Published: May 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm ET
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Toukyou high levels of radioactive material in sludge incinerator ash, Nippon TV News24, May 13, 2011:
Google Translation
Comes from the ash and sludge from sewage treatment plants in Tokyo, NTV revealed in an interview that he had been found that high concentrations of radioactive material per kilogram of 170,000 becquerels.
According to Tokyo’s Koto Ward sewage treatment plant “Eastern sludge” from the sludge ash was collected on March 25, was found radioactive material in Becquerel per kilogram of 170,000. Ash from two different facilities were collected in the same period, had been detected in more than 000 becquerels per one kg. These ash, are recycled building materials such as cement and now.
The State, becoming the 12th Fukushima sludge than 100,000 becquerels per kg, such as one that is burned in the prefecture has issued guidelines and ash storage containers should be , Fukushima Prefecture, except there is no basis for today.
Translation by EX-SKF
Nippon Television’s investigation has revealed that the radioactive materials in very high concentration, 170,000 becquerels per kilogram, had been found in the sewage slag from a sewage treatment facility in Tokyo. [...]
The samples taken at two additional facilities also showed radiation over 100,000 becquerels per kilogram. The slag has already been recycled into cement and other construction materials.
The national government issued a guidance on May 12 as to how to dispose the radioactive sludge and slag in Fukushima Prefecture, which is to burn the sludge and store the burned sludge (slag) in containers. However, there is no such standard for radioactive sewage treatment outside Fukushima Prefecture.
EX-SKF has more on the findings here.
Published: May 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm ET
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Is it 170.000 or 170,000 Bq/kg?
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Just a typo in the title on this page.
The other postings and the original all say 170,000
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The scarier question(s) is how did the sludge get so radioactive.
Was it from fallout or was it from being concentrated due to passing through people and then condensed at the sewage plant.
Either way it seems to be clear that Tokyo and a large percentage of Japan are totally screwed.
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I have never heard of “ash and sludge from sewage treatment plants” being burnt up and used in building materials.
The term sewage should only be applied to organic waste. If they are using the burnt ash in “building materials” then the waste matter in question should come from a non-organic source.
Something smells funny here. We’ll have to wait for the next scoop.
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As a retired plumber as well as chemistry teacher, I can tell you that this makes sense. Sludge is the stuff in a septic tank or a treatment plant that the bacteria cannot digest. It’s the stuff you have to pay the big bucks for the honey dipper truck to suck out and remove. It is basically inorganic minerals. Calcining it and adding it to masonry materials would not be absurd.
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The mineral concentration over time. Deposits.
Never considered such a complexity of living upon such a small land mass.
Thank you.
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Please note that there is positively no danger to the public. None.
Although it is recommended that all pets and animals be kept indoors.
Everyone needs to settle down and eat some fruit or something. Here, have a nice banana.
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AHha! Hello old friend.
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this is pure and arbitrary nonsense.
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Nice disclaimer. Do you make it a habit of getting on these forums and harassing people you think are below you? Eat a bannana go to jail.
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Lighten up. Just a bit of sarcasm to point to the fact that the article contains very little to assure the public as to the status of their well being and safety. The problem is the point of focus, but where is their solution.
Have a nice day
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Lighten up…? You didn’t answer my question. Do you feel good about superiour talking down to people and bullying anon posters. I get the feeling you have Three if not more monikers on this forum and each one is an outlet for your arrogant bullying.
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*Do you feel superior talking down…
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good BOTH expressed their feelings, for me the sarcasm was brilliant. sad but hell TEPCO and GE are to blame.
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i agree. very well stated zombieplanet.
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again. what arbitrary and foolish nonsense.
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if anyone is wondering, it looks like i’m being spoofed here by a dreary, spoon-fed, one-dimensional antagonistic elf. yeah somebody obviously misses the sheer beauty and circumlocution of the phrase “eat a banana, go to jail.”
