Rain near Toronto measures 20,000 CPM per square meter (VIDEO)

Published: August 16th, 2011 at 7:44 am ET
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Radioactivity in rain 20 000cpm / sq. meter Toronto Canada, electrosyl, August 14, 2011:

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120 comments to Rain near Toronto measures 20,000 CPM per square meter (VIDEO)

  • Bobby1

    The most disturbing thing was when he blocked the radiation with his hand. That means it is alpha or beta radiation. The radiation is not caused by cesium, which is more of a gamma emitter.

    It’s likely tellurium or strontium, both of which are very dangerous. It would have to be an insane amount of plutonium to generate that reading.

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    • arclight arclight

      does this come from the burning of contaminated materials?…hope they took a sample of the rain and forwarded it to arnie and co! but heavier beta emmitters landing as far as the usa….not good! how are things in hawaii? where is the jet stream currently moving?

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    • lam335 lam335

      I was puzzled by the fact that he said it decayed away very quickly (he seemed to say 30 or 40 minutes). Don’t most of the things coming from FUK have longer half-lives than that (they must, to come across from Japan). Also, doesn’t Strontium have a half-life of 29 years (I don’t know what tellurium has).

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      • arclight arclight

        “There are 30 known isotopes of tellurium with atomic masses that range from 108 to 137. Naturally found tellurium consists of eight isotopes (listed in the table to the right); three of them are observed to be radioactive. 128Te has the longest known half-life, 2.2×1024 years, among all radioactive isotopes.

        Precautions
        Tellurium and tellurium compounds should be considered to be mildly toxic and need to be handled with care.

        Acute poisoning is rare. Tellurium is not reported to be carcinogenic.

        Humans exposed to as little as 0.01 mg/m3 or less in air develop “tellurium breath”, which has a garlic-like odour. The garlic odour that is associated with human intake of tellurium compounds is caused from the tellurium being metabolized by the body. When the body metabolizes tellurium in any oxidation state, the tellurium gets converted into dimethyl telluride. Dimethyl telluride is volatile and produces the garlic-like smell.”

        http://schools-wikipedia.org/wp/t/Tellurium.htm

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        • lam335 lam335

          Thanks for the info. I am still not seeing why the man in Canada would find that it is hotter immediately after the rain, but then “decays away” within about 30 minutes, unless it is not actually “decaying away,” but simply evaporating back into the air or getting absorbed into the soil (or otherwise dispersing away from the spot where the rain had initially landed). The long-lived things from FUK presumably wouldn’t suddenly decay away within thirty minutes of falling as rain (or am I not understanding something?) This makes me wonder whether at least some of what he is finding are more short-lived isotopes from more local sources (maybe on top of the longer-live FUK stuff). We in North America are probably surrounded by powers plants, etc., that are silently spewing stuff without our knowing it.

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          • arclight arclight

            i see what your trying to get at here…if it evaporates it should leave most of the particles behind, however it seems to me where the water went he found hot spots and the ground saturation must have taken the isotopes into the earth/mud…maybe these beta/alpha particles are water soluable!

            “When dissolved in water, radionuclides are colorless, odorless, and tasteless, and typically cannot be detected by our senses, unlike many other contaminants that may cause an undesirable color, odor, or taste. Natural radioactivity in drinking water and its effect on human health recently have become a major environmental concern. Recent studies have shown that activities of some radionuclides in the ground water of southeastern Pennsylvania are elevated enough to pose potential health problems.”
            http://pa.water.usgs.gov/reports/fs012-00.html

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          • idou

            Let’s say he is observing Iodine 134 with a half life of 53 minutes. Once the rain deposits the isotopes, their readings should decrease by half every 53 minutes. There are two possibilities if this is from Fukushima. One is that enormous amounts of this isotope were released so that, even though a large amount of half life cycles took place, there was still a significant amount remaining by the time it reached Canada. Two, these are daughter isotopes of a parent isotope with a longer half life. Anyway, one thing is for sure, we are running the most significant experiment ever of the consequences of radioactive fallout.

