Hot spots at 1,400% baseline radiation levels on San Francisco-area coast — State: It’s “naturally occurring materials not radioactivity associated with Fukushima” — Expert: Don’t let babies or kids inhale or eat the sand

Published: January 8th, 2014 at 12:20 am ET
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Half Moon Bay Review, Jan. 7, 2014: […] Fukushima Daiichi […] is not the cause of abnormally high radiation levels discovered recently along Surfer’s Beach, according to an analysis by independent experts. But exactly why a swath of the local coastline is showing about 14 times the baseline radiation level remains a curious mystery. […] El Granada electrical engineer Steven Weiss grabbed his own radiation measurement equipment […] He tested various spots: the side of the bluffs and the white sand closest to the waterline, both registering levels that were high […] a line of black silt along the back of the beach […] registered about 415 counts per minute. A cpm of 30 is considered the baseline for radioactivity typically found in the air. […] he took a sample of the dark sediment and sent it to his company’s main offices in Sebastopol for analysis [which found] radium and thorium […] The radiation scare followed a constellation of other alarming news [like sea stars] mysteriously disintegrating along the West Coast […] simulations had indicated that radioactive cesium-137 from the Fukushima reactors could begin appearing on West Coast shores by early 2014.

California Department of Public Health spokeswoman Wendy Hopkins, Patch, Jan. 7, 2014:  “Recent tests show that elevated levels of radiation at Half Moon Bay are due to naturally occurring materials and not radioactivity associated with the Fukushima incident” […] CDPH has collected and will be analyzing sand samples from Half Moon Bay. Results of the analysis will be released as soon as the analysis is completed possibly sometime this week […]

Dan Sythe, CEO of Geiger counter maker International Medcom, Patch, Jan. 7, 2014: “The levels detected are about five to 10 times what you would normally expect to find on a beach” […] Whether this material is naturally occurring at this beach or not remains a question […] “There are reports that a pipeline was once at this location and oil pipelines can collect heavy radioactive minerals” […] err on the side of caution with young children and babies “to make sure they don’t inhale or eat the sand” […] [Sythe] hopes the state will do further testing to determine the origin and full nature of the hot spots […]

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177 comments to Hot spots at 1,400% baseline radiation levels on San Francisco-area coast — State: It’s “naturally occurring materials not radioactivity associated with Fukushima” — Expert: Don’t let babies or kids inhale or eat the sand

  • First, the truth will come out on the west coast, then it will spread

    US Gov Admitting Findings of Uranium all over Alaska, in the Food Chain

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/us-gov-admitting-findings-of-uranium.html

    • GOM GOM

      Exactly. When everyone starts seeing all this death themselves, when they are no longer able to ignore it, panic will set in. Maybe even a stampede off the west coast. Stay tuned..

      • Usefulbreather

        I lost a close friend today to Pancreatic Cancer at age 51. He was healthy as a horse this time last year. It is happening now whether the media wants to believe it or not.

        • artika rama

          usefulbreather But thats the thing usefulbreather , a cnacer here a birth defect there , it all goes unnoticed . Even if today , the cancer rates would double overnight, just like that 100% increase , would people like you and me notice anything ? Not really . Well an aunt may got a cnacer or a neighbour may die of a chronical disease , and everyone will keep thinking , "oh well , its faith " nothing to do about it .
          Well , IT IS NOT ,, we KNOW for the fact that the more radiation we have in our environment the more people will die from cancer and all those diseases,, but there is NO way we can prove that THAT SPECIFIC PERSON , like your friend for example , died because of an isotope produced in a nuke plant etc etc . That is why its so difficult to come up with scientific data to beat this evil.
          My condolances for your friend.

          • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

            The only way for us simple primates to see the aggregate is to do the count & throw it on a chart (or just do the same mathematically). Otherwise we can only see our own little personal experience.

            Odd how many places have stopped counting since 3/2011.

        • artika rama

          usefulbreather Well , what a coincidence to prove my point ,, just read the text below my message , by socref,, thats what we are dealing with .

        • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

          Sorry for the loss of your friend today, Useful Breather. There is too much sickness around at much lower ages than we saw 25 years ago. It's weird. My husband tells me at work people do talk about something being obviously very wrong. (They lost a 40 year old boss to brain cancer last year. Started out as skin cancer that metastasized.) My friends OTOH, refuse to talk about it, perhaps staying positive due to mothering instincts? They'll wear the pink ribbon on their clothing though and that's as far as it goes.

          I gotta say, though, I noticed the numbers were off before Fuku. In the town I was in cica 2006, I had my own struggles w/cancer but not either of these. Women in their 30s were struggling w/breast and reproductive cancers in frightening numbers. For a while it seemed we'd hear a new name afflicted every few months. So scary. I don't know what to blame but it's gotta be environmental. This with the skyrocketing numbers of learning disabilities.

          Denial: 2.5+ yrs ago, my Dad who had been having increasingly poor memory issues for years had to collapse and have a seizure before they did the tests to find out what was going on. A brain tumor the size of his fist. Everyone wrote his struggles off to age. Even his wife. Denial is man's Achille's heel. When you can't face the danger, the danger eventually overwhelms.

        • NoNukes NoNukes

          I am so sorry for your losses, Usefulbreather and Phil Shiffley.

    • socref

      Doesnt mean it came from Fukushima. Uranium is a naturally occuring substance. Thanks.

    • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

      @stock: "First, the truth will come out on the west coast, then it will spread

      US Gov Admitting Findings of Uranium all over Alaska, in the Food Chain

      http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/us-gov-admitting-findings-of-uranium.html "

      That testing was done on an island where nuclear bombs were tested. So, it doesn't mean much in relation to Fukushima. But, where is all the testing that should be done in Alaska, Hawaii, and Along the Pacific Northwest?

      • Agreed, should be testing going on. But they don't want that, they want calm sheeple to shear so they don't have to put them in the FEMA camps.

        Sharp uptick in uranium and PU in that study compared to prior years….done in June 2011, not really in the critter yet, except the bottom dwellers getting hit hard, horseshoe mussel and urchin.

    • socref

      Any uranium from Fukushima would have already been detected in Alaska a long long time ago. Do you have proof of uranium in Alaska? THis is not Geiger readings.

      • Funny you mention that. You obviously are not keeping up with the real news.

        Please review this Gov data from Alaska June 2011.

        http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/cd134-cs137-ratio-and-food-chain-in.html

        • socref

          Nothing about uranium and 185 keV.

          • Trying reviewing a little deeper. Read the report.

            “…* Uranium-234 — 3.854 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
            * Uranium-234 — 5.312 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
            * Uranium-234 — 3.466 Ci/kg Gull egg
            * Uranium-234 — 4.96 pCi/kg Chiton
            * Uranium-234 — 9.344 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
            * Uranium-234 — 7.885 pCi/kg Rockweed
            * Uranium-234 — 4.906 pCi/kg Greenling
            * Uranium-234 — 2.304 pCi/kg Halibut
            * Uranium-234 — 58.721 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
            * Uranium-234 — 8.86 pCi/kg Irish Lord
            * Uranium-234 — 7.127 pCi/kg Octopus
            * Uranium-234 — 4.976 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
            * Uranium-234 — 4.644 pCi/kg Rockfish
            * Uranium-234 — 3.032 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen
            * Uranium-234 — 3.906 pCi/kg Sea Urchin

            * Plutonium-239 — .039 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
            * Plutonium-239 — .186 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
            * Plutonium-239 — .104 pCi/kg Gull egg
            * Plutonium-239 — .298 pCi/kg Chiton
            * Plutonium-239 — .093 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
            * Plutonium-239 — .084 pCi/kg Rockweed
            * Plutonium-239 — .379 pCi/kg Greeling
            * Plutonium-239 — .038 pCi/kg Halibut
            * Plutonium-239 — 4.194 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
            * Plutonium-239 — .378 pCi/kg Irish Lord
            * Plutonium-239 — .036 pCi/kg Octopus
            * Plutonium-239 — .05 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
            * Plutonium-239 — .279 pCi/kg Rockfish
            * Plutonium-239 — .152 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen
            * Plutonium-239 — .195 pCi/kg Sea Urchin
            * Plutonium-240 — .039 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
            * Plutonium-240 — .106 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
            * Plutonium-240 — .069 pCi/kg Gull egg
            * Plutonium-240 — .149 pCi/kg Chiton
            *…

