Graphic shows ‘direct discharge’ going from Fukushima Daiichi reactors into Pacific — Underground flow of contaminated water also indicated (VIDEO)

Published: March 26th, 2013 at 1:35 pm ET
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Title: Powerpoint Presentation: Ken Buesseller
Source: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of the Fukushima Nuclear Accident, Day 1
Author: The Helen Caldicott Foundation
Date Presented: March 11, 2013

Ken Buesseler, Marine Scientist Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute at ~64:15 in

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Published: March 26th, 2013 at 1:35 pm ET
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28 comments to Graphic shows ‘direct discharge’ going from Fukushima Daiichi reactors into Pacific — Underground flow of contaminated water also indicated (VIDEO)

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    And Point #1 above has been falling on the debris coming to the NA West Coast steadily for over two years now, in addition to absorbing the ocean rad contamination.

    Killing off all the sea life between Alaska and Peru is one thing, but wait until the debris coming onto the beaches soon is discovered to be highly radioactive. It's really going to hit the fan, as it will be significantly harder to hide the ELE Fukushima has given us.

    This is why the US government is getting ready for Martial Law now:

    http://www.infowars.com/video-hundreds-of-dhs-armored-trucks-on-the-move/

    Interesting that all this preparation is taking place as quickly as possible, before the debris hits the coasts.


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    • PavewayIII PavewayIII

      Now that cracked me up, TiS. Martial law because the people will riot about radioactive debris? That will be the day. Besides, the EPA has already raised the ALA dosage for Californians to 'whatever the hottest piece of junk is radiating + 5 mrem' Pregnant women and immune-compromised don't have to subtract the bonus rems.

      Turns out the 2,700 Mine-Resistant Armor-Protected (MRAP) thing is an internet myth AGAIN. Navistar's order was from the Navy last year to upgrade Marine MRAPs in Afghanistan. DHS already has 16 Street-sweepers, mostly in Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The 4×4 gun ports are great when dealing with Honduran mothers sneaking across the border with their children or a 50-year-old starving Panamanian looking for work.

      http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41713_Fact_Checking-_Obama_DHS_Purchases_2700_Light-Armored_Tanks/comments/#ctop


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        "As we reported yesterday, concerns about the apparent arms build-up are growing, with retired United States Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow sending a letter to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) warning that the ammo purchases represent “a bold threat of war by that agency (DHS), and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America.”"

        "Although members of Congress are treating the matter with the seriousness it deserves, the mainstream and leftist media have attempted to ridicule the entire issue as a conspiracy theory, with Atlantic Wire even suggesting that the story had its origins in a debunked email, a report that completely failed to even mention the admitted fact that the DHS had purchased around 2 billion bullets."

        http://www.infowars.com/dhs-to-buy-360000-more-rounds-of-hollow-point-ammunition/

        And why would DHS tell anyone the truth?

        'Coal Ash Spills Too Dangerous To Reveal To Public, Says DHS'

        "The pollution is so toxic, so dangerous, that an enemy of the United States — or a storm or some other disrupting event — could easily cause them to spill out and lay waste to any area nearby."

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/coal-ash-spills-too-dange_n_214739.html

        And we wonder why we can't get any honest government information on Fukushima?

        'Smile, and the coal ash won't get you.'


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        • yogda yogda

          "People will die from lack of knowledge"

          The MSM is guilty of treason to the American public.


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        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          Hollow point, that is the GOOD stuff.

          How many billions of bullets does it take to kill everyone on the planet?


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        • PavewayIII PavewayIII

          No need to convince me, TiS – I'm no big fan of the Stazi. Facts are facts, though. There are a lot of other used military armored vehicles in law enforcement and DHS. The military has some program where they can get them for next to nothing.

          Hollow-points are the *kind* of round they should be ordering. They have no reason to be ordering FMJ military ammo. The number of rounds is way too high, but these contracts are not for immediate fulfillment. Federal Cartridge will need a year and a half just to manufacture that many rounds. By then, the DHS will decide on a different standard caliber, order new weapons and put in orders for a zillion new rounds.