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          • jonjon

            HOw about Radon? I read it decays quickly and is present in the rain. Geiger readings can go as high as 1 to 2microSievert/hour from what I heard or read. Wouldn’t it explain these readings? Or maybe it is really unusual and a consequence of other radioisotope fallouts. I would like to know too.

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          • lam335 lam335

            Thanks for all the explanations.

            Arclight: thanks also for the link re: southeastern PA. That is where my family lives.

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      • Bobby1

        You can download the latest isotope readings from Takasaki here:

        http://www.cpdnp.jp/pdf/110816Takasaki_report_Aug12.pdf

        Look at the right side of the table, Te-129 and Te-129m. These are isotopes of tellurium, and Fuku has been emitting these isotopes from the beginning, and still is.

        By the way, look at the entry in the pdf for 3/16-3/17. The isotope ratios for that day demonstrate that a nuclear explosion occurred, especially the large amount of Tc-99m.

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        • arclight arclight

          The resulting technetium-99 then decays to stable ruthenium-99 with a half-life of 211,000 years. It emits soft beta particles (electrons) in this process, but no gamma rays (photons). All of these characteristics ensure that the technetium-99 produced from technetium-99m produces very little extra radiation burden on the body. (arc: does that include ingestion?)

          Due to its short half-life, technetium-99m for nuclear medicine purposes is usually extracted from technetium-99m generators which contain molybdenum-99 (Mo-99, half-life 2.75 days), which is the usual parent nuclide for this isotope. The majority of Mo-99 produced for Tc-99m medical use comes from fission of HEU (highly enriched uranium) from only five reactors around the world: NRU, Canada; BR2, Belgium; SAFARI-1, South Africa; HFR (Petten), the Netherlands; and the OSIRIS reactor in Saclay, France.[1][2] Production from LEU (low-enriched uranium) is possible, and is produced at the new OPAL reactor, Australia, as well as other sites. Activation of Mo-98 is another, currently smaller, route of production.[3]

          Demand for medical use of Mo-99 to make Tc-99m began to overtake a dwindling supply, in the late 2000s.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technetium-99m

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          • Bobby1

            “Molybdenum-99 is produced commercially by intense neutron-bombardment of a highly purified uranium-235 target, followed rapidly by extraction.[3] It is used as a parent radioisotope in technetium-99m generators to produce the even shorter-lived daughter isotope technetium-99m, which is used in many medical procedures.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_molybdenum

            Intense neutron bombardment of U-235 results from a nuclear detonation.

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          • arclight arclight

            @bobby1
            interesting! but they must be able to create it within the normal processes of the reactor, as they use the daughter product for medical use? or are you trying to say that this was from reactor three criticality explosion? or some other detonation?
            peace

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        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          Bobby1, interesting table. I think you can see quite clearly the bigger cesium releases every once a week (those must be the massive ventings we saw on the cam), becoming more rare and with lower readings over time.

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  • arclight arclight

    had to respond here… some nice photos of group meeting at bart hq here!

    “Paid areas of BART stations are reserved for ticketed passengers who are boarding, exiting or waiting for BART cars and trains, or for authorized BART personnel. No person shall conduct or participate in assemblies or demonstrations or engage in other expressive activities in the paid areas of BART stations, including BART cars and trains and BART station platforms.”

    or to look at it another way!

    “Josef Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda, possessed a diabolical flair for orchestrating mass fervor and ecstasy. With sober calculation, he designed the ritual rallies of the Nazis–the repeated oaths, the arm raising, the songs.”
    “Josef Goebbels has worn down the nerves of the enemy: he played the register of the propaganda organ. so that they soon thought they were hearing the shrieks of the last trumpet.” Alfred Frauenfeld, Nazi Deputy Propaganda Minister.”

    and this is what im really trying to describe here

    “every form of physical stimulation and manipulation was used to mold the Nazi party, and later all of Germany into total compliance with Nazi policy.”

    http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394901

    oh and for any new readers out there, this link is a must..
    Canadian newspaper tries to get soil tested for radiation — Private companies, gov’t agencies, and universities all refused to get involved
    June 21st, 2011 at 02:49 PM

    http://enenews.com/canadian-newspaper-soil-tested-radiation-private-companies-govt-agencies-universities-all-refused-involved

    cant think why these two links look nice together……………………?