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I WISH I WERE A DEINOCOCCUS RADIODURANS
Well, I was going to let my pet cockroach out to play:
http://www.tmia.com/node/1007
As a result of all this testing, it gradually emerged that the cockroach is, at least in terms of nuclear survivability, a wimp. The two Drs. Wharton had found in 1957 that it took only 1,000 rads to interfere with cockroach fertility. In 1963, Drs. Ross and Cochran found that a dose as low as 6.400 rads would kill 93% of immature German cockroaches – making cockroaches only six to fifteen times tougher than we frail humans. Sure, cockroaches survive radiation better than we do – but they curl up and die at doses than don’t even bother other insects.
So how did cockroaches get this reputation? Well, if you want to have a mean radiation-resistant insectoid villain, a cockroach fits the bill better than a fruit fly. Cockroaches would die close to Ground Zero of a smallish 15 kiloton Hiroshima-class nuke – and could certainly not survive the larger megaton-range hydrogen bombs in today’s nuclear stockpiles.
At the moment, the real King of Radiation is a foul-smellingreddish bacterium called Deinococcus radiodurans, or Conan the Bacterium by its admiring researchers. It was discovered growing happily in canned meat that had gone bad, even though the meat had been sprayed with radiation to preserve it – a nice example of evolution. This bacterium frolics happily in background levels of 1,500,000 rads of radiation – and seems to be able to survive twice as much again, when frozen. So cockroaches are roughly as vulnerable to nuclear attack as the rest of us – but I don’t think that knowing that, makes the cockroach more lovable…
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She stays inside for now. Deinococcus radiodurans is allowed out to play.
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if they build things out of poop, its pretty much obvious those reactors are pieces of crap. did everybody watch that vid about the nuclear plant warning? it pretty much spells it all out.
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That’s a good one. A bit of humor in a dark hour can lighten the burden.
Best to all of us.
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Too funny!
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Hmm, anyone still trust the NRC?
WASHINGTON (April 15, 2011) – In the wake of the Fukushima disaster, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) set out to inspect the U.S. fleet of nuclear reactors to ensure their safety and report publicly on its findings. Yet today, Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) revealed that significant limits may be imposed on the inspections, and that inspectors also have been directed to keep many of the most serious vulnerabilities secret.
http://www.tmia.com/node/1007
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Protect the Banksters at all costs.
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It’s about time the Banksters went bust, before the rest of the planet does.
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If you shut down that plant, the loss of revenue will cause the bank to repossess the facility. A large “For Sale” sign will not cover the monthly loan installment. The crux of the biscuit.
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Nope but I would trust them more if they could help Japan and therefore the world deliver the safe nuclear products as promised. They have Haven’t they lost meaningful authority by not being able to react to this crisis effectively?
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doesnt this mean that they’re burning radiactive material? and #4 is smoking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg&feature=player_embedded
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does anybody know wut happens when this fuel eats its way thru the earth’s crust?
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Check the BRAWM berkeley forum for some great discussions on this. From what I understand it will hit the “water table” and stop there. We need to be concerned about the effects this will have on the ocean and biology more than we do rainfall here.
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I really hope there is no water table and it just sinks.
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either way we are screwed. japan will become a desolate and deserted radioactive wasteland. with marginal resources.
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I think I know why there is so much radioactivity in sewage sludge !!
It’s coming from the fround water. Its infultrating into the sewer, not uncommon during earthquakes… they must start monitoring the ground water, and the water bubbling up all over from the liquifaction..
All that leaking qwater from flushing the reactors is probably Islandwide …
Think about it ! Hundreds of millions of tons of water flushed into the leaky reactors, and they only found a relatively small amount in the basements and tunnels, ETC.
where did it all go ?
Not into the ocean, some did, but water flows down first then out , so it must have made it into all the city’s plumbing …
What a mess !!!
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I, Mean the” Ground water ” This thing needs a spell check, and a modify post button !! , LOL!!
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Well if everybody knows that a cloud of radiation is heading to Cali ( and Vancouver ) what will that do to the real estate market? Could we organize a Sushi dinner for the poor Banksters?