          They're part of the U.S. government. Why should anything they do have any purpose, evil or otherwise? When you work at the bottom of a waterfall gushing torrents of taxpayer money, well… it's kind of like it belongs to you. It's begging you to spend it before some other slimy politician get's their grubby little hands on it. "Hollow points? Add six zeros to that number before I sign it, sonny. We're protecting the homeland!"


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        • We Not They Finally

          Nothing is scarier than the threat of radiation. But aside from that, it's healthy to be mighty scared of the lunatics with arsenals of assault weapons who are "the patriots who will protect us against the government thugs." Not buying it. This is a violent gun-crazy me-first country. Anyone sane wants LESS violence, not more. By the way, John Cornyn himself is a pretty scary guy. Would not want to follow him to some home-made arsenal in the name of "patriotism."


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      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        In a recent movie about soldiers in MRAPS going up against mines, the soldiers came out of it alive, but with brain damage from the concussion blast wave, which the MRAPS do not protect against.

        Plus you get knocked around in there quite a bit.

        Watch for US soldiers coming back as brain damaged shells of their former selves.. whole bodies but with missing minds.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        PavewayIII, I have great respect for you, but I think you may be mistaken about the DHS's purchase of the MRAP's.

        This is a credible source, made of of people who have taken a public oath of office, and includes people in law enforcement, or members who take their oath to defend the U.S. Constitution seriously:

        http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/03/04/dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-mraps-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/


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    • We Not They Finally

      The debris scenario? For sure. The martial law scenario? Maybe. But NO WAY do I want to see a bunch of gun-happy maniacs out there with their arsenals of assault weapons and branding themselves "patriots." Many of those people even claim that Sandy Hook was "a hoax" and they either weren't real children, or they weren't real parents, or the tears people wept weren't real. Most UNFORTUNATELY, you even have people like Christina Consolo (who has done great work with Fukushima) in that camp — that these were all "actors or CIA agents" with the "REAL agenda" of taking away people guns. We (husband and me) find that patently disgusting, and dangerous for America, which is homicidal enough as is. So if (God forbid) we wind up with a horror like martial law, let's at least act like loving, civilized humans helping one another through crisis.


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      We predict Pacific ocean front property will in the years ahead be hard to give away, as radioactive spray washes over the homes and makes the toxic waste dumps. It is not hard to imagine people abandoning towns along the Pacific ocean, and for several miles inland, where ocean spray and fog contaminated with FUKU radiation deposits itself. It will be interesting to see how much comes ashore when the FUKU radiation finally gets to US shores from the ocean. The US has already been hit by the air carrying FUKU poisons.. Now the slower train of death is coming via the ocean currents. 80% or more of FUKU radiation ended up in the ocean and is still going there, with no let up in sight.

      If that is not enough to do it, the mounds of garbage and debris from japan will turn off the tourists and make ghost towns of anyplace on the Pacific ocean side. Not enough money in the world to clean all that up.


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      The above graphic ignores the plutonium rods blown out of #3 into the ocean for several kilometers.

      It also ignores the three melted coriums and the radiation coming off of them both into the groundwater, air and into ocean.

      SOP.. minimize, confuse and obfuscate… makes nuclear look so darn good, no one can turn it down.

      After all, the poisons it releases are all invisible, and no one but the experts can measure them.


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  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    this would appear to be the online archives of the 2-day symposium!!!

    http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=hcf#


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  • The armoured cars are probably the only rad proof vehicles they've got for moving the worst offending debris. Not alot of heavy metal is going to be in the debris, that's all off Japan, except for the occasional hull.


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    • PavewayIII PavewayIII

      Plutonium and Cesium are alpha emitters – you don't need a rad proof vehicle.

      25% of time, the sneaky Pu-238 atom will spontaneously fission, not alpha decay. Being showered with fast neutrons is bad, but nobody can measure them with regular rad meters. What you don't know won't hurt you.

      The half-value shielding for 5MeV Pu-238/39/40 neutrons is an inch of lead. Five or six sheets should reduce your unknown exposure to a safer unknown level. I think a 5MeV neutron will travel around 12 feet in open air otherwise.

