Hawaii TV: There was a radiation person out here checking debris from Fukushima — Officials buy ‘state of the art’ detectors — “Will be with us for a number of years” (VIDEO)

Published: September 24th, 2012 at 12:14 am ET
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Title: New radiation detector monitors tsunami debris
Source: KHON2
Reporter: Tammy Mori
Date: 9/23 6:18 pm

h/t Enformable

The City’s Emergency Services Department just got a brand new [$15,000] state of the art radiation detector.

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[C]ity, state and federal agencies are using extra caution when handling the debris.

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NOAA says that blue box was a seafood bin straight from Fukushima, Japan.

“[...]  it was only a couple a days later where there was a radiation person out here,” said [DB Dunlap].

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Friday the city got a portable device that will make it quicker to test potentially dangerous marine debris.

If suspicious debris were to wash ashore, lifeguards could wear a personal protective radiological detector

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“[W]hat we are expecting is to continuously find debris on the beach that will be with us for a number of years,” said John Cummings, Public Information Officer with the City Department of Emergency Management.

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Federal and state agencies have similar technology and are working together to recover tsunami debris.

Watch video of the massive dock from Japan recently spotted in Hawaii here

Published: September 24th, 2012 at 12:14 am ET
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14 comments to Hawaii TV: There was a radiation person out here checking debris from Fukushima — Officials buy ‘state of the art’ detectors — “Will be with us for a number of years” (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    We'll need several readings from private citizens. The more, the better.


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  • Canuck1

    I agree forget the government official testing the junk. We need a rich citizen buying a few of these devices, set up a "radiation club" and test the debris. Then report it on a BLOG.


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  • I want to see some readings.

    What are the LEVELS?
    Show us a test or two would be the right thing to do.

    This report also makes no 'real' mention of the ongoing releases of contamination from Fukushima's 3 meltdowns nor that there is no end in site to the contamination.

    It's not a matter of if the radiation is there, it's more like, how MUCH is there and for how long will it continue to accumulate and spread.


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  • Lee Binder

    Radioactive Japanese debris emitting "threatening" levels of Fukushima Gamma radiation has arrived on Hawaiian shores!

    Gov. scientist w/ industry grade $15,000 radiation detector measuring at an unspecified distance from the object: "This is a threat at this distance. [..] Gamma radiation is being emitted from this source. You also know the isotope."

    The label on the bin ("Y.K Suisan Co., Ltd.") and the isotope (which also remained unmentioned) allowed tracking back the source to Fukushima, Japan.

    The really bad news is: the bin is the first confirmed piece of marine debris from last year's Japan tsunami to arrive on Hawaiian shores [the dock is still floating on the ocean as of 2012-10-24], AND IT IS DANGEROUSLY RADIOACTIVE!! This is a very very bad sign, smothering hopes that the Hawai'i Nei with all its life in the ocean and on the land might somehow not be affected. Now we know with certainty we don't ..

    This also means that:

    1. the Hawaiian ocean water itself and the sea life in it will very most likely from (at least) now on have some degree of radioactive contamination! And this again means that we DO NEED TO KNOW THESE VALUES! We have to step on our representatives' toes that from now on samples of ocean water and sea food HAVE TO BE TAKEN REGULARLY AND TESTED FOR RADIOACTIVE ISOTOPES!

    2. we are advised to adapt our times in the ocean: minimize it, esp. on days when a lot of debris is washing on shore.

    3. educate our surroundings!…


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  • Lee Binder

    PLEASE TELL EVERYBODY YOU KNOW, ESP. W/ CHILDREN, about what this new impact means. Our lives here on Hawaii are now changed forever – REGARDLESS if we like it or not ..

    Two side notes:

    1. Neither of the two KHON2 anchor women considered it within their responsibility to issue warnings to the public, that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ANY DEBRIS ON THE SHORES MAY BE TOUCHED, AND EVEN WALKED NEAR TO, but instead has to be circumnavigated WITH AS MUCH DISTANCE AS POSSIBLE due to the highly penetrating nature of Gamma rays! Tammy Mori, shame on you. Why do you think (to quote yourself), the gov. officials have to "take extra caution to handle the debris"? That's only valid for them, but not for anybody else?

