Published: May 15th, 2012 at 1:58 pm ET
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Senator Ron Wyden
News Radio 1190 & 102.3 KEX
Mark & Dave
May 14, 2012
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR): My concern is if there’s another quake those rods could catch fire and release a significant amount of radiation that would be headed our way.
Host: Is there already a concern that too much has already headed our way?
Wyden: I’m not going to speculate with respect to those health consequences.
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Published: May 15th, 2012 at 1:58 pm ET
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ALREADY????
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TOO MUCH???
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I’m not going to speculate with respect to those health consequences.
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Yet, he's willing to "SPECULATE" on potential future health consequences of something that may, OR MAY NOT happen.
Far too easy to fear monger the unknown than to talk about known facts.
FACT: Fuku has released a huge amount of radiological pollution into the land, sea and air. WHY CAN'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT???
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We all know why he is not allowed to answer that question. Seriously, what else could he say? The fact that he is the only politician (that I know of) who is going around trying to bring attention to Fulushima is pretty awesome.
Even if there has already been enough radiation released to kill everything, even if the truth is that there is nothing anyone can do to fix it now, at least he is trying to get the word out.
You all know what the answer is, if not go look at the webcam for awhile. There was a bright flash there this morning and it listed that there were only two of us watching….how is it possible that after a year there aren't millions of people watching?
So thank you Sen. Wyden for trying to get the message out
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mem,
I get that he's "trying" to get the word out but honestly, how does trying parlay into ignoring facts in favor of fear mongering on the future? What does he get out of that? What's his pay off in this?
"Let's not tell the children playing in the road why the truck barreling down the road is a danger, because instead, let's talk about the express lane they may or may not put in and how it may or may not pose a greater danger."
IS THIS THE REASONING WE'RE GIVING WAY TO?
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Stop catastrophizing. If it were too late, Wyden would just resign and spend his remaining time with loved ones instead of trying to wake people up and deal w/ unit 4. There has NOT already been enough radiation released to kill everything. The catastrophe is already bad enough without making people think it's too late. Gunderson and Caldicott have both said they'd move their loved ones to the southern hemisphere IF unit 4 goes. If they were sure the northern hem would become toast anyway, they'd move now instead of waiting. Exaggerating the severity of what has already occurred is dangerous because it can cause people to give up and instead of working to prevent the larger catastrophe from occurring.
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Excellent and agreed.
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Agreed also, this ain't over.
"it" probably needs a "blow off top" so to speak before the people regain some power and influence, pitch forks would help too.
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@mem: "…trying to bring attention to Fulushima is pretty awesome." Really? You mean he can't answer an obvious question but we're somehow supposed to think he's the vanguard in raising public awareness?!
He's a bag-man for the nuclear industry; garnering only so much interest in this catastrophe and nothing more. You must understand, not-unlike the pigs who brought-down the world's economy with globalist scams and then threatened us all with dire economic conditions if we didn't absorb those losses, we're being softened-up to pick-up the tab for this catastrophe. You honestly didn't think that these scumbags had any intention of owning-up to this, did you?
Where's the nuclear technologies industry on the issue of SFP4? Notice the blaring silence from their side of the isle? Wyden's sole purpose is to form an unwitting 'consensus' from the ranks of the public, with the ultimate goal of terrorizing us into absorbing all the losses. They're all diseased primates; but fortunately, they and their kids will be breathing (as they are now) the same air as mine. They've already murdered tens-of-millions and only want us to buy them more time, so they can murder even more.
Now, how's that for hardcore…
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You know what is really making me feel like I am not relating is everyone (myself included) has prayed, shouted, begged, wished, hoped, written about, bitched, and otherwise lamented and chastised the lack of publicly published information and coverage about Fukushima.
There have been individuals who have absolutely, if nothing else, completely delivered what we have asked for, ultimately.
There are obviously many layers of issues and consequences that I believe flavor both the quality and the direction of the Fukushima story. I am also all for intuitive reasoning but it is stunning to me when some posters really take their criticism to the level that is totally rude. I'm not excusing myself in this inward glance at *us*, but I know I always work to evolve myself.
Im all for critical thinking and communication. But a criticism is a different thing than critical thinking.
Keep in mind we should be grateful on some level that an important aspect of the anti nuclear movement is achieved as it moves from not being talked about to being at least available now to the world.
I just know if they read something some of these people wrote about them and if it was a bullshit incorrect ignorant statement at that, and if that speaking advocate said – to hell with it… they don't even appreciate my efforts…. well, I would hold that poster as the cause of something extremely stupid which hurt the anti-nuclear momentum.
I don`t think its the best of…
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How painful is it, really, to just say "Yes. We're worried that too much radiation has already been released."
