High levels of radiation in rice from Obama district — “Set off alarm in the Japanese media”

Published: September 24th, 2011 at 6:43 am ET
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Fukushima finds cesium in Nihonmatsu rice, to hold more tests before shipment decision, Mainichi, September 24, 2011:

The Fukushima Prefectural Government said on Sept. 23 that it had detected 500 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram — the government-set allowable limit — in a sample of “Hitomebore” rice collected in Nihonmatsu’s Obama district. It will greatly increase the number of testing locations there for a second test to decide whether to allow shipments of rice from the city. [...]

According to the prefectural government, 500 becquerels of radioactive cesium were detected in a rice sample collected on Sept. 12, and soil in its paddy field contained 3,000 becquerels of cesium per kilogram. [...]

News of the elevated radiation level in rice from Nihonmatsu city, 55 kilometers (35 miles) west of the nuclear plant, set off alarm in the Japanese media. -AP

Japan Finds High Levels of Radiation in Rice -VOA

Published: September 24th, 2011 at 6:43 am ET
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177 comments to High levels of radiation in rice from Obama district — “Set off alarm in the Japanese media”

  • Can they detect a clue as to when the Japanese government will be actively evacuating tokyo?


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    • Sickputer

      TG: I don’t think the government feels that is an option yet because it will mean total collapse of the social system. Individual family units are beginning to flee from all the central prefectures… Moving south or emigrating.

      Japan is in a bad situation and bad news keeps trickling out at s slow rate regulated by the government. Half-truths do not inspire confidence for the educated middle and upper classs. Their fear is palpable… I can sense it from here by blog reports.


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    • This troubled planet is a place of most violent contrasts — those who receive the rewards are totally separated from those who shoulder the burdens. It is not a wise leadership.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Yes, there is a lot of fear in Japan right now. Unfortunately most of it is well-grounded and rational fear. I do not believe they will evacuate Tokyo because I think if they did that the entire world economy would collapse overnight. They think it is better for the government of Japan to collude with a private corporation in the long-term mass cellular mutilation of the Japanese people I guess. Personally, I’d rather have Tokyo evacuated and deal with the poverty from the world economy collapsing afterwards. it is better to have world poverty than mass genetic/cellular extinction over the next one to five generations!!


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      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        I’m not so sure evacuating Tokyo will end the problems with the reactors. It will save many lives, but radiation will still be escaping into the environment. The “mass cellular mutilation” will continue unabated until which time, if ever, that the fuel stops emitting particles. And that ain’t gonna happen soon, “soon” being a relative term, relative to the age of mankind in this case……..


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        • My thoughts…
          Japan as a nation should Evacuate women and children (free of charge)…

          Thats should be the titanic philosophy to any real crisis.

          Men should be liquidators… (should they choose to).

          In the event any man is over 18 & chooses ‘not’ to be liquidated. He should have no assistance in his relocation plans or costs …
          (time to put your big boy pants on)…

          GO to war, or walk away…
          The choice of a new generation.


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    • rooks rooks

      They will not. I have visited this site for months and as a person bearing witness to this, the international community must step in IMHO. Buildings within Tokyo register at over 300 CPMs. I am trying to leave here as it is only getting worse. The Japanese are very respectful but probably the worst nation to try and overcome this. I could care less about the economy. All I would like for nor is for them to start evacuating the cities of Koriyama and Fukushima.


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    • maaa

      10.50uSv/h was detected on the train from Narita airport (Chiba) to Tokyo,Yokohama!!!!!!!!

      http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/news-10-50usvh-on-the-train/


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  • Sickputer

    And so it begins…the early assurances of Fukushima safe 2011 rice from the government are false.

    Prediction: The mad scramble for safe imported food crops among the middle and upper classes. The poor Japanese will eat the dangerous crops. Mislabeling of food origins will create a climate of fear and mistrust in Japan.

    The reputation of the government slips to a new low.


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @Sickputer

      “Mislabeling of food origins will create a climate of fear and mistrust in Japan.”

      Something similar is happening in the U.S. Where labels on produce used to say which state they were from, they often now just say “USA”. Crafty aren’t they? They know that we know where radiation has been highest and do not wish to buy vegetables from those areas so they make it impossible to know exactly where they were grown.

      Who benefits? Big agribusiness. Who loses? Always us.


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    • Bobby1

      “The mad scramble for safe imported food crops among the middle and upper classes.”

      I’m in the US and have been scrambling madly since April.

      How ironic that enlightened Americans pity the poor Japanese while they themselves consume radioactive poison every day.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      I agree. Food will now become a class issue in Japan unless its people can truly band together in this moment of disaster and make sure that ALL JAPANESE HAVE THE RIGHT TO RADIATION-FREE FOOD!!

      Otherwise the poor will experience the effects of chronic internalized radio-nuclides sooner and earlier than the rich.


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  • maaa

    Japanese eating rice which the whole world considers radioactive waste.


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  • Mack Mack

    I am very concerned about the radiation-accumulation factor for the people of Japan.

    Japan sets these “legal limits” for radiation in food:

    * 2,000 becquerel per kilogram for seafood

    * 500 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram for rice

    * Approx. 600 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium for tea leaves

    * Approx. 500 becquerels for beef

    * Approx. 400 becquerels for mushrooms…

    If you start adding up the radiation ingested from food…the inhalation of radiation (residual or from incinerating nuclear waste)…radiation in the drinking water…in the milk…

    The radiation exposure adds up.

    And there are scientists who believe there is no safe exposure to radiation…

    It’s very concerning.


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    • many moons

      Today it’s Japan, tomorrow it’s you Mack…and everyone. We should all keep a close eye on the population of Japan because it will be a preview to all of our fates.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      It is more than concerning. It is a high crime. It is the worst kind of crime a government can perpetrate against its people, who tend to trust it. “Trust Daddy State! He Will Protect You!”
      Meanwhile, Corporate TEPCO Daddy State is re-writing the regulations to make sure you get poisoned. I hope all trust fails between the Japanese people and their government. They need 60 million people in the streets of Tokyo protesting. Maybe then we will all wake up!


