Gundersen: It brought me to tears — U.S. students kept in classroom with radiation levels off the scale — Yet kids of nuclear workers were evacuated (AUDIO)

Published: March 24th, 2013 at 2:00 pm ET


Title: Nuclear Power Special
Source: Coast to Coast AM
Host: John B. Wells
Date: March 23, 2013

At ~35:00 in

Arnie Gundersen, Fairewinds’ chief engineer: Since I’ve been talking about Fuksuhima, I got an email that brought me to tears.

It was a woman who was in 10th grade at the time of the [Three Mile Island] accident. She was in chemistry and they were studying radiation and they had a Geiger counter hanging out the window for the entire semester.

They walk into the class at 10:00 in the morning of the accident and the Geiger counter is pegged.

So the teacher goes to phone as a responsible citizen, he calls Governor Thornburgh and tells him, “Look, I’m in Middleburg, I’ve got a pegged Geiger counter here. What should I do?”

Gov. Thornburgh’s office told this high school teacher, “Don’t do anything, we know all about it.”

So they kept the kids in school, and who got evacuated were the parents of the people who worked at the power plant, they all came by and grabbed their kids and got out of there. And the kids that didn’t have the inside scoop wound up staying in that town and got high exposures.

So do I think my country’s going to be any different than the Japanese? No way.

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Published: March 24th, 2013 at 2:00 pm ET


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18 comments to Gundersen: It brought me to tears — U.S. students kept in classroom with radiation levels off the scale — Yet kids of nuclear workers were evacuated (AUDIO)

  • weeman

    The dollar should say " not to be trusted" and the constitution should be changed from we the people to we the elite, we're did Obama go in beginning Argentina ? That is we're the bunker is if you want in.

  • Too bad Arnie is right. Japan was conquored by USA its people freed and a capital free enterprise democratic system or rather the promise of such espoused to the people. See how democracy works in a nuclear disaster. It doesn't. The crisis is controlled by spin. A non evacuation occurs to avoid panic rather then radiation.
    If a reactor goes south in Canada Europe or USA expect the same shoddy treatment our Japanese friends received.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Unfortunately, the Japanese have turned the tables. They now own all the nuclear engineering companies and oil companies in the US, and hence the media in the US.

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        GE and Hitachi formed an alliance. Hitachi doesn't 'own' GE. Headquartered in the US, in North America the nuclear division of GE is GE-Hitachi. In Japan, it's called Hitachi-GE.

        GE designed the shoddy BWR's at Fukushima, and they should still be held criminally liable for a large portion of what has gone wrong.

        Any product liability lawyers out there that can chime in?

        And the Japanese certainly don't 'own' any of the US oil companies, anne. They belong to the East Coast and British royalty.


          statements that the Japanese are steering the American ship are duplicitous, at best. But the closing statement that the Japanese are in control of American media, exposes the need to get us all looking in another direction…

        • ion jean ion jean

          You are making so much sense

          Let's stop being the guinea pig/sheeple tax slaves/human capital and live like free people again

          No Nukes

    • harengus_acidophilus

      "See how democracy works in a nuclear disaster. It doesn't."

      Maybye it isn't just the nuclear issue.

      "capital free enterprise democratic system"

      Democracy granted by accountants …


  • nedlifromvermont

    Are we as a people so paralyzed and incapable of outrage that we will just take it?

    Nuclear power should be consigned to the dustbin of history.

    It was a stupid, greedy, bad idea at the beginning.

    So we sold out to the Japanese … where does it say we gave away our backbone in the deal?

    Maybe we never had one in the first place.

    America the radioactive …

    peace …

    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      I'm outraged and have been from the start of 311, or at least starting in April 2011 when it became clear to me what was going down with regard to the way TPTB CHOSE to follow "orders" from the nuke-pukes who are the puppet-masters!! I've also been "paralyzed" by financial disaster and my worst 311-related nightmares come-true in the form of the sudden onset of an advanced,aggressive rare cancer and neurological thyroid-related seizure disorder my wife suffers from that has kept me from doing much of anything aside from being her caregiver 24/7!! I have the horrific,sad feeling that Fukushima has "sealed our fate" that the accumulated nuclear contamination that began in the 1940's with the start of the Atomic Age & perhaps can't be stopped now even if the pipe dream of a GLOBAL, IMMEDIATE CESSATION of ALL nuke activities had already occurred "after" 311-"the straw that broke the camel's back"??!! To be honest I don't know if we should just "acknowledge"(not "accept")the fact that doom is inevitable now even if in "slow-motion" and perhaps we should just do whatever makes the remainder of our greatly-shortened lives "happy",or at least "smoother"(?)!~or let the "OUTRAGE,ANGER,HATRED and VENGEANCE" be the motivation for trying to survive longer & dictate what we do with our remaining time??!!~I guess I'm somewhere in the "middle" of those 2 options but leaning towards the latter(?)! Allowing those responsible to get away with it isn't among the…

      • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

        >>options though IMO!! 😐 ~**


          no one, Johnny Blade, will escape the consequences of their actions. Regardless what anyone of us thinks of our personal motives, the universe remains indifferent to self-righteous dogma and eventually returns all to a perfect balance. You're only coming to terms with all of this, before others do. Be at peace and remain strong for your loved ones…

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Citizens are never informed of high radiation levels. It's kept secret, always.

