Guardian: Japan PM “feared the country would collapse” — “It was truly a spine-chilling thought”

Published: September 8th, 2011 at 6:16 pm ET
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Fukushima nuclear disaster: PM at the time feared Japan would collapse, Guardian by Justin McCurry, September 2011:

Japan’s prime minister at the height of the nuclear crisis has said he feared the country would collapse [...]

In candid interviews with Japanese newspapers, Naoto Kan, who resigned this month, said that at one point he believed the disaster could become many times worse than Chernobyl.

“It was truly a spine-chilling thought,” he told the Tokyo Shimbun, adding that he foresaw a situation in which greater Tokyo’s 30 million people would have to be evacuated, a move that would “compromise the very existence of the Japanese nation”.

In the first week of the crisis Tepco played down speculation that fuel rods had melted after the quake and tsunami crippled the reactors’ cooling systems. “The power was totally lost and there was no cooling capacity,” Kan said. “I knew what that meant and I thought, ‘This is going to be a disaster’.” [...]

Published: September 8th, 2011 at 6:16 pm ET
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64 comments to Guardian: Japan PM “feared the country would collapse” — “It was truly a spine-chilling thought”

  • …Some American Citizen/Age group will figure this out sooner or later…

    A simple logical solution is for all citizens to simply stop paying their taxes

    …Starve the Government!!!

    …How can the Govt gonna arrest 300 million citizens?

    …no protests, no loss of life either….Brings down any govt real quick

    No revenues, no Government.

    red red wine


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    • larry-andrew-nils

      why don’t they do a form of what i did…

      i revoked consent to be governed via a hand-delivered NOTICE to Service-Canada.

      united-declaration-of-human-rights: no one may be compelled to belong to an association… simple.

      and the evil-doers become liable for their actions after the switch to common-law…. you see, they are within their laws now, but if you move them all into common-law situation, you can try-and-hang them all.

      their system allows evil; the common-law system does not allow evil.

      let’s make the change… i did it.


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      • theypoisonus

        Hay Larry,

        I would gladly do that, I just don’t know how.
        I will be 65 shortly, they can’t hurt me, and I refuse to fear my govt. any more than I already do.

        I far from condone the actions of this govt.

        Got a link of what you refer to? A ‘form’ letter or some such thing?

        I would gladly hand serve one to them. You are right and I spoke with you a couple of months ago about this subject.

        Any further info would be appreciated.
        Thanx,
        Peace


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        • larry-andrew-nils

          the notice was titled:

          NOTICE hand-delivered to Service BC in Dease Lake, BC, Canada on friday, June 11, 2010.

          from Larry-Andrew-Nils: Uhrig
          c/o Box 16
          Dease Lake, British Columbia
          [V0C 1L0]

          phone: (250) 771-5875

          TO ALL CONCERNED:

          I, Larry-Andrew-Nils: Uhrig, do hereby return all of my societal identification, as i no longer wish to be enrolled with your organization.

          I return my birth certificate, my social insurance card, my health card, my drivers license, and my passport (each attached by paperclip).

          thank you.


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          • theypoisonus

            YIKES, Larry,

            I gotta give up my birth certificate ( which is costing me 1100.00 right now to have rectified as I was a WWII (‘black market’ war child sold for the cost of a hospital bill) and my drivers licence, etc.???

            That scares me, I have to drive to get groceries etc.

            I just want to D-I-V-O-R-C-E them, like in the C&W song. I don’t wanna get busted for no drivers licience or give up my passport , which I want so badly if I ever talk the DH into ‘getting out of Dodge’ while the ‘gettin’ is good’ so to speak.

            Hmmmm. gotta thunk about this one. NO SPELLING ERROR, just joking ! :)

            So, if I may ask, how do you drive, etc legally? I don’t wanna get personal, honest, just wondering.

            OH>. on a side line. I found a nice steel greehouse today I am thinking of buying. Then I can ‘grow what I need’ if you get my drift, and also won’t have to bring in all the poor outside plants that suffer so badly during winter inside.