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    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      How many here think Japan, or any government for that matter, tests enough food that they can safely guarantee all food is withing legal limits? I sure as hell don’t. I can very easily imagine large amounts of untested food stuffs being consumed that if tested, would need to be destroyed. Don’t kid yourselves, this is not over by a long shot and all of our food and water is being contaminated.


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  • suzie-Q

    Won’t the people who eat all this food and breath the particles and drink radioactive water become radioactive and become dangerous to be near? If this is true won’t it be hard for them to find other places to live? When is it too late to evacuate?


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    • many moons

      Very good point Suzie…Given that most countries have closed door policy for immigration, the population of Japan would probably be unwelcomed by the majority of countries, imagine how difficult it would be to leave Japan radioactive.


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    • ocifferdave

      i was wondering the same. I think the answer is yes. Adopted kids from japan should be given new clothes after A good shower, old items burried 10 feet under, and thier new home have no other children nor child bearing women folk.


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      • jonjon

        You seem to have this misconception that all of Japan is contaminated. Japan stretch from south to north, with the south part situated west of the north half. DOn’t forget the west coast of the US has more cesium deposition from fukushima than the better half (not contaminated yet) of Japan.

        Of course the biggest worry for south Japan is the circulation contaminated food and also the shipment of southerners food to the tokyo region. So are we left with in the south? This is gonna become a problem…


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        • jonjon

          I meant: What are we left with in the South?

          Hopefully not food they don’t want in the North…

          I know people who have the means in Tokyo,in fact my sister and her family, get organic food shipments from the south, not from foreign countries.


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          • Sickputer

            I was listening to Yoichi Shimatsu six weeks ago on Rense radio and he said the cesium was bad in the soil in southern Japan. It’s everywhere in Japan and I doubt the crops grown there in the south are safe. Too many sidewinds from Fukushima and the ground zero circle of severe contamination is expanding.


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          • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

            Praying to God, jonjon…..Your survival spirit is strong.
            They are apparently, reportedly, BURNING radioactive
            sewage sludge, and I would guess also any debris,
            flotsam and jetsam reading hot enough to warrant.
            This means you-all are getting variable, wind-driven
            poison from day-to-day.
            Also, your taken-for-granted, shipped-in supplies
            are going to be subject to economic forces.
            You may find your money disappeared, and, as
            posted here much earlier by our toughest Survivalists,
            They Will Not Accept even Your GOLD! in exchange for
            their home-grown, carefully tended, safe FOODSTUFFS!
            This is the reality you Face.
            How valuable are you, and You, to the Master Chinese
            Overlords of the Economic Future?
            Are you real well educated? A Salaryman?
            If so, you are already better than 90% of Americans.


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          • Arizonan Arizonan

            They have been burning radioactive waste in the South. The contamination is still spreading. See recent Busby video.


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        • stock stock@hawaii.rr.com

          Actually, Japan stretches mostly east to west, check it out on a map, it is weird.


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    • That is right: the same little bits of cesium that kill one person can continue to kill others. In the case of isotopes of plutonium and others that last for hundreds or thousand of centuries, the same one speck can cause lung cancer for untold generations… if humankind makes it that far at all.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Beta and gamma particles, once they get inside the body, cannot radiate outwards again. Only gamma can do that. They can only leave through urine and feces, and then only if they are soluble radio-nuclides. If they have been burned in a massive fire at a nuclear power plant, they are more than likely no longer soluble. They would be insoluble after being fired at high temperatures. The body does not get rid of these so easily or so quickly. They can stay longer in the lung and the gut. At least, so Rosalie Bertell reliably informed me many years ago when we were working at the UN in Geneva on a DU statement.


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      • Arizonan Arizonan

        This is one reason why the sewage sludge in Japan is concentrating radio-nuclides. Everyone now ingesting or inhaling radioactive particles is also busy expelling them. But you can stand next to them! Just don’t eat them! :)


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    26000 gallons of untreated sewage dumped at San Onofre on 09/23/2011:

    http://decommission.sanonofre.com/


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    I am BB! Felt so nauseated yesterday…today I’M GOOD TO GO! Yahoo! Hope your well!


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      And I must apologize for “screaming” get to HP. That was uncalled for. Sometimes I get excited in the wrong way. lol!


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      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        We all here love your energy (at least I do)


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      • Steven Steven

        I started out ‘crossing swords’ with some of the pro nuclear guys on their home turf but found it way too frustrating. For one thing I don’t have enough knowledge of the subject, second the science itself is owned by them if you know what I mean. Hard to make any sort of case when they constantly pull you up on some hidden aspect of their box of tricks.

        Personally I don’t think they provide fertile ground for the seeds of change. They will likely be the last to realise what they have done. Unless you have great debating skills and a good knowledge of nuclear power it’s probably best to stay informed (by visiting ENENEWS) and keep trying with your established contacts. I’m not saying you need to do that Whoopie, but that’s where I’m at right now. All power to you if you can make a dent :)


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        • Whoopie Whoopie

          Yeah we hear that all the time from the NRC TROLLS. And like you, I can’t really debate them well. I haven’t the skills. There’s others at HP who have the education and call them out all the time. Me? I’m energized with getting INFO out, spreading links and such. The rest, I leave to others THERE.


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        • Bobby1

          The pro-nuke people just want to play with their nuclear toys, they don’t care if their friends and neighbors start dropping dead. They don’t deserve the respect of being debated with.

          They don’t have any understanding of global radiation dispersal or radiation health effects anyway, it’s not their expertise.


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            True. In fact, we haven’t seen Atoms for a long time. A few others. Maybe lull before the storm…who knows. :)


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          • Steven Steven

            That’s a strong point you make there Bobby1. These guys are not qualified in the medical aspects of radiation exposure, it’s got to be their weak flank in an argument. Pity the medical community is so divided on the issue, unfortunately I think events will lead to that changing though :(


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          • ocifferdave

            Its ironic how we wish the nuke peeps would fold up, quit, and go home. If they did that the plants would be left unatended. Meltdowns galore. We *gag* need them *choke* to keep the planet livable. Soon even they wont be able to even do that. Germany, can we borrow your leaders? It seems you cant eliminate nukes whole sale unless you have it also pushed by the top.