            • socref

              The hundreth of pCi/kg range would be normal for the ocean since uranium in very large quantities is all abound in the sea. People have been talking about mining uranium in the sea for decades. How do you know that this comes from Fukushima?

            • socref

              You didnt cite your methodology or assumptions. You havent validated it against a control measurement.

              • LOL – the "Academics" have done such a wonderful job of protecting us. I am citing a expansive government survey, duh!

                • socref

                  Protection is not the responsibility of a report but by the people in the field. Its hard to ask them to protect anyone when a 50 ft wall of water is barrelling down at them in the cross hairs. Heck for that matter its a wonder anyone stayed with clean underwear.

                  In reviewing the transcripts of 3/11 I think it was politicians that made it worse, Nato Kan in some sort of Alexander Haig "Im in charge" moment gone awry

                  • No—- protection is also the job of the policy and strategy setters.

                    The workers in the field can't be effective if they dont have the right tools and rules.

                  • AllenH AllenH

                    Only you would deviously sight something else to obsequor yourself intentions to those who pay you. And NO MATTER how hard you try, you will not convince us here otherwise. Ersehole, so try find another burrough.
                    Leave this site Deamon!!!

            • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

              That testing was done on the Island of Amchitka BECAUSE from 1969 to 1973, several nuclear bombs were detonated in testing on and under Amchitka island.

              We should all be surprised not to find some excess Uranium and Plutonium in the environment there. That's why they test there, but that's neither here nor there in terms of fukushima radioisotopes hitting beaches. For that, one would want to test on a beach where an atomic bomb was not previously detonated.

              Both Socref and Stock should know this but continue to argue.

              • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                Here's the link to nuclear testing on Amchitka responsible for (at least much of) the Uranium and Plutonium found on its beaches and wildlife:

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amchitka

                • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                  Of course, Amchitka is on the southwestern tip of the Aleutian Islands, and thus is very close downwind of the jetstream from Japan.

                  But, because nuclear bombs were detonated there, those tests don't mean much compared to the ones that aren't and haven't been occurring on pristine beaches and other places, post 3-11.

                  • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

                    Anyway, back to the article:

                    Regardless who calls 14 times background radiation "natural," if those radioisotopes can be shown to cause cancer at that level of radiation, AND if they can be included in the known list of carcinogens under California's Proposition 65, then private citizens might be able to collect settlements for failure to warn while forcing business owners on those beaches to post warnings.

                    Strangely I couldn't find any radioisotopes on the list of carcinogens under Proposition 65, so maybe the nuclear industry got an exemption under CA law or maybe someone believes there is federal pre-emption by NRC over such warnings. That might be worth challenging if it hasn't been already?

        • socref

          By now you have obviously Googled "uranium" and "185 keV" to understand that this gamma energy is THE signature or fingerprint or DNA for uranium and that any absence of this signature would signify an absence of uranium. There is no other way to confirm the presence of uranium with a multichannel analyzer and a solide state detector other than by chemical analysis which is not as reliable.

          • Thats your rabbit hole.

            You are trying to create a defensible position out of thin air (or no air to be exact).

            Not buying it.

            I cannot believe you argue against a preponderance of evidence. Can only be taken as lies and an intent to deceive.

          • My goodness, socref. How could there be an actual "absence" of uranium signature anywhere in the oceans of this planet, or on land? One might even get the distinct impression that something is greatly amiss if said signature were in fact MIA from any physical sampling of per-liter, much less meters cubed.

            Why doesn't that ring an alarm bell in your head?

  • petfish

    “Recent tests show that elevated levels of radiation at Half Moon Bay are due to naturally occurring materials"

    Total BS: Somebody should look at the old dump site at Surfer's Beach. Bet some illegal dumping was done.