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Oh don't worry senator I can speculate for you. 20 Thousand already dead from radiation in the US alone. Thousands dead in Japan where news is no longer reported and statistics are brutally suppressed. 250km of radioactive wasteland in dense urban Tokyo. There will be millions who will suffer from radiation. The time frame for epidemiology is going to evolve as people ingest more and the bioaccumulated effect of toxic levels of fission bi-products will rear it's ugly head. It has only been one year since the accident. Chernobyl heart and other symptoms took 4 years to develop and statistically manifest. This accident on the other hand is easily 3 times larger with the addition of weaponized MOX plutonium in the mix. Expect the bodies to pile higher. I'll keep screaming to bring out your dead.
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I think your assessment is correct. Keep speaking the truth. It's the right thing to do.
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Grampybone…well said, right on.
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awesome Grampybone…
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Agreed Awesome Grampybone..~Thank you~
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I've been thinking about all the radioactive burning going on in Japan and can only image it is for or includes those bodies piled high that you mention.
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From Bobby1, 39,925 per official CDC figures, which can be lower than epidemiological figures from other sources. (The CDC tends to be very conservative in its data reporting.) As of October, 2011:
http://freepdfhosting.com/37cc0eae6b.pdf
"The latest week 40 mortality statistics (through October 8) issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now indicate that the number of excess deaths in the U.S. since the Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster now stands at 39,925."
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The end of year version had 53,682 deaths in the US in 2011.
But I also said I thought the actual number was more like 75,000. It might be pushing 100,000 by now, but I haven't done any analysis since then.
http://freepdfhosting.com/ccafb5715d.pdf
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In the link you posted why is the mid atlantic reading not shown. Why is it blue? no data?
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why no data from the mid atlantic region
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he says that Im not going to speculate line a lot. Like, every time hes asked.
When he gets asked real sensitive questions, he adds an "uh" after every word? Makes him sound like a fake Italian or something. I know hes thinking about how best to answer in the party tradition.
He still hasent replied to my email. Not that I was holding my breath but it shows that he doesnt really care about his constituents.
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Lets not hold too high an expectation of honesty
from Politicians. We all would like to believe he
has a good heart , means well and wants to
look after our safety as he is thinking of our
future (sarcasm) He has been there and back!
Sure he knows it is bad here now. The "uh"
betrays a psychic disconnect. Too bad.
He has lost his soul.
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We need to educate all of our politicians about nuclear radiation. We need to end this insane comparison to "background radiation."
We need to let people know the different between internal and external exposure. We need to educate people about ways to de-tox and mitigate the damage done by radiation through natural substances.
http://rhs.nodes.org
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You are right on; We all must keep speaking
the truth to keep us sane in this mad mad
world.
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"…with respect to those health consequences."
- Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)
'THOSE health consequences', would insinuate to me that he is admitting there are indeed health issues. That 'too much' has already headed our way.
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Jesus, give Wyden a BREAK! At least he's talking about Fuku. No other politicians are willing to even look at it.
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I think he's appointed to talk about it. No oneman shows or solo actions in politics.
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It's pretty likely that he's been appointed to talk about it. It would be hard for him to do alone, just imagine how many threats he would get otherwise!
But would it be better if no one had been appointed to even start to break the bad news slowly?
What do people think would happen if he answered that everyone on the West Coast (at least) have been given a lethal dose? How much would everyone freak out?
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Mem, I'm sure people would freak out at first but the people have a right to know the truth and the right to a possible treatment which is available.
Vitamin C Prevents Radiation Damage
http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v08n06.shtml
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I do think people have a right to know the truth so that they can prepare and mitigate. I left the west coast as soon as I could after Fukushima blew up, and moved my kids away from their friends and all that. Even though it was tough to move, I don't regret it and I'm glad I know enough to put baking soda in my kid's bath every day. I still wonder how it would play out if everyone knew though.
I don't know what Wyden's intentions are or how he profits from being the spokesperson, but regardless, it still benefits those of us who want the word to get out there.
I think that your link is great too, and here are some other ways to mitigate the radiation:
http://farmwars.info/?p=6062
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spot on Holland! These dead souls don't break wind, without first securing permission from their masters.
I have to say, though I believe in the innate goodness of our species and welcome positive thoughts, I am very impressed at how measured the enenews crew is, in their conclusions. It good to see we're not like little kids, jump'n-and-begging for attention from the big kids. I feel honored to be in your presence.
Also, thanks to enenews for providing such a quality website. This is proof that you don't need a lot of flashy graphics and crap to make a winning website…
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Great post, Aftershock! Enenews is cetainly a quality website with not only the latest on one of the most important issues of our day but also a great place to 'hang out'.
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@Holland: while I've got your attention, can you tell me the meaning of your avatar? Are you a programmer? If so, what language(s) are you working with?
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It's the logo of a firefox add-on; no script. It's my travel companion on the internet.
http://noscript.net/
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thanks Holland. I'll check this out…
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Great comments both of you. And indeed AFTERSHOCK NoScript & another even more powerful addon is Request Policy. Set both NosScript & Request Policy to block everything at First, RightClick on Request Policy to see what is on that page…set temp permissions there first before temp or permanently allowing in NoScript.