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            True about that Steven. They dont have a clue and RARELY address the Medical aspects at HP. MONEY is their bottomline.
            But why is the Medical community so divided Steven? Saw a Doctor post on the TRAIN ACT who said he’s seen an increase in sick kids coming in with asthma and such, saying these illnesses will effect them the rest of their lives ect. WHY is the Medical field so SILENT on the Radiation coming from Japan? Of course I replied about the radiation coming from Japan. He never responded.


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          • Steven Steven

            @ ocifferdave

            Too true, you can’t just flick a switch so at least they don’t have to worry about unemployment when we kick their butts lol.

            @ Whoopie

            Any sort of scientist (and doctors are) need an avalanche of supporting data before they commit to a viewpoint. It’s one of my big bitches with science, if your gut tells you something it’s probably worth listening. But TPTB have taken some considerable trouble in restricting and manipulating the data, so the medical profession hasn’t had that much to work with. Helen Caldicott is putting that right, thankfully (she’s an Aussie too btw – yay).


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          • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

            @officerdave, you don’t want to borrow our leaders, believe me. Merkel always was pro-nuke and still is.
            We already had a law to abandon nuclear power in 2001! (Phaseout was planned to happen until 2022, everybody was happy).
            After she bacame chancellor in 2009, Merkel took that law back and granted additional 15 years for the nukes.

            We only stopped this with massive demaontrations and (sadly) Fukushima. But Merkel hates to see it happen.


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            Thanks for that Steven. I’m proud of Caldicott and the others speaking out. But yes, there’s too few of them damn it all!!

            That’s TERRIBLE news about Merkel BB. In fact, that blows me away. So it’s all a RUSE? this move to GO GREEN? And here I’m always praising HER/Germany at HP. Good grief. :(


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          • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

            Hey Whoopie, I know, these background info didn’t make it to the international media… she has lost all credibility over here, when she starts talking about renewables everyone is like “…yeah..right”.
            When she passed the law for the 15 years plus, she called it “nothing less than a revolution”. That was in October 2010.

            And we were fuming.


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            Hey BB. THAT :( Makes me sooooo very MAD.


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          • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

            Whoopie, but – you know what? We the people DID it!!
            And if any crazy government will only TRY to get the nukes back, 6 hrs later 200.000 will be in the streets.
            That makes me glad :-)


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            BB! Now that’s what I like to hear!!
            Thanks! :)


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          • Belief systems & quotes: “The more you get paid by the nuclear power industry, the more likely you are to avoid expanding your knowledge of the subject beyond the nuclear power industries ‘talking point’ manual.” – by anonymous (probably a former Nuclear Industry Employee… I’m just guessing.)

            It’s a ‘belief system’, most of these arrogant experts are not going to change any time soon. They will continue to spin and talk “acceptable limits” and make comparisons to bananas and use ‘deniable credibility’ when it comes to deaths, suffering and genetics. They will continue to push their agenda for your own good. It’s not really for your own good, but that’s what they believe. (sort of)

            “There is no safety in unlimited technological hubris” – McGeorge Bundy Adviser to J.F.K.

            (Nuclear Power is…) “Nasty stuff. Too nasty to entrust to those driven by profits. These clowns have had sufficient generations to play god with their dangerous toys and dreams of ‘saving’ us from something other than themselves.” – George Kamburoff

            My Favorite:
            “…advanced degrees confer no special expertise in either common sense or morality. That’s why many laymen are better qualitfied to judge nuclear power than are the so-called experts.” – Dr. John Gofman Medical Physicist (Nuclear Power Pioneer)
            http://www.nuclearfreeplanet.org/articles/nuclear-witnesses-insiders-speak-out-john-w-gofman-medical-physicist.html#


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          • americancommntr

            After months of reading the articles on enenews.com, and learning more about nuclear power and fallout, a thought certainly occurs. It is that in all likelihood, a huge percentage of the deaths of loved ones from cancer were due to the nuclear industry.


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          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            @ Steven.
            Before you arrived… I didn’t know what was the matter.
            Now that your here….. my heart goes pitter patter……..<3..<3


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          • ReactorHalfEmpty

            BreadAndButter:
            “And we were fuming.”

            Indeed, I was also VERY annoyed (to put it mildly) about that braindead decision of prolonging service life of these things after the prior agreement to put an end to it soonish.


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        • many moons

          Steven, at this point in time, debating with pro nuke know it alls is like shoot fish in a barrel! They have NO argument…we both know that! I’d put my money on the first grader to win that debate….


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            Ditto that moons. Ditto that. :)


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            Morning DAVE. For some reason I think of 2001 the movie saying that. :) Occifer is better!


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          • Steven Steven

            You may be right… I haven’t tried since getting stonewalled in the first couple of months (of the crisis). Maybe even they can see the writing on the wall now.


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          • ocifferdave

            @SuperWhoopieTheAwesome–good morning to u 2. :) . And i like 2001, and the two books after it.


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          • Sickputer

            +1

            Noda: I crapped my pants again! Even a first grader can smell it!


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          • Arizonan Arizonan

            Yes, I think even those of us without advanced degrees in nuclear physics and engineering, cellular biology and cancer etiology are slowly beginning to win the argument. I hope the long bibliography I have posted on the new “FORUM: Effects of low level radiation” will be helpful in these debates. You CAN do it, even if a layperson. Just read a little bit in Bertell or Calidcott or or Busby or Gofman or Sternglass about how to counter their arguments. It won’t take you long. Or just post their arguments here and let us all have a go at them!


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          • Arizonan Arizonan

            Although it is also true that there is an awful lot of time wasted in engaging the pro-nuclear community in a debate they think they can buy off anyway. Like Busby said, it is a tennis match. A lot of people are tired of th4e damn tennis match. I agree with Whoopie, getting the word out to ordinary people in an understandable form is probably more important.


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        • staycalm

          Frankly it needs people with knowledge here, not hearsay. That is not in any way saying that the whitewashers are needed, oh no. It would be good to have some facts rather than just specualtion from people who can’t articulate from a position of proper understanding of the subject.

          Like me, for instance. I couldn’t even start to comprehend the technical side of things properly let alone comment about it myself.


