explosion but on both of the next two days. There was, therefore, the possibility of damaged fuel inside the pool causing temporary massive heat generation. The layout at the Unit 3 spent fuel pool shows that; 1) fifty-two of the unspent fuel assemblies were arranged together in almost one lump, while the surrounding racks were empty, and 2) nearly half of the spent fuel was arranged together in one lump. Therefore, if the pool was impacted from the hydrogen explosion, it is probable that the used and unspent fuel assemblies were moved closer together and became compressed against one another, creating a condition of criticality inside the pool.

Recall this BBC report from March 24, 2011: “Kyodo News [reports] neutron radiation was observed more than a kilometre from reactor buildings […] Neutrons are emitted during a nuclear chain reaction; so given the context, is Kyodo’s report to be taken as indicating that a chain reaction took place after the reactors shut down? If it is, does that relate to the company’s warning last week that there was a possibility of “re-criticality” in a pool storing fuel rods?”

Watch — Gundersen: Unit 3 started as a hydrogen explosion… but I think it’s more — I actually think it was something called a prompt moderated criticality that was caused by a hydrogen explosion

Published: July 4th, 2014 at 6:11 pm ET


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331 comments to Gov’t Report: Criticality suspected to have occurred in Fukushima fuel pool — Nuclear chain reaction after massive explosion at Unit 3 compressed fuel together? Concerned about ‘substantial damage’ to fuel (VIDEO)

  • jec jec

    Add to that..a CAT 5 cyclone going to hit southern Japan in a few days,then mainland Japan as a CAT2..and its going to give Fukushima WAVES on shore at 70 knots of wind and lots of rain. Great just great. Guess TEPCO can dump more radioactive water and blame Mother Nature!

    • ~Beware The Evil Wind~

      Jec; my friend. Did TEPCO sell TEPCO KNOWN FAULTY TECHNOLOGY? Did they say,there is no chance of any disaster to local government?

      General Electric (Hitachi) did!

      If say Toyota was to be caught out covering up faulty parts on their vehicles. What do you think the outcome would be?

      Need I say more, "duck and cover."

      TEPCO is only a supplier of electricity & not a designer of faulty inferior atomic radiation power destroyer of worlds.

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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      'Morning, JEC. News sources were stating yesterday afternoon and evening there are multiple nuclear plants in Southern Japan. The ones on Kyushu look most vulnerable at this point.

      We need to keep an eye on Chugoku, Skikoku Ikata, Kyushu Genkai, and Kyushu Sendai, which are the four most directly in the hurricane's path, at this point. (I'm not exactly sure where the storm is located right now; haven't checked yet today.)

      Here's a map showing the nuclear plants in Japan, helpful so we can get an idea what might lie in the hurricane's path:

      There are a lot more of them which might lie in harm's way, depending upon what happens with this storm. Apparently the ground in much of Japan is already saturated because of recent rains, so there is heightened danger from flooding. Plus there is the risk of power outages, which is never a good thing in the nuclear power world.

  • The most evil bloody sunset pics I've ever seen! Atlanta, GA on 6-5-14 dozens were taken and sent to newspapers, tweeted, shared from cell phones.

    Stunning all right. Gawd. They look like Plutonium to me. Can any of you cam watchers or rad posters tie this event to Fukushima emissions about 5 days before? Or WIPP rad counts? or anywhere for that matter. Somehow we need to connect what ever the hell event caused this, because the photos show visual proof indicative of a major radiation activity earlier that week.

    For me, this one way to stop preaching to the choir and get some dramatic photos out there to Fuki-info-newbies. I can't fault people for not being aware if I don't find simple ways to communicate and get their attention.

    • Sparky Sparky

      We've been seeing a lot of those sunsets with red clouds and black edges in California's Central Valley in recent weeks, usually after a full day of chem-spraying. I've wondered if this is caused by the chemicals they're spaying, Plutonium or some other radioactive toxin, or some combination.

      Stunning, but dreadful to behold.