            Peace and Thanx. :)


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          • larry-andrew-nils

            hey theypoisonus, people are driving with no plates under this system.

            i drive a bicycle, but will buy a car soon and drive with no plates… i need to get to the dump for my garbage… so i will soon get a car… it will not be registered nor will have bc-plates.

            i’m still working on things for myself, i’ll tell all as i progress.

            they’ve got a lot of good people trapped by fear, but there is nothing that can not be overcome.

            the prize is freedom.

            you don’t need a passport for land or sea travel. they make you show passport for air travel… but for how long because people are changing things.

            in a common-law structure, nuclear sites will be built over golden bowels for safeties-sake.

            the biblical earth is the milky-way galaxy; this is the “earth” made and given to man to rule over.

            how do this without nuclear?

            we use gold bowels for all new nuke plants. and we take the price of gold and we make it stable; we have gold as an industrial metal, and not as a god.


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          • eyeb1 eyeb1

            larry you should look into the implications of using a postal code .. it means that it is a commercial communication/transaction ..

            and that is what you are trying to avoid ..

            the sovereignty/freeman idea/movement has a great deal of interesting and conflicting information ..

            some of the best information that i have found on the issues is presented in this and the other videos connected to this group and or channel on youtube ..

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ansZVx3nU

            http://www.youtube.com/user/Owlmon

            http://allcreatorsgifts.org/


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          • larry-andrew-nils

            to eyeb1, i was told that them there square brackets in the postal code just means i send mail inside of that designation, not that i belong to it.

            or something like that… but i don’t even care. if i have to deal with something i can do that if there is an issue.

            i want to live my life with joy, not in fear; it would take entirely too much time to guard against any possible problem.

            look, people know my intent and if they can point out something in the spirit of helping, that’s cool, but i’m not looking into anything anymore about how to be free. i am free now.

            if there is a problem it will surely be caused by someone who dislikes my freedom… where could we find such a person?… would they want to show themselves publicly?

            if someone wants to call me on using the post, i would say tell me how to use the service in order that i do not offend you, but do realize that i have the right to send and receive mail.

            should i use general delivery?… maybe you could go find out for me.

            robert menard of the world-freeman-society told me to use the square brackets and i’ll be fine.

            you could go check on that for me but i’m done with study unless an issue of concern arises.

            blah, blah blah, that’s what i think of rules.


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        • larry-andrew-nils

          now i have just gotten hooked-up with bc-hydro, our electric company, under my diminutive name, “andy uhrig” with no identification whatsoever… they just needed a few extra months rental, which i get back with interest after one year…. you see, BC hydro knows that no one may be compelled to belong to an association.

          asked if they would ever care about my ever growing power-consumption, bc-hydro replied via agent that they would never ever ever care because this is a private-account.

          i grow marijuana and am going to grow as much as possible and who can stop this as i do not belong to an association (club), nor am i forced to follow their rule.

          the important part about revoking consent is that you do it as publicly as possible…. this is not something you can do in secret.

          good luck.

          when we all revoke consent to be governed, we all become the new governors.

          and we have a little hanging-party together.


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          • theypoisonus

            Ah, I see. I don’t want to go back on serious pain meds again, and as my pain is mostly neurological, the pain meds never really helped that much.

            I went off them ‘cold turkey’ about 3 years ago, but as the arthur grows so does the pain. I have found also, that what I did in my reckless youth, turned out to be very beneficial for nerve pain in my old age. BUT, I don’t wanna deal with the types of people today that
            one has to, to find ‘nerve pain meds’.

            So… life goes on? sorta.

            Thanx for watching and responding. Much appreciated.

            Did you see the article I posted yesterday about Toshiba buying out Shaw from Westinghouse?
            Seems Nuclear is here to stay, or at very least, Toshiba belives so. :(


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    • TraderGreg

      Red Wine – they can survive without any taxes, etc. These assholes can print $1 Trillion of dollars, deposit it into banks (aka primary dealers), and blow it into $50T via the fractional reserve mechanism, by lending to big corporations to invest in China. Then they will hire the dogs of war from the Sahara region, that will come to your home, and eat your liver.

      I solute your noble intentions, but with all respect to you, you underestimate the ability of the asshole elites to survive.


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      • theypoisonus

        You just said a mouthfull.

        They print money without anything to back it.
        This is called fiat money.. I personally call it monopoly money , not only for the fact that it is baseless, with nothing behind it but out taxes now, but that it represents a “false currency used in a game” which is what is going on.

        Great post. Kudos


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  • the Japanese havent’ figured it out yet.

    …Neither have the Americans…

    545 vs. 300,000,000 People

    “”Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?…..”"

    http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/08/545-vs-300000000-people.html


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    • Al-Chemisto

      I would say that your math is a little off.