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            No pretension here either staycalm. I can’t begin to understand it all. and I dont pretend I do. When certain people speak up (here and HP) I LISTEN, damn straight. :)


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          • lam335 lam335

            The problem is, most of the people with the technical knowledge work in the industry. There are only a few knowledgable people with engineering expertise (like Gundersen, David Lochbaum) who are willing to speak out because the nuke industry is where people with such knowledge are generally employed. There are also a few doctors speaking out. As a group, doctors are arguably the best positioned to speak out since they do have scientific expertise to dispute the engineers regarding health effects and they don’t have a vested interest in the nuke technology/industry. Still, the rest of us are citizens who must live in the world and be affected by this stuff, so while recognizing the limits of our knowledge, we still need to speak out so that others are made to think about it too. In Japan when regular people would try to speak out against nuclear (before Fuk), the “experts would essentially intimidate them by ratcheting up the level of technical jargon in their responses so that the farmers, etc. would feel unworthy/unable to speak on the issue and give up. We can’t let that continue. We need to find good solid sources coming from experts/organizations with with solid credentials (like Union of Concerned Scientists and cite that stuff to back up our views.


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          • lam335 lam335

            By the way, one of Busby’s videos has a really interesting discussion of how IAEA got jurisdiction over making pronouncements about radiation health effects instead of the WHO.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUP9dYgCnGg&feature=related

            The relevant segment occurs here: 03:58 to 07:30, esp. around 06:30.


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        • Anthony Anthony

          americancommntr
          I think you hit it right on the head.


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  • arclight arclight

    read the comments section…its a right rivetting read…trust me!!


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    • arclight arclight

      oops heres the rest

      First Instance of #Radioactive Rice with 500 Bq/Kg of Radioactive Cesium from Nihonmatsu City in Fukushima
      “Old municipalities [now incorporated into a bigger city, as in the case of Iwashiro District] whose samples all test below the standard [200 becquerels/kg] in the preliminary survey will only need to test 2 samples per district, and if the 2 samples test below the standard the shipment of rice from the entire district will be allowed. In a “special survey area”, 2 samples from every 15 hectares will be tested. If all samples test below the national provisional safety limit, then the shipment of rice from the district will be allowed. If one sample exceed the provisional safety limit, the shipment is banned for the entire district.

      In Japanese, this type of testing is called “ざる” – pronounced “za-ru” – sieve. It still caught 500 becquerels/kg cesium rice, to the dismay of Fukushima producers and the prefectural government.”
      http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/first-instance-of-radioactive-rice-with.html


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  • arclight arclight

    this is the future of the east coast of japan…dependant on how the sediment moves…its not just the rice thats the problem!!

    Scottish nuclear fuel leak ‘will never be completely cleaned up’The Scottish Environment Protection Agency has abandoned its aim to remove all traces of contamination from the north coast seabed

    Wednesday 21 September

    “The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) has decided to give up on its aim of returning the seabed near the plant to a “pristine condition”. To do so, it said, could cause “more harm than good”.”

    “The most radioactive of the particles are regarded by experts as potentially lethal if ingested. Similar in size to grains of sand, they contain caesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years, but they can also incorporate traces of plutonium-239, which has a half-life of over 24,000 years”

    And this is where they are heading with this

    “a Sepa spokeswoman told the Guardian.
    “Trying to achieve it might also cause more harm than good. There is the potential that ecosystems may be destroyed on trying to get to something which does not pose a significant hazard.””

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/21/scottish-nuclear-leak-clean-up


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  • shaktasna999

    The contaminated crops will not be destroyed in whole. They will make a show of burning a bit. Then they will send the contaminated rice to starving countries as a donation(or sell to governments that look the other way.)

    China is one of those countries. Americans will not question where their cheap rice packaged under a generic brand has come from. They’ll just be glad it’s cheap.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Just came through a Tweet! Yahoo!
    Fukushima citizens lobby in U.S. against nuclear energy
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/09/20/politics/japan-us-anti-nuclear
    BBL


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  • midwestern midwestern

    “Obama district”–kind of ironic and weird that of all possible districts it would come from Obama. Dear President, could the higher powers be trying to get your attention? Please listen.


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Howdy…not just Hearsay…TPTB revealing their knowledge
    via cryptic messages…the Swiss Ten-Franc Banknote:
    (Hey anybody who thinks anything is Off-Topic…
    the Time is NOW!)
    Obama Soetoro, Pride of the CIA and Goldman, will
    Officially be in DENVER Sept. 27.
    A youtube vid tells of all military leaves cancelled
    for that week around Cheyenne Mountain/NORAD.
    Sept. 27…….Main stresses of planetary alignments.
    WHY would the Swiss Bankers publish this mystery?
    SOME people are Meant to Know Things, while others
    criticize, because they lack enough elementary education
    to put diverse factors together in crystallized appreciation
    of actual REALITY.
    ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxFmEtFc2s&feature=player_embedded


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi Elenin, well…..nope. Not for me. That story has been circling the net since April / May, and I find it really far-fetched.
      Do you think anything special will happen on Sept. 27?


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Boy Elenin, that’ll be something to watch. I’ll mark my calendar…just to see if it’s true. One never knows anymore what these g.d. people are up to.


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    • StillJill StillJill

      Do you realize Jack,…that those symbols are also
      GERMANIC RUNES?


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      • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

        Wow, Jill…too bad I’m such a underachiever!
        I wonder whut them there RUNES say?
        I recall a poster somewhere bringing in
        RAGNAROK, that this Mythological image actually
        has something to do with the approaching Nemesis,
        like Anne McCaffrey used some of these themes in her
        “Dragonriders of Pern”- a periodic threatening planet
        which returns after such a long time, the cultural
        memories are lost, except to a few Intelligentsia.


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    • StillJill StillJill

      The five runes pictured in that video Jack said the following: “Hail” “The Precipitation—-80#’er anyone–like in Revelation.
      2)The Yew-Tree-”Never surrender!” (Many self poisoned themselves with Yew-tree sap,..rather than surrender to ROME
      3)”Heritage”, Estates or possessions
      4)The god “Tiwaz”-Open to interruption-you can probably guess mine-Little ‘g’
      5) The Elk,….or Arms stretched toward god, little ‘g’

      There was also mention of the Sun, Son?