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  • New York breaks city’s rainfall record with nearly eight inches soaking city

    New York broke an all-time record for a one-day rainfall Sunday as up to 8 inches of water soaked the city, snarling trains and flooding roadways.
    By 9 p.m., 7.7 inches of rain had fallen at Kennedy Airport.
    It was the most recorded there in a single day since the …
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/08/14/2011-08-14_rain_snarls_traffic_floods_subways_in_new_york_city.html

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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    I almost missed previous post. Go Young Turks!
    Thank Enenews! Your the BEST!

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  • Group wants radiation tests done in Canada — Health Canada calls 300 times background levels of iodine-131 “minute” : Canadian Network for Nulclear Monitoring

    We are initiating a collaborative radiation awareness, monitoring and research initiative across Canada. We intend to network with interested organizations and individuals concerned with public health, the environment, renewable energies and sustainable agriculture and food production. …

    http://changeagents2011.wordpress.com/home/

    Since April, we have contacted local and national media, environmental and health organizations, responsible government agencies and individuals with concerns over the lack of transparent and comprehensive radionuclide monitoring and reporting in Canada. On August 4, the Georgia Straight ran an article on “Fukushima Fallout”, reporting, among other concerns, that air radiation measurements in several Canadian cities exceeded legislated maximum concentrations after the Fukushima disaster; that Canadian radionuclide monitoring and reporting is lacking transparency and consistency; and that there are many concerned health professionals, including those interviewed in the article . There is a lot that must and can be done to change the status quo. And You can make a difference….

    http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=8926&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Biggest misinformation story of the day: #Fukushima children cleared of cancer. Of all the lies this one tops the cake. #Criminals
    8 minutes ago
    That “cleared” story is all over Tweets. LIARS!!

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  • Jebus Jebus

    As the nuclear industry says, No one has died directly from the known 99 plus major nuclear accidents in history.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents

    And that does not even include the 2053 nuclear explosions from testing since 1945

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

    But I say that jumping out of an airplane without a parachute does not kill you directly either. It is the accumulation of the lack of altitude that does.

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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Great post!! Can I post it at HP? That should AWAKEN the Cheerleaders. :)

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    • radegan

      Lack of a parachute does not affect happy people.

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    • Steven Steven

      “the accumulation of the lack of altitude”

      hehe you have to love some of the things people do with the English language. Technically you would eventually accumulate the same ‘lack of altitude’ even with the parachute deployed, so we should factor time into the equation… how about ‘the rapid accumulation of the lack of altitude’.

      Another good one in common use in aviation describes the oblivious state of flight crew just prior to an avoidable crash… ‘fat, dumb and happy’. Extending the mataphor it seems most of the passengers on board our flight fit this description also.

      Anyone know where they stow the parachutes?

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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      Nobody dies ‘directly’ from a nuclear explosion unless they are onsite. The fellow who died in the Fukushima builing, and was found months later, is the only ‘direct’ casualty from this horror.
      The consequent illnesses from nuclear exposure take years to show, although I do not think I will have to wait that long. But these monsters will blame it on something other than nuclear power.

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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    “IT’S BACK!” (a4p) He hates that I post every morning THE NEW NEWS! Love it!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/12/nuclear-regulatory-commission_n_923098.html#comments

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  • Darth

    32 Year Old Woman’s Sudden Death From Leukemia In Fukushima Is Not Being Reported

    …this person has been working in 20km area of Fukushima to save the starving animals left.

    It was a sudden death,which is very shocking for the surroundings.

    Additionally,an NPO “Save Fukushima children in Toyama” ‘s founder died all of a sudden as well.