    • Right, and all the comments on that link are gawking at "how beautiful it is", if only they knew.

      • I'm so happy the UK newspaper had those pics. I'd shown them to a couple people on my own computer and their reaction was OMG! Is THAT what radiation in the sky looks like! For Real??? Then they'd tell me about similar times they'd thought the sunset looked *different*.

        • Afteer Fuku, the sky in Hawaii was "angry" for many months.

          The flies went a away for about a year, and I felt like shit for about a year. Coincidentally I started feeling better when the flies came back.

          • Same here with missing critter, insects. Seeing a few now finally (too few) and I find myself talking to them instead of swatting them. "How ya doing little fly? …. Hey, mosquito? You OK? Hope you're doing well."

            • I take macro photography of bugs as a hobby and I have noticed this year that there aren't as many out and about. I only saw one June bug this year and it was just recently. They are normally around in droves in May pinging against the windows at dusk…

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                I don't even remember the last time I saw a June bug. I did see one earwig today. I saw bees earlier this year, but not lately. I have seen hardly any birds. I see neighbors still using RoundUP. So foolish.

                • zogerke zogerke

                  philly, near the park, we have mourning doves, sparrows, starlings, chickadees. jays, cardinals, kestrels. Possums and raccoons and foxes. And coyotes. Deer. Big stag beetles, carpenter bees, stinkbugs, ladybugs, occasional praying mantis, loads of ants, misquitos, earthworms, spiders, small toads.

                  Less. I see much LESS of it all, (though more foxes for some odd reason this summer) less bugs less toads less birds and bird calls- but some of them are still here.
                  I. Miss. Crickets. It is the missing crickets I notice so much. THEY are just not here. Cicadas will come in August.

                  • Homolumina Homolumina

                    Same here Zogerke, hardly any bugs in my yard, mutated peaches on my tree, us all having gastrointestinal problems… and ignorance all around. It has to get much worse I guess before more people wake up… Am watching on the sidelines, informing whoever has a brain between their ears… am so glad to be part of this forum. Thank you each and every one posting here for keeping it up, am referring everybody to this site and because you good people out there keep it up here, newbies can join at any point, than k you all, my love to you.

                    • I had, um…4 intense *lower gastrointestinal problems* over both mornings of a irradiated two-fer that hung over my place. My current avi photo was taken on the 2nd evening of it on July 3rd.

                      The clouds actually had a dotted bubbly (I want to say boiling feel/look to the edges).

                    • GOM GOM

                      Homolumina. I am sorry, but no one will wake up. People have been dumbed down through "education". The question is, for me, why do some us 'wake up' or tend to know the truth? Stupefied is the new normal.

                  • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

                    A Maintenance Man at my apartment complex here in downtown Albuquerque, NM, mentioned last week he was seeing fewer crickets than usual. However, we both credited the abundance of Western Kingbirds, a fast flying bird that migrates up here from Mexico during the spring and summer. They enjoy eating many flying bugs (same diet as Barn Swallows) and berries, having families (a nest with 3 babies near my apartment), and harassing hawks and crows. The city is inspiring more Cooper's Hawks to take up residence and raise families due to the large number of pigeons and doves (i.e., "dinner" for hawks, all year round). One possibly "good" effect of radiation is a low number of cockroaches inside, and 3/4 of them I've seen are already dead (I use diatomaceous earth against them). The number of live ones may increase as our monsoon season approaches, yikes! I hope the Kingbirds stick around to eat them 🙂

                • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

                  Send them an anonymous letter with some website reference or info you gather to counter the "retarded" individuals mindset. No need to be insulting just matter of fact. Current Resident, of 1234 Main St. Anytown, USA. The recent upswing in herbicide use has become a wide spread…or something to that effect. They won't suspect you but may think the purchase was tracked. If you have the address, NO NAME PLEASE, I will do it. It's worth the 50 cents to me.

            • califnative califnative

              Last Chants Teri – I've always tried to save little buggers that come in the house by catching them in a jar and letting them go outside but I now have more of the same feeling as you do Teri, each living creature is more and more precious now than ever before.