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    B & B…
    “That story has been circling the net since April / May, and I find it really far-fetched.”
    Do you have access to an actual folding Ten-Swiss-Franc Note?
    So If it is actually there on the banknotes,
    then exactly WHAT is “That story circling the Net”??
    Huh?
    Apply some of your Germanic Mind there, doll. Really.
    Go see that website!
    (The Best went West!)…to New Jerusalem, North America.


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi Elenin,
      yes, I have some Swiss notes, but some of the new ones. They changed the design back in 1981.

      “The story circling the net” is the lots of videos trying to sell the same story by different means…
      If you think something even more bizarre than usual will happen on Sept 27, then be it – no need to feel offended! I just asked for your opinion.

      “The Best went West”????? No idea what you mean, but that’s ok.

      *peace


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    • StillJill StillJill

      Amen to that Jack!!!
      What an exciting time in ‘HIS-STORY’,…to be accounted worthy to participate! :-)

      Indeed,…The best did go west. Many are waking up though Jack,…to who they REALLY are,…good or bad!


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Peace and Huggy wuggies. Life is a Cabaret, old chum…
    If you would actually focus your Eyeballs, Leibchen, upon
    this fascinating design, printed on the banknote,
    and comprehend what they are expressing, it might
    trigger an explosion of your own personal understanding.
    You might seek some astronomy advice, if you aren’t
    geeky in that way.
    The picture indicates a long-ellipse planet, coming in to
    the sun for its close-pass, accelerating-phase of its orbit.
    The Timing is indicated by Relative Planetary Positions.
    The Planet is shown to have moons or planets of its own!
    Immanuel Velikovsky wrote about this and was Blacklisted
    in 1950 for daring to step on Academic Toes.
    Don’t you want to be a Man of Knowledge, B&B?
    It requires becoming a stalker, a hunter, and a warrior.


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi Elenin,
      “Leibchen?” does not make sense, really.
      From what I could find out (with my “Germanic mind”, whatever that’s supposed to be), is that the person shown on the note is mathematician (sp?) Leonhard Euler.
      His original drawing from 1760 looks different than the one shown on the bank note. The note was designed by a famous Swiss designer couple. They changed and arranged the original drawing a bit.

      Find below the link to the page with Euler’s original drawing. It’s a page from the book “Briefe an eine Prinzessin” from 1773. And as you’re so übersmart, I bet you can read the old German text explaining the picture.
      http://fuffologia.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/disegno_eulero.jpg


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      • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

        I only wish I was as Hot as you, dear Lady.
        Schmart is so Sexy!
        So, You are actually a High-Level Mata Hari yourself.
        How slick! How Neoprene and Vaseline!


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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          How neoprene and vasoline!…….oh gosh…I have to use that elsewhere…totally funny.


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          • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

            Bless You, Heart…
            Man, If I had experienced the Quality of Education
            those Krauts reputedly enjoy, I would’ve been RICH!
            Euler!
            B&B…whatta you think/know about Schiller?
            I admit I’m an American Peasant.
            Thank You Jesus for the Gift of Reading and
            Discernment.


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        • Arizonan Arizonan

          That’s hysterical!


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        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          You’re welcome, Elenin. The original drawing shows a comet, not a “planet”, as you stated.
          Also,
          “The Planet is shown to have moons or planets of its own!”, as stated by you, is not part of the original.
          You will now probably say that the designer who did the design for this old series of notes had some secret knowledge, but I don’t see how a thinking brain could follow those assumptions. So, let’s leave it at that.


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      • StillJill StillJill

        B&B My Mother’s maiden name was Weckerle,…pronounced as a “V” Veckerke. I meant nothing by my ‘Germanic runes’ comment-other than a statement of the facts as I know them,..having studied the runes a bit.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Yes “americancommntr”–That’s the sucky realization we may all come to. I’ve said before that I visited Penn. shortly after TMI,…to see my parents. My nose exploded with eruptions and sores,…since then, both my Mum and Dad have died from third bouts of cancer. They were not even 70. Nuclear fallout killed them, to be sure. Really frosts my cookie,…especially Dad, who just went in 2009. If I’d known then,……he’d be here quite possibly!
    He was my biggest fan!


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    • When I hear the NRC (Nuclear Rubber stamp Commission) make statements like “nobody died as a result of TMI” it makes me angry.

      I understand StillJill. :(


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      • many moons

        Sorry to hear about your folks StillJill. I agree, I thought the same thing about cancer being a radiation disease. I wonder if a study on cancer deaths and the proximity to nuclear plants would ever be allowed? Just collect data on cancer deaths from hospitals, where the people lived how close is the nearest nuclear plant, and observe the findings. I have relatives in Penn. and 3 out of the 4 have had cancer, they are near TMI.


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      • StillJill StillJill

        Thank you also “ChasAha”-Yup,…”Chicago-Style Politics” killed them,…IMO. No offense to Chicago,…I lived in Hoffman Estates once! :-)


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Yes, ammcmtr, I had that horrible realization a few years ago when I read No Immediate Danger by Rosalie Bertell. One of the best, most accessible reads out there. I asked her once, did she think it really true that now one out of three of us were going to get cancer because of the radioactive pollutants around the globe? She replied that she thought they were lying also about the cancer statistics, and that in reality it is now more like one in two of us will experience some form of cancer before we die. The full nuclear reality hits very hard at first. Keep asking your higher power for help. Become a warrior!


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  • Countdown to the big quake continues:165 quakes on the map of USGS for latest earthquakes in the past 7 days on 24 Sept 2011:read at 170003: cumulative effect of modern civilization via dams together with cosmic forces.See discusskosi@googlegroups.com at the post by ramaswami kumar.


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      • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

        Kumar, I read your stuff!
        Are there any Yogis, Swamis or other Nobles around
        to have any Timeless Wisdom or Insight to Share on these Dams?
        Would any but the Commercial Interests have influence
        over policy-makers? We all seem to be Lemming-Like in
        adherence to comfort-seeking crowd.
        Did you ever hear of Edward Abbey’s “The Monkey Wrench Gang”?
        It’s a fun American self-criticism fantasy, though many
        Radical activists point to it as an inspiration.