    This NPO was founded by a couple in Toyama,they came and back between Fukushima and Toyama for countless times.

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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Jesus Christ! And so it begins…
      TY Darth. I’ll post to HP

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    • arclight arclight

      posted by Mochizuki on August 14th, 2011
      The person,who was trying to save animals in 20 km died of acute leukemia.
      This news is not covered by any media so now we are trying to figure out more details.

      Seemingly,this person has been working in 20km area of Fukushima to save the starving animals left.
      It was a sudden death,which is very shocking for the surroundings.

      Additionally,an NPO “Save Fukushima children in Toyama” ‘s founder died all of a sudden as well.

      This NPO was founded by a couple in Toyama,they came and back between Fukushima and Toyama for countless times.

      While husband was in Fukushima,he got a phone call to tell his wife died suddenly.

      She was still only 32 years old.

      This is not covered by any media either,so now we are trying to figure out more details.

      Cesium 134 and 137 may cause acute cardiac infarct.

      Strontium 90 may cause leukemia.

      Last week,ex professional soccer player Matsuda died of cardiac infarct too.

      He was still 34 years old.

      He fell off during the training game. He was sent to the hospital but he was already cardio-respiratory arrest.His last word was “wait..” The temperature was 24.5C.

      Today,I received two other news too.
      One was that a 4 years old cat died of acute leukemia in Tokyo.
      The other one was that a dog died of acute thyroid disorder.

      I dare not to assert it has something to do with radiation,but something might have begun.

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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      They are also posting that many young people appear to be dying of strokes and cardiac arrest.

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  • Folks who are taking rad readings on their own can post their results here https://pachube.com/

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  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    Toronto is near the Pickering nuclear plant, which spilled radioactive water into Lake Ontario on March 12. We get our drinking water from the lake.

    This is not going to be good.

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  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    I was indoors, with a friend, during the storm (which I barely noticed). I suppose it was just as well.

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  • americancommntr

    If anyone in Japan is reading this site, here is something that is needed:
    More reports of people with radiation sickness.
    Reporting of this, I think, really discredits the nuclear industry, the governments, the major news media. Actual video footage of people’s symptoms, for the sake of the cause of warning the world about nuclear plants, is as devastating to the liars as it gets.

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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    I live 30 miles from the 4 reactor nuke plant Cattenom in France (which is situated right at the german border, so the westerly winds will carry the nasties over to us).
    When it went into service in 1988, concerned citizens founded a club and set up measuring devices to take their own readings 24/7 ever since. The instruments are set up on private properties near the plant. The club was able several times over the years to prove evidence of radioactive releases the French had “forgotten” to mention.
    These are the sheets of the readings the club shows on its website:
    http://www.maus-trier.de/Seiten/m_2011.htm#Jahresubersicht

    Maybe that’s an inspiration for you?

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  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    B and B, how healthy are you and your friends?

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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi milk and cheese, I’m totally healthy (as far as I know, that is). But I’m a vegetarian since age 13 (I’m 36 now) and never started smoking. I’ve been living in this area for 8 years now, and honestly I’m hesitating to look out for an apartment to buy because of that evil nuke around the corner. So physically I’m fit, though the knowledge of what might happen in the middle of the night if…. is quite a burden mentally. Some french folks I know from work are TOTALLY clueless and are being intentionally misinformed by the nuke comp. in monthly newsletters.
      In fact, 3 workers have already been irradiated there this year alone.

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  • StillJill StillJill

    I gave my first long-coat chihuahua I bred to a good friend 10 years ago. (I still have Mama). He, Jo Jo died Saturday of thyroid cancer. He lives up here in Butte County Calif. where still borns are becoming the norm. Two of my adult friends have had their thyroids removed in the past 120 days! Never knew one could live without one,…but BIG Pharmas got that one all figured out! Too bad it kills your immune system eventually-Oh, “SORRY”

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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    HEADS UP!!! Excessive levels of radioactive cesium found 100 km from plant / 186.000 bq/kg:

    “Excessive levels of radioactive cesium were found in sludge in a ditch at a district court branch in Fukushima Prefecture, about 100 kilometers west of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the court said Tuesday.
    The isotope in the sludge, sampled from a ditch at the Fukushima District Court’s Aizuwakamatsu branch, measured about 186,000 becquerels per kilogram, the court said, adding it plans to remove the sludge after consulting with local governments.
    Under government standards, sludge can be used in a landfill as long as the radioactive cesium contained in it measures 8,000 becquerels per kilogram or lower.”

