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Highly radioactive substances detected in Tokyo — Higher than what was found near Fukushima plant

Published: May 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm ET
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Highly Radioactive Substances Detected in Tokyo, Arirang (Korea’s Global TV), May 15, 2011:

[...] highly radioactive substances were detected in parts of Tokyo.

Japan’s Asahi Shimbun reports about 3,200 and nearly 2-thousand becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram were found in the soil of Tokyo districts of Koto and Chiyoda, respectively, from testing conducted between April 10th and the 20th.

This amount is higher than what was found in the prefectures near the Fukushima plant and experts warn that other areas may be subject to radiation contamination as clusters of clouds containing radioactive material remain in the atmosphere. [...]

Published: May 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm ET
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133 comments to Highly radioactive substances detected in Tokyo — Higher than what was found near Fukushima plant

  • SteveMT
    May 15, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    In the name of all that is good in the world, it is time to evacuate.


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  • SteveMT
    May 15, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    The Japanese People need to be saved whether their government wants to or not. They deserve much better than this blatant disregard for human life.


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    • I hope this goes viral
      May 15, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Completely agree.

      http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85736.html

      OPINION: How to minimize consequences of the Fukushima catastrophe

      By Alexey V. Yablokov
      MOSCOW, April 15, Kyodo

      The analysis of the health impact of radioactive land contamination by the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, made by Professor Chris Busby (the European Committee of Radiation Risk) based on official Japanese Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology data, has shown that over the next 50 years it would be possible to have around 400,000 additional cancer patients within a 200-kilometer radius of the plant.

      This number can be lower and can be even higher, depending on strategies to minimize the consequences. Underestimation is more dangerous for the people and for the country than overestimation.

      Based on Chernobyl experiences, it is necessary to understand that it may be impossible to quickly get back to life before the catastrophe and to accept the post-Fukushima realities as soon as possible.

      The main directions of actions that should be taken:

      1. Enlarge the exclusion zone to at least about a 50-km radius of the plant;

      2. Distribute detailed instructions on effective ways to protect the health of individuals while avoiding the additional contamination of food. Organize regular measurements of all people by individual dose counters (for overall radionuclides) at least once a week. Distribute the radioprotectors and decontaminants (substances which provide the body protection against harmful effects of radiation) of radionuclides. There are many of such food additives;

      3. Develop recommendations for safe agriculture on the contaminated territories: reprocessing of milk, decontamination of meat, turning agriculture into production of technical cultures (e.g. biofuels etc.). Such ”radionuclide-resistant” agriculture will be costly (it may be up to 30-40 percent compared with conventional agriculture) and needs to be subsidized;

      4. It is necessary to urgently improve existing medical centers — and possibly create new ones — to deal with the immediate and long-term consequences of the irradiated peoples (including medical-genetic consultations on the basis of chromosome analysis etc.);

      5. The most effective way to help organize post-Fukushima life in the contaminated territories (from Chernobyl lessons) is to create a special powerful interagency state body (ministry or committee) to handle the problems of contaminated territories during the first most complicated years.

      I am sure that Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian radiation medicine and agriculture specialists, radiobiologists and radioecologists who have enormous experience in fighting radiation consequences will be ready to cooperate with Japan.

      (Alexey V. Yablokov is a councilor for the Russian Academy of Science and a principal author of ”Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment,” published in 2009).

      http://www.amazon.com/Chernobyl-Consequences-Catastrophe-Environment-ebook/dp/B004X8DOQC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1303869671&sr=8-2

      $2.99
      Kindle edition – April 19, 2011

      Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment [Kindle Edition]

      Alexey Yablokov (Author), Vassily Nesterenko (Author), Alexey Nesterenko (Author), Janette Sherman-Nevinger (Editor), Dmitry Grodzinsky (Foreword)


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  • Cindy
    May 15, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    The Truth will slowly all filter out , as they test more and more new areas.

    Is this why the Chief Cabinet Secretary, was thinking of moving the Government ‘South” of Tokyo ?

    It’s a mess, I’snt it !!!


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    • SteveMT
      May 15, 2011 at 1:48 pm

      Cindy and Mark V, TEPCO knew 16 hours after the quake!!

      “Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, says most of the fuel rods in the No.1 reactor had dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel within 16 hours of the earthquake on March 11th.”

      http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/15_21.html

      These people need to be in jail immediately.


