Gundersen: Tokyo soil so hot it should be sent to nuclear waste dump — Really severe releases hit city (VIDEO)

Published: November 19th, 2012 at 2:00 pm ET
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Fairewinds Podcast, Nov. 18, 2012:

At 20:45 in

Nuclear Expert Arnie Gundersen, Fairewinds Energy Education: Our readers may remember when I came back from Tokyo back in February, I had 5 samples of dirt that I had taken just randomly around the city. They were all over 7,000 disintegrations per second in a two pound bag (Bq/kg). What that told me was that the releases from the accident were really severe even as far away as Tokyo. And I said then that if this were contaminated ground at a nuclear power plant it would have to be considered as nuclear waste. Well, we took a lot flack for that on the Fairewinds site, but we were right on the mark.

What happened just last week was that in a suburb of Tokyo another sample was taken by citizens and they brought it to the attention of the government that then sampled it. But basically they had a hot spot that was in excess of 10,000 disintegrations per second per kilogram of their sample. So here we are 9 months after I took my samples and citizens are still finding hot spots all over the Tokyo area. I think it speaks to one, the magnitude of the initial release. This was a serious release, not just for Fukushima Prefecture but for Tokyo and its suburbs as well. […]

So if Tokyo could be highly contaminated to the point where its soil should be shipped to a nuclear waste dump […] if Tokyo can have soil so hot that it should be shipped to a radioactive dump, what might happen to our nation’s capitol, the biggest city in the United States, or to L.A. in the event of a nuclear accident? We’re really not prepared. Our policy makers at the NRC have not even envisioned that as a possibility.

Entire 25-minute Fairewinds report here

Published: November 19th, 2012 at 2:00 pm ET
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22 comments to Gundersen: Tokyo soil so hot it should be sent to nuclear waste dump — Really severe releases hit city (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Time to abandon this insanely dangerous technology, and move on.

  • Sickputer

    Yes, it does bring to mind the possibility of a terrible accident and contamination of huge American cities.

    But it also means 100% of the 30+ million people in Japan are dying a slow death from radiation.

    And that's not a projection… it is happening right now in the largest city in the world.

    • You meant "Tokyo" not "Japan", but I think it's safe to assume it's going to get into places we never would have expected (possibly all of Japan) – due to all the transport vectors [ways that radiation can travel to you].

      I mean, it's reached us on the West Coast of North America – through ocean, wind, rain and other vectors.

      Bowl of rice anyone? Nice cup of green tea? I think not.

  • "The cost to keep them running is just too high."
    – A. Gundersen (final statement on the above audio.)

    "…the NRC have not even envisioned…"
    There is a lot they will never speak of and never will either.

    The potential COST to humanity from taking the risk of building the very first one of these Death Machines was never worth it.

  • dosdos dosdos

    Funny how they ran out of radium bottles last year.

    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      I don't get the reference to radium bottles. Could someone educate me please? Thank you.

      • I think it refers to a very high reading they got in Tokyo last year, eventually traced to [blamed on] some old improperly-stored radium bottles.

      • Sickputer

        Purple Rain typed these pixels of light: "I don't get the reference to radium bottles"

        SP:

        "But researchers inspecting the area and a nearby house discovered a decaying wooden box containing several glass bottles under the floorboards, where the radiation levels hit more than 30 microsieverts per hour – an alarming level.

        "Radium 226 was found in the bottles, and it is not an isotope created in uranium fission. This hot spot has nothing to do with the Fukushima nuclear accident," said an official from the science and technology ministry.

        "Some of the bottles were bearing signs indicating they were used for luminous painting, but it's difficult to identify what they were for exactly. They are so old."

        "TOKYO, Nov. 1 [2011] — According to NHK, the Japan government says the extremely high radiation dose of 170 microsieverts per hour detected at a supermarket in the residential Tokyo neighborhood of Setagaya is “most likely” caused by radium 226.

        Government scientists detected substances “related” to radium 226 at a depth of about 30 centimeters.

        Sound familiar? Japan officials has similar things to say about the other extreme hotspot in Setagaya found several weeks ago. Reports at the time indicated that not everyone was convinced.."

        http://enenews.com/strange-japan-govt-says-170-usvh-at-tokyo-supermarket-not-from-fukushima-but-radium-and-bottles-again

        SP: "Three kinds of liars: Liars, Damn liars, and Nucleocrats."

    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      The 'experts' kept discounting anyone who found a radiation hot spot after FukU happened, blaming it on 'buried radium bottles'.

      Funny how many bottles kept popping up, all over the place…

      Now the hot spots continue to be found ALL OVER, but somehow, they ran out of radium bottles.

      Maybe some of those bottles dripped radiation on the way to where they were left by some kind strangers?

      Of course, it CAN'T be FUKU… nope, never, not in a million, gajillion years.

      Tokyo; Is It Safe To Visit or Live In? http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/tokyo-is-it-safe-to-visit-or-live-in.html

  • Sickputer

    +100. They fooled a few people for a few days in 2011 with their stupid bottle tricks, but they have exhausted that feeble lie.

    Nucleocrat nonsense… They exude ignorance and avarice. The radiation is an enemy their feeble minds can't quite grasp. They just don't understand why things went so badly and why it is irreversible.

  • arclight arclight

    nice one arnie! 🙂

    whats the proprortion of strontium then?? the daichi signatures..

    are there motr than one isotopic signature for the three different explosions/criticality/smoky things??

    and how good are they at measuring strontium? would they measure the shell of flesh for strontium 90 or Yt 90?

    repost
    Oysters harvested in Miyagi after two years -Strontium levels?
    NATIONAL

    NOV. 20, 2012 – 06:20AM

    MIYAGI —

    The Karakuwa peninsula in Miyagi Prefecture, which was devastated by the tsunami on March 11, 2011, held an oyster-tasting event to celebrate the first oyster harvest in two years.

    http://nuclear-news.net/2012/11/20/oysters-harvested-in-miyagi-after-two-years-strontium-levels/

    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      Don't the ocean currents go NORTH, right past this town, where they are growing these oysters, that for some reason, are growing TWICE AS FAST as normal?

      Sounds kind of like the highly radioactive fish near Chernobyl…

      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        Meant to say going NORTH from Fukushima, which still has fuel fragments on bottom of ocean, leaking basement water into ocean, spills, etc…

        Maybe this is an indication about how desperate things are over there financially..they are willing to poison themselves, tourists and their kids, with no second thoughts.

        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          warning; gigantism is a symptom of low level radiation contamination, both in humans, animals, fish and could be oysters too?

          • arclight arclight

            hi agr
            there are precedents for getting a bumper crop after a tsunami but alot of strontium (calsium) might have aided shell growth..??
            but the interesting thing is the JT article not mentioning its been business as usual anyway?

            smooth PR from ogilvey and maher i suspect..

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Fukushima Nano Bucky Balls Weaponized With Uranium, Plutonium, And Cesium; via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/10/bucky-balls-and-fukushima-what-is-danger.html

    Time to play ball…

    Bucky ball that is…

    EVERYONE gets to play, even if they don't want to

  • Usefulbreather

    I hate to say it, but if these oysters are radioactive and part of a slow genocide in Japan, then they give the recipe, Oysters Rockefeller, an entirely new meaning that is actually more accurate than before.

  • Re: Tokyo soil so hot…
    Artist Michael Wolf did pictures of the over crowded rapid transit, where men in white gloves have been employed since 1955 to shoe horn passengers ithrough the full train doors…
    <a href="http://www.photomichaelwolf.com/china_multiples/tokyo_subway_dreams_48x60.jpg&quot; title="crowded japan">Tokyo Compression</a>