      The really bad forms of plutonium and cesium have already been deposited in the U.S. The aerosolized metal would have left Fukushima as particles <.01 micron in size. If they attached to a dust particle that was less than a micron, then they would have just floated around the atmosphere until washed out by rain.

      Plutonium oxide is generally in a hydroxide form in the atmosphere – it will eat into concrete and continue penetrating it for years. If any concrete floats in, DO NOT lick it.

      Particles from .01 to .1 micron are the ones that will travel deep into your lungs and may stay there. A SCUBA tank may be your best bet for protection behind the six inches of lead.


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    • PavewayIII PavewayIII

      Sorry – Cesium 137 is a gamma and a beta emitter, and the fast neutron from plutonium spontaneous fission will travel a long way if it doesn't bump into things.

      - It decays 93% of the time producing .513 MeV beta to Barium 137m, which decays within minutes producing a .662 Mev gamma to Ba-137

      - It decays 7% of the time with a 1.175 Mev beta to Ba-137

      The .513 MeV beta can travel up to six feet in air, and the 1.175 MeV beta can travel about twelve.

      A geiger counter will pick up the presence of Cs-137 indirectly through the gamma of the Ba-137m decay (half life 2.55 min). No Ba-137m will have survived the trip. It will be from a recent Cs-137 decay.

      The fast neutron from plutonium will travel


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      • Paveway111

        What do you think is going on now with the spent fuel pools?

        Do you think Tepco actually was able to fix the cooling at the pools after reporting all power down last week?

        The webcam imagery looks bad but I cannot tell whether its actually showing deteriorating conditions or not….


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        • PavewayIII PavewayIII

          'Fixed' is a relative term. I would say they're in a marginally less lethal state. Or, "no immediate danger," in TEPCO-speak.

          I still don't think they pulled that one new fuel can from the SPF. I pointed out before that it looked like they were pulling it from the reactor for some reason.

          The Co-60 deposits show something is seriously screwed up. Co-59 and 60 are leached out of stainless steel in the nuclear river. I expect them to find a few atoms of it in the SPF, but to find great enough quantities to precipitate in chunks like that? Reactor water from a reactor at power doesn't leach it out of stainless that fast.

          It's impossible for that much to form in a SPF unless the fuel bundles are corroding to dust. Over-enthusiastic boron application might do that. What are the implications of a crumble-down of fuel pellet containers? Well, you can't cool a pile of pellets properly on the bottom of the SPF.

          Their hodge-podge cooling is troublesome, and TEPCO already proved it's incompetent at power distribution. A pristine fuel bundle with Co-60? That's just disturbing.


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  • TalonThorn

    Keep in mind, THIS is what they know. It obviously doesn't include what they don't know…such as what the corium is doing in the ground/groundwater below the containment.


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    • We Not They Finally

      Michio Kaku [nuclear physicist] said that these were not just melt-DOWNS, they were melt-THROUGHS. And it was something that had not happened before. It's a highly dangerous "all bets are off."


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      • Sickputer

        We also knew nearly two years ago there was corium outside the buildings…the NRC's unfathomable Melt-Outs:

        Blast from the past:

        Sickputer
        September 11, 2011 at 11:40 pm
        What is disingenuous about this article? The Tepco taboo word: corium.
        Excerpt: “But Fukushima No. 1 will still have a long way to go before the flooded plant’s reactors are stable enough to be considered safe, experts warn. The main reason is the abundance of highly radioactive water.”
        Oh really? The main reason is the highly radioactive water? And what in the name of Buddha do they think is CAUSING the hot nuclear water? Oh yeah…the runaway fuel! The melt-down, melt-through, and melt-out Cadillac-sized self-perpetuating inextinquishable nuclear fireballs.
        Tepco will act surprised when the Blobs (corium) really begin to make their way into the vernacular when they blow the coop."

        http://enenews.com/japan-times-melted-fuel-escaping-holes-cracks-could-years-stop-leaking


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      • He also called the U.S. a "rogue state", interestingly enough – in a recent YouTube video. Methinks China is beginning to take on that role as well (re: Tibet, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan).


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