Gundersen: I’m now not eating Pacific Ocean fish — Bio-accumulation of Fukushima nuclear waste concerning — Effects of lower-level radiation worse than predicted (VIDEO)

Published: January 9th, 2014 at 8:21 pm ET
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Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen of Fairewinds Energy Education, Jan. 9, 2014:

At 0:30 in — We’ve spoken to other scientists we respect; radiation chemists, environmental engineers and ocean biologists,  and we all agree that while the contamination of the Pacific Ocean is serious, it’s not as dire as some bloggers are urging you to believe. […] According to the National Academy of Sciences BEIR VII report, and contrary to what the nuclear industry would like you to believe, all radiation is harmful. The math is quite simple — the more radiation you receive, the bigger the risk, the less radiation you receive, the smaller the risk. […] However, many scientists also believe that radiation effects are actually worse at low levels than the BEIR 7 report predicts — and we at Fairewinds support that analysis. In Dec. 2012 radiological biologist Ian Fairlie wrote an excellent article detailing the discrepancies […]

At 5:00 in — [The Pacific is] being contaminated by water leaking from Fukushima Daiichi. Is the ocean safe? If I lived on the Pacific coast, I would feel free to swim in the Pacific Ocean, and run along the beach on a foggy morning. The amount of man-made radiation is currently quite low. But I do remain concerned about eating fish caught in the Pacific Ocean because the government is not releasing data about bio-accumulation of radioactivity in the Pacific Ocean fish. Until there’s a fully transparent radiation database on fish, eating them is a risk I personally have chosen to avoid.

Some doctors and scientists are somewhat more concerned about radiation exposure while at the beach, especially for young children:

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Published: January 9th, 2014 at 8:21 pm ET
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152 comments to Gundersen: I’m now not eating Pacific Ocean fish — Bio-accumulation of Fukushima nuclear waste concerning — Effects of lower-level radiation worse than predicted (VIDEO)

  • KidIcarus KidIcarus

    As public awareness hits critical mass, I want to remind all of my fellow ENENewsers that the amount of shills AND trolls will be on the increase. If you want to follow my lead and pledge to ignore any and all identified shills and trolls, please comment below to show your commitment.

    I'll start. I will not allow a shill/troll to distract my attention even for one post. I will not respond, reply, engage, or acknowledge their existence here at ENEnews. I will remain commited to discussing and disseminating the terrible truth with my brothers and sisters in arms.

    • I will do my best to follow your lead…

      Has anybody noticed the wave of Radioactive high's which moved into the West Coast today on http://netc.com/ and has moved into central USA reducing as it moves across the country ??

      I presume a few days ago, Fukushima experienced increased readings between meltdowns and them working on removing spent fuel from the damaged pools. Now that output out in the Pacific is over the USA, pushed along with the Jetstreams.

      • retali8 retali8

        mr socref, also states nobody has died from Fuku,
        Like OMG., no one has died? you wanna bet? deaths globally have gone up since Fuku,, in places most affected figures are through the roof,,, you wouldn't dare be in Japan would you? the reports coming out of Japan are terrible, even some famous people dropping dead,, suddenly, the heart stopped, its constant daily bombardment.. weakening your immune system leaving you unable to fight, if your already weak, sick or frail, radiation doses are enough to finish you off, try living in Tokyo recently? how many ambulances have rushed left right and centre? non stop sirens… Before Fuku this wasn't the case so Yes, its true people are dropping dead everywhere as a result of Fuku radiation.. i have first hand proof coming out of Japan and have spoken to many JAPANESE, but alot of them are still in the dark and believe the governments and nuke industry, shame on you.

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        @ webasylum…There was a steam event recorded on the Fuku cameras.
        nuckelchen posted these pics:
        smoke & steam on
        2014/01/08 14-15 JST :
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_48pgMt2BA
        http://i.imgur.com/EpTbO0t.jpg
        http://i.imgur.com/NUXO0C5.jpg
        http://i.imgur.com/0n3cQkk.gif
        Don't know if they are related

    • harengus_acidophilus

      May I have an useful suggrstion

      In some boards, you have a "personal ignore list" in a way, you don't see the posters you don't "like". Everone have his own idea of what is a shill / troll / disturbing force or whatever. With such a list, it's on everyones OWN hand what (s)he will see. You can be your own censor.

      I know, sometimes I'm argue to harsh against (nearby) lies or this kind of "half truth", some "professionals" exsudate. Yes, I'm on this site to get informations, but … not only. I think (hope) some of you are (like me) on this site also for … yes, emotional reasons. We all are humans with reasons AND with feelings.

      h.

    • scottyji scottyji

      Goodbye tuna melts! *Fortunately I thrive on gluten.*

    • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

      I hereby take the pledge (it's honestly not that hard to ignore them LOL):

      I will not allow a shill/troll to distract my attention even for one post. I will not respond, reply, engage, or acknowledge their existence here at ENEnews. I will remain commited to discussing and disseminating the terrible truth with my brothers and sisters in arms.

      Unless if it's by accident, of course. I'm not that intelligent to spot them straight away like some of the vets.

    • This Just In!