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/08/109260.html

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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Radioactive sludge piling up

    “Contaminated sludge from sewage facilities now totals more than 54,400 tons. 75 percent of it contains less than 8,000 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, the government-set limit for disposal by burial.

    Despite this, some 27,700 tons of sludge — 51 percent of the total — remains in storage at water treatment plants.
    Local governments say some burial projects have been rejected by residents near proposed sites.
    In addition, 7 storage facilities in 4 prefectures have had to set up “no entry zones” where radiation levels have gotten too high.”
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/16_21.html

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  • Is it about 120 CPM when you start to worry?

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    • anne anne

      “the “Alert Level” for the National Radiation Map is 100 CPM, so if you see any Monitoring Stations with CPM value above 100, further indicated by an Alert symbol over those stations, it probably means that some radioactive source above and beyond background radiation is responsible.”
      http://radiationnetwork.com/

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  • fuckyoushima

    absolute fucking pandemonium.

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  • irradiated californian

    people are surprised…why exactly? you all talked about this being what was going to happen, and now you see a vid of it happening and act as if you weren’t expecting this. this should be expected, a lot more of it should be expected.

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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi IR, it’s still a diferent thing whether to expect something or to see it actually confirmed….
      We all “expected” the next meltdown to happen after Chernobyl. When it happened on 3/11, we were still surpised, weren’t we?

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      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Couldn’t have stated it better myself BB. SEEING IT makes it a whole new ballgame. :(

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      • I was not that surprised. See http://justiceinorout.blogspot.com/
        I was glued to the hotspot web fire mapper with the hotspots surging suddenly- they were due to the hydrogenerators in synchronism surging the water levels in the dams in keeping with the electricity demand peaking.
        Just see http://predictingquakes.blogspot.com/
        for my update for March 11 2011
        and how I e mailed genpatsu shinsai genpatsu shinsai – after Kashiwasaki Kariwa I was warning the world about the coming catastrophe because of the damned surges cumulative effects of meeting water needs with dams.
        The dam forces are comparable to the tectonic forces! It was the geologic time scale events happening instantaneously every sec of every year! But it happens to be my reading of the real time data which the effect of the sun etc cannot explain- frequent mAN made natural disaster by the cumulative effects of modern civilisation’s consumptive greedy profiteering life style. Its so new and so against vested interest science that none of the msm sci jourals would accept… its like the specialist self interested circle that is neglecting/disregarding the interpretation of the data on the ground in favour of a decrepit theory put forward by ICRP and IAEA to keep up the nuke industry! See the witchcraft theory of the vested interest science groupist cult narration in ECRR 2003 pp 13 ff authored by Chris Busby et al. The fault dear friends lies not in our stars and planets but in the cumulative effects of modern civilisation’s dams,nukesfed by demands! A whole new ball game! Thank heavens blogosphere is there!

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        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          Dear Ramaswami,
          could you then please ring the alarm bell here next time??
          It would be highly appreciated, because I WAS SURPRISED.

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        • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

          Dear Ram: The first article above is brilliant in one primary respect to my eyes in that it is quite true that “specialization” is an ultimate cast system, along with the destruction of high-context cultural norms, such as extended family and village or community mindedness. You are definitely on to a core point of view for the revolutionaries out here. It is important that people have the courage to be GENERALISTS, while also cultivating whatever specialized skills they may have. We all MUST now be generalists to the best of our abilities. Revolutionaries are a) less prone to brainwashing, b) are able to empower others, c) maintain an alter-ego or OUTSIDER mindset in all circumstances, at all times and with all individuals. This outsider (comparison of differences is the mother of all understanding) perspective can be cultivated to the destruction of mass brainwashing, conditioning (institutional, cultural or despotically intentional or not) by working hard to understand EVERYTHING…be a generalist!!! This is a long abandoned, but to our peril, backbone of revolution against the greedy. We CAN do it.

