Gundersen: Unit 3 explosion “very similar” to what happened at Chernobyl — Pieces of nuclear fuel found offsite indicate fuel racks were lifted up (VIDEO)

Published: August 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am ET
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Title: Arnold Gundersen with the latest on Fukushima: its effects on Japan, and the global risks posed by the No. 4 reactor
Source: If You Love This Planet Radio
Author: Dr. Helen Caldicott
Date: July 27, 2012

Nuclear Expert Arnie Gundersen on Unit 3: Because of the fact that a few pieces of nuclear fuel found offsite, it indicates to me that the fuel racks were lifted up. The only thing that could cause that is something called a prompt moderated criticality…

Host: But that’s what happened at Chernobyl?

Gundersen: Yes, very similar.

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20 comments to Gundersen: Unit 3 explosion “very similar” to what happened at Chernobyl — Pieces of nuclear fuel found offsite indicate fuel racks were lifted up (VIDEO)

  • blackbuddha blackbudda

    my nephew died two months after chernobyl's disaster, he had 5 days
    sad but true, stop all nukes!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgMWKrQjNNM


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  • andagi andagi

    Dear Folks,
    "Licensing a nuclear power plant is … licensing random premeditated murder. First of all … you know what you're doing — so it's premeditated. You can't say, "I didn't know." Second, the evidence on radiation-producing cancer is beyond doubt. I've worked fifteen years on it, and so have many others. It is not a question any more: radiation produces cancer, and the evidence is good all the way down to the lowest doses."
    Dr. John Gofman, Medical Physicist, Emeritus, Univ. of California

    The BORAX Experiments were boiling water reactor experiments conducted by Argonne National Laboratory in the 1950's and 1960's at the National Reactor Testing Station in eastern Idaho.

    Borax experiment part 1 (11 min):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIl97ByeU_M
    Borax experiment part 2 (8 min):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUhVGH-WHKk&feature=relmfu

    Fukushima reactor #3 explosion (13 sec):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31QiQbTS7eE&feature=related
    ?Fire/explosion reactor #4:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=WYHQuzmeM6M&NR=1
    Fukushima explosion:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_ZRO5oATk&feature=related

    Aloha.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_ZRO5oATk&feature=related


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  • Radio VicFromOregon

    Arnie is one of the few holdouts for this theory of a prompt moderated criticality. I think that his accumulated knowledge and long honed instincts are quite correct. It's costing him and his wife, Maggie, some stress, income, pressure from colleagues, and threats from the industry and pro-nuke politicians, but he hasn't backed down. If his theory is right, it will show that nuclear reactors, whether by human error at Chernobyl during a failed experiment, or human greed, poor design, and natural causes at Fukushima, cannot be made safe once a reactor breeches. This essentially demonstrates, at least to me with my very limited technical knowledge, that beyond all doubt, reactors are, indeed, quickly and easily converted into detonating nuclear bombs simply by withholding electricity to run them. Take down a nearby power grid and you have an unstoppable bomb within hours. Arnie and Maggie – my deepest thanks.


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      "This essentially demonstrates, at least to me with my very limited technical knowledge, that beyond all doubt, reactors are, indeed, quickly and easily converted into detonating nuclear bombs simply by withholding electricity to run them. Take down a nearby power grid and you have an unstoppable bomb within hours."

      You mean, like this?

      'Electric Grid Is Vulnerable to a Big Solar Blow; Officials Spar Over What to Do'

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303505504577404360076098508.html

      Or, translated, they're going to do nothing until it all fails, the plants blow up and melt, and tell us to our faces that they didn't know anything about this, it couldn't have been foreseen, and they're sorry we're all dying.


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      • Excellent point Time is Short


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      • hbjon hbjon

        One other ingredient is needed for the bomb. Back up generator failure and or coolant pipe failures. In other words, a failure to provide coolant to the fuel. I actually conducted an experiment this summer to see if smiling could minimize the affects of radiation. I made my brother smile the whole time we were fishing out in the boat, and he had a worse sunburn than I did, and I wasn't smiling. Still unknown weather or not he will develop cancer from the burn.


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        • Radio VicFromOregon

          I think we've seen that the back up generators with offsite connection vulnerability is one of the weak links at all NPPs. Sorry about your brother ;-)


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      • Also terror groups are actively working to wreck our electric grid with cyber attacks. There was a bill being pushed to force electric companies, chemical plants, refineries, etc to add security to their networks … But they lobbied against it and the Republicans killedthe bill saying it would be unfair for these procitable companies to spend any of their profit on protecting against a catastrophe.


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        TIS, you've got me trying to think outside the usual box. I wonder if society could move in the direction of requiring all regulators to live on the site of whatever they are regulating, and further, require all regulators to be physically present as part of the repair efforts whenever a crisis hits.

        This could take the form of letting the nuke experts regulate their own industry (presently unthinkable because they could hide from the consequences of their decisions) and might keep the bureaucrats out of the loop, since they add nothing but obfuscation presently.

        Just the bare bones of an idea, but the intent is to eliminate all the middlemen and make sure the decision makers have their own skin in the game.


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        • aigeezer aigeezer

          More stream of consciousness – in the spirit of Reagan's comment about Soviet nukes, "trust but verify"….

          Let industries self-regulate (cut the politicians, lobbyists and bureaucrats from the loop) but add webcams galore in all nuke plants, food processing plants, strip mines, courtrooms, meetings, any area affecting the public…. Let the Great Unwashed (you and me) watch and comment on how the game is played rather than hear the spinmeisters assure us that the game is played "with no immediate danger to the public".

          Every document a public document. No redactions. No secrets that the public they serve must not know. No secrets that "those other human beings" must not know. "We're all insiders now".

          Privacy advocates might cringe, but we lost our privacy long ago. Why should only the Gov/Corp players have privacy today? At present Gov/Corp has given itself the right to know everything "the people" do, think and say. Time to reciprocate?

          "Wikileaks realtime" – every politician's nightmare.

          Hehe – for 10 bonus points, would you rather spend an hour of your life watching live close-up video of whatever is going on at Fukushima Daiichi (ready to challenge any perceived anomaly) or passively watching the Olympics? If you've chosen to read Enenews comments on a glorious summer day then I think I know your answer. ;-)


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