      Yoichi Shimatsu Fukushima Report 06JAN14

      Fukushima Radiation Pacific Die Off

      USMIL Strategic Defense System of Two Electromagnetic Walls.
      One in the Pacific , one in the Atlantic.

      2020 Olympics Suicide Operation.

      Do our own Rad readings.
      Speak out now before laws destroy constitutional opportunities.

      Transcript http://wyynd.tripod.com/ys2.txt [fast read]

      Vid http://www.youtube.com/watchv=WbQ3Df2-xXY&feature=youtube_gdata_player 47m

      Pass This On!

    • tsfw tsfw

      I will put him on full ignore, but I think those in here with the expertise should still respond when they feel the need. Otherwise, newcomers who are sitting on the fence, might believe him if nothing he says is ever refuted with other evidence. So I agree and disagree, but since I have nothing to offer that moron but insults, I shall join the pledge.

    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      Ignoring the shills… Yes!
      …. even noticed more wanting to argue with me on Facebook.

  • w

    Good luck kid, more power to you…

  • name999 name999

    …this whole troll shill thing has been around for a long time wearing a variety of names. I have been unclear about what makes the most sense in keeping with our goals of getting truthful reports and sharing and supporting what we know to help each other.

    I don't know that we will all agree on who the shills and trolls are at times, other times it is quite obvious. That makes your pledge offer a bit tricky.

    I guess I would say that if what someone says on here allows us to share what we want to be sharing then whatever. Sometimes the comments do enlighten. We each need to make our own decision on that perhaps. But If the information gets hijacked, I agree, ignore.

    I also would be supportive of blocking some comments to keep the thread on a useful course. It is meant to inform, get to the clear facts that are being denied and obfuscated other places, so that needs to stay numero uno.

    But what I really want to say is that Arnie Gundersen is a brave man and I thank him for speaking out as much as he does.

    • How about being totally upfront about the IP address of everybody who posts in here. I have nothing to hide. My IP is 184.4.47.174 (dynamic which means sometimes it changes a little due to service provider) WordPress is the CMS of this site. Its easy to display IP addresses of each post with the actual post.
      Most Shills will quickly be identified by also showing IP address – Lets be brave and start changing the world)
      I would love to see IP addresses along with posts. It would totally remove the BS in here and make it REAL.

      • Sam Sam

        Go to the financial site ZeroHedge and read this article;
        500 Years of History Shows that Mass Spying Is Always Aimed at Crushing Dissent
        Posted by : George Washington
        Post date: 01/09/2014 – 11:57
        It’s NEVER to Protect Us From Bad Guys

        We all need a layer of protection today. If anyone wants to get my info from this site,
        then let them produce a warrant for the information. Japan just passed secrecy laws
        banning the dissemination of information on Fukushima. Openness is great when there
        is no fear involved. The NukePro industry plays hardball when necessary.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        The same person can use multiple computers.

      • dosdos dosdos

        Have you ever heard of proxies? IP's are useless for ID.

      • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

        I'm all for being brave and changing the world, so, in essence, I like your idea. However, since there is sometimes a discrepancy between what is a shill and what is not (same for potential trolls), I don't think it wise to display user's private info on a public site. Furthermore, I doubt that it will be practical or even useful, as resistance and criticism to shills and trolls should be nurtured from within a user by themselves. The user should also learn to disengage said shill/troll of their own volition. Otherwise, what would be the point of displaying everyone's IPs if a headstrong, especially principlistic user wants to keep arguing with some obvious troll asshat?

      • cooterboy

        I suspect that there are individuals, you visit this site and comment, that have worked for governmental agencies and signed nondisclosure documents along with oaths of secrecy. Also there are personal reputations and credentials that demand protection. Worse than any shill idiot is the NSA. I can ignore a shill but I cannot ignore those who may have ill intentions.

        This action would destroy any reasonable and intelligent person from even visiting this site, let alone make a meaningful contribution. Privacy is a cherished right.
        Peace,

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Agreed, there have been individuals here lately whose purpose seems to be to distract participants from sharing meaningful conversation about the topics and stories being presented.

      When someone posts about 100+ comments just at one story, that's a big clue their intent is to divide and distract.

  • mindrive mindrive

    anyone else wondering if arnie is 100% against nukes and really telling us what he knows? like is is holding alot back? then sticks his foot in his mouth…ie the video he did about the FOIA releases and now wont eat fish yet says the beaches are safe??? even after, now multiple videos of high CPM on Geiger…

    • sunpower

      Aloha Mindrive. My friend just asked the same question. Why does Arnie talk about all of us getting together to stop hazardous pollution, when it is known there is no clean configuration for nuclear power from the time the cledge leaves the ground in mines? How can you create a lot of DU and hydrogen bombs without stuffing the planet? How exactly do we all join hands to bury the waste when Tepco can't even grout three reactors and stop polluting the ocean? There is no solution to nuke waste and there is no clean way to fix nuclear industry nor will there ever be. So why doesn't Arnie proclaim himself anti nuke? I'm sure many here wonder.
      Arnie comes across as scientifically savvy by discussing the superlinearity of the dose response curve, which most anti nuke kids have known about for years. He throws out this truth but then blesses running on hot beaches because he claims it is only natural background.
      There is a huge gaping flaw in Arnie's 'logic' however. If the ocean's natural background is the reason for the hot Cali beaches, then all beaches worldwide washed by the oceans would be similarly hot. Are they?
      A good friend with capable device tested the beaches in Hawaii after he saw the San Mateo data. Sorry, Arnie but you are so busted. There is no such thing as natural sea contamination going on in Hawaii and your theory old boy does NOT explain that discrepancy between Cali and HI.
      Anyone is welcome to duplicate this simple…

  • mindrive mindrive

    don't get me wrong he has spoken out way more on this than most, but it is so obvious that the waters and the beaches are becoming more and more radiated so much so that people are going to stop eating fish yet we are told to run on the beach, swim,,that would include kids and kids play in the sand and use a plastic shovel to play in the sand then some will cvhew on the shovel/…the beaches are no longer safe for being on..