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  • NewPoster
    May 15, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Thank you for all you do. I come everyday for info, not only HERE but in the comments. We are looking at the worst nuclear accident ever – and it NEVER NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
    Just watched that video a poster left…the one on Chernobyl. Oh my God…I am left speechless. Thank you.


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    • Cuica
      May 15, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      This is the biggest event to ever happen in the history of mankind and not many people know about it, in fact fewer and fewer even remember there’s a nuclear problem in Japan.


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  • mikael
    May 15, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Thats no suprise, again the windpattens and the problem with a find like this is,
    - how high is the radiation really, in areas around Tokyo.
    - how high is the reading in Fukoshima.
    Somthing is not right and the strongest clue is that the overall radiarion must be mutsh higher that what the numbers we have seen sofar indicated, officialy. And the area is probably also mutsh bigger, if the falloutmaps is correct at all, the ones sofar rewiled.
    Where have they realy been and messured radiation.
    What are the facts, Japan.
    And why the lies.

    Now that the diclosures is dripping to the media, its time to give us the real numbers.
    And face the consecvenses.
    Its allready escalating into something ugly, for us all.


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  • FanJapan
    May 15, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    “from testing conducted between April 10th and the 20th.”

    It takes a bit of time to get results from the tests… Pffff!


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  • Moco
    May 15, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Contaminate the ground and ruin the food. Pretty simple.
    Famine, is biblical. I guess it has officially began on a world wide basis.
    Throw in a few floods and earthquakes, and we are off to the races, to the bottom.


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  • SteveMT
    May 15, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Are there any further question about deception and lies by TEPCO?

    Sunday, May 15, 2011 23:29 +0900 (JST)

    The firm said that within about 3 hours after the reactor automatically shut down, the cooling water had evaporated to a level at the top of the rods.

    In the next hour and a half, parts of the fuel rods are believed to have begun melting.

    The temperature of the fuel rods is believed to have reached 2,800 degrees Celsius at this stage, and the meltdown advanced rapidly.

    Almost of all the fuel rods melted and dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel by 6:50 am on March 12th.

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/15_21.html


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  • Pu239
    May 15, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    “”Unstable” is an understatement.”
    — Arnie Gundersen


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    There’s just NO WAY one can come out of this with the same ‘heart’, and ‘belief in the BASIC good of people’ anymore! Boy, did my Mama lie to me!


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    • ZombiePlanet
      May 15, 2011 at 2:30 pm

      A sign that we all need to reevaluate any, and all, trust that we may have in our corp-media-government that has our “best” interest at heart.

      Time to escape from the zombie planet.


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  • Ashen
    May 15, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    This is at least three of the four horsemen in Revelation. Red horse – War. Black horse – Famine. Pale (sickly green) horse – Death… And Hell was following with him. That leaves us with the White horse whose rider comes in false peace (bow with no arrows) wearing crowns – the Anti-Christ. This “man” will be able to perform miracles and call down fire from heaven in view of the masses thus deceiving most into believing he is the Savior. He will seem to be the answer to every problem and situation on earth. He will bring false Peace and Security to the nations of the world. “Fasten your seatbelt Dorothy – cause Kansas is going bye-bye.” -Cypher to Neo in “The Matrix”


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      • Conqueror Worm
        May 15, 2011 at 2:43 pm

        Only six more days and you’ll be gone- right? IT’S IN THE BIBLE! Maybe there’s hope for this rock yet…once the zombies fly away.


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        • ZombiePlanet
          May 15, 2011 at 2:52 pm

          Your lack of adequate, and discerning, research is evident, and shining, in your post.


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        • Ashen
          May 15, 2011 at 6:08 pm

          Hey Conq – If I’m gone or remain here you can be sure of one thing – as long as I have a single breath left in my body, I will NEVER accept the authority of the enemy. I will not give in, give up, or give out – but in all honesty you already know what you’ll do – it’s your “nature”. I’m no zombie just as you are no “conqueror”. It would serve you well to refrain from sharing your arrogant ignorance for all to see. In all truth, Conq, it’s okay to admit you’re afraid. Mockery is the top trait of someone who is very scared. Share something intelligent and or be silent. You don’t have to resort to mockery and sarcasm if you disagree with anyone’s post here – just skip right over it, Bubba. You’ll feel better if you do.