    Arg

    • mairs mairs

      Did you read this part from above? […] Whether this material is naturally occurring at this beach or not remains a question […] “There are reports that a pipeline was once at this location and oil pipelines can collect heavy radioactive minerals”

    • JimLynch JimLynch

      AND, while you are looking at that data anyone want to help me dredge up the info on the 50,0000 nuclear waste containers dropped all over the SF and oceanside of the Farallon Islands in the 1950's?—–they ought to be nearing the end of their 40 year cask life right? http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/farallon/radwaste.html

      • bo bo

        JimLynch – Never mind cask life, they shot holes into those barrels of plutonium because they wouldn't sink into the ocean.

        Sorry I keep repeating this enenews.. I still can't fathom it.

        • Just following orders…….ouch

        • bo bo

          When I started following enenews, I still didn't know my plutoniums from my cesiums… so for those of you just starting to uncover this (from enenews contributor Dr. Goodheart):

          2 grams of cesium is enough to contaminate about a square mile; that is the size of dime. Plutonium is much worse.Cut the dime into 100 pieces. One of those pieces is enough to contaminate a small town. Grind it up into dust, and take a couple of pieces of those pieces of dust.. Blow that into the house, and it is enough to contaminate it.If any normal person does this, wouldn't this be called a terrorist act, a murder attempt or both?But when the nuclear industry does this with a couple thousand TONS of plutonium, cesium, and 1200 other goodies, and that gets spread out over the whole world, what happens?

          • bo bo

            And if anyone is interested, here is a visual on how a scientist NORMALLY handles plutonium in a lab.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89UNPdNtOoE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

            While that sounds drastic, in perspective even that tends to minimize the problem. A tiny particle, small enough to float like or on dust is enough to kill one person. Let's say ten random, innocent, not-involved people die as the result of some industrial accident. Natural gas line explosion for instance. There would be an investigation and those responsible would be held accountable.

            It only takes one particle tiny enough to float in the air to kill. How many were released by the reactors at Daiichi? Each one is a bullet.

  • Ontological Ontological

    Why the hell didn't they report this BEFORE the change in limits!? Oh cuz back then the sand would have to be disposed of in lead boxes. Too expensive.
    Cause to this spike is no doubt 47k barrels of Cesium they dumped offshore from SF.

    http://enenews.com/wsj-plutonium-levels-1000-times-normal-on-seafloor-50-miles-from-san-francisco-appalled-major-nuclear-dump-offshore-is-a-health-threat-said-expert-47000-containers-of-radioactive-waste-in-a

  • Paid liars, telling lies, living lies, without honor or truth…

    …yep, network asset, bought and paid for with soul.

    Fukushima Research blog on articles and videos since 3-11-11
    http://dailymessenger.blogspot.com/

    • rakingmuck

      uwantsun That dailymessenger article was one of the best I have ever read and a must read for anyone not familiar with the techniques shills.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Well, I am not paid. But I guess I do dilute the blog some. Sorry. I really don't contribute all that much scientific reasoning. But I do not have faith in our ability to deal with this. I am overwhelmed. There is so much I want to say. I am bound by a confidentiality agreement by my workplace. And it seems so odd. The company I work for just wants to protect itself from competition, I guess. So many companies are doing that, it's like, insane. Reading my employee handbook, it is said that there is no differentiation between my personal self, and the company. I guess my employee self. So I guess I must tone it down. I think I will find that very hard to accept and comply. I guess I will no longer be really me, just to have a job. It makes me think about those who have a job that is really important and what they have to sign, just to work. Put that food on the table. SSSShhhhhhh

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        No differentiation between my personal and employee self when it comes to social media. Just clarifying.

        I mean really? Really?

