Published: January 14th, 2012 at 7:59 am ET
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After Fukushima, fish tales, Montreal Gazette by Alex Roslin, Jan. 13, 2012:
[...] After governments refused to provide funds, Buesseler, Fisher and other scientists secured funds from a private foundation for a research voyage in the Pacific to gather radiation data on fish, plankton and water. [...]
Nicholas Fisher, a marine sciences professor at the State University of New York at Stony Brook [...] is researching how radiation from Fukushima is affecting the Pacific fishery
- “There has been virtually zero monitoring and research on this,” he said, calling on other governments to do more radiation tests on the ocean’s marine life.
- “In the U.S., it’s very difficult to acquire funding to do that work. A lot of people are very frustrated. Funding agencies are already spread incredibly thin, and they were not prepared for this”
Oceanographer Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at the non-profit Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
- “People want to know what’s happening with the cesium and how much is in the fish, but we don’t know. It’s frustrating”
- “It’s disconcerting how big of an event Fukushima was and how little data are out there. No one has taken responsibility for studying this in a single agency (in the U.S.), even though we also have reactors on the coast and other events could happen”
Published: January 14th, 2012 at 7:59 am ET
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TURNED YOUR BACKS to the People and The God In Heaven may you burn in HELL
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We got to MAKE THEM burn in HELL. Or at least MOVE THE F**K OVER=NEW KID(s)IN TOWN.
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God will take care of the burning in Hell part. There will be justice. If not now, later! Eternal justice will be served. “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
Sadly most people don’t believe that, which is why we’re seeing the kinds of things we are seeing. They are deluded into thinking there are no consequences for their actions, and certainly not eternal consequences ….
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Maybe we give em a little nudge though
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That’s RIGHT Whoop’s,…There’s a new Sheriff in town, huh!
You BETCHA!
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hot dang!!! the scientists care about their future gene pool!! thats the take i got from the us expedition, privately funded? WITH japanese scientists and illigal information specialists
seems like woods hole had to “bend” like save the children and the dalai lama!!
any chance of there being a leak in the woods hole boat?? would be nice to get the test results so that we could all rest easy? huh mister? how about it mister??
just my take there!
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I’m so proud to see them speaking OUT. I mean, we are watching a Global Life Changing event from Fukushima. How can anyone be SILENT on what we know?!?! It’s THERE for anyone to read/see/ABSORB. And we certainly are…SOAKING IT ALL UP.
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The officialese in India right now:
Kudankulam and cancer deaths.
They will subject even the nuclear workers to unacceptable radiation levels and use witchcraft to defraud the public.
Applying the healthy worker effect reveals that the official measured cancer rates of nuclear workers ALL INDIA from 1995 to 2010 has resulted in more than 37% excess cancer death rate than the present annual cancer death rate in Tamilnadu where the 9200 MW nuclear park is slated to come and already 2000 MW demon is standing ready to cause perfect mass murders a la
Andrei Sakharov! See ANNUAL NORMAL OPERATIONS INDIAN SAFETY RECORD:
http://abandonnukes.blogspot.com/2011/12/kudankulam-and-cancer-deaths.html
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I know nothing about India,…but I sure feel badly for them.
I can imagine how it went down,…poor, starving India meets with the nuke fucks,…who open up their ‘treasure trove’ showing India all it’s baubles. India is given baubles to take back to their PTB. How could they say, “No”?
Just like a coke dealer,…free lines (at first). Then, you PAY WITH YOUR LIFE!
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This is a really good msm article about the Fukushima situation. Be sure to read the whole article – lots of new (to me) snippets about government behavior, especially the Canadian federal government.
I hope this is the first of many in msm.
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This article has links to two other good articles written by the same journalist.
First article:
“Radioactive iodine in rainwater: Public was in the dark”
“After the Fukushima nuclear accident, Canadian health officials assured a nervous public that virtually no radioactive fallout had drifted to Canada.
But last March, a Health Canada monitoring station in Calgary detected an average of 8.18 becquerels per litre of radioactive iodine (an isotope released by the nuclear accident) in rainwater, the data shows.