    2. I cannot fathom how D.B. Dunlap was not even thinking about radiation when he was fishing the bin out of the ocean at Makai Pier … how ignorant can one be .. but on the other hand, assessing KHON2 extremely bad job with this report, I can kind of get an idea why …

    Both, the negligent report and the careless initial handling of the dangerously radiating bin clearly depicts that we need to do better – much better. PLEASE DO YOUR PART AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE!

    sources:
    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/19580320/hawaii-experts-examine-possible-tsunami-debris

    http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/565239/Bin-confirmed-to-be-tsunami-debris.html?nav=5031

    Aloha,
    Lee Binder


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  • Maggie123

    All along shorelines, Hawaii and elsewhere, stay safe! Earlier suggestions that the debris left Japan before the nuclear disaster, therefore should have minimal if any contamination, made sense to me.

    If so, how did contamination occur? Now I'm wondering about debris "time in water". Is debris picking up contamination from the water? .. or … was at least some of the debris contaminated before entering the ocean?


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    • Answer: Rain. Fallout via the Jet stream is one way.

      Also ask yourself. If the seaweed in California's coastal waters were contaminated then wouldn't other stuff be. Milk tested in California. etc…
      (see prior articles at enenews)

      Fallout travels, spreads and unfortunately has continued to accumulate for over 18 months.

      The debris was not all that far ahead. Couple of days.

      Also, other research I've done shows how some debris travels with the currents below the waves which move at different speeds. So the high levels of ocean contamination, which are probably off the scale, will either arrive with the mixed debris or just behind it.
      (for years to come) :(


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      • Maggie123

        Thanks ChasAha – your explanation makes so much sense I'm a bit annoyed at myself for not thinking of it! Duh – especially rain!

        If I gather the general sense of what you've found and conclude – then everything washing in is *more* rather than less likely to be contaminated, and likely to be so at increasing levels, as time goes on.


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        • No problem. I have heard several reports and articles state the same thing.

          My other considerations here would be about the tuna that swim through the stuff. Some will die on the way. The Tuna is contaminated. It's decay will 'spread' the radiation.

          Other creatures will survive and float with the debris. When this sea life reproduces will it be affected? Probably.

          Some types debris can absorb more radiation. Things that float like wood absorb a lot.

          The mixture of other toxins from household items alone is a major concern too.

          One thing for sure is we're going to find out soon enough.
          Or will we?


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          • Maggie123

            ChasAha – re subsequent generations of sea life that survive: from what we've learned *some* will show radical change (and not live/thrive); all that do survive will carry 'sleeper' mutation possibilities.

            While from immediate creature deaths, as you say, decay will 'spread' the radioactivity.

            And across land – via jet stream – "sprinklings" to have subtle immediate or eventual cumulative effect.

            And as you note – household toxins via the debris,(I've been mindful of those for years as a general concern and would add industrial and agricultural, via debris or not, to overall earth/life damage')

            And of course the water cycle keeping all these at play and moving them about, n. plants elsewhere aging and 'leaking'.

            Impossible-to-clear toxifying in every direction!

            It seems like the best we can do is take available precautions, take stands where/when we can, and carry on, waiting for consequences and applying counter measures as we can here/there!!

            I'm not having a lot of luck getting people here (east of Rockies) to show much interest. I post away, however, by email and comments elsewhere.

            I've been in a "heads up" state on earth degradation for decades, but don't think I can fully appreciate just how "iffy" continuation of life as we know it may be! (Not sure it would help if I did!)

            (Good Morning! Thanks for input!) :)


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  • Lee Binder

    Now what: they added a transcript of that video on the KHON2 page

    http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/New-radiation-detector-monitors-tsunami-debris/Fyq-R51a0EOIymgNFSuaJw.cspx

    here’ what it now reads:

    “NONE of the debris has been found to be radioactive.”

    ?

    When you listen to the video, the news anchor Tamee Mori mumbles pretty much trips over her own hush-hush speed at that spot, and what she says much rather sounds like ONE .. ?

    Why then is she asking the guy who found the bin from Fukushima, “Were you worried about radiation at all”?


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  • Paiute023 Paiute023

    reports of huge reef DIE-OFFS on Kaua'i ..Radiation? it's MAD !!! Hawai'i is closer to Japan than West coast US ,so why aren't this guys taking it seriously???????


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    • Paiute023 Paiute023

      and..Large-scale die offs of Sea Urchins off ,Kaua'i's southern tip ,off of Port allen.Feb 18,2012 -garden island newspaper


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      • Lee Binder

        a known pollution factor which compromises marine life is pesticides from the GMO fields in the south (above all Monsanto), which are the largest on this planet (right here in "Paradise" ..): the rain washes the pesticides (all kinds of which they "test" here) into the streams which run into the ocean …


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