      First every single employee of the Bank coerces a continuation of the present experience, its their job perspective.

      All Police, Attorneys, Judges, Priests, Bank Employee, CPAs, etc, etc all form an infrastructure that perpetuates the system.

      And then there is “everybody” forming a huge coercive vector: “I don’t want to go into *scary* new experience land, even though this one is very scary, its my happy blanket!”

      So the math is far far from 545 to 0.3B. :)


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    • ocifferdave

      “”Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

      Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?…..””

      I’m passing that quote on to the guy that always forwards me interesting emails everyday. You know. THAT guy. Everybody knows THAT guy. :)


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      • theypoisonus

        No ociffer dave,

        I don’t know THAT guy.. but forward them to me.. I love contrivercial stuff along with any and I MEAN ANY corrupt govt. stuff to dig into.

        THAT guy is right. We don’t have ‘political parties’ anymore. We have corporate shills mascarading as politicians.
        65% of lobbyists used to be congressional or senate reps.
        You pay your dues and learn the landscape around DC and you ‘elevate’ to the BIG TIME where all the real bux are !

        :)


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      VERY INTERESTING THREAD red red wine Al-Chemisto ocifferdave theypoisonus

      POSTED IT HERE:
      Come on JOIN THE FUN!
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/kenzaburo-oe-nobel-winner-japan-nuclear_n_950085.html

      WHY? BECAUSE WE NEED MORE SPEAKING OUT AT HP –
      BECAUSE IT HAS MILLIONS OF VIEWERS.
      nuff said
      Have at it PLEASE!


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      • theypoisonus

        Whoop,

        OK, I will reluctantly go over there, but you better be there..:)

        My post is temporarily being held.. LOL

        I guess because I got tired of their cookies, they haven’t seen me for years and had to confirm I was sorta legit?

        Geesh.. Freedon of Speach? Yeah, right ! :)


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  • Edward Edward

    That explains everything, naturally we excuse you from lying and covering up this ongoing nightmare to the entire world.


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  • Blown Camaro

    “Japan’s prime minister at the height of the nuclear crisis has said he feared the country would collapse.”

    Oh! That is much better. See, here we are on the downhill slope of things and all along I thought we had UNCONTROLLABLE NUCLEAR FISSION occuring outside of the reactor vessels (yes, plural) and things were only getting worse.

    Sorry, my bad!


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  • shaktasna999

    Nice.Just freaking peachy. Well thank you very much for the excuse. I feel EVER so much better now.

    *insert really long list of curse words here*


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    • theypoisonus

      To all above.

      Someone on FukusihimaDiary.com posted a couple of days ago that they went to the Imperial Palace ( which is pretty nice ) and tested the water in ground and drains ditches around it.

      Bad readings… :)

      Nuclear radiation doesn’t just ‘get’ the poor, or under privlidged. :)

      Whatcha’ wanna bet that the inhabitors of the Imperial Palace are ‘out of town’ for a trip.


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  • Yeah I think Kan knows Japan is Fukied. Its just going to take longer to play out. In article it explains why large areas including Tokyo are not being evacuated. The radiation will take years to kill not like say a flood where if you don’t evacuate the 10 o’clock news will have video footage of drowning children and flooded homes.

    “he foresaw a situation in which greater Tokyo’s 30 million people would have to be evacuated, a move that would “compromise the very existence of the Japanese nation”. Yeah so we won’t evacuate because there won’t be any nasty images on the news. So convenient radiation is invisible and cancer deaths wont happen today.

    Article shows if you read between the lines Kan chose slow collapse to protect economic interests over quick collapse protecting peoples health. Don’t expect anything different in North America.


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  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    In candid interviews with Japanese newspapers, Naoto Kan, who resigned this month, said that at one point he believed the disaster could become many times worse than Chernobyl.

    “Could become”? More like has become…..
    Politicians are such god damned fools.


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  • Ariana

    When are they going to realize that Fuckushima IS MANY TIMES WORSE THAN CHERNOBYL?! I am SO SICK of reading how they thought it COULD be many times worse. IT FUCKING IS MANY TIMES WORSE. DAMN!
    Sorry about all the profanity… I am just really REALLY PISSED OFF. It has been very difficult dealing with being perpetually pissed since March.
    Hope you guys don’t hate me for my rant. No one else will even listen. They all think I’m nuts.


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  • James2

    Everything he feared in these “candid interviews” has come to pass.’