    • 250mSv is beyond the limit, especially for kids.

    • sunpower

      Don't get me wrong either. I love Arnie to the extent he feels a responsibility to shed some light on things, and he does provide some scratch. That is always a start in the right direction even if he will not say like we do that the goal is shutting down this flawed and dangerous industry.
      I am really sorry anyone would downplay this anomaly at San Mateo as if it is natural as that tramples on the precautionary principle. No I do not advise rash judgment in anything, toward any conclusion incl. those I have reached, but sometimes when there is a preponderence of evidence, Occam's Razor might apply. I acknowledge the data Arnie introduced that refutes fission products on the beach, but what I would want to see is a little more indie analysis of that sand, if you please.
      Who with a gamma spectrometer can you trust? I find myself reading between the lines alot about what is not said by people posing as authorities on gamma spectroscopy. Basically for all the voodoo awe people pay to the nuklar technocrats, the damn GS device is about the size of a blender, hooked up to a computer.
      At my level as a layman and citizen, I merely rely on the logic that I do not see this supposed natural contamination of global beaches happening…no evidence of it in Hawaii.
      Show me the beef. The question is open to anyone to prove or disprove whether they have an Inspector or Gammascout or whatever. Please check it out and decide for yourselves.

  • mindrive mindrive

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnhnC6jXKmc

    Scheduled for Jan 9, 2014

    Tonight we settle that question permanently . Los Angeles-area Meltdown Cesium-137 still up to 1,000 times higher than standard — Plutonium also detected — Located between Chatsworth and Simi Valley , Gov't model shows West Coast of N. America to get highest level of Fukushima contamination until 2030s , Anaheim, CA has highest amount of radioactive fallout of any EPA air monitoring station in Continental U.S. for iodine-131 , Study Fukushima radiation plume contacted North America at California 'with greatest exposure in central and southern California' .
    Rad Chick Nuke Radio – Coverup Of Radiation Exposure Of US Servicemen Near Fukushima And Operation Tomodachi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcwl0N

    • name999 name999

      site is blocked…says no site to be seen…

    • scottyji scottyji

      …>Located between Chatsworth and Simi Valley…
      BTW = That's exactly where the RocketDyne reactor melted down.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        I was living 10 to 15 miles from this meltdown and almost died of cancer in 1989. My grandmother died of cancer 7 years after this meltdown. My little sister is still in So. Calif. and has just had surgery for her 3rd cancer. My father had horrible skin cancer when he died.

        It has been calculated that this meltdown was 260 times worse than TMI. There was neither a primary containment nor a secondary containment.

        I took my daughter there when she was 2 years old for 6 weeks and she has already had a rare inoperable cancer. No one ever told me about the meltdown and I only learned about it from reading posts on enenews.com

        All my doctors expected me to die. I had stage 4 cancer. I am only alive because I read a lot about diet and supplements and herbs and have an extremely, extremely restricted vegan diet and drink and cook only with spring water from inside a mountain from a million years old aquifer and avoid all sources of radiation ionizing and non-ionizing and all sources of electromagnetic pollution and all microwaves and other environmental pollutants. I sit 4 feet from my computer hard drive and monitor and it has no wi-fi or cameras. I turn down all x-rays and cat scans. I have no cell phone.

        My sister is also downwind from Son Onofre NPP.

        • Angela_R

          Anne, you do a fantastic service here; thank you. Your story indicates why you are so dedicated.

        • zogerke zogerke

          Anne that is amazing. I am sorry for all the cancer and health troubles but the way you protect yourself from radiation is extraordinary.
          While my diet is restricted and i drink filtered water and eat organic as much as i can afford, i am surrounded by radioadmitting doodads, pcs and tablets and radios and wireless this and that. We keep it all out of the room where the beds are….but we are surrounded by in it nonetheless…specially living and working in a city…..