The level easily exceeded the Canadian guideline of six becquerels of iodine per litre for drinking water, acknowledged Eric Pellerin, chief of Health Canada’s radiation-surveillance division.”
Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Radioactive+iodine+rainwater+Public+dark/5994297/story.html#ixzz1jRPGgzn9
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Second article:
“The debate in Canada: What is a ‘safe’ level of radiation?”
Quote from the article:
“In fact, Canada’s ceiling for radiation in food is set at a level that would lead to 5,000 to 8,000 cancers per million people over a 70-year lifetime of exposure…”
Read more:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/debate+Canada+What+safe+level+radiation/5994285/story.html#ixzz1jRR2inCY
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Thanks Mack. Will it be CAnada that SAVES US ALL FROM THIS BS?! Got to pray to God…
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The nuke industry is still very much alive in Canada, but perhaps things are starting to turn:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/towns-vie-to-be-the-final-resting-spot-for-canadas-nuclear-garbage/article2302478/
Note the shills among this article’s commenters, by the way.
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Good find, Mack. It’s dated just yesterday, so I’m even more encouraged that the Gazette is putting Fukushima on the front burner at last.
I find the phrase “the debate in Canada” hollow though. So far, the Canadian public is completely left out of any debate, but that may change.
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YIKES! That works out to 170,000 to 270,000 lifetime cancers if all 34 million Canadians were exposed at the “safe” level.
“I don’t think we should be using the word ‘safe.’ We should say it’s a ‘permissible’ level of radiation,” Edwards said.
GOD I hope Canadians are READING THIS!!
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Right, it’s not “safe”, it’s a “permissible” or “acceptable” number of cancers. In other words, if you or your children get cancer from this, it is perfectly OK with the government because they think it’s “acceptable”.
Compare with what President Kennedy said in 1963:
“. . .the number of children and grandchildren with cancer in their bones, with leukemia in their blood, or with poison in their lungs might seem statistically small to some, in comparison with natural health hazards. But this is not a natural health hazard – and it is not a statistical issue. The loss of even one human life, or the malformation of even one baby – who may be born long after we are gone – should be of concern to us all.”
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How about “permitted” so that it doesn’t sound like “permissible” is OK? Or “allowed” ?
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Or lately I’ve been seeing it referred to as “no imminent danger.”
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Indicted!
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Hope you caught Bill Moyers last night. He interviewed the authors of the book Winner-Take-All Politics: How Washington Made the Rich Richer — And Turned Its Back on the Middle Class. THIS IS VERY RELEVANT REGARDING THE LACK OF NEWS. BIG MONEY SHUTS THE DOOR ON ANY TRUTH ESCAPING (any issue). All of D.C. going along with it. Not big news there BUT I came away PISSED AND READY TO FIGHT! That’s why I say, we must start contacting Moyers with all we know. He WILL cover it. He’s BRAVE and not afraid to SPEAK OUT. HERO!
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http://billmoyers.com/segment/jacob-hacker-paul-pierson-on-engineered-inequality/ Man these guys really know their stuff. Young and energitic, they are heros too. We CAN overcome this bullshit. But we all got to get out there and OCCUPY. At least that’s what I think.
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Bill Moyer is a great man. His interview will William K. Black was very enlightening. In 1999 when they repealed the Glass Steagle Act it transferred so much power that in turn. gave it to the corporations in the form of investment. The Federal Reserve acts as a generous monopoly banker to it’s favorites, for those of us who play the board game that’s easy to understand. The slots where the 500 dollar bills never run dry and, every card is a “get out of jail free” card. Heck if you were a building contractor and needed money, all you have to do is be the banker to get the money. If you are an invester? Be a banker, unlimited money always helps. Bankers invent really stupid fraud schemes like, if the investment turns into worthlessness, you put the note into a box of other worthlessness and call it a derivitive, then sell it to some shmuck that is properly insured. Since, most people are either drunk or stoned, at least that is what they think, nobody will ever catch on to the fraud. To keep the fraud going there needs to be an insured buyer with no oversight.(taxpayer funds)Back to situation at hand. Does a conciousness of toxic food, toxic water, and toxic air help business? Help corporations? Help the banks? Help the democracy? Telling the people below deck that the ship is sinking makes competition for a life boat. But, what if there are no life boats? Just competition for the coo-coo’s nest? LOL
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I had wondered why MOYERS came out of retirement then got to thinking: Our entire country is falling down around us, so he decided the best thing to do was GET BACK ON TV, TELL THE TRUTH AND TRY TO WAKE THE SHEEPLE UP. I love him. HERO
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AND!! WE CANT FORGET MOYERS EITHER WHEN GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT FUKUSHIMA. Whether in comments or email or Tweeting.