    Japan has collapsed. Not completely – yet. The accident is many times Chernobyl. Tokyo needs to be evacuated.

    That’s why he quit. He couldn’t stomach lying anymore.

    But you know – he should have had the balls to get up there and tell the people that this thing is a monster. He should have told them that Japan is facing the end of its existence as a world power and he should have told them they need to at least move their children. He did none of that – he is a coward and a liar – as is the President of the United States.


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    • theypoisonus

      James,
      You said he couldn’t lie anymore?

      Naw.. he could, but the outcry of the people over rode him. He ‘lost face’ to a degree and his stature as a leader and being ‘supreme’ was lost.

      as far as ‘having balls’ I think he showed them when he quit ! :)


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  • theypoisonus

    @ Larry

    Gosh, I could not get down the end of my street probably , or at least get to town without a plate on my vehicle.

    I’m going to check in on what you say and see how to do it ‘stateside’. In case you haven’t noticed, this country is becoming a Police State very quickly. They went from wearing uniforms to vests, helmets and carrying these dam shields of plastic that look like Romans once used.

    It is scarey in the US these days.
    I just found out today from a seller who was in the garden center at Home Depot, that ‘my town’ which is highly religious, and I’m not, is on the US .gov list of one of the top 10 hate crimes places in America.
    I almost sank into the pavement when she told me that. THis is religious cult city, and it is one of the centers of hate crimes?

    Gosh.. I thought ‘religious’ people were so kind and forgiving and all. :)

    Oh Well…. I will learn something every day I live. Hasn’t changed in 65 years. :)


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  • dpl dpl

    Shouldn’t Kan be receiving his presidential freedom medal by now.


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  • James2

    You know, as I remember back, the only guy who told it straight as he saw it was the Emporer of Japan.

    Didn’t he use some code words like we are in “grave danger”. He stood up and told the people what they were up against – before they whisked him off to Argentina.


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  • theypoisonus

    Whoopie last post on this issue.

    They are gonna moderate.. ahemmmm my every post, then they win.

    They let the second one go, but ‘moderated’ the first one, maybe because I asked who you were now over there..
    NoNukes2012 or WeCanDoBetter09?

    The second ID sounded like you over here , so I questioned if you had changed ID’s.

    My faux pas? sorry… :)


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    YAHOO!!
    THEYPOISONUS HAS JOINED THE HP CROWD!!
    Tomorrow is another day for me though!
    BUT! I Love it!!
    EXHAUSTION HERE so see you tomorrow TPU!!


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  • patb2009

    In the first week of the crisis Tepco played down speculation that fuel rods had melted after the quake and tsunami crippled the reactors’ cooling systems. “The power was totally lost and there was no cooling capacity,” Kan said. “I knew what that meant and I thought, ‘This is going to be a disaster’.

    So, the Fuel rods have melted in Rac 1,2 and 3 and cooling is comprimised, how isnt’ this a disaster?


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Giving voice to the victims of the nuclear disaster:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14802398


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  • acid Lab acid Lab

    the interviews that kan is doing are the classic workings of a two-bit politician in full damage control mode.

    isn’t it nice to know that the prime minisiter of a nation is the one responsible for deciding whether to vent a reactor in full meltdown… lol. or to forcefully tell the reactor operator not to abandon the plant… lmao.

    he makes himself out to be the hero… what a laugh. a real hero would have instantly recognized that TEPCO didn’t give a shit about japan, or anyone in it, and immediately dialed the hotline to Los Alamos and/or Mikhail Gorbachev.

    instead, he did what he did.


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    • James2

      They told him, basically on March 15th there was nothing left to be done at the plant, and that has been true. They have not done anything to contain, or limit the releases of radiation since then.

      He says he told them to stay, and they have at considerable health risk to the poor individuals that have been hired to work there. Everything since March 15th has been window dressing. I noticed yesterday somebody linked to a series of pictures of the “cleanup” that has been happening, and they have done a bunch of work – but all of it is piss in the ocean – it doesn’t make a bit of difference.

      The Japanese people should be looking to throw this guy in jail right now.

      However our gutless leaders in the US are no better. They are playing exactly the same game.


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  • BREAKING: San Onfre Nuke plant off line !!!!!!!