          • lavender lavender

            me too.. I keep wireless off but where I live now I see at least 12 other peoples WiFi's on low reception in my home office. I hate to think about just all the low frequency radiation. comcast has been installing this "double" wifi modem in WA state where they don't tell you (except my install guy did) that eventually they plan to turn on the second wifi and have it broadcast to other comcast users in the area who are on their phones/tablets) I have my wifi turned off but I have no idea if they've turned the other wifi on or not. They will eventually once its approved by the government.
            I haven't used a microwave in perhaps a decade, just because I learned back then it's not wise, and I keep my cell phone turned off 99.999% of the time, and I don't have any gadgets in my bedroom, so I do try, but perhaps a lot of it depends on location.
            I also eat mostly organic and drink water out of a Berkey filter, It's not just about me though, most people don't do these small things that I have done for years. I also worry about my cats.
            bottom line I sit in front of a computer all day and I read from a kindle (but on airplane mode)

            • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

              "I don't have any gadgets in my bedroom, "

              I don't think anyone has ever shown THAT correlation before. Also, TMI. 😉

              • name999 name999

                gadgets in the bedroom interrupt sleeping and relaxation and should be
                left somewhere else…

                • 4Yahshua

                  1~12~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"

                  And, do you know that the gov is spying on us? This year there has been a loud enough click about 5 min. after we turn off the TV in our bedroom, about enough time to hear our prayers!And, now the same sounding click happens when we turn on our TV downstairs! BIG BROTHER!

        • American Phoenix57

          Anne your Christmas gift is sitting under my slightly wilted tree. Please give me a shout on the back channel so I know where to sent it. Same for Johnny B.

        • lam335 lam335

          Re: Anne's computer: "… it has no wi-fi or cameras …"

          Why do you include cameras in the list of things to avoid? Do cameras emit EMF radiation (or any other kind)?

        • Anne, your post is included… is that ok?

          Santa Susana Sodium Reactor In Los Angeles California Nuclear Plant Meltdown; Completely Covered Up; 260 Times Worse Than Three Mile Island; via @AGreenRoad
          http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/los-angeles-nuclear-plant-meltdown.html

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Anaheim is 69 miles from Simi Valley and is not downwind from Simi Valley.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        This horrible meltdown is a thorium sodium cooled failed experiment.

        Another very good reason thorium was abandoned as nuclear fuel for a nuclear power plant.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Here is another failed thorium nuclear power plant:

        Fort St. Vrain Generating Station
        “…Fort Saint Vrain Generating Station was built as Colorado's first and only nuclear power plant and operated as such from 1979 until 1989.[1] It was one of two high temperature gas cooled (HTGR) power reactors in the United States. The primary coolant was helium which transferred heat to a water based secondary coolant system to drive steam generators. The reactor fuel was a combination of fissile uranium and fertile thorium microspheres dispersed within a prismatic graphite matrix…”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._Vrain_Generating_Station

        • scottyji scottyji

          "Pace recalled that part of his job was to check which way the wind was blowing at the SSFL weather station. “A few hours after it happened, I found out that the reactor had run away from them and they had to release the gases. After leaking the gases, they discovered that the winds were headed toward the San Fernando Valley. All of our families lived [there] and all that radiation went over their homes.”

          A 2006 report by David A. Lochbaum, the nuclear safety engineer with the Union of Concerned Scientists, determined that up to 30 percent of the reactor’s radioiodine and cesium could have vaporized during the accident."

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      There goes Disney Land.. 🙁 So sad!

      Bam! Disney Land destroyed by the Nuke Industry and their commercial insurance policy covers nothing Nuclear for any of the damage or loss created by such events.

      In fact no one's insurance policy in the USA covers Nuclear anything..we are all screwed! 🙁

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    NUCLEAR POWER . . .

    The more radiation you're exposed to, the sooner you get sick and die.

  • mindrive mindrive

    http://theresistanceunited.com/2014/01/09/thousands-flock-to-clean-up-radioactive-beaches/

    wtf?????? little kids cleaning up the mess???

    California has mobilized hundreds of thousands of citizens to clean up debris along the beaches, including debris from the 2011 Japanese Tsunami. This catastrophic event resulted in radioactive debris being sent into the Pacific ocean from the severely damaged Fukushima Diiachi Nuclear Power Plant. Volunteer debris collectors clean up any debris they find and gather critical information about the Japanese tsunami debris using a comprehensive data card. It is as if each volunteer is a guinea-pig in a massive experiment.

    • A war is needed, including civilian enlistments, but keep the kids out of it.

    • KiloCharley KiloCharley

      This is appalling! No children should be there at all. Uniformed parents that mean well I'm sure, putting their children at great risk. This is precisely why information should not be withheld. The public has a right to know the truth. Nice gesture, cleaning up the beach and all, but this is akin to watching a child walk in front of an oncoming train and doing nothing. I am sickened by this report! Seriously, sick! Thanks mindrive for sharing, I need to punch a wall or politician or something…

      • TooExpensiveToMatter

        Kids shouldn't be cleaning up trash no matter what kind it is (unless it happens to be in their own yard and they made the mess, of course)

        This is just child abuse, plain and simple.

        I thought there were laws in the US against child labor.

        Can't you go to jail for engaging in that?

        Who (at what government agency) is responsible for this program?

        I would think if enough people wrote to their Congressman/woman and made a big stink, someone would take note.

      • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

        No worries; "The tsunami washed the debris out to sea well before the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant went into meltdown, so radiation should not be an issue. "

        See? Same site, different page (Coastal commission). It's all good.

        But seriously – even ignoring that kids are most vulnerable to radiation and it's pretty clear that if the debris is here so is the radiation…what if a child picks up medical waste?

        CPS should have teams waiting at the beaches, IMO, to educate people about what is and is not appropriate to have children do.

    • vicky13 vicky13

      They made them sign a waver too, unreal.