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        • There are people who are agitating against nuclear power plants and I am posting to them. They have succeeded in moving the policy makers to do their bidding of explaining their actions to citizens before taking steps to build nukes. The overarching relentlessly escalating effects of modern civilization in causing man-made disasters can no longer be disregarded by them because the concerned citizens are putting insurmountable roadblocks because of awareness building efforts of like minded citizens. They must listen or be thrown into oblivion. Fasts unto death are having a significant effect to change policies. The violent reactions of nature are beginning to be seen as those predicted by Mahatma Gandhi, who led the first freedom movement in India. They must heed dams and Fukushima and their extinction level events. They must recognize man-made natural disasters in the midst of cosmic forces. Watch out!


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          • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

            I met Saraswati-ji once.
            I have to admit I’m a meat-eater.
            Sometimes I wonder about Duty, if it is
            only a Satanic confusion for me to eat meat.
            A Buddhist teacher on TV, Ole Nydahl,
            said words to the effect that Compassion
            may dictate a lot of people to be Put out of
            their Misery, to Alleviate their suffering by
            hastening their life’s ending.
            Do you think Gandhi, et al, envisions
            endless population growth-to the exclusion
            of any ecosystem? Do we seek a “sustainable”
            manageable population, tailored for endless
            successful Humanity?
            Am I one of the Evil Illuminati for saying we
            need to limit population, and therefore, Dams?
            I’m a spoiled-rotten American.
            I hope the Fasting People will have Peace
            and not Pain.


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    • At 190004 on 24 Sep 2011 the number of quakes on the map has shrunk to 162.the countdown to the big one continues.The Antarctic ice is again showing hotspots! The hotspots for 22 to 24 Sep as of 190004 utc are intense in North America, more intense than before in south America and Africa south of the equator as well as in Indonesia,Eastern China,East Russia, Australia,New Zealand and Japan. Also in Russia, Turkey and Italy and Greece. At vital spots in Japan it is hot:

      Latitude Longitude Date Time Brightness Confidence Scan Track Satellite Version Bright.T31 FRP
       40.537   141.498     2011-09-23     02:00     313.1    47     2.0   1.4     T     5.0     292.9     30.9 
       40.529   141.513     2011-09-23     02:00     311.2    29     2.0   1.4     T     5.0     293.0     22.1 
       40.532   141.5     2011-09-23     03:40     334.3    75     1.0   1.0     A     5.0     295.5     35.7 
       40.535   141.5     2011-09-24     01:05     312.1    36     1.7   1.3     T     5.0     293.1     18.9 
       35.934   140.679     2011-09-24     01:05     317.9    52     1.6   1.2     T     5.0     300.6     27.3 
      The countdown to the big quake continues in the Pacific Ring of Fire…


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  • Tuni Tuni

    Check out the last post on the page for some up to date photos. of Fuki.

    http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=480200&page=708


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Thank You, everybody! Kumar!
    I’m wondering if it is only Vanity for me to think of
    putting away another sack of beans, hiding some food
    from the coming Raiders?
    :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGGSX9AHfos&feature=related

    I Love IT!
    He mentions Arthur C. Clarke’s writings,
    particularly “Childhood’s End”!
    Whatta Genius he was (…for a White Boy! Tee Hee!!!).
    How interesting, particularly if you made it through Odyssey:2061.
    How very in line with the Ancient Texts, these Cosmic Spirits
    floating about the Galaxies, experimenting with Life and
    Creation.
    A Giant Glowing Heart of Joy to You, Mr. Kumar.
    Shal-OMMMMMMMMM! Mani Padme HOOM!


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    • richard mancer

      Nothing will happen. I can 100% guarantee that no alien or god or time traveller or any other mythical being or astronomical body will save us or approach us.

      These false prophecies of quakes and doom and miracles simply create a distraction from real and tangible issues.

      Stop wasting your time and forum space with this dribble.

      I look forward to October when nothing has happened and someone has to eat their words.


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  • kirinseti

    Which Cesium was it?


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  • lam335 lam335

    This is what Arnie Gundersen predicted would happen in one of his videos. In that same video, he also predicted that the Japanese would burn the contaminated rice, so more cesium will continue to spread across Japan as well as across the Pacific.


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  • radegan

    That’s so we can all have contaminated rice, Japan wanted to share. We could make rice flakes for breakfast out of it, diluting it with uncontaminated rice and adding lots of sugar and mouse droppings and insect parts. We could call it – Cesi-Yummies, the hot new breakfast cereal from Japan. Gluten free!


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  • kirinseti

    Problem 27

    27 September 2002

    Euler published the remarkable quadratic formula:

    n² + n + 41

    It turns out that the formula will produce 40 primes for the consecutive values n = 0 to 39. However, when n = 40, 402 + 40 + 41 = 40(40 + 1) + 41 is divisible by 41, and certainly when n = 41, 41² + 41 + 41 is clearly divisible by 41.

    Using computers, the incredible formula n² 79n + 1601 was discovered, which produces 80 primes for the consecutive values n = 0 to 79. The product of the coefficients, 79 and 1601, is 126479.

    Considering quadratics of the form:

    n² + an + b, where |a| 1000 and |b| 1000

    where |n| is the modulus/absolute value of n
    e.g. |11| = 11 and |4| = 4

    Find the product of the coefficients, a and b, for the quadratic expression that produces the maximum number of primes for consecutive values of n, starting with n = 0.


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  • kirinseti

    Problem 27

    27 September 2002

    Euler published the remarkable quadratic formula:

    n² + n + 41

    It turns out that the formula will produce 40 primes for the consecutive values n = 0 to 39. However, when n = 40, 402 + 40 + 41 = 40(40 + 1) + 41 is divisible by 41, and certainly when n = 41, 41² + 41 + 41 is clearly divisible by 41.

    Using computers, the incredible formula n² 79n + 1601 was discovered, which produces 80 primes for the consecutive values n = 0 to 79. The product of the coefficients, 79 and 1601, is 126479.

    from what I’m understanding, Euler’s Problem 27 always shows up on Sept 27th. Go figure!


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  • kirinseti

    Problem 27

    27 September 2002

    Euler published the remarkable quadratic formula:

    n² + n + 41

    It turns out that the formula will produce 40 primes for the consecutive values n = 0 to 39. However, when n = 40, 402 + 40 + 41 = 40(40 + 1) + 41 is divisible by 41, and certainly when n = 41, 41² + 41 + 41 is clearly divisible by 41.

    from what I’m understanding, Euler’s Problem 27 always shows up on Sept 27th. Go figure!