              Also, sorry to hear about your intestinal problems, I was getting awful distention and what finally helped was removing milk, minimizing dairy and taking probiotics capsules. The biggest culprit was GMO foods, if you don't already know about them I'd be glad to give you some web information.

              • Hey Cali…thanks much! Yeah, I'm am big on nutrition. I've already been heavily involved working/writing, passing around health & diet info for decades, it's one of my main obsessions. 🙂 It truly gets tiring from doing it endlessly as each new *thing*, like Monsanto for instance, makes our lives more miserable yet, with their odious intrusions. Now we're all up against the worst of the worst because of increased radiation.

                I did a round of clay chelation followed a few hours later with probiotics during this last radiation blast. Scary to think what must be happening to our poor insides these days. The dose weighted scale shows 110 risk factor as opposed to say, 30 for esophagus damage from a one time exposure. The many charts that rate these things vary widely and always have disclaimers, since it's also dependent on the exact isotope exposure.

                • ooops, left out a word "…110 risk factor for STOMACH as opposed…"

                  Want to also thank you all for mentioning observations on flora, fauna, sky colors…I'm adding it all to some lists as I accumulate, and appreciate any general location and timing input where it applies. Somehow this will help paint a startling picture that new people can ponder and compare to their own experiences since Fuki happened.

      • GOM GOM

        Sunsets are pretty spectacular in Nevada. All these dark purples, oranges, reds and yellows streaking across the sky. Not hazy, but clear colors. I remember thinking at the time why they look so different from, let's say, African sunsets [more natural colors]. Then it dawned on me, nuclear testing. Then I thought about the friggin orange clouds that drift around Utah. Kennecott copper mine [open pit]. This thing is massive, and so is the cancer rates. No sunsets[?] Now let me tell you that Las Vegas has the most thyroid problems but it's hidden due to not scaring off the tourists. Utah, well everyone is metal toxic, including me and my daughter. We pretty much stayed sick in these places, hence my move to the GOM. Then comes BP….

    • 4Yahshua

      7~5~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!
      Nuclear Winter NOT Summer in these last evil days.

      Teri, quite awhile ago I painted a white tile with q tips and spray paint:
      Radiation from Fukushima, Japan?
      IT'S HERE!!!!
      Uncensored News:

      I put it in the grass at the front of our property with a solar light and windmill (like sold at Dollar Tree or 99 Cents Only Stores.) We live on our own property next door to a public park on a cul-de-sac. No telling how many have read it. (I've even seen young children looking at my front yard display.) I also write the message on out going snail mail. This all helps to get the word out.

    • jonnyboy jonnyboy

      thats totally plutonium glow….. wow so scary.

      • That's what I thought too JB. Plutonium blast from some large emission either nearby (maybe an accident unreported) OR if all the way from Japan…which would put it what? 5-7 days earlier? Like I'm thinking about the jet stream carrying it, maybe Fuki emitted a wad of PU poison anywhere from May 30th-June 1st.

        I think read the cam watcher posts, getting familiar with our local weather patterns and isotope colors is going to be a very valuable skill to pass around. Once you've seen the differences and also how the fog-brain or other symptoms can occur at the same time….well, it's interesting, eh?

    • monster

      I live in the southeast and for several days have been completely zapped of energy. Not just me others around me as well. There are several netc monitering stations in my area that have been off for weeks now. Things that make you go hmmmmm.

  • chevvvy chev

    Look over here,……A RABBIT!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Too Funny! 🙂

  • [Apologies for posting this in this forum – the other forums wouldn't let me do it – no field for the Comment – thought it was important.]

    Local researchers discover reason behind radiation resistance in lung cancer cells
    Updated: 2014-07-05 PM 6:14:42 (KST)

    ""Even when patients are diagnosed with the same type of cancer, they may see different results from the treatment based on the body's resistance to radiation."

