Published: January 1st, 2013 at 7:43 pm ET
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Title: The New Normal Is No Normal
Source: Radio Ecoshock Show via NEIS Conference in Chicago on December 12, 2012
Date: Jan 2, 2013
Nuclear Expert Arnie Gundersen, Fairewinds Energy Education: I was in Tokyo in February. I was on the book tour and I brought plastic with me and every day I would walk outside and grab some dirt form where I was.
And I came back with the dirt, brought them through customs officials — you have to declare dirt when you bring it back — and then sent it to a lab.
And all 5 bags would qualify radioactive waste here in the country, and this was on the streets of Tokyo.
So, what we would have to ship to Texas and store by our standards in Tokyo was ubiquitous.
I was there again in August and I was overt in Niigata, which is on the opposite coast on the Sea of Japan. And it didn’t get nailed by the plume so much, but the mountains between Fukushima Prefecture and Niigata are contaminated. And now their sediment in their rivers is loaded with radiation as well.
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Published: January 1st, 2013 at 7:43 pm ET
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I would very much like to know the public health impact on the Jaanese public, both at this point in time, and going forward.
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Mr. Gundersen I know you must know how to handle this stuff, and how much exposure you can have, just please be careful.
Thank you for the information you give us.
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charlie3 asks: "would very much like to know the public health impact on the Japanese public, both at this point in time, and going forward"
SP: My estimate is that tens of thousands of premature deaths in Japan have already occurred in the 663 days since the second largest nuclear plant in the world exploded. I could make better estimates if Japan released updated death reports for the past two years. Many deaths of infants have been unrecorded by hospitals. Other deaths have been unrecorded.
Cropland, water supplies, fish, fowl, and animals are heavily contaminated and getting fresh daily deposits of radiation from Fukushima Daiichi.
Any reliance on air monitoring reports is worthless at this point…death will come from internal radiation from dust, the food, and the water. Invisible death lurks in every corner.
Long term I project in the next 20 years Japan will suffer at a minimum 20 million premature deaths. That represents 15% of the current population.
Look around Japanese citizens…one in seven of every person you know will die prematurely before 2031.
Most of the remaining 85% of the survivors will not be in good health. There will be very few healthy people in mainland Japan in five years. The economy will collapse under the weight of enormous health care costs. Many countries will eventually boycott Japanese food products as a precaution. Other products will also be looked upon as potential carriers of radiation.
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Sickypu, i think this is one of the times when you are overly optimistic. I hope we're wrong tho because Japan has contributed to such great advancements in technology across the spectrum. I own several Japanese made tools, guitars, motorcycles, and cars and they are superior in many ways to the competition. I hope the current situation doesn't continue to degrade because if it does, the entire northern hemisphere won't be much better off.
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Well stated SP.
You're probably close on the numbers, estimates and reasons.
I would also consider a couple of other factors.
The 'suffering factor' of those who may not be a death statistic.
How does one calculate that?
The 'long term' GENETIC consequences and REPERCUSSIONS!
That's the big unknown, except that it will occur!
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The Petkau Effect And Low Dose Radiation Harm Caused To Humans, Plants, Animals; via A Green Road
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-petkau-effect-and-low-dose.html
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Yes, the point you make about many of these deaths being under reported is significant. I believe on this site in the past there were several articles stating that the hospitals are covering up babies that are born with severe deformities if my memory serves me correctly.
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"Japan’s population last year declined by 212,000, the biggest drop on record, according to an estimate by the nation’s health ministry."
"The number of births fell by 18,000 to a record low of 1.03 million last year, the ministry said."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/japan-s-population-falls-by-record-in-2012-as-births-decrease.html
Full report for anyone that can translate Japanese:
http://www.mhlw.go.jp/toukei/saikin/hw/jinkou/suikei12/dl/honbun.pdf
Not that any of it is anywhere near the truth . . .
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I guess it was Gundersen that was pointing out that Japan was running out of nuke workers and by reestablishing its nuclear industry by restarting its NNPs a lack of qualified workers would occur as Daiichi's on going cleanup over exposes workers to radiation thus limiting their usefulness even when high exposure rates are granted.
With the over abundance of radiation, workers hit exposure limits in short, otherwise known as 'burnt-out' or a diminishing labor pool.
Any volunteers?
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They won't build any new nuke plants. It takes years to complete, after years of planning.