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There’s a YouTube video called, “Goldman Sucks” I really like (not the title). It explains how the banksters operate their little shenanigans and manipulate the economy, i.e., the “business cycle” and investment vehicles like derivatives for their own benefit. The “business cycle” is a false paradigm, IMHO.
What “governments” was the author referring to, I wonder, i.e., the ones that refused to fund the research? U.S.? Japan? Canada? Other?
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Indeed, got to spread the word, keep momentum up, even increase it.
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Thanks very much Whoopie. I haven’t turned on my TV in many months, because the news is so incomplete. Bill Moyers is on my PBS and Sunday at noon:
http://www.rmpbs.org/content/index.cfm/fuseaction/affinity/affinityID/1/contentID/412/navID/384/News-/-Current-Affairs.htm/navID/384
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Your welcome. He’s on Fridays at 7 here. I WILL ALWAYS CATCH HIM unless sick and dying in bed.
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There’s even a photo of the Pacific debris field (finally) credited to the US Navy. Remember how no such photos were available just a few weeks ago?
Look at this amazing snippet:
“The arrival of the debris on the west coast also appears to have caught Canadian authorities off guard.
“What debris are you talking about?” Health Canada spokesman Gary Holub asked when contacted for a comment this week.
“Debris from Japan is not expected on the west coast of Canada for another year.”
He asked a reporter to email him media stories about the debris. Later, Holub emailed a statement saying “there has been no official confirmation that the source of this debris is from the tsunami in Japan.”
He said, “It is ‘highly unlikely’ the debris will be radioactive and that Health Canada will await scientific data before deciding whether to test any of it.””
—– End of segment from article
Did you get that last bit? They will wait for scientific data (test results) before they decide to test any of it!
Read the whole article. It’s amazing stuff.
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Overall, one in five of the 1,100 catches tested in November exceeded the new ceiling of 100 becquerels per kilogram. (Canada’s ceiling for radiation in food is much higher: 1,000 becquerels per kilo.)
OF COURSE! JUST LIKE THE USA! RAISED LEVELS MAKE IT SAFE!
CRIMINALS every last one of them!
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Good eye, Whoopie. I’m hoping one of our resident number crunchers will take that further.
“How many bites of fish are equivalent to a chest X-ray” type of thing and/or which countries changed their limits after Fukushima, what are the old and new limits, what “science” led to the changes….
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Spot on aigeezer
LISTENING AMAZING STUFF RIGHT HERE! COAST TO COAST FRIDAY 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhSCuCtqhYY
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Al-Gee,
What are you looking for, for numbers?
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Not sure until I see it, I guess, HoTaters – something in the spirit of that wonderful xkcd chart from last March, with today’s government/industry propaganda highlighted and continually updated as the crisis continues?
http://blog.xkcd.com/2011/03/19/radiation-chart/
Seeing that Canada’s limit of acceptable food radiation emissions is ten times that of Japan gives me the creeps, but I don’t know the actual hard implications. What other things in my life might emit at a rate of 1,000 becquerels per kilo? Even the chest X-ray or intercontinental flight comparison numbers can be useful in context, so… yes, numbers to compare things.
The “officials” are so coy: “no immediate danger” means “serious long term danger”, “acceptable” means “unacceptable to the public if they knew”, “no evidence” means “we have not looked”, and so forth.
