Published: May 23rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm ET
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California Department of Public Health Radiation Monitoring Report May 16, 2011:
[San Luis Obispo area] CalPoly Dairy Farm 5/2/2011 detection of:
Iodine-131 @ 4.14 pCi/liter
Cesium-134 @ 4.55 pCi/liter
Cesium-137 @ 5.11 pCi/liter
California Department of Public Health Radiation Monitoring Report April 1, 2011:
[San Luis Obispo area] CalPoly Dairy Farm 3/28/11 detection of:
Iodine-131 @ 3.33 pCi/liter
h/t Anonymous
Published: May 23rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm ET
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“Found” for First Time since March? Bull!
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But the report states that the rad is 900 times less than the “safe” limits.
If this were to get out, the dairy business would be crushed, within days.
Waiting for this report to get squashed, before long, or further buried.
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“But the report states that the rad is 900 times less than the “safe” limits.”
According to PRE Fukushima EPA safety limits or POST Fukushima EPA safety limits?
http://www.naturalnews.com/031963_radiation_exposure.html
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This one is above the EPA MCL which of course the Health department fails to mention. The FDA limit is much much higher. At the EPA limit, something like 1 in a million get an added health problem, and that’s with continued use.
The FDA apparently doesn’t care unless 1 in 5000 will get ill from one purchase. That may work for toxic batch of cough syrup, but for something like milk, that some people consume as much of as water, the FDA isn’t effectively protecting us.
Oh, and even when the FDA limits ARE exceeded, they have to worry about economic harm (and I don’t mean to the victim). I guess that explains why when people are dying of something, the recall is only voluntary.
The test is a per liter concentration, but it is not clear what consumption amount the calculated weekly dose is based on. 1 liter is just over 4 cups. With cheaper in pairs pricing, some get 2 gallons a week. (7.57 times as much)
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Dairy farmers in Hawaii are reporting levels between 400-2500 times the legal limit.
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Don’t forget about this:
The House Appropriations subcommittee on Energy will soon be voting on billions of taxpayer dollars going for loan-guarantees for NEW nuclear power construction.
Here’s how to voice your objection.
Remember, there’s strength in numbers!
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5502/t/0/blastContent.jsp?email_blast_KEY=1163952
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I have posted this before but please tell the power that be we need EPA to reinstate testing. Thank you for your time concerning this matter.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/774/petition-to-reinstate-ongoing-testing-for-radiation-from-fukushima/
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Latest date on this Cali PDF tested was March 28. That’s about the same time the total media blackout started. I believe the reality would scare the shit out of all of us and would most probably trigger unparalleled civil unrest, hence, sssshhhhhh! Its been said on this forum many times, “Nothing to see here. Move along.”
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Though I am predisposed to exactly this line of thinking, I know that US Berkley has continued to test & publish results.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/UCBAirSampling
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They have. Cesium made a re-appearance in milk from a former tapering down. I-131 had declined. Fukushima is chronic low dose internal exposure via multiple pathways in nature.
It’s notable that California rain has been slight this season – so deposits are reduced and fluctuating. I expected this. It will be of some duration, clearly. For consumer safety, the dissipation clock only starts when deposits cease. We’re soon entering the dubious dairy flip window, whereupon aged dairy cheeses (60-90 days) may be higher in radionuclides than fresh milk cheese sources. A good time to forgo them, or seek alternatives.
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We are in northern Utah where our kids are and they have had rain up here unlike anything ever seen. Everyone is talking about the strange and almost constant rain for the last two months. The monitoring hasn’t been working for Salt Lake so there is no news on radiation levels and one can only imagine the damage. Most people I know have been struggling with headaches, sore throats, irritating coughs, etc.
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You guys got ALL the rain this year, like us last year. We
continued to marvel at the Irish Emerald countryside last
year, but this year is fearful fire-fuels whipped by dry winds.
We are hopeful for a Good Monsoon in NM, but that usually doesn’t come until July.
I hope you-all are talking about The Holy Spirit, and the fact
that our worries of this World are as nothing compared to
our real Spiritual reality.
It’s hard to sell to our survival-tough women. They are more
Earthbound, less likely give up the mortal coil without fight.