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  • larry-andrew-nils

    ufc trainer Sean Tomkins dies at age 37.

    in canada

    on the east coast.

    of a heart attack.

    just like many Japanese workers from fukushima, and also many healthy who worked in chernobyl.

    20,000 cpm at one location as a hot spot does not rule out even hotter spots.

    i believe sean tomkins should be tested for radioactive substances… but also that he rest in peace and not be disturbed…. catch 22.

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    • larry-andrew-nils

      and if sean tomkins’s body is full of radiation, and if people found this out with another autopsy…

      it would go viral.

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    • irradiated californian

      so…every death now is going to be related to fukushima? come on guys, be realistic. you have no idea of the guy’s health history, yet you jump to the conclusion that it is related. that’s not practical, nor is it logical.

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  • bfly

    http://youtu.be/E6Gko_QzzDM…. Off topic..just wanted to share a piece of the no nukes concert….It felt good to be around so many like minded people…..To give a standing ovation to the lady from green Japan was the highlight of my summer…..

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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Whoopie, I LOVE the first two comments given to that. Hilarious!!

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    • arclight arclight

      whats up with atoms for peace then….sounds like one of his strategies is to
      “run home to mummy” , so to speak!

      it would be probaly be better if you did not inform this 11 year old what adults and other children are discussing! it would be tantamount to bullying!

      wonder what he made of chernobyl heart then?? no! best he doesnt know!…we dont want to give baby nightmares do we?
      peace

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  • bfly

    http://youtu.be/4yETlCP8SiE…that one didnt work… thanks again whoopie for the heads up on this event.

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  • bleep_hits_blades

    Here is Leuren Moret’s latest interview with Alfred Webre (made available a couple days ago) -

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ExopoliticsTV#p/u/0/nb49kkkkYps

    Leuren Moret: Japan, U.S., Canadian governments complicit in covering up Fukushima radiation

    Written version of this information available here:

    http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/leuren-moret-japan-u-s-canadian-governments-complicit-radiation-cover-up

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  • bfly

    http://youtu.be/s5Ykhy8ttCg…Whoopie if this does not work…you can find it on you tube…shoreline m.u.s.e.

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  • arclight arclight

    @taco see your point!
    “Polonium, when absorbed orally, tends to distribute widely through the tissues of the body, approximating whole body radiation exposure. Polonium is excreted fairly quickly, its effective half-life in the body is about 30 days (mostly due to excretion, but also due to radioactive decay). This results in a maximum total exposure equal to about 43 times the first day exposure. Most of this is accumulated in the first 30 days, but significant amounts occur of the next several weeks following.

    Because of its short half-life and rapid decay, a small quantity of polonium-210 is intensely active. Its “specific activity” is 4490 curies/g (166 TBq/g). Thus 4 millicuries (a minimal lethal dose for 80 kg person) is 0.89 micrograms, an almost invisible speck of matter.

    In the case of absorbing a minimal lethal dose no initial illness would result. The decay of the polonium would deliver an accumulating exposure of 16 cGy a day initially. No visible effect would be expected for about a week, with mild symptoms developing over the next week. Serious illness would not be expected for a month or more. This delay is partly due to the time is takes to accumulate dangerous internal exposures, and partly due to the time delay of 1-2 weeks after dangerous exposure before serious illness becomes evident. The exposure rises eventually to 700 cGy after a few months. The actual toxic effect of this exposure would be lower than what the table below indicates, because radiation received over a period of time is somewhat less harmful than a dose received all at once. Nonetheless death would be expected from the poisoning within two or three months.