Shifting the entire discussion from adjectives to numbers might help. If I saw that eating a portion of Pacific salmon really was equivalent to eating a banana (hah!) I might go back to sleep. If I saw (hypothetically) that it was now equivalent to three chest X-rays, I might behave rather differently.
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My number crunching ability has dulled with age, but I believe one microsievert equals 80 Becquerels. If so, that suggests the Canadian government claims it is acceptable for us to eat food that emits 12.5 microsieverts per kilo or about 1-2 microsieverts per serving.
Is this a “small” amount? How about if it is present in every serving of every meal every day for every man, woman and child? How about if the actual amounts are much greater than the “limits” (as seems to be the case more and more often)? How about internal vs. external radiation? – this is food, after all, not radium dial wristwatches.
On and on… I think a huge tragedy may be lurking behind all the government reassurances (nothing new to Enenews readers), and I hope that paying closer attention to government numbers may help tease out the scope of the problem.
Old joke: “There are exactly three kinds of people in the world – those of us who are good at math, and everybody else.”
Anybody good at math who can dissect the government numbers? An updated, focused version of something like this, perhaps: http://xkcd.com/radiation/
Maybe some kind of collaborative Wiki venture?… Maybe a condensed form of the radiation data accumulating here at Enenews in the Monitoring thread?… just musing that we might be able to do a kind of honest crowd-sourced evaluation of the implications of the numbers we do get, something like:
Step 1: convert mush words like “acceptable” to numbers.
Step 2: find how the numbers fit with other known numbers.
Step 3: assess implications, observe and extrapolate trends.
Step 4: tell the world what we find.
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Or its “only” a CT scan….ouch
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Yup. That innocent CT scan is apparently 7 millisieverts (7000 microsieverts) or 70,000 bananas for those keeping score at home.
Oh, and I’ve now noticed that the “acceptable” 1-2 microsieverts/serving calculated in my post at 12:58 is equivalent to 10-20 pre-Fukushima bananas per serving, per meal, for each and every meal, forever or until they next raise the “limits”. Yum!
http://xkcd.com/radiation/
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Up to 25mSv, they were planning to blast me with, and it turned out a simple blood test answered the question instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jerks!
Fortunately I have educated on radiation and I avoided this otherwise I would have been just like a cattle.
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“Disconcerting how big of an event Fukushima was and how little data are out there”
JUST ASK THE CHINESE YOU SCIENTISTS YOU!! THEY KNOW!! AND SO DO THE RUSSIANS!!
however, …….. 11 january 2012
“…they were not allowed to enter the waters within 30-kilometers of the coast”
“But there isn’t much data on the sediment yet”
some snippets from past chinese media..
“During their 18-day voyage ending on July 4, the monitoring team collected air, water and biological samples from the target areas.
Radioactive cesium-137 and strontium-90 have been detected in all water samples while cesium-134 has been found in 94 percent of the samples, the statement said.
The highest amounts of cesium-137 and strontium-90 in the samples were 300 times and 10 times, respectively, the amount of natural background radiation in China’s territorial waters.”
and this
“Since Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 both have half-lives of about 30 years, they are more likely to eventually enter the food chain and affect the health of consumers,….”
and then the iaea
“”To date, only Cs-134 and Cs-137 were detected far offshore from the Japanese coast in the prevailing Kuroshio Ocean current at levels of less concern.”
and then of course noda (went to china apparently)
China, Japan bond over trade
Updated: 2012-01-06 08
“Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda did visit China before the end of 2011, even though his original schedule was postponed. And despite predictions that Noda’s first official visit to China will not be fruitful, Chinese and Japanese leaders reached an agreement to strengthen financial cooperation, creating an impact on East Asia and the world beyond. “
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/usa/opinion/2012-01/06/content_14390691.htm
the iaea LLOKS after china and china has agreed to let the iaea only handle the information.. what did noda concede? what illegal information did he stop? where are the russians? see video below…
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“Disconcerting how big of an event Fukushima was and how little data are out there”–
Yes, they know more about the breeding habits of a teetsy fly, study the micro organisms living inside a bird’s beak, for goodness sake.
Notice this too? “how big of an event Fukushima was”
WAS???? WAS????
How ’bout IS, A-holes!