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Yet another cloud? Who is reporting that? I thought all of the sites that were doing forecasts stopped releasing them. Please post a link if you have one.
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Spooky atricle, and its did not say where or whats the surce. But the groundwater contaminating is highly likely.
And thia is just another cerrypiccing of results that dont give a broader picture.
But if groundwater is contaminated it means that water other plases are under threat of contaminating.
The spread of this crises is predictable, and still after 2 mo. Japan and TEPCO is lying and downplays this event.
When will the real numbers arrive.
If I where living in Tokyo I would be worried.
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What Cindy says makes sense. Also fallout in dust and rain must end up in the sewer system so I surmise that Tokyo residents have been exposed to much more then what officials admit. But shutting down Tokyo is not economically viable. In 5 years when cancer deaths skyrocket Tokyo mayor Japanese heads of states will have retired and disappeared. “Oh we didn’t know at the time” they will say. As in North America, politicians get away with too much
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Had a vigorous discussion about the source of this radiation. Friend said it was contaminated groundwater rising due to liquifaction and intrusion into sewer lines. But that didn’t seem likely as far away as Koriyama (700 feet higher, 25 miles, and a low mountain range away). Seems even less likely in Tokyo.
Only thing I can figure is that radioactive contaminants must have been ejected a LOT higher than admitted, come down with rain, and gotten into the sewer systems that way (assuming Japan has combined stormwater/sewage systems). Rain is a terrific way to concentrate fallout.
Also, sewage itself prolly acts like an ion-exchanger, with a lot of negative charge to bind metals. From what I can tell, the Japanese actually incinerate their sludge to mineral ash, then use the ash in cement. The concentration factor would be really extraordinarily high through this process. But this would be a great way to monitor the fallout across wide areas, and should be applied everwhere.
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Tokyo’s most rainy days in any given year are June 8 to June 20
Hoping and praying for the best
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In all the desperate chaos, it is probably too much to think that
somebody might want to check into the sludge-to-ash-to-cement
process, the people who’ve been working there, and downwind.
maybe medical wastes and other industrial wastes have been dumped
illegally in with the sewage, just like in China and the USA.
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The Mainichi Daily News reported:
“On May 12, the government announced that highly radioactive sludge will be tentatively kept at sewage plants in the prefecture, while sludge with relatively low-level radiation could be recycled into cement and other material.”
“Sludge with radioactivity levels of under 1,000 becquerels per kilogram can be recycled into cement and other material if the levels can be reduced to under 100 becquerels through mixture with other materials and dilution.”
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110513p2a00m0na019000c.html
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nyc – this really raises a questions … – need details – thats a lot in a sanitary sewer ?? Are storm sewers and sanitary combined or separate ?? Is there large influx from earthquake cracked sewer lines ?? What is the primary influx source ? Did fallout fall in the settlement ponds ?? lots of unknowns in this makes one wonder – if that all occurred due to down the drain from residences and business (tepcos laundry) – then one could expect extreme closed quarter contamination. :-/
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The less people know, the less sense the questions sometimes make.
Storm drains are not called sewers (it is a separate system, at least in civilized countries) Storm drains probably got more fallout washed from streets etc. Those often lead to the ocean, lakes or streams. Don’t dump your used motor oil or anything but water into the storm drains.
Because of limited treatment capacity and high processing costs, dumping storm water into sewer systems is generally prohibited.
Sewage treatment plant processes include digesting (bacterial breakdown) and separating out the solids. Since sludge is very concentrated form of what came in, the isotope levels per unit volume, isotope levels become much higher than what was in the water and food in peoples homes. Peoples’ showers sinks dishwashers and toilets are the main pathways of entry into the system. Small amounts that settled onto the ponds are made insignificant by the very large volume of material that comes in from the sewer system from a very large number of people and homes.