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Nevadan:
dutchsinse needs you. u can even go and thumbs up my comment while you are there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8FjOecbY0&feature=channel_video_title
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That’s because they have been HAARPING the bujabeez out of you there and also HAARPING Idaho. Boise being the center of that HAARP ring. The center of the Utah HAARP ring was The Great Salt Lake. So, basically, Northern Utah. They have been holding that storm on you guys. Don’t ask me why. I can’t see any HAARP action there right this minute. I’ll look again later.
It sure would be good to see some radiation monitoring there and in Idaho too.
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Geez. I’m sorry about your increased rain outs
. Hopefully the dispersion was reduced somehow… The atypical (not virus related) flu-like symptom reports are everywhere – here also, especially in high risk groups (children, elderly, immuno-supressed). I see many articles that include asthma, gastroenteritis and pneumonia in the Northern Hemisphere too. In UK and Mexico there were articles about perplexed physicians remarking on the increase in atypical pneumonia deaths in some towns.
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Are you kidding? I live in Northern CA, and we are still getting pouring rain. We have gotten more rain this year than I have seen since 1955-1956. We got 2 inches last weekend, and have more coming on Wednesday.
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Crescent City and Eureka are the highest in the state for 2011, but SF is at or under 1 inch per month since March – where UC Berkeley tests local food chain contamination, so no, I’m not kidding.
http://countrystudies.us/united-states/weather/California/
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Berkly site is decent, but is it truthful?
The ratio of bullshit to Truth is growing rapidily, so you just have to guess, I suppose.
If most of us were in this situation and did not want to cause panic and economic disruption, would you spill the beans and risk your own reputation, to boot?
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Poor Daddy, see the first link, not the 2nd.
Again
http://cdph.ca.gov/programs/Documents/CDPH-RHB-RadReport-2011-05-16.pdf
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Question for experts (NOT the screaming meemies);
The end of the May 16 report says:
“Information to date indicates that the duration of exposure should not exceed a few weeks.”
What does this mean? That they expect the exposures to the public to stop in a few weeks or that we should not be exposed to these levels for more than a few weeks? If the latter, I don’t know since we are being told that this could go on for months or years.
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That comment was apparently in an early reported reflecting expectations at the time. I don’t see it in the May 16 report.
Here’s the page with all of them.
http://cdph.ca.gov/programs/Pages/RHB-RadReport.aspx
Here’s the local health department advisory page
http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/PA.htm
It’s not clear whether the May 2 sample was bought on May 2nd, tested on May 2nd, or marked with a May 2nd (use it by then) date. The Berkeley results showed the date on the carton which throws us off a bit. When testing, they have to adjust iodine numbers up to show a result for a purchase date or another one (to account for decay since)
The Cal Poly results don’t make the date issues clear, and tell whether the values were properly adjusted for any aging/decay.
I might try to contact people and follow up. They’d be out to lunch right now though.
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In addition to the past weeks of exposure by multiple pathways… And, using the flawed ICRP model premise that doesn’t apply to chronic low dose internal exposure such as this reliably.
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Interesting. The statement could be interpreted as a warning, as in
“YOUR duration of exposure should not (or else!) exceed a few weeks.
Also, it could be a blase, BULLSHIP statement that the exposure is
expected to dwindle down to nothing, in a few weeks.
Language is Fun.
Language is a Virus.
Money Talks and Awareness Walks.
I’m sorry, but my own sister is an ignernt cigarette-woman. She is
doomed to death by her ignernce. She wants to argue with an actual
informed and educated man, egged on by her fellow ignernt Womyn.
The reports are made by folks wanting to get at least one more
paycheck before the California Debt Crisis reduces us all to Bums,
scrounging for horse turds to eat.
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Can you picture it?
Eating horse turds.
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I just watched “The Pianist” yesterday. Excellent cinema, a little, possibly a lot heavy on propaganda, but very realistic in the starving
guy running to survive as the Russians knock the Nazis out of Warsaw.
He finds a nasty bucket of drain-water or something, where he has to
sweep off the scum on top and drink it anyway.
I like my horseturds Toasted, with a bit of Jam, please
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I saw Penny from the SLO public health department interviewed on the local station when they announced the first (end of March) milk data results showing something. The visibly disturbed look on her face was revealing and priceless. From my reading of it at least, she was clearly more concerned than what she was saying at that moment acknowledged.