    Now, a group of local researchers has found a reason for this.
    They've found a protein called HRP-3 that helps cancerous cells survive the treatment.
    When they suppressed the HRP-3, the amount of active oxygen surged, resulting in a reduction of cancer cells by 20 percent.
    And after radiation was applied, more than 40 percent of the cancer cells died.

    ( , Korean)
    "A gene called HRP-3 is directly related to radiation resistance. We found that we can reduce radiation resistance by suppressing the gene, regardless of the characteristics of individual cancer patients.""

  • Shaker1

    dosdos, for some reason my login won't span pages. While I login on the first page of comments beneath your reply to mine, once the login is complete it only takes me to the second page and isn't valid going back to the first. I keep my browser settings rather tight, not allowing userdata persistence, etc. so that's likely the cause of that problem. Anyway, I hope that you see this here pertaining to our discussion on the first page.

    Just want to say thanks for your patience with my questions. I'll have to look over the explosion vids again, but if memory serves me I believe I remember the stages of it and from that memory and what you wrote it makes more sense. That's all I'm trying to do with this mess in total, make some sense of it.

  • Nick

    Japan 'set for first arms export' under new rules

    Hmmm. Bet they'll have a slew of DU+ weapons that can be distributed all over the globe. A great way to spread radioactive toxins!

    Way to go Japan!

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  • jec jec

    Groundwater leaking into Common Fuel Pool!
    Is this the start of subsidence and breaking away of area to ocean?
    Which is why they started moving REactor 4 fuel to Reactor 5 fuel pool! But then…

    Cooling failure at Reactor 5! EIGHT days to 65C???

    Sounds like a real challenge..and then we have the cyclone coming this week. I hope TEPCO is ready for heavy rain and 70 knots and 6 inches of water!!! Plus high seas…

  • lucius.cornelius

    According to the above linked site, the spent fuel pool at Reactor 5 is possibly now in trouble. A leak in the coolant system.


  • lucius.cornelius

    It gets worse…

    That's Windows "not officially supported anymore unless you pay Microsoft a nice chunk of cash ( ) XP.

    The story contains this gem "Japanese government has requested to update it for 3 times but Tepco has been ignoring the request."

    So legislate already!

    • Shaker1

      Personally, lucius, I don't see anything wrong with using XP. Granted, I haven't and will not deal anymore with these later MS OS offerings, but they could run the equiment with DOS if they wanted to. CNC equipment uses simple simple OSs. They do monitor and accomplish complicated near instantaneous calculations in movements with small processors. It's hardly ever about the OS really, but about programs, management and usage of memory, and processor capacity. Sure, we think of DOS as being archaic, and in some respects it is, but we're remembering it from running on 8.8Hz processors, 64K memory, with 20MB hard drives, maybe a bit better at last DOS incarnation. I don't know what OS you run, but if it's MS I'd bet there's DOS kernel inside.

      Personally, I still use XP Pro. Accepting that it's somewhat necessary and acceptable for MS to debug OS in public, I've always waited for some measure of time before I went to their next offering. As I said, I haven't dealt with their newer OS as when they got to Vista and I had some experience with it, I was done with MS. As for processors, seems the commercial people anyway have pretty much hit the wall with capabilities of this generation (hence the mult-processor common-consumer machines) and the next isn't coming quickly as they for a while. What OS did the early Crays run on? What did the plant use when it first began operation and seemed to run just fine? One might ask what the government wants, really.

      • lucius.cornelius

        So that's Tepco, running a number of nuclear power stations, using an insecure, obsolete OS, connected to the internet, on an OS that we KNOW for absolute sure has backdoors in it that various 'alphabet agencies' can make use of.
        What could possible go wrong?

        If they're not using a specially hardened form of either Linux or BSD, it's a disaster waiting to happen.