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          • Conqueror Worm
            May 15, 2011 at 10:55 pm

            Hypochristian! It would serve most of us well if you’d refrain from sharing your clearly RELIGIOUS based (you liar!) ignorance for all to see, but I realize you won’t, that’s the pernicious nature of a cult. Cultists have been “predicting” the evil fantasy fictions of revelation since the 14th century!!! All have been Very Sure that “this end time” is “The End Time”. That you peddle that threadbare delusion here (and pathetically try to hide behind the skirts of “spirituality”) reveals YOUR fear completely; hence your projection in attempting to assign it to me or whoever. You should of course be welcoming an early exit to “join your father in heaven”, whether it’s May 21st (HA!) or a few DNA destroyed years down the road; rapture or warrior, the goal is the same isn’t it? Let go…let god, or do you have a new script…uh, scripture to “reveal”? And the very minute you edit your posts to reflect something intelligent (or true), I’ll have no reason to respond. In the meantime “Bubba” (as you said, with sarcasm and mockery)I will feel free, with my fully functioning, non-cult ridden brain, to address any and every post that hijacks this otherwise informative forum from your insanity. Count on it. Oh, and peace be to you and yours too, and I mean that in the same exact manner in which you originally posted it ;) !! You see, I have lived long enough to have met your kind many, many times. I know just what I’m up against. It’s you Ash, who are scared. Your cult-think is crumbling, so you’re doubling down on “teh crazy” because you have no other alternative- I understand. So keep posting and looking for riders in the sky. It’s doing wonders for the non-advancement of your “belief” system. There- that does feel better!!!


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          • Ashen
            May 16, 2011 at 2:17 am

            Hey Conq -that’s about a 10 on the “stress-O-meter”! I wasn’t my intention to upset your fragile mind. So, you think you can attack others on here whom YOU (the Worm) deem as “insane” or “unbelievable”? As I stated earlier, it’s much easier to just skip a post you disagree with. You are more ignorant than I thought if you believe you’ve “lived long enough and have met my kind” at anytime. As far as you knowing what you’re up against with me – that’s so hilarious!!! Because if you had ever met my kind or were “up against me” your ass would be up between your shoulder blades. You’re just a punk who likes to bother others from behind your computer monitor – definitely not in person. I was simply sharing a perspective, one that you obviously cannot begin to comprehend. You’re the “self appointed” blog monitor who thinks it’s funny to demean or attack other peoples posts. I’m not spreading fear and I’m not afraid. I’m certainly not afraid or intimidated by a worm like you. Needless to say- You wouldn’t call me a liar face to face. You’ll go on mocking and insulting whoever you need to, to feel you’re in charge and have “authority” – you do understand that it’s your nature? Don’t mistake meekness for weakness.


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        • Ashen
          May 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm

          Just to clear up any confusion. I am not religious, I am spiritual. I agree that there are many, many false prophets (who are for profits)who are “nuts”. There is a big difference between being “religious” and being “spiritual”. Enough said. Eagles don’t swat at flies…


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  • Sad
    May 15, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Wow.

    Nuclear power is way too volatile an energy source to be left to as unstable a species (and planet) as we currently are (and live upon). For example, just a few years ago, we are told, the entire world economy was on the verge of complete collapse, perhaps back to the stone age, which only a $700 Billion bailout of the banking and other corrupt industries narrowly averted. So say it did collapse, who would be maintaining all those highly radioactive spent fuel deposits etc at the world’s close to 500 nuclear reactors, and for how long? Is there any contingency plan for such an emergency? No. The industry has no plans for such worst case scenarios. Period. I mean just look, for example, at their desperate use of, what, sawdust, newspapers and diaper chemicals for crissakes to try to stop a leak of highly radioactive water at Fukushima!!!
    http://www.propertycasualty360.com/2010/02/01/aig-bailout-saved-economy-from-utter-collapse-geithner-paulson-tell-congress
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8425719/Japan-nuclear-crisis-workers-using-newspaper-and-sawdust-to-block-pipes.html

    Nuclear power is a genie we should have never let out of the bottle.


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Yes Ashen,…and his ‘bow’ will be “toxon” in Greek, meaning “Cheap, imitation”. It saddens me to think how many people don’t know that he, the false one, comes first! Many will hear him say ‘scripture-like’ things,…and when he offers money, food, etc,…well, you know the story there. Are we not seeing a sort of that now?

    Thanks for the warnings friend!


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    • Ashen
      May 15, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      @Jill – you’re welcome. You are exactly correct about the word “bow” definition in Greek. Have you considered that when John was writing the Book of Revelation – (specifically the four horsemen and Hell) that he SAW them in that order. I don’t find that they will necessarily ARRIVE in that order. Also all hell on earth will have to be unleashed for the “lawless one”, the Anti-Christ to appear on the world scene to seemingly solve everything. It’s my contention that although John SAW him first, that he will APPEAR last. Thank you Jill. This is rapidly moving to the spiritual realm where everything actually takes place anyway. I feel the physical realm will soon be revealed for what it truly is – illusion. Only our spirits live on. :-)


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  • Not Telling
    May 15, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Just wondering if I’m still banned from this site. Apparently not all bad news is “good news”.