    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      Hey hey, it's ok. They signed a liability waiver. God people are brainwashed. No reason to take a chance.

    • name999 name999

      that is bad…completely unacceptable. In Oregon and Washington State, we had contact lines
      to report Tsunami debris and all have been disabled. These beach clean ups are state and govt
      sponsored. So wrong…poor kids…

  • Socrates

    Oh, good! At least I can keep my home.in Del Mar, California.

    Until they start testing the fish, I am not eating it. If Strontium-90 levels rise in milk, that is bad.

    • Angela_R

      Eating out, over Christmas? Well at a restaurant one can attempt to avoid potentially contaminated food.

      I sat silent on Monday as fish and shellfish were consumed; I ordered only an entree. Why did I not address the issue with my lunch companions? Come now, 🙂 even my daughter declares "I don't want to hear about Nuclear, I have enough problems!" That, when I asked how far she would be from a particular nuclear plant, as she tossed up between two University appointments. The one she was inclined towards, was some one hundred miles from a plant that was leaking radioactive waste.

      However, she accepted the other. One month later, an explosion occurred in the vicinity of her new appointment, within approximately the same radius as the other; reports defines it as non-radioactive and 'not of concern.' Neither are on the Coast!

      At a private dinner party, it is harder to contend with. Recently I avoided the rice, played with the chicken dish…said nothing. The following day, the hostess telephoned, to apologise for the 'dreadful meal.' Did I say anything? No. People cannot cope. I have for some time attempted to mention concerns. But on more than one occasion, I have been informed that there is enough to worry about without any additional information. They've heard, they've chosen to ignore, they close the topic with 'there is, after all nothing we can do.'

    • 4Yahshua

      1~12~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

      We gave up drinking bovine milk a few years back. We drink almond milk now. It's available in all of the stores here. Almonds contain a natural cyanide that kills cancer cells. Drink up!

  • I will be in Hawaii next week, but I will not be SCUBA diving. Pressure on the food chain is causing a 500% increase in serious and fatal shark attacks. Real data is here.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/12/apex-predators-in-hawaii-are-out-of.html

  • Ontological Ontological

    Sounds like AG, and many others could use a fast from all those Happy Meals.

  • sbgradinnb

    Who can recommend a safe and reputable site to purchase things such as:

    Pot Iodide
    Spirulina (atlantic ocean based)
    Chlorella
    Liposomal Vit C

    And any other natural protectants against Fuku radiation.

    • KI I used Amazon, looks great, if you live close to a nuke check with your state health, free is nice
      Havent tried 2 and 3

      For Vit c, I buy big jars at Costco, lots in the system is what you want, I have never been impressed with fancy vitamins, seems smoke and mirrors….

      what is the theory behind Liposomal? with C, Seems like huge overkil to me $1 a pill or $.02 a pill

      feedback appreciated.

      • Jebus Jebus

        It makes your body intake more of the vitamin c you eat, versus just vitamin c…

      • Sickputer

        Stock.. The liposomal C from Amazon is awesome although I am preparing to buy an ultrasonic and make my own cheaper. I wish I had been getting it in early 2012 when the Tokyo Trots nearly killed my family over a three month span. The fires from Fukushima were massive in December 2011 to late February 2012. If you knew someone in America who died suddenly in that time frame then it was a result of the worst nuclear fallout since the Chinese blast of 1966 and the March to June 2011 fallout from Fukushima Daiichi.

        Nuclear researchers will reveal that data someday. Dead men walking won't keep secrets.

        • wa6smn wa6smn

          My mom Nov 4, 2011. My brother-in-law Jan 12, 2012. My oldest son May 17, 2012. Too many funerals in close succession.

        • What do you like about it, is a controlled time release right? Can you take a boatload without getting upset stomach or something like that?

        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          Sorry…. Tokyo Trots?

          • Sickputer

            AKA Montezuma's Revenge, Fukushima's Revenge, Turkish Trots.

            Lower GI distress from foreign agents like food poisoning, bacteria and viruses. And radiation poisoning.

            You can die quite rapidly from the loss of fluids and electrolytes.

          • wa6smn wa6smn

            About 1200 rads delivered to the intestinal tract starts diarrhea. Fast dividing cells are most affected.

        • American Phoenix57

          Sickputer just in case you're using a toxic genetically modified soy formula, here is the one that I use. I switched awhile back and the difference (phosphatidyl choline content)is like night and day. Non-GMO, solvent-free, soy-free, gluten-free and certified vegan. Not available in stores.

          http://www.mysunflowerlecithin.com/100-organic-liquid-sunflower-lecithin/

          • Sam Sam

            I have all these ingredients though have not yet made liposomol Vit C.
            We know from radiation mitigation that Sunflowers soak up lot of cesium
            from the ground. Supposedly it cleanses the top layer somewhat. But what
            about the sunflower seeds. How much radiation have they soaked up?
            Where are the seeds sourced from? Better if from South America.

            • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

              No supplement of any kind is an adequate replacement for the naturally-occuring nutrient it is trying to be. Proper nutrition eliminates any need for supplements. There is no such thing as a "vitamin", just as there is no such thing as a "weed".