  • Shaker1

    And, honestly, as others, I don't see why an industrial system like this is connected directly to the interent without severe moderation. If they needed a systems processor upgrade for their controls, why can't it be upgraded through a central and discrete network hub, that hub doing the download and analyzing the product before uploading the upgrade like one would manage the experience of a small child. I personally can't see why it's not smart and an unreasonable expense to do such a thing.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    I'm posting this here

    ​Fukushima has 9 days to prevent ‘unsafe’ overheating — RT News
    Fukushima operator TEPCO has been forced to switch off the cooling system at mothballed Reactor Unit 5, after it was discovered that it had been leaking water. In nine days, if the system is not repaired, temperatures will exceed dangerous levels.

    Engineers have discovered that 1,300 liters of water leaked from a cooling system intended to stabilize the temperature of the spent fuel at the Reactor Unit 5, which was offline but loaded with fuel rods when the plant was damaged by the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.

    The source of the leak was a 3 mm-diameter hole near a flow valve, a statement published by the Japanese energy giant on Sunday asserts. However it is unclear from company data if the location of the opening has been discovered, or whether it was calculated with flow measurements.

    At the time when the cooling system was switched off at around 12pm on Sunday, the temperature in the pool in which the rods are submerged was 23C but started increasing by 0.193 degrees per hour, TEPCO says.

    If no new cold water is pumped in at such rate it will reach the dangerous threshold of 65C by the midpoint of the month in roughly 9 days.

    Sent from my F-iPad

    • Shaker1

      Though it seems that the RT article is a direct translation, I really do wish that Tepco would resume translation of all their releases. Included in the release was the areas the leaked water has been observed. It seems to be part of outlet piping? It's quite a bit of water, but there's no indication at what pressure it leaked. I wonder how long it leaked, as water's found on the first floor and the basement(s). 3mm is a bit less than 1/8 inch. Apparently, its access, position, or pressure in operation doesn't lend itself to duct tape…I would hope the quote of 9 days was in the light of reassurance that it could be fixed in that time and not some reference to the repair's difficulty.

    • lucius.cornelius

      How long does 1.3 tons of seawater take to leak through a 3mm hole?
      Seems a bit dubious really. Surely, unles it was under great pressure, the leak would have been there for weeks, if not months, and no one noticed?

  • rogerthat
    The Asia-Pacific Journal, Vol. 11, Issue 27, No. 2, July 7, 2014.
    What Role for Nuclear Power in Japan’s Future?

  • 52Rockwell

    Man i got the enenews overload blues. I have read too much to digest. My belly hurts. all i really wanna do is party down till the Blue Star Kachina Dances in the square infront of the children, Then Im through:)

    • Sparky Sparky

      With all due respect from 'Newser to 'Newser: My guess is that it is what you've been drinking, not what you've been reading/posting on Enenews that is causing your belly to hurt.

      Cure is sleep and lay off the booze and posting for now; dancing drunk in front of children is not recommended at this time (ever?).

      Rx, signed: Sparky, FWIW

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        He wasn't talking about himself dancing, but "Blue Star Kachina Dances". You might want to google "Kachina". Also, he said nothing about dancing drunk or naked. Putting words in someone's moths is hardly civilized.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          “In Hopi mythology, the Blue Star Kachina or Saquasohuh, is a kachina or spirit, that will signify the coming of the beginning of the new world by appearing in the form of a blue star. The Blue Star Kachina is said to be the ninth and final sign before the ‘Day of Purification’, described as a catastrophe or a ‘world engulfing cataclysm’ that will lead to the purification of planet Earth.[“

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          TYPO; someone's mouth

        • Sparky Sparky

          I never suggested 52R would be dancing naked–possibly drunk, yes, given his comments; naked, no–that came from you, not me.

          VanneV said, "Putting words in someone's moths [mouths] is hardly civilized."

          So, VanneV, we are both apparently guilty of speculation. How uncivilized and perfectly human of us. 😉

          Thanks for the info and link re: the Blue Star Kachina/Saquasohuh. I always learn so much from you and others here on Enenews.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            I'm sorry I misread your post. I think what he said is that he would party until the end of time, and he used a metaphor for the end of time, the Hopi Blue Star Kachina dance. I didn't know the mythology, although I have read all Of Tony Hillerman's novels. My children all made kachina dolls at school when they were young.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Hillerman mainly write about the Navaho Tribal Police, but I think he also sometimes write about the Hopi Indians.