For persistent spying sites like connect.facebook.com or b.scorecardresearch.com…Go to NoScript options & add them as a filter to block them. Then when loading a page with them on Allow in Request Policy …page will load but those are blocked.
Also use the addons Better Privacy & Cookie monster. Set cookie monster to initially default reject all cookies. Oh ya slows you down a bit on the web….but boy do you learn in a hurry how many companies track your movements across the web.
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@Holland & MaidenHeaven: I installed both NoScript and RequestPolicy. I'm running "Collusion" as well. With Collusion, you can see all the links being run to-and-from the active page. I'm amazed by the amount of unauthorized snooping that's being dismissed as commercial activity. That said, these two add-ons did a wonderful job! I'll be installing these on my daughters laptop; which was just deloused (again by me) of all the viruses that made their way into it. This should help. Thanks guys!
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Well done, Aftershock! This should make (computer)life a lot easier.
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Internet Explorer security ..
Advanced Privacy Settings: Cookies
The following four tweaks modify the advanced privacy settings to handle cookies better
1.Override automatic cookie handling = enable
2.First-party Cookies = Accept
3.Third-party Cookies = Block (set to Prompt if your bored, then watch the action)
4.Always allow session cookies = enabled
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How do you clear your entire browser history after a session using IE? (Clearing cache, memory, site, cookies, etc.)
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Click tools, go down to internet options and click, click on delete browsing history, check all items you want to delete. click delete. I do this about 5 times a day it is quick and simple.
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Try Control-Shift-Del.
Or,
1. press Alt key to get the browser menu
2. Tools/Delete browsing history…
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Bravo PD. With Caldicott, Kaku, Busby, Arnie G. and many others being heard from on Fuku issues daily and with Wyden already calling for immediate international cooperation in letters to the Japanese Gov., NRC, and US State Dept., why is it necessary for him to provide his unexpert opinion on the amount of radiation headed our way. Lets face it folks – we are in danger. It's time to take whatever steps we feel are needed to protect ourselves and support those who act on our behalf, regardless of what we think of their politics.
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@PoorDaddy .. thanks for speaking up against the tide. I agree with you and even tho Wyden is not my state's senator I have called his office several times urging a continued fight for the Japan and West Coast USA and world.
I am a little discouraged with so much cynicism. Wyden is the one politcal ally Fuku has here with enough power to potentially get the ball rolling to enable a coalition team of experts to help before it's too late. The rest of the world and MSM are waiting for someone else to take the lead.
Does it take time? Yes obviously it does. The only thing all our politicians move quickly on and without respect to established law and rule and protocol is starting wars.
Please offer other sources to call or write to where support for this cause might be found.
Understand many Eneusers here already feel the end is upon us wo hope. Actually looking forward to the bugout in anarchy. You have that right as well.
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A politician will always be a politician will always be an opportunist of a self serving magnitude! There are no exceptions!!!!!
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Right on Goathead.
His former pastor Wright said the same – I am burdened to tell the truth. You politicians are burdened to tell lies. Why do you choose to be a politician?
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Everyone Please head to the Off topic thread to sign a petition to help save the Bees. Sorry Admin for going so off topic but this is soo important that I hope you will allow it.
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http://enenews.com/forum-topic-discussion-thread-feb-26-2012-present Bottom of page.
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No problem, thanks for asking. Here's the direct link to your original comment in case it gets buried soon: http://enenews.com/forum-topic-discussion-thread-feb-26-2012-present/comment-page-30#comment-249285
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At least Wyden is doing something. What is YOUR Senator doing?
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My Morman senator, Udall, supports Bill Gates's Terrapower's 4,000 nuclear reactors to be spread all over the US, never mind that the Democratic platform in Colorado said that they would not support subsidies to the nuclear industry. A big fat lie.
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Anne, I like your contributions here when you offer helpful information, which you do a lot of and I appreciate very much.
However, while I share your concern about anyone supporting the (terribly frightening and foolish) idea of putting a nuclear reactor in everyone's backyard, could we please try to follow Admin's stated policies about not bringing religion into our discussions? It is just so distracting and divisive.
I didn't hear anyone here mention Wyden's religious background (thankfully), so why were you so compelled to have to mention that your senator was Mormon?
Please, for all of our sakes, let's keep focusing on why most of us are here: to share information about Fukushima and nuclear power and its devastating effects.
Personal attacks (or not-so-subtle jabs) at someone's religious, ethnic, cultural, etc. heritage just brings down the quality of this site.
Thank you.
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Boxer is concerned w safety of San Onofre restart in recent PRs.
Fuku .. no statement yet. Wish she'd get on her Boxer box in support of Wyden. I have called her office.
Maybe will call again.
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Does anyone know of a family that has changed locations in anticipation of the FP4 failing? Or a family that has moved because of what has already happened?
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if one representative comes out of the fuku closet per year;= 1×500= 500 years. in 500 years we will have a majority consensus that fuku is leaking radiation and some of it is getting here. and since we have four billion years until #238 gets to h/L, there is still time to act even 500 years from now.
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