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Good spot SJ. The crisis far from over. Amazing to me how they can do this and STILL LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
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…and don’t forget the monkeys on cocaine… 71k for that..and yet, how much of our debt is being spent to save us from this mess? ZERO.
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“”To date, only Cs-134 and Cs-137 were detected far offshore from the Japanese coast in the prevailing Kuroshio Ocean current at levels of less concern.”
Duh,….who here thinks that’s because that’s all they tested for!
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Right on, SJ. The more one looks at the bureaucrats’ words, the more misdirection one finds.
How about “… of less concern.” Less concern to whom? Less than what? Some concern remains? How much? Why? Will you ever tell the public about this concern?…
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A first barrier or obstacle to truthful reporting is overcoming media perception the “cold shutdown” has actually occurred. There are a lot of uninformed journalists writing their pieces based on partial information. They aren’t doing their homework and necessary research, so they’re not making truthful statements. “Garbage in, garbage out.”
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Exactly, just look for what they don’t say
ND means non detected, well it doesn’t that is was tested!!!!
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Things that make you go hmmmmmm…….
http://flyingcuttlefish.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/china-japan-dump-the-dollar/
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Ooooooooh Nooooooo! We’re toast. Burnt toast.
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China has been threatening to dump massive amounts of U.S. Treasury bills for at least two years. Bernanke and his cohorts have been scurrying around feverishly trying to dissuade them from doing so, since it would probably cause the dollar to collapse. If it collapses, so goes the world economy ….
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China5 has been threatening this for at least five years and maybe more and is in a kunundrum(sp?) so.. if China dumps too quickly, they will loose on what they have yet to dump.. so a sudden de-leverage of Treasury bills would no doubt cost China more than anyone else.. they must be very careful.. If we fail they too fail..
Personally, one should consider that interest is paid commiserate with risk, and one risk to lending money is default. It happens, or you would not deserve the interest. So lenders lend based on the notion they will get paid back..and if there is some “notion” that might not happen, they just charge more interest from the get go..
I think we (USA) should just default.. we spent 454 billion on interest alone last year.. so 1/2 a trillion, almost, is plain ole interest.. walk away.. default.. so sad to bad..
Most of us, here, already recognize it is the same World Wide FAT CATS that are earning this interest.. you know the 1%.. so for the sake of the other 99% I say DEFAULT… then let’s start over and really change things..
..I have also wondered if our increase in imports from Japan(remember USA only nation on planet to increase imports from Japan last year) had a lot to do with the “let’s deal oil in something other than dollars” move that had been gaining steam.. (which would be more detrimental to USA economy than China selling off Treasury bills) no longer hear about that ..maybe Japan is a better friend now, and no longer interested in that.
From 2009 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html
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China (December) & Russia (September) Surveying Post-Fukushima Japan
Report re China came out in December 2011, re Russia in September 2011
“Partly for military purposes”? or checking the rads? LOL !! enjoy!
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Whoa! That’s BIG NEWS Arc!! What in corner AREN’T these Nuclear guys in?! Scratch our backs – we’ll scratch yours. IAEA CRIMINALS!
“Protect their INTERESTS” Posting to HP
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In other words.. China has more than 7 months of data they are hiding. Russia has 5 trips worth of data..no sharing? Obviously, the gig is up…
Food shortage immanent.. should we start a friendly over under bet?
Who will be the first to raise hell? ..or will they all collude and keep quietly feeding their citizens fish.. like big tobacco selling it’s cancer causing product as a way to lower governmental costs.. if citizen smokes and dies prematurely, that is less retirement, less medical, less burden to the state finances..
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Feed em radiation!
That is the policy decision.
yesterday I noted that valley cities in Ca were most impacted with radiation. Those valley cities are where the majority of Ca’s agricultural crops are grown (I’m a native Ca).
Same with Yuma AZ
The decision has been made to avoid panicking populations and food scarcities by allowing us to eat radiation-laden food, drink radiation-laden water, inhale radiation-laden air.
THE QUESTION IS WILL THEY TEST AT ALL TO PROTECT US FROM THE MOST CONTAMINATED PRODUCTS?