She’d also been on tv earlier, when the first March 18 or so data came from a low reading at a Diablo Canyon monitor (that’s only 10 miles away), and at that time I think really had believed the ‘it’ll never amount to anything here’ things they were saying. Of course that was before things from the explosions/fire got here AND we got rain.
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Wow. I wish I could see that interview. So few publically put a face on those old safety/no harm claims.
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I might still have a recording buried somewhere among the many. I also have funny clips of the former reporter from the same (only full power one in the county) tv station turned PG&E Diablo Canyon spokesperson too (several have done that). Maybe one wonder if it is a case of “don’t say anything bad about us and we may give you a higher paying job”???
One company, besides Apple, actually acted on some of my feedback. It helped for this.
I use a little USB HDTV tuner stick called the El Gato Eye-TV Hybrid with a computer. It allows watching and recording broadcast tv. It is one of many products that do the VCR like things, and can pause, rewind etc. during live broadcasts too.
Then I got an idea… if the player already has some video held in memory to make it possible to go backwards with live tv a bit, why not make it able to go back in time a little to start recording AT THAT POINT and not miss the first part of the “oh I really wish I was recording this” clips or programs? They loved my idea an added it the the next update of the program. So now it is easy to save any interesting news clip I am watching even when not already recording. I didn’t get paid or anything but was pleased to see my idea put to use.
http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/products/EyeTV-Hybrid-10/product1.en.html
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Revolving door offices – too cozy with industry are at the root of this. The fox-hen house paradigm.
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dried horseturds make good fuel for stinky campfires.
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Uh, beyond the obvious… They’re still NOT testing for strontium. Grr.
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Yes, I noticed that with the story enenews linked too about Japanese tea. When it was tested it was only tested for iodine. No doubt they could store it for 80 days and then say it was “safe” once the radioactive iodine had decayed out of it. Too bad about the Strontium and other fallout they do not want to test for. A very devious way to sell something dangerous. Very sad for the poor customers who get irradiated by it though. The other thing they did with it was blend it with less radioactive teas, keeping things below rad limits (so they said). A bit like the radioactive bricks they sell. Just dilute it before sale. However this time its food they are selling.
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The same goes for spices. I remember them testing out (Cesium and Strontium) at over 1000bq/kg in Europe from Chernobyl.
(Pg women and babies and children should not have more than 5 bq/kg and adults not more than 20 bq/kg.
Berry jams and jellies and Nutella were very high also. Add eggs and egg noodles to that list.
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Nuts, oils, eggs and berries (with crevices and “styles” aka those little hairs) were on the NIRS advisory list for food contaminates in March along with others like dairy and leafy cruciferous veggies.
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I also remember that the contaminated milk powder was sent to Third World Countries and -in part- re-circulated in the form of holiday chocolates… at least we had access to food test results after Chernobyl. I used to put up flyers with food & radiation test results at my dorm – but the majority of people I encountered couldn’t handle the truth back then and – nothing has changed…same today.
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Power plants do periodic extensive tests.
The records on file publicly available from the NRC will show just about any isotope you can imagine. I don’t think they’re only done once a year and take time to get posted, but all of the slow-decaying stuff will still be around, so down the road (2 years?) we will be able to do a before and after comparison of reports and in extreme detail see what’s increased near the many power plants.
If you really want to see how mind bogglingly (163 pages) much detailed test there data is, look at these measurements from places near Diablo Canyon in 2009
http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1012/ML101260133.pdf
Poke around, there’s all sorts of info the public may see
http://www.nrc.gov/site-help/search.html
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“They’re still NOT testing for strontium. Grr.”
Actually, if you look at the raw data from a site like Berkeley, it is easy to see that the testing method is for everything with each type of source showing up at it’s own energy-level location or group of them allowing us to see the weaker sources alongside (different) stronger ones. You’ll note there are actually many natural sources they don’t list in the tables. If a blip doesn’t stick up above the baseline noise of the equipment, they can run air through the collecting cartridge for a longer time to get more. That means less frequent results, but more sensitivity.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/3876
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Good point. But I realize there’s two issues here, first acquiring all the spectrum data, and second isolating the counts in the subranges associated with the nuclides of interest.
Do you know if the 0.375125 kEv would be the bin size in the milk spectrum you linked to?