              Want "vitamin C"? Pine needles contain 300 times the "Vitamin C" as an orange. All pine needles are edible, but don't take my word for it…Look up James Sloane, Susan Weed, Frank Cook, David Hoffman, Mathew Wood, Arthur Haines,Jim McDonald, David Winston, Blanche Cyble Derby, "Green Dean" at EatTheWeeds, Martin Crawford, Bill Mollison, Geoff Lawton, Sepp Holzer, Simon Mills, and Markus Rothkranz to name a few.

              Most of these people are herbalists…and none of them are trying to sell you a product. Never spend another dime on your health…everything you ever needed has been in your land all along…you've just been mowing it and poisoning it instead of respecting it and protecting it.

              My comment is in relation to Sam and Sickputer (whom I hold in high regard), but is for everyone here. Exhaust the information provided by the herbalists I mentioned, and I bet you'll never purchase a product again.

              Also, get yourself a field guide to edible wild plants in your region.

              Owning a lawn mower–or any other gas or electric device of the sort–is a sure sign that there is still more progress to be made.

              Best to all.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        lipo C, you can make your own easily and cheaply. But beware that absorption is at best twice regular ascorbic acid and only at levels above 5 grams. Way less than IV C. Phospholipids may have their own benefit. Frequent dosing of regular C is adequate for large doses and is the secret either way, as half life is still short with lipo C. Its not absorbed intact but digested in the small intestine.

        • Sickputer

          Absorption of lipospheric (aka liposomal Vitamin C) may well be just twice the regular capsules of oral Vitamin C. I am one of the growing number of "anecdotal" supporters. Works for me very well. Twice as nice as oral.

          I am not completely surprised the world's preeminent vitamin C researchers into vitamin C have absolutely zero studies on liposomal Vitamin C:

          "Another formulation of vitamin C, liposomal-encapsulated vitamin C (e.g., Lypo-spheric™ vitamin C) is now commercially available. However, data regarding the bioavailability of liposomal-encapsulated vitamin C are not currently available."

          Linus Pauling Institute

          http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html

          SP: A 2008 study in the UK was positive for liposomal Vitamin C in fighting cancer but the final report was mysteriously deep-sixed. I think a cheap cancer drug is not on the fast track for the medical industry. Vitamin C does not create big pharma money.

          Howard Hughes used massive amounts of squeezed oranges to heal after one of his plane crashes.

          Now we hear the Japanese are using intravenous and Liposomal Vitamin C for the workers at Fukushima NPP. Coincidence?

          The Japanese are leaders in research and patents using liposomal products:

          http://www.iovs.org/content/52/10/7289.full.pdf

          Excerpt: "Edaravone-Loaded Liposome Eyedrops Protect against
          Light-Induced Retinal Damage in Mice

          Hiroki Shimazaki,Kohei Hironaka,Takuya Fujisawa, Kazuhiro Tsuruma

    • Sam Sam

      you can grow your own spiraling in fish tanks
      a learning curve is there with close monitoring of
      ph in water and watching temp. At least if your
      water is not contaminated be better than ocean
      water. Too many unknowns with ocean water.
      How clean is the Atlantic? Irish butter anybody
      with Irish Sea contaminated from Sellafield.
      google growing your own spiralina.

    • mindrive mindrive

      http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/

      this is my favorite site for herbs and the like..maybe they have somethings you might like…

    • lavender lavender

      iherb.com for the Liposomal Vit C
      spirulina – gaia herbs brand (also can purchase from iherb.com) gaia herbs gets it from india and tests it for all heavy metals (but not radiation)
      http://australianspirulina.com.au/ that is probably the purest spirulina out there (not proven) but shipping into the US is really expensive.
      iodine – if taking it for regular use, perhaps Iodoral, otherwise Iosat but Iosat is only for emergancies

  • Questionit

    Within just the past month Arnie Gundersen said in an interview that he knew of no study that showed there was Any contamination in the tuna and he said the salmon were all clean.

    I would suggest you not eat any sea food from the Pacific (or from the Gulf of Mexico). And I would suggest you be wary of Arnie. He told those on the West Coast NOT to take iodine tablets when the plume of contamination was passing over their heads.

  • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

    Arnie Gundersen is a good man.

    Words cannot express my gratitude that he is with us.
    ——-

    Remember, everyone: It's not just the fish, themselves…it's everything they are used in. That means those vitamins you've been giving your kids that contain concentrated fish oils as a means of supplying omega 3…

    And all of the industrial farmland that uses fish emulsions (and other fish products) as "fertilizer" on the fields…they are inadvertantly transporting radionuclides from the fish in the ocean directly into the soil that all of your plants and animals are taking into their bodies.

    Even the marijuana growers are using these fish-derived "fertilizers" because they think the crap they buy in plastic bags that says "organic" on it is how to grow plants…

  • razzz razzz

    I have said before I like pipingrock.com then amazon.com and maybe a few others that appear trustworthy.