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  • mark V
    May 15, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Please welcome new club member: CEPCO

    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110516a5.html

    Circus tents must be good business nowadays.


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  • Nancy
    May 15, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    I suggest we get all those guys from TEPCO, the US nuclear commission, Pres. Obama, and members of the US EPA together. Send them over to Fukushima and let them go in and clean it up… The workers who are there now are living out a death sentence. Why should they suffer – let the top dogs take care of it. That’s the honorable way it was done in the Middle Ages. Let’s throw in some execs from BP while we’re at it.


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    • kx
      May 15, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      sarah palin and the bush family too!!!


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    • terrarainyohio
      May 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      Here, here! (great suggestion)

      If you listen to the Alex Jones radio show today, he has some great commentary on Fukushima. As I have reported, no chemtrails here since March 11th, just cold, rainy, miserable weather.


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    • Cuica
      May 15, 2011 at 6:24 pm

      Instead “they” are doing just that to the poor people of Japan as they sit from a very comfortable distance…..Where is Harry Karry? Isn’t he suppose to show up when the shit hits the fan?


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  • Dr.Stranglelove
    May 15, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    The blob spreads.


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Do you guys hear that???? I think it’s the fat lady,…and she’s singing! :-(


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    LOVE that song Cassie,….drove all the way from Cleveland, Ohio to Chico, Cali. listening to that cd!
    Yes, “this is gonna hurt like hell’!


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    I’m wondering if you peeps see friends, family, etc,…who are complaining of feeling poorly. My health forums are A BUZZ with similar ailments as we seem to be collecting into some freaky mosiac of slow-death crap-ola. I’ve reported previously that one of my two dogs almost died twice in both March and April, and my roommates 3 dogs are all at various stages of poor health that is all new. Now, one of my roommates looks BAD! He’s been ‘sick’ for about a month,….has terrible eating habits, and truly looks like a walking dead man. I mean looking at my mutant tomato plants makes me almost cry for my three tiny Grandbabies out here in the west coast!


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    • Anna
      May 15, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      My dad has a real bad cough. The doctor told him he was fine. (not)
      My sister got bronchitis and she never gets bronchitis. Hard to say if it sensitivity to pollen. The rest of the family seems to be feeling fine. They are on the CA coast, up in the mountains, eating ice cream and drinking raw milk and eating spinach.


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    • Cassie
      May 15, 2011 at 6:57 pm

      Oops, put my reply in the wrong spot Jill.
      What part of the country are you noticing this?
      I live in the midwest and so far, not noticing any medical problems.
      Yet.


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  • Rod Fuel
    May 15, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    An evacuation of Tokyo was predicted by Russian engineer, Artem Dragunov: Japan Prediction: Nuclear Holocaust, Tokyo Evacuated


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    • Cassie
      May 15, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      I think we are going to be seeing nuclear refugees.


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    • Cassie
      May 15, 2011 at 6:52 pm

      Where can they move the capitol?
      Somewhere in Japan?

      What happens if the whole island needs to evacuate?
      Where will the population go?
      Will Korea or China take them?
      Does Taiwan have enough room?


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      • Rod Fuel
        May 15, 2011 at 11:35 pm

        “Where can they move the capitol?” – either Hokkaido or Okinawa. Both are very far from Fukushima.

        “What happens if the whole island needs to evacuate?” – That would be a black swan worst- case scenario and, basically, the end of Japan. If that happens, we would all see an apocalyptic financial crisis that would go evolve quickly into a worldwide, global depression for many, many years. :(

        “Where will the population go?” – I used to live in Tokyo and once asked a US military friend a similar question. According to him, first the United States Forces in Japan would act with Japan’s Self Defense Forces in getting every single man, woman and child possible to be moved to the most nearby major airports. Then they would all be evacuated with massive fleets of C130s to Guam, the Marshall Islands, the Northern Mariana Islands, the Samoa Islands and other US territories. Then emergency food, water, clothing, living quarters, and medical support would be provided. He said all of this was part of the SOFA agreement.

        Will Korea or China take them? – In such an epic disaster case, maybe. But I’m not sure. They would probably help in some way or another.