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We’d look at 0.546 MeV for strontium 90, but there is a large spike for Ti 208 at/near that value. That’s probably why they’re unable to report data for stronium 90.
I’d need to get a better understanding of how the instrumentation is implemented to know why that multiplier is there for the counts. In any event, it only seems to relate to getting the correct count, not ability to see something.
It’d be fun to study the equipment manuals or their college texts.
It might be insightful to study any comprehensive data generated for milk in the hardest hit areas of Japan, and learn something from the mix of isotopes in it. With much more of everything to measure, the full composition should be far easier to look at.
The mix of what’s released is much different between explosions/fire (some of everything) and whatever comes out in steam (things that are more soluble in water).
I might be a bit hard to study these kinds things with old tech or home-brew gadgets, but it is amazing how much some did even many years ago. I’m sure many of us would like to know what’s happening first hand.
http://www.science-project.com/_members/science-projects/1959/04/1959-04-fs.html
http://www.science-project.com/_members/science-projects/1959/01/1959-01-fs.html
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Right, the bin size is arbitrary, I think it’s basically a tradeoff between resolution and processing overhead. And by presenting the results as “counts per 0.37kEv” they don’t even have to normalize, but yes you would take bin width into account if absolute counts or energies were important – I now think I remember they did that when I worked in a spectroscopy lab long ago.
Good links. There’s a scintillation counter kit you can get for like $15, you supply the multimeter. Every time I learn a bit I’m amazed how deep the subject is and how much more there is to go.
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No, they don’t test for strontium, uranium or plutonium. They have said this.
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Read what they said:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/3375
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Okay I think I got it now.
Radiation detectors such as UCB’s collect emissions over a range of energies (e.g. 100-1500 kEv in the UCB milk spectrum), and record the number of counts at each energy level (actually the spectrum is divided into contiguous segments, or collection “bins”, about 1/3 kEv wide in UCB’s case, with total counts recorded for each).
Gamma emitters such as I-131 and Cs-137 have one or a few well-defined photon energies, and therefore recognizable peaks in a spectral chart:
http://case311e.miraikan.jst.go.jp/home/docs/1105171618
Sr-90, in contrast, is a “pure beta emitter” without telltale gamma peaks; the beta emissions (electrons) may be anywhere in the range 0-546 kEv (see note 3 below), so they can’t easily be picked out of the background noise.
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~scdiroff/lds/QuantumRelativity/SourcesandDetection/SourcesandDetection.htm
To identify Sr-90, other methods are used, often involving its decay product Y-90.
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Thanks for researching that nyc, and for providing good links too.
I didn’t realize the Berkeley instrument detector only sampled gamma energy.
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Great chart to convert dosages:
http://falloutphilippines.blogspot.com/2011/04/heres-helpful-epa-chart-that-converts.html
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Besides the obvious radiation exposure problem, significant levels of I-131 indicate another problem by showing up now, specifically, ongoing nuclear criticality. Big surprise, huh? What an absolute catastophe for mankind…
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Just wanted to mention that here in Pittsburgh we have had an amazing amount of rain the past 2 months…almost everyday…and many people have sore throats, bad “allergies”, even little kids going on inhalers for the first time ever (They say it is asthma). Sure makes you wonder…
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Notice what you notice. I like that saying.
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I think its the iodine. Burning vegetation, our throats and lungs too. They DO admit there are iodine emissions.
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This is terrible news. Cesium!!…what about all the cattle lands that we rely on? They hardly get any testing!..
My state promised to test Strontium, but keeps saying the testing process & results for that isotope are lengthy & delayed–?
UC-Berkeley has not measured Strontium yet, have they? I read that you should assume it’s there.
**It would be interesting to find out if they are testing breast milk anywhere in the U.S.???**
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Posted a reply for you the other day, don’t know if you saw it:
http://enenews.com/outside-pressure-on-university-professors-not-to-release-radiation-data/comment-page-1#comment-66432
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Heh, I should have scrolled down first!
To continue here, I just haven’t seen much non-EPA data of this sort for the east coast.
http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-for-radiation-monitoring-of-foodwater-and-air
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/774/petition-to-reinstate-ongoing-testing-for-radiation-from-fukushima/
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To follow up, I had some modified Citrus Pectin (natural chelator) and tried to stay indoors more today. My throat now feels much better. The air was not gritty or hazy yesterday, as it usually seemed during plume-ridden days, per NILU. So, who knows?
