Gundersen: “Liquid releases” of nuclear material into ocean will continue for years and years at Fukushima Daiichi — Already 10 times Chernobyl (VIDEO)

Published: March 26th, 2013 at 4:24 pm ET


Source: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of the Fukushima Nuclear Accident, Day 1
Author: The Helen Caldicott Foundation
Date Presented: March 11, 2013

At ~73:30 in

Arnie Gundersen, Fairewinds Energy Education:

The liquid releases — I really haven’t had time to even talk about them — but they’ll continue for years and years into the future.

We already know that the liquid releases are ten times Chernobyl.

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Gundersen’s full presentation here

Published: March 26th, 2013 at 4:24 pm ET


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22 comments to Gundersen: “Liquid releases” of nuclear material into ocean will continue for years and years at Fukushima Daiichi — Already 10 times Chernobyl (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    A single nuclear plant accident is taking out a country, and the ocean.

    • Yep it really is that simple.
      And we have 400 some of these monsters on the planet.

    • William doesn't think so:

      [William Davis]
      "Pineda's narrative is full of lies. I will not list them all; it's practically the entirety of the piece. I would highly recommend that someone interested in this story do some research, in order to disclose what the realities are. I would also highly recommend that the author of this story understand that his subject is both one-sided and very poorly informed. We cannot make proper choices about energy in this country having only listened to such rubbish, and I would hope that this story is permitted a printed rebuttal."

      Pu239 just gave him heck.

      Me and William are going to travel to Belarus and tell the children there just how safe nuclear power really is. Eh William? We might even do a side-trip to Southern Iraq just to prove his point.

  • If there was a free press, you would hear pundits discuss where the corium is. I don't believe they don't know. I'm sure they have a pretty good guess. Tepco and gov, Japan and US. Don't believe US secret military types don,t get secret Tepco info not made public. Avoiding panic and National Security are more important then timely information and accurate readings. How nice for them that their poisonous pollution is silent, invisible and has no smell making lying easy. How melt through or melt out can even turn into cold shut down is ridiculous to someone who has a clue as to how these poison factories work. No one is allowed near the plant harbour so who can independantly measure the water? Poor Arnie plays a tight rope game trying to tell the truth while not stepping on toes overtly if possible. And he wants to enjoy the rest of his life. For most of us here the lies are obvious and Arnie merely reinforces what we already know. Most of our associates think the crisis is over, right?

    • Mr. Gundersen is a nuke engineer, if I recall correctly. I doubt anyone in the nuke 'industry' is to be trusted. Perhaps Arnie is going to keep telling us what we already know forever.

      Tatsuzuki, vice chairman at the Japan Atomic Energy Commission in 2012 "If people keep saying it (nuclear energy) is for having nuclear weapons capability, that is not good. It's not wise. Technically it may be true, but it sends a very bad message to the international community." Tatsujiro Suzuki, vice chairman at the Japan Atomic Energy Commission in 2012

      “The atomic bomb will be accepted far more readily if at the same time atomic energy is being used for constructive ends.” Stefan Possony, a consultant to the Defense Department Psychological Strategy Board.

      • We Not They Finally

        That's really unfair to Gundersen. He's make a huge personal turn-around after seeing what's happened at Fukushima and he works closely with Helen Caldicott and other good people. Good God, if people with that level of expertise are WILLING to educate and assist, let them!

      • Arnie is to be trusted nobuggy.

        And his wife.

        If only you knew what the nuke industry did to him.

  • Mack Mack

    Nuclear pollution doesn't only get into the ocean from discharges.

    It gets there by precipation (rain and snow), too:

    From NASA:

    "…there exists a good likelihood that substantial portion of this material was captured by precipitation processes (e.g. condensation nuclei and downdrafts) and precipitated over the ocean."

    And these NASA diagrams show where rain fell on Japan after Fukushima:

    • And wind. It gets into people from American flags that flapped in that wind and wrapped around them.

      OP-ED: US Sailors Speak Out and Sue Over Contamination During Fukushima Duty

      Monday, March 25, 2013 – 18:58

      "Enis stepped out on top of the giant carrier and into a howling wind that wrapped the radiation-contaminated rag around him like a shroud. The fog-clouded wind was so contaminated that when Enis came back inside he set off alarms and was rushed to decontamination."