        Does Taiwan have enough room? – Maybe, and most likely Taiwan would offer some kind of support.

        Let’s all pray that this does not happen.


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        • bcbud
          May 16, 2011 at 3:46 am

          I think it has to happen, but it won’t. Costs too much.


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        • Cassie
          May 16, 2011 at 6:33 am

          Many thanks for this reply.
          I have been wondering how it might unfold.

          I was thinking Okinawa was out since it could be contaminated as well? So close to Japan?

          I also think if the nuclear refugees come to the US territories
          there will have to be some agreement about long term medical care. The US cannot afford to take care of them?


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    • Deetu 3
      May 15, 2011 at 6:56 pm

      ..and a few people here-more than a month ago.


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    • Godzilla
      May 15, 2011 at 8:33 pm

      It’s not hard to “predict” the future by claiming to have seen it some time in the past ….. mysteriously the prediction can’t be found in archives.

      But at any rate, in my opinion the forced evacuation of Tokyo would cause more death and suffering than would be caused by even a huge increase in cancers. It would have to be at the level of direct, acute radiation poisoning for evacuation to be a better option than bugging in.


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  • Cassie
    May 15, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    What area are you from Jill?

    I live in the midwest and have not noticed health issues.
    Yet. :(


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  • SteveMT
    May 15, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Japan evacuates villages outside nuclear zone
    By Mark Willacy
    Posted 57 minutes ago
    Because of wind patterns, Litate and nearby communities have been swathed in high radiation and authorities are not willing to let people stay any longer.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/16/3217488.htm?section=world


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    I’m in California between Sacramento and Redding,…up in the moutains with Anne’s folks I guess! No,…I’m in the foothills at about 2,600 feet.


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    • Cassie
      May 15, 2011 at 7:09 pm

      Sorry to hear of illness.
      They say it is going to hit the young, old or weakened immune systems first.
      Nothing here in Ohio/Ind area yet that I have noticed.


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  • SteveMT
    May 15, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Panic Buying is Sweeping Toyko, Some Evacuate.

    Radiation fears spark panic buying, evacuations in Tokyo
    By Terril Yue Jones | Reuters – Tue, Mar 15, 2011

    TOKYO (Reuters) – Panic swept Tokyo on Tuesday after a rise in radioactive levels around an earthquake-hit nuclear power plant north of the city, causing some to leave the capital and others to stock up on food and supplies.

    http://my.news.yahoo.com/radiation-fears-spark-panic-buying-evacuations-tokyo-20110314-213816-815.html


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  • Jill M. Clarkson
    May 15, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    WEll, if ‘they’ were smart, they’d get in front of a camera somehow and pray that the rest of the World hears their plight. Hearts are very BIG in a lot of places in this World,…I HAVE to believe that, Yes?


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    • Ashen
      May 15, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      Sadly, I believe we may see good, compassionate people turn many evacuees away due to the fear (and very real possibility) of the evacuees themselves and belongings transmitting above normal/high radiation to them, their families, their friends, etc. I hate to think of all the innocent men, women, children, and babies who may be “forsaken” because of the radiation threat – whether it’s founded or unfounded. Perhaps the truth may be that questions tell us more than answers ever do. It may appear that we all are doomed, but appearances can be deceiving. Radiation, radioactive isotopes, fission, and nuclear meltdowns are able to kill our physical body – but will never even touch our “true self” which is our immortal spirit and that’s a comforting thought.:-)


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  • Jack
    May 15, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    We would have to make tough management decisions.
    Today we chose to preserve urban settlements over fertile farmlands in
    Louisiana, farms that were burgeoning with great crops.
    We chose to eliminate that food source to instead preserve a million
    mouths-to-feed living in their mass-consumption station, waiting like
    so many baby birdies with upturned mouth expecting to receive food.
    Yes BIG HEARTS to spare people from unnecessary, ignorant suffering.
    Management team, let’s get real…
    What is the actual, realistic, sustainable population of Japan, before
    this terminal crisis….? I’d say less than a tenth of what is now dying off.
    Is it cruel to say so? Isn’t it CRUEL to allow this endless breeding and
    depredation of resources from around the world? Kinda like us?


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  • Godzilla
    May 16, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Jack, I think it would be better to slightly reduce the human population by birth control, and keep our civilization. I prefer to hear happy kids brimming with laughter in civilization, rather than the wailings of periodic famines. We COULD overcome the failings, the plundering of natural resources, the incredible amount of waste …. we could have energy sources that don’t pollute or kill ….. but unfortunately we don’t seem to be heading in the direction of the Georgia Guidestones (which I am a big fan of).