              "…The Hopi Reservation is entirely surrounded by the much larger Navajo Reservation. The two nations used to share the Navajo-Hopi Joint Use Area, but this was a source of conflict. The partition of this area, commonly known as Big Mountain, by Acts of Congress in 1974 and 1996, has also resulted in long-term controversy.[2][3][4]…"

            • Sparky Sparky

              Thanks, VanneV–no problem. I apparently missed the metaphor and the nuanced interpretation. The rest I stand by, claiming absolutely no medical expertise, but as a respectful fellow Enenewser: best not to drink [excessively] and post.

          • PurpleRain PurpleRain

            I thought that blue star meteorite already came and went back in 2012?

            • 52Rockwell

              I saw that one it was cool . The Blue Star Kachina is /will be a person who will dance in the Square in Hoteville .Then we can go into the 5th world.See we have all been here before and made the same ol stupid mistakes. I dont know why we must do it again. Who am I to question the Divine ?

          • 52Rockwell

            Book Of The Hopi Frank Waters. I was inferring that I cant wait for the next world cause Im pretty sure we have messed this one up beyond repair.and that beyond Divine intervention I deem the situation hopeless.Love all Yall,You 2 Vanne

  • rogerthat
    July 04, 2014
    By KOZUE ISOZAKI/ Staff Writer
    Hakodate city government's lawsuit to halt construction of a nuclear power plant across the Tsugaru Strait got under way as the town's mayor asserted that an accident there would bring catastrophe to neighboring municipalities.
    The opening arguments were heard July 3 at the Tokyo District Court.
    Both the central government and the Electric Power Development Co. (J-Power), which is the operator of the nuclear power plant in Oma, Aomori Prefecture, on the main island of Honshu, are being sued by the government of Hakodate in Hokkaido.
    Until now, no municipality in Japan has ever taken legal action to stop a nuclear power plant from being built….

    • nedlifromvermont

      Thank you for the updates and the links, rogerthat (who is Roger, anyway??)

      All I got to say to your post is "It's about (goddamn) time."

      Sue them all! Shut them all down! Civilian Nuclear Power was NEVER NECESSARY!!

      Hey 'newsers: Please respond to this statement whcih I received from several members of the MIT Nuclear Engineering Dept. at the Bipartisan Committee on America's Nuclear Waste (or whatever) about three weeks ago: "The lifetime carbon footprint of solar power is approximately five times that of nuclear."

      This is their latest 'smart' lie, based on mining the rare-Earths needed for solar photo-voltaics … "Look it up!" they said … and I think it's a clever lie. Even so … if it were one hundred times as large, solar would still be preferable to the nuclear power bargain: guaranteed releases of radio-krypton, argon etc. as well as tritium … and likely meltdowns and catastrophic release of radio-iodine, cesium, strontium and plutonium etc. etc.

      Rock on 'newsers! We have a strong community here, and we ain't fadin' away!

  • bo bo

    Temporary fix for SFP5 – TEPCO to channel cooling water for reactor into spent fuel pool starting 7/8 ( I just saw this japanese page, but will see if I can find in English in a bit – or if anybody can, please do)

  • bo bo

    Very strange – English version of NHK release has none of the details of the above, though it was both released at same time ? Hm.

    • bo bo

      Link paste function is down all of a sudden 🙁
      Sorry – if interested pls. search the English NHK release on your own

      • bo bo

        Strange, how 2 versions of the news are slightly different. Oh well, maybe it'll be updated soon…

        • or-well

          EXSKF and FukuDiary both have noted differences between English & Japanese language versions of same story in various Japanese online media. Certain details get left out from one or another.