    The body has a hard time with inorganic minerals (no carbon attached via photosynthesis) probably useless to toxic in larger doses. So vitamin manufactures try prepare their pills and capsules to help the body absorb them as in natural uptake. There are always exceptions but the body usually recycles everything someway or another by producing synthetics when rearranging amino acids. Proteins are to large to be assimilated through the intestinal walls and have to breaks down into amino acids to pass thru. Body converts sugars to other uses and so on. Eating proteins only has them breakdown into amino acids which the body reassembles into its own proteins that are needed (via the liver, bone, etc)…it is all quite fascinating.

    http://www.pipingrock.com/c-vitamins
    http://www.pipingrock.com/spirulina
    http://www.pipingrock.com/chlorella
    http://www.pipingrock.com/iodine

  • Jebus Jebus

    Remember your pets diet.

    Protest with every purchase.

  • sbgradinnb

    Thanks for the responses. It's just tough to know which brands to trust. I went to iherb.com and there are over 20 brands for Spirulina. How is one supposed to decide?

    • razzz razzz

      For the first time spend the least money and see if the pills agree with you or not and see if they is any difference in how you feel when the bottle is used up. Try amazon.com comment sections to see what people are reporting back about supplements.

  • dosdos dosdos

    I was listening to Firesign Theater's Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers. How apt.

    "And last year, Patty, you and the viewers will be interested in noting that the world ended."
    "As we know it, Hugh."
    "Ah, you're darn tooting, Patty."
    "I sure am."
    "Say, who was born today?"
    "Uh, nobody, Hugh."
    "I mean in history, Patty, before they changed the water."
    *Click*

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    Off topic I think. If a Rad counter picks up high counts of C1317/1, what else left Fukushima by air & sea? PU & uranium, all 6 plants were using MOX fuel, so if you detect high rads it could be or all of the deadly rads sent to us by GE & Tepco! OK.

  • humptydumpty humptydumpty

    I already stopped eating shrimp due to its probable sourcing in the Gulf of Mexico. There needs to be a law passed requiring labeling or available information of the source location.

    Maybe when extensive testing gets underway — and this will probably be increasingly demanded as more people become informed — distinctions can be made between frequencies and levels of radiation detected in different types of seafood: wild caught vs. farmed fish, and fresh or frozen vs canned, large vs. small organisms, etc. The cans of white albacore tuna (they have the least mercury content) that I have in stock, have a sell-by date but no packing date, so that makes it harder to gauge the risk. Another important product that comes from the ocean is seaweed, which I have read can help protect against absorption of Iodine radioisotopes.

    Arnie Gunderson would be a trustworthy consultant to the seafood industry and for many other products, in helping to devise a protocol for testing, reporting, publication and labeling. I don't trust the EPA or other govt agencies in this regard.

    As for swimming in the Pacific — I think it's too cold now without a wetsuit. But those brave folks that want to take the plunge and enjoy the beaches probably will want to do so while there's still a fairly low risk. Within a year, the radiation is likely to become worse. It will always be risky, though, and the main concern is possibly swallowing or breathing hot particles or taking them in through…

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    I am an herbalist and my favorite site is healingwiseforum.com Now I'm attempting to send this along its big and some things may not apply anymore due to this mess but it's good info to have From the August 2005 Idaho Observer:

    How to Detox Your Body of Depleted Uranium Residues, the Effects of Radiation, and Radioactive Contamination

    from Radiation Detox.com

    Sad but true: There are thousands of scientific references and medical studies out there on the fact that radiation and radioactivity can harm you yet, despite millions of dollars spent by the government to study radiation, virtually nothing is available about a detoxification diet or nutritional supplements you might use to minimize the effects radioactive contamination.

    Here’s some of the information we do know from the only book in the world on the topic. Keep this information in the back of your mind as it may one day help save you or someone you know.

    Iodine

    Most people are aware taking potassium iodide (KI) or potassium iodate (KIO3) tablets will help block your thyroid gland from absorbing radioactive iodine should there ever be a dirty bomb explosion or nuclear power plant mishap such as the Three Mile Island incident. In 1999, another such accident happened in Tokaimura, Japan where several individuals died from radiation exposure in a fuel processing facility.

    What people don’t recognize is that potassium iodide or iodate tablets only protect the thyroid gland and do not provide…

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Oops not sure if it all got thru but you can join the forum and do a search and perhaps we can start a dialog there on what we can do as some of the best herbalists ect are there..

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Trying with more From the August 2005 Idaho Observer:

    How to Detox Your Body of Depleted Uranium Residues, the Effects of Radiation, and Radioactive Contamination

    from Radiation Detox.com

    Sad but true: There are thousands of scientific references and medical studies out there on the fact that radiation and radioactivity can harm you yet, despite millions of dollars spent by the government to study radiation, virtually nothing is available about a detoxification diet or nutritional supplements you might use to minimize the effects radioactive contamination.

    Here’s some of the information we do know from the only book in the world on the topic. Keep this information in the back of your mind as it may one day help save you or someone you know.

    Iodine

    Most people are aware taking potassium iodide (KI) or potassium iodate (KIO3) tablets will help block your thyroid gland from absorbing radioactive iodine should there ever be a dirty bomb explosion or nuclear power plant mishap such as the Three Mile Island incident. In 1999, another such accident happened in Tokaimura, Japan where several individuals died from radiation exposure in a fuel processing facility.

    What people don’t recognize is that potassium iodide or iodate tablets only protect the thyroid gland and do not provide protection from any other radiation exposure, so taking them should not give you a false sense of security. It’s important to detox your body after radioactive exposure!