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  • San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station

    Location of San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station in California
    Country United States
    Location San Diego County, California
    Coordinates 33°22′8″N 117°33′18″WCoordinates: 33°22′8″N 117°33′18″W
    Status Operational
    Commission date Unit 1: January 1, 1968
    Unit 2: August 8, 1983
    Unit 3: April 1, 1984
    Licence expiration Unit 2: February 16, 2022
    Unit 3: November 15, 2022
    Decommission date Unit 1: November 30, 1992
    Operator(s) Southern California Edison
    Architect(s) Bechtel Power Corporation, a subsidiary of Bechtel[citation needed]
    Reactor information
    Reactors operational 1 x 1172 MW
    1 x 1178 MW
    Reactor type(s) pressurized water reactor
    Reactor supplier(s) Westinghouse (Unit 1)
    Combustion Engineering (Units 2 & 3)
    Power generation information
    Annual generation 17,204 GW·h
    Website
    http://www.sce.com/…/SanOnofreNuclearGeneratingStation/
    As of 2008-11-25


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  • The San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station (SONGS) is a nuclear power plant located on the Pacific coast of California. The 84-acre (34 ha) site is in the northwestern corner of San Diego County, south of San Clemente, and surrounded by the San Onofre State Park and next to the I-5 Highway.
    Unit 1 is no longer in service and has been dismantled. It is being used as a storage site for spent fuel. It had a spherical containment of concrete and steel with the smallest wall being 6 feet (1.8 m) thick. This reactor was a first generation Westinghouse pressurized water reactor that operated for 25 years, closing permanently in 1992. Units 2 and 3, Combustion Engineering pressurized water reactors, continue to operate and generate 1,172 MWe and 1,178 MWe respectively.
    The July 12, 1982 edition of Time (magazine) states, “The firm Bechtel was further embarrassed in 1977, when it installed a 420-ton nuclear-reactor vessel backwards” at San Onofre.[1]
    The plant is operated by Southern California Edison. Edison International, parent of SCE, holds 78.2% ownership in the plant; San Diego Gas & Electric Company, 20%; and the City of Riverside Utilities Department, 1.8%. The plant employs over 2000 people.
    The plant is located in Nuclear Regulatory Commission Region IV.
    Contents [hide]
    1 Surrounding population
    2 Environmental mitigation
    3 Safety culture
    4 Seismic risk
    5 In popular culture
    6 See also
    7 References
    8 External links
    [edit]Surrounding population

    The Nuclear Regulatory Commission defines two emergency planning zones around nuclear power plants: a plume exposure pathway zone with a radius of 10 miles (16 km), concerned primarily with exposure to, and inhalation of, airborne radioactive contamination, and an ingestion pathway zone of about 50 miles (80 km), concerned primarily with ingestion of food and liquid contaminated by radioactivity.[2]
    The 2010 U.S. population within 10 miles (16 km) of San Onofre was 92,687, an increase of 50.0 percent in a decade, according to an analysis of U.S. Census data for msnbc.com. The 2010 U.S. population within 50 miles (80 km) was 8,460,508, an increase of 14.9 percent since 2000. Cities within 50 miles include San Diego (45 miles to city center).[3]
    [edit]Environmental mitigation

    Strong, spherical containment buildings around the reactors are designed to prevent unexpected releases of radiation. The closest tectonic fault line is the Cristianitos fault, which is considered inactive. Southern California Edison states the station was “built to withstand a 7.0 magnitude earthquake directly under the plant”.[4]
    Unlike many pressurized water reactors, but like some other seaside facilities in Southern California, the San Onofre plant uses seawater for cooling, and thus lacks the iconic large cooling towers typically associated with nuclear generating stations. However, changes to water-use regulations may require construction of such cooling towers in the future to avoid further direct use of seawater. Limited available land next to the reactor would likely require the towers to be built on the opposite side of the Interstate 5 highway.[5]
    [edit]Safety culture

    According to the NRC, workers at San Onofre are “afraid they will be retaliated against if they bring up safety problems, something that’s against the rules”.[6] As of 2011, there has been progress on the issue, says the NRC, but there is still more work to do. San Clemente Green, is an environmental group opposed to the continued operation of the San Onofre nuclear plant.[6]
    [edit]Seismic risk

    The Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s estimate of the risk each year of an earthquake intense enough to cause core damage to the reactor at San Onofre was 1 in 58,824, according to an NRC study published in August 2010.[7][8]
    [edit]In popular culture