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          I remember Donald Rumsfield responding to questioning about how DynCorp was never put in a "time out" for running a sex slave operation. He said it was just a few employees, bad apples, if you will. I am having some cognitive dissonance about this employee-personal thingie. ingie. zingie. dingy. pingy. ringy. dingy.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          I am borg. I have been assimilated. I must be polite and courteous and all that. Surely no topic must be discussed that is of a controversial nature. Transitioning…must learn some recent football stuff. Joe Namath? Bradshaw? Man am I old. Ummm Fukushima Blizzards. Not football. Uh. Hanford Hannibals? What is my favorite team? How bout them pretty girls? No, I could never talk sports…Music, uh. How 's that song go? Zip it. Zip it good. Huey Lewis? I forget. With out nuke bashing I am nothing. I give up. It was nice talking with you fellas and gals. I WAS HERE. Scratching that into the screen was harder than it looks.

  • charlie3

    They admit that they don't have the test results yet, but they assert that they can still state that the radiation isn't from fukushima. Scientists? Shills.

  • We Not They Finally

    Ah, now it's "a curious mystery"? Did they run out of "puzzled" and "baffled" and "befuddled"?

    Nice added touch with "naturally occurring," however…

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    The EPA are wasting our tax money, fire them & all of us could spend a week on vacation & have 1 million each left over. The waste they are is sicken many folks & cost use 50 billion jobs with their bull shit rules & regs they never follow. We are the laughing stock of the world & it starts at DC!

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Yeah, not associated with Fukushima .. just like the melting starfish, two-headed whale, disappearing sardines, and other species die-offs.

    Weird stuff is being found every week, and all found in the path of nuclear radiation.

  • onedman

    New here, been reading for a while now…thanks to everyone here for educating me, it means a lot to be…that being said I just have to say that scenes from Mad Max come to mind with every new post…I'm old, 62 and won't see it but I feel it in my soul…be safe, be kind

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    State: It’s “naturally occurring materials not radioactivity associated with Fukushima”

    Hummmm…so this is the baseline? Naturally occurring??

    So then, as everybody knows, radiation is accumulative. What is it going to be like when the added radioactive isotopes show up from fukushima? Think it is actually coming??

    http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2947

    We are all seeing more atmospheric radiation FROM FUKUSHIMA added to the historic radiation in our locals, and causing surges and higher Geiger-counts. Gee, will it ever disappear? Or, is that a non-issue?

    .

  • fgf

    wetpwcas1 wrote:
    > The EPA are wasting our tax money, fire them & all of us could spend a
    > week on vacation & have 1 million each left over.

    Actually the EPA budget for FY 2013 was just under $ 8 billion, which is
    about $25 per US citizen per year, or around $75 per US family per year.
    Hard to take a week of vacation on that amount…

  • Lichens in Alaska were tested in June 2011 and had extremely high levels of both Cesium 134 and Cesium 137. Around 6000 to 8000 pCi/ kg.

    And the ratio of 134 to 137 was around .8. What that means is that all of this cesium is directly attributed to Fukushima.

    Here is how it works. CS137 has a half life of 30 years, CS134 has half life of 2 years. So if the radiation was from 4 years ago, the CS would fall to around 25% of where it started.

    It just so happens that the 137 and 134 quantities are about a 1 to 1 ratio at the beginning, with some variance based on the degree of fuel burnup. Color chart below shows actual test results for Fuku. The ratio was about .85.

    The actual ratio measured in the lichens was right around .80 on average. So all of this is due to Fukushima

    Got it? The lowest level of the food chain is highly contaminated. That was 2011, they are not planning on testing again until 2016. Does that make any sense?

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/cd134-cs137-ratio-and-food-chain-in.html

    • We Not They Finally

      Well said. CS 134 will always show recent fissioning. Such new tests would be very revealing. And see if there is I-131 there as well. Apparently, radionuclides around Fukushima DO show new fissioning.

      The public is so mis-educated. So many people think that o.k., this happened in 2011 and that was it. C-134 and I-131 are direct proofs that that is not so. The same for radiation counts that escalate in time, not go down.

  • We Not They Finally

    Now they are saying that OIL pipelines are radioactive? That that is what dangerously radioactive nuclear power plants were there to "save" us from?

    Then what will save us from the NPP's? Solar flares?