      "Unfortunately for the 5,500-plus crew of the USS Reagan, the carrier was sent into the plumes of cesium-137, iodine-131, xenon, krypton and other dangerous isotopes spewing from the smashed reactors and waste pools. The Navy told crew members that their external radiation doses were too low to warrant concern. After returning home, they were all obliged to sign waivers swearing that they were not sick and freeing the Navy of liability for radiation damages that may appear later."

      "“As navigators, we were aware sooner than others that the ship was in a plume of radiation,” Enis said. “And we were told not to tell the rest of the crew about our exposures.”"

      And, we have the same modus operandi for the Aircraft-Personnel Carrier called Earth.

      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


        Eloquent comments to this article by several. "And, we have the same modus operandi for the Aircraft-Personnel Carrier called Earth."

        • Jebus Jebus

          "And, we have the same modus operandi for the Aircraft-Personnel Carrier called Earth."

          Seems more like a "crazy ship of fools" this decade…

        • Thanks NoPrevarication.

          I was amazed (a few minutes ago) to observe a sea-otter walking across my lawn, sniffing at things and obviously looking for food. I wanted to scream at her (or him) "Don't eat the fish!"
          He (or she) seemed to look back at me, saying, "What bloody fish, there ain't any."

          (I'm on Vancouver Island, in Brentwood Bay, B.C.).

          We used to see a lot more seals too, about 2 years ago, but you rarely see them now.

          So, these rotten people did the same in Iraq – deliberately, and with malice aforethought. They did the same on the USS Ronald Reagan, and they're doing exactly the same to all of us on this once precious blue planet. It's really a matter for the International Criminal Court, if they had any teeth at all:

          This is serious stuff.

          I wish there were a way we could somehow jettison such people off the face of the earth (like with Spok, in one of those metal tube-things).

      • We Not They Finally

        I'd like to see the Navy overturned in court on the likes of this. Once they treat their own people like "the enemy," they deserve whatever is coming at them.

  • Fukushima is far beyond Chernobyl in it's scope as a massive historic catastrophe and has been that way since the second and third meltdowns over two years ago.

    There is no end in sight. Only a scramble to keep further, even more massive, planetary destruction and contamination from occurring.

    If the Pacific ocean was not currently being radioactively contaminated in order to keep coolant flowing, the alternative would be even more horrendous.

    🙁 That's a very scary thought!

    I hope for the day, someday, that the majority of people come to realize just how BIG the LIES to mankind have been.

  • Chasaha, yeah exactly how I feel. If the cores really are being cooled by underground streams maybe that's best case scenario and while the ocean is getting polluted maybe that's less radiation in the air I breath here on the West Coast. Sad to be thinking that way. The brandy helps.

    • We Not They Finally

      Except that it's not an either/or. Contaminate the ocean and there is less oxygen (not to mention food — the food chain is wrecked)for generations to come. And that radiation will come ashore ANYWAY — just not as quickly as air currents. However you cut it, it's an ultimate lose/lose…

  • japan guinea pig

    Population of Japan 127 million. I doubt 1 million know whats really going on, and believe me the rest of them dont want to know !!. When I speak to people they seem shocked at first then, they dont want to hear anymore. Sad really but thats the situation here, its a nation in denial and a government that is doing its best to keep people in the dark and make them think everything is ok !!. I know, because I live here…. for the moment anyway.Luckily i live about 600 miles from Fucktupshima !!.
    My wife and son left the country 2 months ago.

    • Sickputer

      Jgp sez: "Luckily i live about 600 miles from Fucktupshima !!. My wife and son left the country 2 months ago."

      SP: Glad your family got away. In the primeval struggle to survive an extinction level event it is obvious flight is superior to fight. Get out while you can…your next meal, your next drink, even your next breath of air might contain the tiny nuclear bullet that will slowly kill you.

    • We Not They Finally

      Very sorry for what you've gone through. But denial won't help the people of Japan long-range. The national genome is already wrecked. That's what's most upsetting — that any prospect of recovery is an illusion.

    • Boelie

      600 miles? that isn't far enough by miles! i live on the other side of the freaking planet and even we got a dose from that freaking plant. beter to find a different planet (to F up ofcorse thats human nature) i was sceptical about the living on mars thing in 2050, now im seriously considering it

    • Good name for it JGP.