    Lists of miscellaneous information should be avoided. Please relocate any relevant information into appropriate sections or articles. (March 2011)
    In the James W. Huston book, Fallout, Pakistani Air Force Pilots attempt to bomb San Onofre using stolen California Air National Guard F-16s.
    The generating station was also featured in the 1983 film Koyaanisqatsi.
    In the James Bond book License Renewed by John Gardner, it was one of six nuclear power stations in the terrorist/blackmail plot “Meltdown” planned by The Laird of Murcaldy, Anton Murik.
    The original San Onofre Unit-1 Power Plant was used as the “Gotham City” Atomic Reactor in the 1960s Batman TV show starring Adam West.
    In the science fiction novel Timescape, by Gregory Benford, the nuclear plants at San Onofre raised the water temperature along the adjacent coast, which stimulated aquatic life.
    The plant’s two large containment structures are briefly shown in the 1988 movie The Naked Gun when detective Frank Drebin (Leslie Nielsen) talks about how everything reminds him of his ex-girlfriend (quote: “Everywhere I look something reminds me of her”).
    In the 2011 TV series The Event, the fuel rods were removed and transported from San Onofre Nuclear Generation Station to thwart the aliens’ plan to steal the uranium to build their specialized transport array. The transport array was utilized to transport the citizens from their own planet to Earth.
    [edit]See also

    Diablo Canyon Power Plant
    Anti-nuclear movement in California
    [edit]References

    ^ “The Master Builders from Bechtel”. Time. July 12, 1982.
    ^ http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/emerg-plan-prep-nuc-power-bg.html
    ^ Bill Dedman, Nuclear neighbors: Population rises near US reactors, msnbc.com, April 14, 2011 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42555888/ns/us_news-life/ Accessed May 1, 2011.
    ^ “L.A. Now”. Los Angeles Times.
    ^ “State to power plants: stop sucking in seawater”. The Orange County Register.
    ^ a b Onell R. Soto (April 28, 2011). “Anti-nuclear protest planned at NRC meeting”. SignOnSanDiego.
    ^ Bill Dedman, “What are the odds? US nuke plants ranked by quake risk,” msnbc.com, March 17, 2011 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42103936/ Accessed April 19, 2011.
    ^ http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/NEWS/quake%20nrc%20risk%20estimates.pdf
    [edit]External links

    “NRC: San Onofre – Unit 1″. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. February 7, 2011. Retrieved 2011-03-17.
    “San Onofre 2 Pressurized Water Reactor”. Operating Nuclear Power Reactors. U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). February 14, 2008. Retrieved 2008-11-25.
    “San Onofre 3 Pressurized Water Reactor”. Operating Nuclear Power Reactors. NRC. February 14, 2008. Retrieved 2008-11-25.
    SCE SONGS webpage
    Edison SONGS webpage
    Why Domes at San Onofre from North County Times
    So. Calif. nuclear plant worker faked fire checks


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  • So

    PWR Reactor…

    Reactor 2 and 3 are in commission,

    Reactor 1 decommissioned.

    Now a spent fuel pool for entire site…

    = Huge amount of fuel in reactor 1…

    Gil Alexander, a spokesman for Southern California Edison, said the power outage did not cause any safety issues. Alexander said a fluxation in power caused the reactors to shut down at 3:38 p.m. but that the overall plant continues to have power.
    He said the system worked as it was supposed to during a loss of power.
    Across San Diego, businesses are closed, traffic is snarled and the trolley system is down. San Diego International Airport was on backup generators.
    The city of San Diego has set up its emergency operations center.
    Sheriff’s officials told Fox 5 San Diego that many of its substations were without power. Utility officials are trying to figure out what cause the outage.
    [Updated at 5:14 p.m.: SDG&E said both its power supplies were compromised, though it is unclear exactly how. Lines from Arizona and from the north appeared to fail, the utility said.
    "Hot days in a row like we have had create lots of power flowing. Could have had an impact," SDG&E said in a statement on Twitter.]


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  • Ariana

    Second rant in 24 hours:
    A.) Wasn’t Chernobyl technically a huge fluxation of power (after they fucked up that test?)
    B.) Sadly, when you mention Fukushima or Chernobyl to a lot of people, they have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Shouldn’t Chernobyl be in the world history books by now? Or are we still trying to hide the dangers of nuclear power by omitting that one from school curriculum? (I know the answer to that…)


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  • many moons

    HEY________________POSTS MISSING!!!!!!
    Where are yesterday’s posts about the Fuku worker pointing at the camera, and the news story about how Fukushima is a large experiment in radiation??????


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