It sounds like the Japanese sewage systems are well run for them to even monitor radiation along with levels of various chemicals. For a period TWO YEARS a water district near San Diego California served some of its business district customers treated waste water instead of fresh due to connecting the wrong pipes. Fresh water apparently went to grass on the golf course. People experienced various problems including E-coli infection.
http://www.10news.com/news/14322577/detail.html
What’s in fresh water is something to watch. Many people living in drier regions would be surprised to learn that reclaimed waste water is commonly pumped back in the ground to keep levels up for wells. Many things are NOT removed from the waste water. Much that people would not expect is in our “fresh” water.
http://ag.arizona.edu/azwater/awr/july00/feature1.htm
http://www.naturalnews.com/022809.html
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All good questions. They don’t say how it got to the plants, they just say “Highly radioactive sludge found at sewage plants in Fukushima Prefecture will be temporarily kept at those plants”.
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Hot Shit!
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“Cores on the floor, and the slags really bad”
There’s a hit in there somewhere I suppose.
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I just can`t believe it hasn’t melted through and gone BOOM yet. Maybe it has already melted through? Given it has been free for at least a month, either we are super lucky or perhaps the theory is incorrect? I thought it was hours once it broke through the containment, right?
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I’ve wondered about that, too.
Considering that we’re just speculating about what happens when a melted core hits ground water, could that have been what caused the explosions in reactors 1 – 3 early in the disaster? Is the huge amount of radioactive water that has been found at the site because there are three molten cores in the ground?
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Exactly, it might explain a lot, like why the ocean and Tokyo city and sewage etc readings keep on “shocking Japanese Government Authorities“ may be because they haven’t accounted for a full meltdown and its underground effects. I wonder if this is the actual case, then are we already past a point of greatest danger?
I still think someone should take some of the new Icelandic volcanic ash and see if it is a magic solution with the lava cores. I have a feeling it would turn to glass and form a coating somehow or smother and reduce the effects of the airborne emissions if piled on top of the lava clumps. What do we have to lose by trying?
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@Anthony, I think your Idea has Merit, way to think outside the Box!
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Hi Anthony:
You are the second post tonight I think that has mentioned a possibility that we are past the point of greatest danger. I am hanging on to that thought. For just a moment at least.
I confess I have been wondering about the Icelandic Volcano too. As I recall from the last time it erupted, the ash was spread globally. So what exactly happens when the ash and the radioactivity hit in the jet stream? Does the ash offer any neutralization of the radiation?
I knew it may seem a silly question, but as my Grandmother used to say, dreams are cheap, so dream on.
Cassie
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Lady Gaga, is that really you? Controversy wherever you go ….
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Get your money down on a date and time pick! For The Big Blow Lotto.
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Talk about a sure bet, you`d just have to wager on everyday from now to win.
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i once had a strange idea that the japs had some spiritual connection with the earth.
that they where more sensitive to the balance of commerce with protection of the environment:)
nearly all the beach front nuclear power stations are built on reclaimed land.in fact japan is one massive reclamation project.
that is why a lot of soil liquefaction happened at the time of the earthquake.
they use shit and rubbish from sewage works for building materials it is also used in foundations for reclaiming land from the sea.
fukishima is built next to a volanic caldera.
on rock from blown up mountains and old refuse and shit.
they have planning applications to reclaim more land from the sea this time using radioactive shit.
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110519p2a00m0na004000c.html
david rockefeller and his friends at general electric are on record as believers in population control.
ge being a major depleted uranium missile supplier as used in libya.
if you have seen the fantastic bbc adam curtis film it states clearly that the designers of the ge fukishima reactors had no clue what to do if cooling was stopped and cores melted.
the compact submarine reactors were just about containable but the scaling up of the massive fukishima reactors became problematic.
the ge fellows probably knew it was insane to build these doomsday reactors on reclaimed volcanic land in earthquake and tsunami zones.all they then needed was a bunch of mr beans running the show and kaboom.population reduction.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/03/a_is_for_atom.html
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and for the conspiracy types.
http://50yearsoffreedom.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/our-visit-to-rockefellers-georgia-guidestones/
anybody been to denver international airport?
is this the freakiest masonic airport ever with a very unhidden message.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-denver-international-airport/
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