This summer I found a document from the state of Alaska saying 2000 CPM beta were action levels. Compare that with 3x background for emergency responders according to EPA
State of Alaska
http://www.hss.state.ak.us/prepared/assets/fs_radiation.pdf
EPA
http://www.rrt5.org/acp/docs/App6_AirMonitoringGuidelines.pdf
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Have fish for breakfast?
Did it have cesium?
You will be told Last,
be-cause Beliefium
is more important.
It is found everywhere.
What a reliefium -
Especialy for those in
pro-nuke delirium.
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They better monitor everything, and let the public see the data. This is not going to get better.
Coast to Coast Am – Fukushima radiation kills thousands in US claims Dr. John Apsley
CLICK>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhSCuCtqhYY
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Thanks WSP. Going to listen now.
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Whoopie, you’re welcome..I thought it was a good interview.
Thank you for all your posts and what you write.
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Great program! Dr. John Apsley gives great reporting, and talks about how to protect one’s self from radioactive contamination/radiatiion poisoning.
I’m getting his book — it looks like a good one. Great explanations on how to purge radioactive isotopes from the body, and how to repair the immune system, and the body’s enzyme systems.
Here’s a link:
http://doctorapsley.com/RadiationTherapy.aspx
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Dr. John Apsley has a new book out called, “Fukushima Meltdown & Modern Radiation: Protecting Ourselves and Our Future Generations”
In the Acknowledgement section, he thanks the Gundersen’s, Dr. Caldicott, Dr. Busby and more of the “good guys/gals” (imho).
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In Comments:
“Whilst you concentrate on fish,there is actually a bioaccumulation hierarchy…with molluscs highest, then crustacea…. fish lowest there is a X10 difference:
http://www.cefas.co.uk/publications/environment/R03010Final.pdf
Channel Islands:
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/nuclear/radioprotection/doc/studies/rp132/annex_e_en.pdf
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/nuclear/radioprotection/doc/studies/rp132/annex_d_en
Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/After+Fukushima+fish+tales/5994237/story.html#ixzz1jRNtKX00
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A Big Thank You to ichicax4 on YouTube
Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout
CLICK>>http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/medical-journal-article–14000-us-deaths-tied-to-fukushima-reactor-disaster-fallout-135859288.html
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Scientific integrity?
Words scatological!
(For those under the influence
of technological
anti-biological
illogical nuclear
bafflegab spin)
Let Science advance
(to the rear)
of predicament
leaving behind a
Last Will and Testament
To lickspittle toadies
And nuclear Roadies,
To anti-Life Lapdogs
And funding-trough
spin-hogs.
They say Science advances
one death at a time
As the young come along
spurning the dime
paid for the crime,
as the boffins of orthodox
complicit Science
head for their coffins
and their lead-lined silence.
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If the creator did not supply this planet with an ozone protective shield http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_layer from the sun’s ultraviolet light http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_light you just would not just get a sun burn you would not be here at all. So what is protecting the planet from man made radiation??? Everyone knows what the Planet Mars looks like has no atmosphere or protective shield. Is that what planet earth will be like in a few hundred years???
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VERY GOOD QUESTION MICSAM. I bet your right. OMFG!
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If HAARP keeps burning holes in the ionosphere for grins and giggles it might not take a couple hundred years to find out.
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Japan gives $59m: for flood-affected Pakistanis
Saturday, January 14, 2012
PESHAWAR: Japan donated $59 million to support UNHCR’s rehabilitation projects including the agency’s shelter project for flood affected Pakistanis and Afghan refugees across Pakistan.
Using the Japanese funding, UNHCR also undertook a project worth $2.3 million to restore and rehabilitate community infrastructure by constructing and renovating classrooms, basic health units and offices and water, sanitation and drainage systems in refugee villages.