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  • kirinseti

    Problem 27
    27 September 2002
    Euler published the remarkable quadratic formula:
    n² + n + 41

    from what I’m understanding, Euler’s Problem 27 always shows up on Sept 27th. Go figure!


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  • kirinseti

    From what I’m understanding Euler’s Problem 27 always shows up on the 27th of Sept. Go figure!


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Three Cubed!
    Here comes the Tetrahedral Spacecraft!
    :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGGSX9AHfos&feature=related
    It’s Easy as…..Pi?
    ….
    But The Builders Rejected the CHIEF CORNERSTONE
    Which is Christ!
    (anybody know any Builders out there? They are WRONG!)
    …..
    “Cold-Hearted Orb that Rules the Night,
    Removes the Colors from our Sight:
    …Red is Gray, and Yellow, White…
    But We decide which is Right,
    and Which is an Illusion…”
    -The Moody Blues


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  • Arizonan Arizonan

    OMG! New footage of explosions?? Did I miss something? I thought I had watched every video possible since March on the Fukushima explosions, but I sure as hell do not rememeber seeing a long prolonged fire and a nuclear mushroom cloud AT NIGHT. Have you guys seen this before? Did I just miss it somehow? (That’s possible too.) It’s on the “featured Video” link at the Tokyo blog, Fukushima Diary today:

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/news-all-the-sensors-non-functional/

    Please tell me you all have seen this initial footage before! If anyone hasn’t seen it, they should. This is one of the scariest things I have ever seen on Fukushima, and I am a fairly calm daily enenews reader!! Calm despite being a daily reader! But this is unbelievably scary footage.


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    • Darth

      It’s an oil fire. Seen it before.


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      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Thanks Darth. It sure seems like a mushroom cloud being videoed by a Japanese citizen. Its part of a video on “Fukushima” – but thanks for the clarification. I believe you, I just hadn’t watched the oil fire video before because it was of an oil fire, not Fukushima. This is still being announced as Fukushima, being taken by amateur video people located in Japan, who apparently said it is a video of the Fukushima they saw. Do oil fires always make such perfect mushroom clouds?


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    • Sickputer

      The Cosmo oil fire in Tokyo Bay burned for 10 days after 311.

      In July the Japanese government admitted that “Oh by the way…there was a slight amount of depleted uranium we were storing at the Chisso Petrochemical building next to the Cosmo plant and it all burned up too.”

      How much depleted uranium? 1683 pounds.

      Lovely little liars eh? They never warned the public during the ten days of the massive Tokyo Bay fire despite subsequent rain showers that brought uranium poison falling down on Tokyo residents.

      Anybody want to place bets on how many of the bureaucrats in power who secretly knew the dangers arranged for their families to flee the capital city? I am betting a lot used that information just like the Kodak executives warned by the U.S. governemnt years ago when they got secret information about radioactive fallout from atomic bomb testing. A real Kodak moment in Tokyo!

      Virtually everyone in Japan knows the Chisso company as the company responsible for the infamous mercury poisoning incident now known as Minamata disease:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease

      Japan’s lovely Crown Princess Masako is the granddaughter of Yutaka Egashira who was the chairman of Chisso during the nasty years of litigation with mercury victims at Minamata. Chisso was notorious for the use of the Japanese mafia to threaten people during the sorry episode, allegedly having the yakuza severely beat up W. Eugene Smith for his photo essay showing the gruesome…


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      • Sickputer

        …the gruesome deformities of the victims.

        Any wonder why I said months ago don’t drink the water in Tokyo? There are more dangers in the air and soil and water in Tokyo besides just the fumes from Fukushima Daiichi.


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  • Nukeholio

    I always thought the President was radioactive…


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Let’s bring in John Wayne, Red Adair, and the Hellfighters!
    Piece a Cake!


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Good evening folks,

    Happy Sunday to all.

    If you see this reply on a few stories, it is because people should know this.

    Update from the Durango, CO area.:

    So today we did some checks of the radiation in the garden and the river and a few of the usual spots that get checked daily in the house. Knowing what is in our own immediate environments should be our highest priority.

    The worst was to be found in the garden with a reading of 958 in a ten minute count. All counts are ten minutes. That makes it 95.8 CPM and this is not good news. May very well be the end of the farmers market for us and trying to share our great organic food. This was the main reason we did not sell anything at all this year. Just do not have the heart to pass on anything that seems to have ANY radiation in it or around it. Kinda sad because it was our only way to make a little extra here. One can only wonder about what is being grown on the west coast and how they can dare to call it organic.

    What I am also putting together are pictures of the anomalous flowers and veggies that grew this year. Never seen this before. There are a lot of goofy, strange, and weird things growing that are NOT normal and that is really scary.

    We got hit with the rains early in spring just after the Japan Nuklear Catastrophe and now it is really showing up. Remember when obama hightailed it to So. America?

    Of course there is a lot of historic radiation from a few places here in the four corners area and…


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    cont.

    Of course there is a lot of historic radiation from a few places here in the four corners area and we are at a high altitude (around 6,512ft), but this is a bit too much to be called background.

    We also do take into consideration that it has been reported on Radnet that the normal background radiation in Taos, NM is 64 CPM and that is just south and east of this area some hundreds of miles. Even if it is, it is still to high to be considered normal. Taos was heavily under the fallout of those fires at Los Alamos which dumped a lot of smoke up here too but not nearly as much as they got down there.

    Radnet states, “Normal background for that station is 64 CPM, high to start with because of the 7,500 foot altitude in Taos, and also because the Geiger Counter in use is built around the same ultra-sensitive pancake GM tube used in the Inspector line of detectors.”

    http://www.radiationnetwork.com/Message.htm

    Wow huh! All this radiation from all over and not to mention the Radon and uranium mining done in this area too.

    But all that was here already has increased so much so that it caused all the strange deformities this year. That sign alone is tell-tale proof that something new came down on us here. No doubt it came from Japan and it is all over the US growing more and more in it’s accumulations every day as the world sleeps in the state of oblivion.

    What to do?

    Dog gone sad because there really is no place to go that is more hospitable for us…


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    cont.