I’m still trying to find a really good Zeolite and a Calcium Bentonite Clay!…
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I am running with a charcoal and pectin combo.
http://www.charcoalremedies.com/radiation_poisoning
I’ve been thinking about the zeolite situation. When they dump tons of zeolite on reactors aren’t they using crude zeolite that hasn’t been “cleaned?” If so, then that appears to work. Just thinking out loud.
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They also say you can take Borax or Boron in small doses to offset a radiation exposure…
http://newparadigmdigest.com/5706/additional-radiation-protection-from-boron-bentonite-clay-and-fulvic-minerals/
I’m just trying pectin for the first time. It helped!
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I started washing every load with Borax just to tie up what might be getting on the clothes and floor towels (I wash those separate and run it through twice and each time with borax) I have down for people to step on as people come in and out of the entrance door. It is pretty good stuff! My whites are so much whiter! And that is really an important thing to care about just before an ELE. : )
And you are right. It is inexpensive.
We are also using that Triple Boron supplement.
How can you tell the pectin helped you?
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Anna:
I have some borax sitting in the basement, will start using it for laundry. Wondered how to clean the rad off after being outside. And leaving shoes outside.
And yes, we can face the ELE with whiter whites.
Also Anna can you check and see if the HAARPY thingy is still over Ohio? Nasty storms.
Cassie
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My throat felt soothed and my whole body felt less stressed… Thanks for the tip on activated charcoal. How much do you take? Are there any side effects? I’d like to avoid hydrocarbon/petrochemical derivatives (already dealt with the Gulf), but I’m sure this food-grade charcoal is not related?
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I’m not seeing HAARP on you but I am seeing some kind of linear burst in Ontario and Quebec, close to the US borders and also off of Hywy 80 in NV between Fallon and Parran.
Yes, we can have super white clothes to wear in the celestial kingdom.
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Thanks for checking Anna. Storms gone now.
And yes, I think super white garments are THE fashion choice for the angelic realm.
Cassie
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@East Coast, We are using the bamboo charcoal:
http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/bamboo_activated_charcoal_powder
That link is a good read. Look at the left side of the page “FAQ” Hope this helps.
An 1/8th of a tsp 3 times a day with the pectin at meals.
It says one can mix it with honey or whatever for kids if they don’t like drinking black water. I buy in bulk.
I’m glad you are feeling better. : )
@ Cassie, You are welcome!
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@ Anna
Was wondering when someone would mention
activated charcoal.
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@ ZP, we can’t underestimate what charcoal is capable of. It cleans water, air and soil and us. Now, we just need a bunker.
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It’s obscene that more public interest groups are not advising the public, but the govt. wants to keep it all on the down-low.
Borax and baking soda remedies are cheap and easy to find in the cleaning aisle of a grocery store!
I just don’t know…it’s not looking good!
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MAY 20, 2011
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/Documents/CDPH-RHB-RadReport-2011-05-20.PDF
Concentration Levels I-131 and Cs-137, -134 not detected or 900 times less than FDA standard.
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FDA standards are moot for chronic low dose internal exposures.
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See this — http://radhealth.nodes.net
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Toxicity of plutonium and other actinides
http://books.google.com/books?id=NwwAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=rad+health+nodes&source=bl&ots=XrN-ios4Sm&sig=ifhc_3Q1QVZI9652GR9f3QTym4I&hl=en&ei=R_vaTabmOpTWtQPP8pmvDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=rad%20health%20nodes&f=false
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Where are the data? A headline is hardly a story.
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Data? We don’t need no stinking data!
But there have spikes of increasing size since March.
http://www.google.com/search?q=radiation+reactor+1+millisieverts+per+hour&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIT_en
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Good source of Zeolite – http://www.zeohealth.com/
Good source of Activated Charcoal – http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/
Here is a “must read” which talks about charcoal vs radiation. Encouraging
http://www.charcoalremedies.com/radiation_poisoning
If you buy charcoal from these folks get the finest grind you can. Much easier to ingest.
In a worst case scenario you can grind your own charcoal from fireplace coals.
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