    This scenario contrasts strikingly with the reported symptoms of Litvinenko, who fell ill the day he was poisoned, was seriously ill on day 11 later, in critical condition on day 20, and was dead on day 23. The fact that he became ill so quickly indicates he was poisoned with many times the lethal dose of Po-210.

    In the hour or two that elapses during gastrointestinal uptake of the poison, the GI system (which is about 3% of body mass) receives disproportionate radiation exposure, amounting to perhaps a few days worth of whole body exposure. If Litvinenko were poisoned with, say, 40 millicuries (ten lethal doses) then severe exposure on the order of 400 cGy would occur to the GI system. Even polonium that was not absorbed, but passed through the GI tract and was excreted would expose the radiation-sensitive GI lining. This would account for his falling ill apparently within hours of exposure. If poisoned with such a large amount, he would receive whole-body daily exposures of 160 cGy. The resulting gastrointestinal syndrome, which is due to the destruction of the GI lining with exposures of about 700 cGy, would account for the severe illness that led to his death in scarcely more than three weeks. By the time of his death his total exposure might have reached a few thousand cGy, levels that would injur his cardiovascular system directly and might be related to Litvinenko’s heart attack shortly before his death.”
    http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/News/PoloniumPoison.html

    i also read that women might have a bigger heart attack response than men!
    more thought required here! scratches head, again! :)

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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Pretty explosive piece in a Canadian Newspaper
    about Jim Stone:
    Fukushima’s nuclear catastrophe: Earthquake theory debunked
    http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/intrnational/2011/08/15/584.html

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  • While the thread does get off topic it does remain informative. Thanks to all posters for informative and entertaining read!

    Back to original article. High levels of radiation in the Toronto area does not mean it came from fukushima. Pickering and Darlington are two reactors within an hours drive of Toronto. Pickering is effectively a suburb of T.O. Thats just on the Canadian side of the lake. Off the top of my head I think the great lakes has twenty or so nuclear power plants on its shores.

    Pickering has been dumping radio-active water in Lake Ontario for years. I read about it thirty years ago. Its an old facility. I toured it as a field trip in grade school forty odd years ago. The whole area from Pickering to Hamilton is the second biggest industrial area in North America. Contains the busiest highway in North America (401). People think Canada is some sort of untouched wilderness. Not so in Southern Ontario.
    My guess is that high readings in video are a combination of Fuki and local sources.

    Peace.

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  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    Yes, the guy with the Geiger counter did not use a control. There was a ‘small’ leak of radioactive water into the lake the day after Fukushima. It did not make the headline news.
    Most of the Canadian reactors are in Ontario for some reason.

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    • They routinely dispose of low level radio-active water into lake. Been doing that for decades. Is not new news. But I don’t think that would cause radio-active rain water. I wouldn’t eat a fish from Lake Ontario…. Reactors in Ontario because it is highly industrialized. The market is in Ontario.

      The collusion between governments and nuclear goes way back. You think if Pickering makes a radio-active fart Toronto will be evacuated? Or even told? Goes for eastern parts of USA that report high radiation. Maybe from Fukushima but lots of old reactors operating and they don’t want to disrupt their precious economy. If a few more people die of cancer well fine. Can’t be proven caused by nuclear industry, right?

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  • Sickputer

    We know things have actually worsened in the past 9 weeks…

    SP

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    June 3, 2011 at 2:40 am ·

    The Northern Hemisphere jet stream is rushing toxic deadly particles to Hawaii, Canada, the continental Americas, and re-circling constantly the entire globe. Rainwater and cow milk in Hawaii is contaminated. US agencies says that is OK because the radiation particles in rainwater are diluted in public water supplies. Hello! About 18,000 households with 50,000 people in Hawaii rely on rainwater as their sole source of drinking water.