    Dog gone sad because there really is no place to go that is more hospitable for us ugly americans anymore and when there is a major disruption of the power grid, or there are more earth changes, what is in the future is horrendous to think about. All those zombie movies are now in the realm of possibility after seeing the defects in the garden this year and knowing that unless every reactor on earth is shut down, all there is to look forward to is a nuklear nightmare winter followed by more and more contaminations from the many reactors that will just be abandoned when all hell breaks loose. This stuff ONLY adds up and it isn’t going away anytime soon.

    What to do!!!!

    Well, first we pray for those people and children in Japan because they are taking it in a lot larger doses, but as it was reported about here, the slow doses at higher rates are really bad.

    Yeah…some future. Why will that movie “On the Beach” keep coming up as this gets worse and worse?

    Here is the link to the page I have been posting these picture at. See the latest from today (9-24-11) and comment and offer your thoughts here please.

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/hotgreens9511.jpg/


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Good morning James,
      mmmmh, those veggies look good! You’re quite a dedicated gardener, I think! So your readings are currently 50% higher than so-called background radiation, right? Did you have rain recently?


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      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Hello B&B,

        Thanks for your interest and comment.

        Yes, my whole world revolves around the garden in the growing season and this is my fifth year at this location. We had great crops in these last years and now this year, even though it looks good, according to this instrument, it is not perfectly free of something that is causing the readings we are getting here. There is no way to tell what it is exactly, but we do know it is there, something radioactive.

        And yes, we had rain a week ago, but it has been nice and warm again since. We will probably have a freeze by the middle of Oct. Never fails, barring some more weirdness from Universe. Comet Elenin is supposed to align with Earth and Sun again on the 27th. We may see something around that date because the obama will be at the underground city in Denver along with many NASA big shots and many others then. If anyone lives in Denver, please watch out for incoming elitists headed to the Denver airport. This just weeks mountain guardian exercise may have been a quickly planned practice for what may soon come?

        As I said, we got hit pretty good in the spring with rains and I tried to cover up a lot of the ground I was going to plant on, but to no avail. I knew the worst part after the explosion of the reactor in Japan was going to come down all over this country. Pretty much called it right within a day according to the rises on the EPA site then before they changed everything with new dis-info. That is why the obama…


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      • James Tekton James Tekton

        cont.

        That is why the obama and his crew left town to go to south america. The initial hit was bad and is still going unreported.

        The way I see…we ALL do not have much longer in this world. LIVE WELL WHILE YOU CAN. It has pretty much turned into Sodom and Gomorrah with the added twist of zombie-land to come and people just do not care about anything but themselves. If you believe in a Higher Power, do really think there is anything worth saving here? This civilization has gone the way of so many others. We the soul group just can not learn from history. Aeons of it!

        So, as a consequence this kind of thing goes on one day at a time, but soon the tides of Karma or the Law of Cause and Effect will catch up with us for ignorantly allowing our own destruction and that of the biology on this planet. There is NO escape from this truth engraved in Stone. What we as a civilization causes, will definitely Effect us ALL!

        http://www.abundance-and-happiness.com/cause-and-effect.html

        We continue to pray daily for our suffering world…


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  • Sickputer

    I am so sorry for your ruined hard work James and to have such a depressing state of affairs.

    It is so sad for the rice farmers in Japan, the ranchers, and everyone who works with the land to produce food for the rest of us.

    To have the environment tainted on such a massive scale and done with an invisible toxic agent while the perpetrators deny responsibility and deny it is dangerous. Our bodies and minds are not fooled.

    Future Shock has arrived in 2011 and it is quickly killing the human race.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      As well perpetuated and planned bro. Thanks for your real perspective. It is sad…and true. There is a part of me that was shot in the heart killing the inspiration to really do the usual gun-ho gardening I do. I just lost it after the initial plantings and then what really did it was these readings that I wish someone would authoritatively say, Oh, it’s OK. After years of eating these foods, you will be fine. Yeah…right!

      A thought comes to me. Can we all pitch in and compile the info we have and narrow it down to show us all where might be the least contaminated areas of this country that are left to safely live in? Those places that we can self-sustain at? We have a lot of people adding in their readings here so maybe we can track on a map or something all these locations and the readings to get an idea of which part of the country, if any, is the best place to be presently.

      Just a thot.


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    • midwestern midwestern

      continuing article: from one of the bottomless pits of reactor 1, 2, or 3 (gets choice) and while digging 24/7 to retrieve lost corium. Does get a plate of food from all-you-can-eat Fukushima buffet 3 times a day.


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    • midwestern midwestern

      “Back in May 2011, there were reports that Plutonium was found as far as 50 km in rice fields. That news quickly disappeared. In August 19th, NY Times reported that contaminated rice was found In Ibaraki ken, near Tokyo. So, how does the authority attacked the problem ? By mixing contaminated and “safe” rice to fall within the legal limit. That did not stop various parents associations to march down the House of Representatives in Tokyo a week later to angrily protest against such action. Because some of that rice is destined to be served at schools for your kids lunch.”
      Not safe.


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      • nelson311

        And this is the truth ! Because those were my friends bursting into the house of representatives. I could not go on that day! To prevent from having a bunch of angry mothers raising hell, they instead scheduled on the same day a private meeting ! THey got scared! LOL

        They better … cause I would rather fight John Rambo than facing those wonderful but angry as hell women … Run for your life, you retards! Everyone says Japanese women are submissive and blablabla … Make no mistake, they are afraid of no one and rule this country !


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  • dosdos dosdos

    We only have two months before the premature births start taking place for those conceived in post-meltdown Japan. Down’s Syndrome is about to become a dominant part of the Japanese psyche.

    I’ve seen Down’s Syndrome first-hand, the first born of a neighbor who had been on the construction crew of one of the older US nuclear plants. It is not pretty, and it will change the issues in Japan dramatically when the still birth rate soars and those born with radiation induced defects begin flooding the maternity wards.

    The government in Japan had better be ready for this. Noda’s concentrating on the economy at the expense of the population’s health will insure him a very short term in office, far shorter than Kan’s.

    And just wondering, when is the press going to get over the stupid habit of calling Fukushima the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl. It’s been worse than Chernobyl since May, and even TEPCO admitted it, albeit without much fanfare. It’s the worst nuclear disaster in human history, period.


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