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  • Jack
    May 16, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Hey ‘Zilla…
    You were right.
    I wish maybe I hadn’t always been so cynical, skeptical,
    full of the snotty, teasing snickering sour-belly twisted TV comedy.
    Of course, I wish it was Paradise.
    Heinlein describes generally that humans need to have that new frontier, new adventure, exploration, settlement of wild new lands.
    He sets a future-sci-fi reality where groups of Wagon-train packed
    settlers ride out through time-space-travel portals to establish
    settlements on new worlds.
    We’ve sorta shown a bad ignorant side, with all us humans over
    doing everything, breeding, destroying…
    That there Holy Bible seems to point out a lot of Good Management
    policies which have been forgotten, disregarded. I’m no example
    of Good Stewardship, but I know a little about what we are told to do.
    So, ‘Zilla…it seems the Georgy Prophecy Stones are seeing a
    fulfillment of their Stories. If some type of radiation-resistant
    Neo-Human can possibly scrape together a survival of some kind.
    Otherwise, those Stones may be Collected for the Galactic Museum
    by “Grays” or Martians or somebody surveying our lifeless Canvas
    ready to be Painted to a New Heaven and a New Earth. HalleluYah!


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  • Mike B
    May 16, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    We can get through this. We can become healthier than we’ve been in the history of the world. We can prevent & fight back from the increased cancer rates that will hit us.


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  • Seer
    May 17, 2011 at 5:04 am

    I’m really disappointed with the chat on here. Rampant speculation, doomsday-obsession, disaster-consciousness, and hysteria are replacing measurements, analysis, and decisionmaking. Invariably, prior crises have been blown out of proportion by people such as yourselves. This is truly a bad situation, and hopefully stimulates a complete reevaluation of the energy procurement and generation we have become dependent on. But it has nothing to do with a 2000-year-old book of made-up fables or the false authority that you are taking on in these discussions.


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  • Steven
    May 17, 2011 at 5:53 am

    @Seer

    “Rampant speculation, doomsday-obsession, disaster-consciousness, and hysteria are replacing measurements, analysis, and decisionmaking.”

    It would seem that measurements, analysis and decision making were what got us into this mess in the first place. Many in attendance here are aware of the full depth and scope of this disaster, and have been for some time – well ahead of TEPCO, the Japanese government et al, and have had to bear that burden largely alone but for their interactions with others on this site, so should be forgiven for allowing themselves some measure of conjecture in the face of general ignorance elsewhere.

    As for your comment “a 2000-year-old book of made-up fables” I sympathise to some extent, believe me when I say that particular view is subject to change as you progress through life. In the meantime may I suggest tolerance and respect for the beliefs of others, it costs nothing and opens doors rather than closes them.

    Peace.

    As for


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  • joeb
    May 17, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Just to repeat, in amidst the religion vs Spirit tangent:-

    Now why has nobody on this thread yet mentioned the Stuxnet virus? A worthwhile line of inquiry would be why Merkel so quickly shut down some (Siemens controlled) German reactors…

    Why was the USS Ronald Reagan (irony or what?) in the Fukushima area at the time – check the timing of its first communication about radiation.

    Why was the Chikyu Maru in the area since early January, according to Japanese news and many spook sites?
    Background on the ship here: http://deepseanews.com/2009/05/chikyus-quest-to-drill-the-mantle/

    Why is money for a very few always put before peoples well-being?

    Why?

    A: ‘Cos the money people are psychotic, led by a serial rapist at the IMF.

    joeb


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  • Heart of the Rose
    May 17, 2011 at 7:55 am

    I posted some stuff about Stuxnet last week.
    It isn’t a virus..it’s a backdoor operating system.


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  • white indian
    May 21, 2011 at 6:42 am

    D-Bugg

    you calc is wrong

    17,3 mikroSvt/hour does NOT give 50 milliSvt/yera

    but 150 milliSvt/yera

    thats THREE TIMES HIGHER then your calculation,

    because 17,3mikroSvt/hour times 8760 hours(one year) gives=151548 mikroSvt=151 milliSvt/yera.

    so thats roughly THREETIMES HIGER the the 50 you menstione.

    so be carefull to calculate,

    a mistake is easuy to make,
    jan netherl;ands


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  • mark V
    May 21, 2011 at 7:09 am

    dbug is suspected to have some uranium or GE shares by little me


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