Neill Wright, the UNHCR country representative in Islamabad said, “We highly appreciate and value the contribution made by the people of Japan to support our efforts in providing assistance to the people in need of humanitarian assistance.” He noted, “Japan has always generously supported our …
Japan gives $59m: for flood-affected Pakistanis – Daily Times
7 hours ago … tirmizi is one of the top pakistani blogger … newly constructed shelter more than a
year after the catastrophic floods that struck Pakistan in 2010. …
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2012%5C01%5C14%5Cstory_14-1-2012_pg5_12
BBC News – Pakistan floods ‘hit 14m people’
Tech · Entertainment · Video. 6 August 2010 BBC’s
Adam Mynott: ‘It’s a catastrophe… and that’s no overstatement’. The worst floods in Pakistan’s history have hit at least 14 million people, officials say. …
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10896849
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Another fragment from the article. It’s stuff talked about often here at Enenews, but I think the big breakthrough is that mainstream scientists are talking openly about it in mainstream media. Finally – I hope it’s a turning point:
“Buesseler has already reported some results from the 15-day cruise last May and June.
He co-authored the study in October that said cesium levels in the Pacific had gone up an astonishing 45 million times above pre-accident levels. The levels then declined rapidly for a while, but after that, they unexpectedly levelled off.
In July, cesium levels stopped declining and remained stuck at 10,000 times above pre-accident levels.
It meant the ocean wasn’t diluting the radiation as expected. If it had been, cesium levels would have kept falling. The finding suggested radiation was still being released into the ocean long after the accident in March, Buesseler said in an interview.
“It implies the groundwater is contaminated or the facility is still leaking radiation.””
——————— end of quoted segment
They actually said it in msm: groundwater… contaminated… facility still leaking radiation. That’s a big shift from the “cold shutdown conditions” nonsense.
Oh yeah… the numbers are terrifying but that’s another story.
SHUT THEM ALL DOWN
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why do you think we build robots? …lol
ok. my theory is not so nice.
the median for human survival is very thin. temperate, many conditions. just biologically, micro organisms are evolving a million times faster than we can. what if they are winning the war and will kill our species no matter what we try to do to protect ourselves? what if you had the scientific capability to do an accurate projection study for extinction? would you share it? What would it serve to tell everyone that we are screwed anyway?
then you wouldn’t really try too hard to save something impossible to save. you would be working in other directions.
I look at the global response to Fukushima, and this is a new behavior pattern. The Russian response to Chernobyl was incredible in comparison, so we’ve hit a paradigm shift. why?
it’s a tipping point. the global economic, population, resource equation is maxing out. when I was born there were 4 billion people in the world. now there are 8. When my grandfaher was born there was a fraction of that amount.
the beautiful coral reefs of my childhood are long gone now. all of it. the entire planet is being gobbled up voraciously by our hungry herd. I flew over a section of Thailand 10 years ago that was forest, it took hours to cross, it’s all gone now. Most people have no concept of how fast it’s going. China is being decimated at lightning speed. Pristine forests that lasted millenia are now boiling swamps of chemical poison. the countryside there looks like hell on earth from producing plastic crap for people’s “lifestyle”. It’s obscene.
So as much as you may get pissed at Tepco, maybe they’re doing a service by making the land unihabitable for humankind. Anything that can survive there, more power to them. Crying crocodile tears over how bad the disaster hurts people’s “normal” lives doesn’t even begin to address how destructive your “normal” life really is when you look at the entire picture logically.
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Fudu..will be considering this all day.. valid points and interesting point of view. ..could explain why the inaction.. why bother.. polar shift in December anyway.. and if you think radiation is high now.. wait till all the water moves and wipes out/damages carries and spreads all nuclear power plants and waste on earth.. so, if anybody might have survived.. toast! or devolution…back to primordial stew..
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Not only is this an apology for genocide, you are blaming the victims of it. Abominable.
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My whole family is a victim of this. We moved further away from the plant, but there’s nowhere to go really. My wife was 8 1/2 months pregnant when the plant blew up. We went through hell.
I am talking about the truth. My mind changed about everything after the disaster.
Do a little experiment. Don’t throw your garbage out for a year except for organic waste. Keep it in your house.
Seriously.
Look at your contribution to the world. Figure out what is real before you start pontificating or feel so rightous.
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Interesting angle, Fudo.
