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My comment earlier today.
[Forum: Webcam]
ChasAha
October 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm ·
Looks like a large amount of steamy stuff rising from the right corner of the 'crumbling' Unit #4.
Monday 2012-10-22 8:47 jst
http://enenews.com/forum-fukushima-webcam-discussion-thread-june-30-2012-present/comment-page-20#comment-297180
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Here's what I observed.
It's definitely 'puffing'.
The crane behind Unit #4 is obscured from view by the somewhat translucent gases.
Best viewed on Full Screen.
Prepare to click 'Pause/Play'.
(Fuku1live at 20x)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpsxLHMNbuk#t=2m10s
or
(Fuku1long at only 2x)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OrhSg4qkg#t=22m30s
Is it spewing ever more radioactive contaminated gaseous emissions?
I think so!
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…everyone ready? You kids in the back…got your belts on?
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Dear Aftershock,
And eyes wide open! Folks, please keep reading and sharing ENENews!
Aloha.
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Yes. Until the end. It seems like we have been living with "the end" of the collapsing Unit #4 forever and ever. So long, that I am actually beginning to feel imortal. No! Never!
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Oh they are working like mad on the Unit 4 walls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8JEg27_Nbk&feature=BFa&list=UUDu1KkkwuzybKx6MXQgGHuw
Check out 2:13 into the timelapse hour.
They must be doing concrete repair work and steel reinforcement all down that side by the lift they use.
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I bet they are. If Unit 4 SFP topples, the entire site will have to be evacuated permanently, the other reactors cooling systems will begin to fail, no one will be able to fix anything or make any kind of repairs, the entire site will be lost. Radiation in the ground in the form of corium is bad, horrible, disastrous, but, radiation in the amounts of SFP 4 in the open air on the tarmac, unretrievable and uncoverable is unthinkable.
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@Sickputer is anyone ready to talk about the rain storm coming on the 27th? Accuweather has it as going from the 27th to the 5th(with a short break on the 2nd before it starts again). 10 days of Fukushima rains? It bodes no bueno for power outage potential.
Is there any kind of structure, any kind at all, that can reinforce what they are currently installing against significant flooding?
Engineers, builders, someone, ideas, thoughts?
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Dikes above (uphill) and around the plants. You could seal the ground, but if water gets under the plants from further uphill then where would it go? What kind of material is the plant sitting on? Soft sand? That could wash out underneath and come out somewhere farther toward the ocean. Pump liquid nitrogen into the ground? How deep? You'd have to keep pumping it in until everything is cleaned up. And frozen ground at that temperature would be very hard to work on or around. Hmm. Don't know of any solution that doesn't have some worse problem associated with it. Thinking on it. Good luck.
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Rain usually brings on Blobzilla episodes. And the jetstream is whooping it up starting now in California and a big loop across northern USA:
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Wind/JetStream.aspx
http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif
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What the heck is a blobzilla episode! lol.
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I think its like if the Blob http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlobMonster and Godzilla http://www.google.com/imgres?q=godzilla&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1T4SKPB_enUS321US321&biw=1280&bih=600&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=vYRxVmazcDDbUM:&imgrefurl=http://terrordaves.com/2010/08/01/cloverfield-vs-godzilla/&docid=omtuc8ZSG_YQvM&imgurl=http://terrordaves.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/gojira.jpg&w=600&h=450&ei=I_2EULbMJ6LC2QWY9IHgAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=969&vpy=225&dur=1086&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=124&ty=111&sig=106146003979142385030&page=1&tbnh=112&tbnw=150&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0,i:192 Had a baby. After becoming an adult "Blobzilla", this creature ate an entire Nally Chili factory and then washed it down with 3 or 4 nuclear reactors. The result being a "Blobzilla Episode".
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Unit 4 is top heavy because its fuel pool was never designed to hold the extra 100 tons of weight that was unloaded from the reactor core to empty it while doing a shroud replacement.
The building is going to wobble back and forth until it decides what direction it wants to sink towards. And since the bottom of the fuel pool has extra supports tied into the side of the reactor containment shell wall, that TEPCPO added after the building blew up, it will be hard to stabilize the building's foundation.
TEPCO is throwing itself under the Nuclear Is Necessary bus by admitting they knew all about the short comings at the site and reactor's design but never bothered to fix the flaws (didn't want to alarm anyone to the dangers involved). These confessions will try to relieve the pressure from the rest of the nuclear industry, worldwide.
Nuclear industries elsewhere can claim they don't have to worry about such large earthquakes or waves and are perfectly fit to continue operating. Japan can say they will add floatation rings around the plant buildings, in case the island sinks away, and can be safely ocean cooled while drifting around…That is just as dumb as restarting their nuclear plants now.
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The news gets ever worse. It is amazing that this story is continually given a pass by msm. Even here there are only 12 responses. Information should be disseminated, but for a rational response that families can make.
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"Nuclear industries elsewhere can claim they don't have to worry about such large earthquakes or waves and are perfectly fit to continue operating."
-Well there is that little issue that the NRC covered up about knowing that dam breaks upstream of nuke facilities in the USA will cause tsunami like problems. They can't deny that issue too easily now, although no main stream media source seems to be free enough to report on the problem in depth. 60 minutes? Frontline? CNN? Anybody? Hello, Hello?
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The only reason you know about dams being a danger to downstream nuke plants is because of a whistleblower revealing official NRC internal documents.
Japan is no worse than the US when it comes to nuclear power promotion.
Three meltdowns together on one site, what more do you need to know about nuclear power generation?
Here is US policy on whistleblowers…
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/09/obamas_unprecedented_war_on_whistleblowers/
http://rt.com/usa/news/whistle-kiriakou-torture-case-818/
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Tilting was acknowledged by TEPCO in June 2012.
http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Japanese-reactor-building-has-slight-tilt-3665412.php
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http://ex-skf.blogspot.de/2012/10/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-reactor-4-is.html
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http://www.fanstory.com/displaystory.jsp?id=596991
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