They don't have that long.
They are all blowing smoke to keep their stock markets alive.
We have a tendency to fret over daily announcements. Give it a year – it'll all be pretty much over.
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Mutagenesis; Dangers Of Low Dose Ionizing Radiation; via A Green Road
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/12/mutagenesis-dangers-of-low-dose.html
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We will never get any true death rate or abortion statistics from Tokyo or Japan as a whole because the government is considered unreliable by demographers. Liars to put it bluntly.
Abortion figures are particularly skewed despite being legal since 1948. Oral contraceptives have been stigmatized for decades in Japan and abortions for economic reasons have been pickjng up the slack. The Japanese government was releasing figures of 1 million abortions per year in the early 1950s when it was almost certainly 2 to 3 times that rate.
Before Fukushima Daiichi blew up the main reason for under reporting was doctors hiding abortion income because insurance does not pay for any abortions in Japan.
Now you will have doctors under reporting and the government under reporting the abortion rate to make it seem radiation is not making women sick. So probably when they do release any abortion figures for 2011-2012 you can multiply it by a factor of 5 or more.
Tiana Norgren is a researcher who has an excellent book on Japanese abortions. Here is an excerpt:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FCxASdPdIqUC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=abortion+rates+japan+norgren&source=bl&ots=JTKysy8Z9s&sig=DZnXSXSi0HNymLBCnHuYPLQkzV4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uM7jUKqeFqbA2gXPvoC4CA&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAw
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The medical profession will also NEVER give information about the true harm caused to people in Japan from radiation..
When all of life is a lie, is it still worth living?
What is the suicide rate over there?
That is probably also miminized… wouldn't want to upset people and cause a panic…
No immediate harm to health and all that…
Keep smiling!
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And the poor sheep scream out "WHY" our destruction.
Next thing you know you will be ask to give up your guns so that you cannot defend yourself, and family.
The proven historical pattern of tyrannical destruction of humanity, by those of evil intent.
WAKE UP
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The Lord of Death has but a short time before Jesus says "ENOUGH!"
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whatever
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I have to disagree, Zombie_Planet
Re: giving up guns: "…The proven historical pattern of tyrannical destruction of humanity, by those of evil intent…"
That happens somewhere in the middle. The second step is to create a fake enemy and then toss in a few fake attacks. The first step is always monitoring and control of communications.
Censorship, secrets and lies are always the best foundation for psychopaths, no matter what 'ends' they dream of. They only want to infect the host, not kill it.
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yes! You are right. "The second step is to create a fake enemy and then toss in a few fake attacks. The first step is always monitoring and control of communications." +1000
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brilliant PavewayIII…
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Russian News Outlet Pravda Prints Surprising Opinion Column Warning USA: ‘Never Give Up Your Guns’
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/
The Second Amendment is the ONLY thing that keeps our Constitution binding in this country.
It certainly isn't 'freely elected' 'honest politicians'.
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TIS, From your actual linked article:
"These days, there are few few (sic) things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bare (sic) arms and use deadly force to defend one's self and possessions."
"… at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar."
"…as the Tsarist state collapsed under the weight of WW1 and Wall Street monies…"
"If it had not been for Washington's clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently."
"… criminals are still armed and still murdering and to (sic) often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police…"
The next item on the same page says, in part:
"Let's talk human rights.
America does just that, talk, but in truth, it is one of the biggest offenders to have ever existed. From the hellish chaos of the prisons and the abuse of prisoner plantations, to the tear gas and baton response to any large (sic) any power and money protests (sic)."
Plenty more, but room for only a bit:
"Without a word from Washington, which in truth loves tyrants and megalomaniacs, as long as they are happy selling out their people's interests for those of Washington…."
With friends like that….
More in a moment.
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TIS, that "Pravda" piece of course raised a ton of questions in my mind, so I did a bit of digging.
There are two Pravdas now, the old Russian state propaganda organ and a new tabloid. A blogger, Stanislav Mishin, writes often for the tabloid, and is the source of the gun article.
A detailed exploration of Mishin's role is here:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/newburyport/news/opinions/x702339326/Truth-in-Pravda-blog-is-lost-in-translation
Keep your wits about you as you explore these various paths. There's a lot of shenanigans going on.
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Deeper and deeper, spin and counter spin. Nothing is as it seems – or is it?
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013214.html
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