  • Mr. Gundersen's story reminded me of one of my own.

    I wonder, maybe these kids were in that class Arnie?

    In all of our lives there comes a time when a moment occurs that can be a turning point in our life.

    I had a turning point on the 4th of July 1998. I was at a company barbeque. I took my dog with me that day.

    While having a beer and munching on food one person commented what a ‘huge’ dog I had. (I got that a lot)

    I replied, “That’s not a dog, it’s a rat that I found next to Three Mile Island”. Everyone chuckled, except for one of my coworkers who started crying.

    I saw her turn and walk away sobbing. I went to her and asked what was wrong. She said she grew up next to Three Mile Island and that both of her brothers had recently passed away from leukemia.
    (They were approximately 10 years old at the time of the TMI 1979. They did not live to see age 30.)

    I felt pretty bad about the joke, I explained that I did not intend to cause anyone pain. She said she understood that.

    So that day was one of many turning points for me. Now when I hear some arrogant expert claim that nobody died as a result of Three Mile Island it makes me sad and very angry at the same time.

    I remember the look on her face and the pain in her heart. It’s not always about the number crunching, sometimes it’s about people and doing what is right.

    (excerpt of my comment at EnviroReporter July 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm)

  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    My Father worked in Middletown during TMI. You could see the massive cooling towers from his office window. He died of a rare small cell carcinoma in Hershey Hospital which dumbfounded the docs and I wonder if it was from the fallout as he refused to stay home and went to work every day during the accident and was directly in the plume. I also suffer from MS but was not in Middletown and stayed in Carlisle and Harrisburg so I don't think my condition is a direct result from the plume but who knows as I have read many cases of MS have been connected to Chernobyl fallout in the contaminated region. ChasAha, you should not feel bad for making a joke as laughter is a tremendous gift during these difficult times. JMHO

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Jeffrey Patterson MD on Nuclear Power and Human Health; via A Green Road

    Dr. Ernest Sternglass PhD; Childhood Cancers/Deaths Caused By Nuclear Power Plants; via A Green Road

  • nedlifromvermont

    Arnie's colleague and fellow industry whistle-blower had this to say about TMI at an NRC hearing in Brattleboro before 3/11 :

    "We finally got hold of some radiation monitoring data that proved the containment at TMI was breached (something the NRC never publicly admitted) and we showed the data to an official at the NRC, who smiled and said, 'Guess you're right. We missed it.' "

    That's the nuke (puke) industry way. Simply deny it. Dissemble. Maintain plausible deniability. There is no immediate danger to the public. There never is. There never will be, in these people's minds. The public deserves to die, (so we can take the rest of their puny fortunes from them?)

    This is apparently what passes for an acceptable and plausible business plan in Atomic America. Kill indiscriminately. Take no responsibility for causing people pain and suffering. It's all fair in the interest of furthering atomic power.

    What ghouls these nuke puke-heads inevitably are. I'm glad the 'newsers are here, to remind me there is some good left in the species.

    peace …

  • nedlifromvermont

    That would be Arnie's colleague and fellowindustry whistle-blower, Paul Blanche, who was fired then re-hired by Millstone NPP …

  • RichWHOO RichWHOO

    It really is too bad that people in this country did not rise up and dismantle the entire power structure in this country, before 9/11 and the subsequent buildup of DHS and TSA. That may have been our very last chance to rid this planet of the evil SOB's who are causing such harm. However, the American citizen was too busy enjoying the "fallout" of the home mortgage scandal, what with all the toys and vacations that were being purchased. And, it simply is not a "coincidence" that all this mortgage money was available to distract people as the US gestapo was being set up.
    Now, with thousands of heavily armored MWRAP vehicles and billions of bullets, many of which are hollow points, and with all the DHS, TSA, and citizen soldiers, militarized police departments, local and state peace officers training with DHS, ……..we have likely reached a place where we are SCREWED.
    We allowed that window of opportunity to pass us by, as we played with all our new toys from our greatly expanded home values.
    So……now what?
    An interesting man, Benjamin Fulford, has reported some extremely disconcerting information regarding 3/11 and what was really the cause of the "earthquake", tsunami, and nuclear plant meltdown. I suggest you google him and look at his reports. Do not underestimate the veracity of what he reports. You have NO IDEA what the REAL evil undertow is in the world.