    The EPA has also stopped monitoring for radiation. Today marks the one month anniversary of their stop loss program. Does anyone smell government coverup? My advice…use an umbrella in the rain. Stay inside (a lot for now) and replace air filters. Don’t rely on mass media to help you stay informed. The reactors for Units 1, 2, and 6 were supplied by General Electric, those for Units 3 and 5 by Toshiba, and Unit 4 by Hitachi. All six reactors were designed by General Electric. As mentioned by many General Electric media-related holdings include television networks NBC and Telemundo, Universal Pictures, Focus Features, 26 television stations in the United States and cable networks MSNBC, Bravo and the Sci Fi Channel.

    GE also owns 80 percent of NBC Universal. GE boasts they made umpteen billion dollars last year, but paid zero dollars in American taxes. I want to hire their tax guys. Suffice it to say, I don’t think you can keep your job at GE if you say discouraging words about nuclear energy. Ditto for the thousands of scientists who rely on government grants to stay afloat.

    Digressing a bit…the strange car crash death of Oklahoma nuclear industry worker Karen Silkwood in 1974 (great 1983 movie with Meryl Streep) led to the industry losing the wrongful death $10 million civil lawsuit at the Supreme Court level and paying out over $1 million to her family before a retrial.

    So what do I think is going to happen in the coming weeks?

    You will know it is really bad in Japan when America evacuates the US troops stationed in southern Japan. If the radioactive releases are not stopped by late September I think we will see the US troops re-deployed. If it does worsen to that point… there won’t be a lot of positive spin the governments of Japan and America can muster for the new evacuation measures.

    Slowly and inexorably the tragic events of March 11, 2011 (aka 311) and the aftermath may become the top story of the 21st century…or perhaps of the entire era of humankind. The mass media will be drawn back into the story by forces beyond their control.

    SP

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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      Great post, Sickputer, except that I do not believe that mass media will report on it at all. The majority of people will literally never know what hit them. Perhaps that is the best way after all.

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  • I did some math on the level of radiation. 20,000 CPM = 200μSv

    That is 200 μSv per min. The particle decays to 0 radioactivity after about 40 min (according to the person who took the video). That is around 1525 μSv from the particle during its life, which is equal to a spinal x-ray.

    Now you have to take into account it looks like the particle is an alpha emitter.

    ALPHA PARTICLE RADIATION (Wikipedia)
    When alpha particle emitting isotopes are ingested, they are far more dangerous than their half-life or decay rate would suggest, due to the high relative biological effectiveness of alpha radiation to cause biological damage, after alpha-emitting radioisotopes enter living cells. Ingested alpha emitter radioisotopes (such as transuranics or actinides) are an average of about 20 times more dangerous, and in some experiments up to 1000 times more dangerous, than an equivalent activity of beta emitting or gamma emitting radioisotopes.

    So on the avaerage that 1525μSv will cause about 20X the damage as normal radiation (30,480μSv), which according to the chart is equal to smoking a pack a day for a year.

    What if it was as high as 1000X as dangerous? That would be (1,525,000 μSv), close to severe radiation poisoning.

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    • If the radiation decays so fast what is it? Iodine has half life of 8 days? I guess there are others I am not aware of. But if that is true I guess we are looking at a local source not Fuki. I think after Fuki ordinary people started to measure radiation and when they find high levels they blame it on Fuki but could be a local source.
      Haven’t lived in Ontario for over ten years didn’t know about 9 mile point. Where on lake is it?

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  • Anthony Anthony

    Ontario wind power bringing down property values
    CBC – Mon, 3 Oct, 2011
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    A proposed wind farm in Saint-Cyprien-de-Napierville is angering some residents.

    The Canadian Press – Sun, 25 Sep, 2011
    Ontario’s rapid expansion in wind power projects has provoked a backlash from rural residents living near industrial wind turbines who say their property values are plummeting and they are unable to sell their homes, a CBC News investigation has found.
    The government and the wind energy industry have long maintained turbines have no adverse effects on property values, health or the environment.
    The CBC has documented scores of families who’ve discovered their property values are not only going downward, but also some who are unable to sell and have even abandoned their homes because of concerns nearby turbines are affecting their health.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ontario-wind-power-bringing-down-property-values-195652724.html

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