    One…

    • artika rama

      camshellernh There are lots of detox methods/ diets etc advertised to eliminate radiation but i dont think any detox would have much efect against radiation . I dont believe there is much we can do except from prevention . Once you have it its too late .
      Detox does not work that well against radiation ,, its another popular myth . A lot of alternatvie medicine salesman with each their own methods of dealing with radiation but it just doesnt work ,unfortunately.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Oh well sorry , I'll get my other computer running right in the next few days and get better at my comments … This whole thing just makes me so anxious that I feel I need to do something other than awfulizing

  • Angela_R

    clamshellernh, more so than a computer problem, I think you reached your maximum 'character limit' per post, of approx. 350 words. There is a character count below where you type.

  • I wouldn't eat any seafood from the pacific area right now. It's just sick, the level of radiation that is being spewed upon our beautiful oceans. Here is a list of things I would eat (from radiation safe areas only): http://mindbodyspirit.me/foods-that-fight-radiation-sickness-and-damage/

  • Proton

    Ouch if you've been eating the fish this whole time…

  • sbgradinnb

    I have also read about Zeolites helping to protect against radiation. Who here takes this mineral? What's a reputable online store to get them?

  • I am amazed.
    He says he will not eat the fish but he would swim in the water and breath in the fog. That does not add up. He is committing a criminal and logical error or lying.
    I say get your ass down here to the SOUTH NOW!
    We have NO-ZERO FUKU GOO in Valdivia Chile. Yes it is not completely perfect here- but close.
    Plus the strontium will not be here until 50 more years!
    restartchile.com

  • http://dailymessenger.blogspot.com/2014/01/fukushima-reactors-1-2-3-4-5-6-basic_10.html

    How do you know if your listening to a Nuclear Public Relations Firm or Nuclear Lobbyist . They will say the words iodine radiation with a half life of days without saying Uranium 234 Uranium 235 was also released with half life of 4.5 billion years , Or they say Fukushima is low risk and natural like a banana radiation and never mention Plutonium-239 . Or they say its natural low level radiation like you find in rocks ,or its natural background like you get from walking out doors , or we all live in a radiated environment . Or the most odious statement is they quote World Health Organization , a organize crime syndicate .

  • Shaker1

    I look at Arnie like I look at the the number of hammers I have in my toolbox. They range from a 4oz ball peen to a 6 lb double jack in steel with different configurations and even some I've ground myself, brass hammer, lead hammer, even wooden dowel with 2 holes into which I can insert a rod to use it as a handle or a hammer…Even at that point, and even though my box has wheels, I've been in situations in which what I had wasn't quite what I needed. So, one just has to use what's at one's disposal. If I have a 12oz ball peen in my back pocket, am 60 ft off the ground and my box is 2 blocks from where I am I will use that hammer. It may take the effort of sixty blows from that which could be accomplished with one swipe of the double jack, and, besides that I may mishit at times from all those swings and the lack of coordination that results from such repetitive muscle motions, but in the end it gets done. A statement like this from Arnie is of the 12oz variety, not the 6 lb variety that you might wish, but hey…For millenia they just used rocks. It could be worse.

  • Don't eat… the fish.

    To all visitors and the community of ENENews, the following Japan Radiation Citizen Memos are designed to be widely shared everywhere in your local and internet communities. All citizens need to know about Fukushima. Find bulletin boards in your local area and post on social websites. Tell the People.

    Japan Radiation Memo to All Citizens PDF
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    A Santa Barbara, CA doctor who ate the blue fin tuna, courageously sets an exciting example as he informs of Fukushima

    11-1-2013
    ☢ Perils of Fukushima ☢ News A Wake-up Call From Dr. Stephen Hosea
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGQPe3_ikQ

    PRACTICAL ACTIONS:
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    If not you, then who? Please tell the People

    Rad individual solutions
    http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation

  • mungo mungo

    BAD FISH…January 11, 2014

    THE ASAHI SHIMBUN
    A fish contaminated with extremely high levels of radiation was found in waters near the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, a government-affiliated research institute said.

    The Fisheries Research Agency said Jan. 10 the black sea bream had 12,400 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, 124 times the safety standards for foodstuffs.

    The fish was caught at the mouth of the Niidagawa river in Iwaki, Fukushima Prefecture, on Nov. 17. The site is 37 kilometers south of the stricken power plant.

    It was one of 37 fish-–all black sea bream–that researchers caught in waters in and off Iwaki in October and November to study the level of radiation to which they were exposed.

    The research institute said it will study the fish further to try and determine when it became contaminated with such high levels of radioactive cesium……

    • mungo mungo

      Two other fish also exceeded the safety standards of 100 becquerels per kilogram, at 426 becquerels and 197 becquerels, respectively.

      The readings of the remaining 34 fish were within the safety limits, according to the Fisheries Research Agency.

      Officials said black sea bream in the region that was covered by the recent study have not been circulated as food in fish markets.

      Black sea bream fishing in coastal waters off Fukushima and Miyagi prefectures is currently restricted.

      They are also on the list of fish that local fishermen are asked to voluntarily refrain from catching in the northern municipalities of Ibaraki Prefecture, which is located just south of Fukushima Prefecture.

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