          • bo bo

            Seems like a huge difference in translation to me though or-well… but then again, maybe not… because a day later they'll report in the Japanese version of the news 'oh… well.. um…that temporary fix we talked about… looks like it's not gonna work…'

            Perhaps the English version IS closer to reality 🙁

            • or-well

              bo, I don't know if it's someone's idea of appropriate or desireable spin, or if there's any logic to it at all!
              maybe it's just that lowly interns get the translation jobs…?
              I recall bilingual commentaters in the past noticing English-language versions having, at different times, both less and more of what might be considered the bleaker aspects of a story.
              One would think an Editor decides. Do they get training in "Nuclear Sensitivity"???

              • bo bo

                But to say 'no prospect' where the original says 'cooling to resume on 7/8/14' – that's two drastically different scenarios!

                But then again, I must be still quite naive, to think those 2 stories from TEPCO are drastically different.

                • or-well

                  It's pretty much opposite, right.
                  Well, I predict it will be gone soon, because that's spreading Sad Spirit and Defeatist Attitude.
                  I bet the Tepco PR folks are busy working on something right now!!!

        • bo bo

          Ok – link works now…

          'No prospect to resume cooling No.5 fuel pool' is the English version released at the same time.

          • bo bo

            …And back to the source… TEPCO's report on leak locations of SFP5 – which again is confusing to me, because it seems, from this, that there are 4 locations of the leak, not just one 3mm hole…


            • Sickputer

              bo…here is Google translate:

              After that, it was confirmed leakage situation, and it was confirmed that the valve body of the flow rate adjustment you have installed in the auxiliary cooling seawater system outlet pipe, hole of about 3mm diameter is open one place. Future, I will consider the repair method of the relevant section.

              Moreover, when it was confirmed leakage situation of seawater of Unit 5 reactor building, from situations such as the following, we estimated a total of about 1,310 liters leakage amount. -1st floor reactor building: about 2m × 3m × about about 5mm depth (about 30 liters) · Reactor building medium-basement: about 10m × 8m × about about 10mm depth (about 800 liters)…

              Reactor building basement: about 10m × 3m × about about 1mm depth (about 30 liters) · Reactor building basement (about 6m × about 3m

              • bo bo

                Thank you SP – your digestion of information much better through google translate !
                Emabarrassed & grateful.

                • Shaker1

                  And in the original, bo, I got the idea that they quoted the time to what they considered more or less dangerous (9 days) as reassurance that the situation isn't that critical, be it directly a valve itself or pipe in the vicinity of the valve. I got an impression from the translation I did last night that it was near a valve, but not the valve itself, but Sickputer's translation might make me think otherwise.

                  Again, I wish Tepco would resume transalation of all their releases as they did early on. But that then also has me wondering when translations are compared here that we might question even Tepco's translations. Because one is proficient in English and it seems very good to an English speaker (ex-SKF strikes me as very good) how can I tell it's accurate enough for me to visualize the actual picture of the situation?

  • Nick

    I thought TEPCO was going to use FD-NPP #'s 5 and 6 as
    "experimental" ones to see how 1234 went haywire.

    The loss of coolant could be intentional.

  • Nick

    "The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, crippled by an earthquake and tsunami in 2011, is on the other side of the country, which is likely to see rain, at the worst."–finance.html

    Crippled? How about destroyed!

    Watch the sun for earthquake generating magnetic fields.

    Why do I get the feeling that something's gonna give?

  • Nick

    Two sunspots right at earth as of monday a.m.

    Full moon 7/12 (7/11 Japan). = extra tugs on earth as well.

    Get ready folks. If nothing else, radioactive levels will spike around FD-NPP. Bet on it.

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Quakes, Typhoons, Solar Flares: Plenty to see here, just stop and look:

    120-plus Mammoth CA EQs in 2 days is the biggest SWARM I've ever seen anywhere, plus our desert cities house rattling for 20 seconds 2 days ago, and then today's 7.0 in Chiapas: I'm shocked, fore-shocked:

  • Nick

    Number Five alive Stephanie…

    Seawater has contaminated SPF #5 at FD-NPP.

    Makes one feel all warm and cozy don't it?

  • califnative califnative

    Super Typhoon Neoguri Approaching Japan – BPEarthWatch video posted today

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