Like you, I’ve been struck by the huge lack of response to the crisis – normally all sorts of entities show up to “do something” but this one seems to be completely hands-off, all over the world.
My sense is that “they” know the situation is out of control and can never be controlled and that they are paralyzed – deer in the headlights. I don’t know what I would do in their shoes.
There’s an old saying among teachers: “Tell people you are going to make them think and they will love you for it. Actually make them think and they will hate you for it.”
Your post may generate some pushback.
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Yes, the “progress” of civilization has created an incredible toxic stew brewing all over the planet. If only we had known what our actions would bring about ….
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Lots of shills shouting down the anti nukers here on Globe and Mail. Need some help please.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/towns-vie-to-be-the-final-resting-spot-for-canadas-nuclear-garbage/article2302478/
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isogoodhumans, you’re right – the shills are blatant there.
Here’s a stomach-turning example:
“jygsawpuzzle
10:23 PM on January 13, 2012
Bah, when I see headlines like this, it makes me so mad since it really puts nuclear power back when it’s clearly a wise and important energy alternative to oil. Nuclear waste has a half life so unlike plastics waste, which do last forever, after a certain amount of time, the waste is no longer radiative and harmful, whereas plastic will be poisonous _forever_!!!”
—- end of comment from shillville
Nobody is that dumb (are they)?
SHUT THEM ALL DOWN
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I think some believe it
No man is more enslaved than the one that thinks he is free in a golden cage
No man is more stupid than a nuke shill than thinks he is smart
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Ill go Troll Joust a bit, thanks for the heads up.
My German Shepherds told me I ought to help protect the sheeple.
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Maybe some people and companies DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH?
The easiest way to stop the truth from coming out is to squelch all scientific research in that area, or fund only that research which has a 100% ‘known’ outcome, before it even starts. One example might be a study about sugar and how it is good for health, funded by the sugar industry of course…
Bingo; no research, no science, no harm, no lawsuits over harm caused…
Gosh, this is such a BIG MONEY PIT, we cannot let anyone spoil our fun.
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This line has been ‘CHEWING ON ME’ all bloody day! Did it HIT anyone else?
“In the U.S., it’s very difficult to acquire funding to do that work. A lot of people are very frustrated.”
Oh YEAH????? Then where the ‘F’ are they??? Huh? If there are so many ‘frustrated about Fukushima’ SOB’s out there,….why in GOD’S name are they NOT speaking out? Yeah, yeah, yeah,….I know the ‘pus_y’ reason,…fear of people,…loose my job,…..that’s HISTORY almost folks! Time to meet your MAKER. Time to take a GOOD, LONG, DEEP look into your soul.
It is soon,…TOO LATE!
He’d love to ‘WELCOME YOU HOME’, though! That’s just how He is.
Choose TODAY, your BENEDICTION, or your CURSE!
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Yesterday is history,
Tomorrow is a mystery,
But today is a gift.
That is why it is called the “present”.
kung fu panda …..
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Indeed, Shut Them All Down!!!
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http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/reactors.html
China is proposing another 120 nuclear power plants? I gotta be reading this wrong.
The amount of fuel required to run these things with no long term storage, wtf???
Let us be kind, one to another, for we are each of us together in our pain!
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No doubt China plans to take the money and run like they’ve done for the last decade…in their race for economic supremacy, they will continue the pollution of our planet while the elites think they’ve got us outsmarted!!
Now it fits into place why the National Mining Association is lobbying for uranium mining rights in OUR national parks.
There is REAL EVIL in the world that must be brought into the light so it can be dissolved with our LOVEm
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The way I look at it is the accident is still at the beginning of the beginning. How much of the fuel has been contained, really? Uranium and Plutonium. Plutonium and Uranium. Plutonium is everywhere putting out major external doses. Uranium is everywhere putting out major external doses to the environment. The important information that you need to know is out there. People tend to sound a bit pissed and unsatisfied with the efforts and confusion the authorities have exhibited here in the beginning. But I hope I speak for everyone when I extend a heart felt “Thank You”. to those that worked their tails off since March to mitigate this disaster.
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