    • Ontological Ontological

      The Canadian oil was saved for later. They wanted to "develop new technology" to make is less miserable to process. Well we all know that all they did was deregulate the laws. Oil sands crude is a tad warm NORM wise. They wanted to remove them but too expensive was the final call, so they forced the farmers off their land, or used eminent domain to build the pipelines down to Louisiana refineries. Eventually after mega millions of barrels flow through them the lines will become hotter with rads. Big oil can do no wrong apparently.

  • Colinjames

    The EPA, like many agencies, are full of earnest people who care about the public interest, it's the bosses, the political cronies, upper management, who fuku it up under political pressure, and can't do much if they want to keep their jobs. Not to mention the outrageous policy of creating the snitch culture to discourage whistleblowers in govt. That said, if someone us aware of serious malfeasance and/or a threat to public health they have a responsibility to a higher cause. n Not letting myriad people die and suffer. Might help if there were more jobs around that people weren't so worried about holding on to theirs.

  • I started a petition on Whitehouse.gov to try to draw more public awareness to this. Ya, I know the white house knows all about it 🙂 https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-war-fukushima/WMhKF3yc

  • bo bo

    Naaaaah not to worry! Not fukushima ! Just barrels of plutonium we dumped offshore San Francisco bay a while back, oh yeah, and we did shoot holes into those barrels because they wouldn't sink… that might be it !!!!

  • AllenH AllenH

    I am not sure who done this, but it is perfect for the occasion:

    http://bayimg.com/HAGMeaafE

  • Homo Insapiens Homo Insapiens

    That is fantastic.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The authorities have admitted..the radiation contamination rate..
    Deny the cause or not..we have baseline..
    Keep testing folks.

  • Homo Insapiens Homo Insapiens

    A good point. Want to call this normal? Ok, fine. Call it normal. You've got your baseline against which to compare future measurements at the same location, using the same technique. If in the future, it rises above what you claimed, back on January 8, 2014 was normal, and you've got a difference, try to sweep that under the rug. Baselines are valuable.

    • Homo Insapiens Homo Insapiens

      The use of the word "you" in my previous post was unclear. I didn't mean "you" = "Heart of the Rose". Please substitute the word "folks" for what I intended. Also I know about Reply, just haven't had coffee yet. 🙂

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Markww, another great link! 🙂

    60+ years of lies and secrets continue on, as the entire Nuclear Contaminated World is now one giant massive scientific experiment gone bad, causing many billions of/in biological species to suffer horrible deaths! 🙁

    Shut these people down..all of them.. and their Nuclear Technology! 🙂

  • Sickputer

    The first of many discoveries to come of high radiation levels On the Beach.

    With thanks to G. Strait for this slightly modified chorus:

    "I got some ocean front property in San Francisco
    From my front porch you can see the sea.
    I got some ocean front property in San Francisco
    If you'll buy that, I'll throw the golden gate in free.

    SP: Pro nuke forces are huddled planning their public disinformation campaign…their jobs and pensions are more important than the health of humans. I understand their angst, but market forces are in play that will supercede their reluctance to admit the extent of the Fukushima poisoning of the world.

    Soothing words…"natural radiation". Bad words…killer toxic Fukushima nuclear fallout.

    Yeah, if you'll buy that I'll throw the golden gate in free."

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "[…] Fukushima Daiichi […] is not the cause of abnormally high radiation levels discovered recently along Surfer’s Beach,…"

    Ever watch a movie or a tv show, and at the end a young boys voice says, "I made this!"

    Kind of like that

  • Daisy207

    There has been no "since Fukushima" – Fukushima is an on-going problem and will be for eons – with the future being potentially much worse than the initial event. Also how can anyone say that it is not related to Fukushima when they don't even have their chemistry back yet – and please publish a table of the data and a map of where the samples were collected – and have the metals analyzed in mg/kg if solid and mg/L if liquid and then calculate the Bq's emitted per radioactive component analyzed – and please include components such as iodine, cesium, plutonium, uranium, strontium etc., and all their isotopes as well as a full tritium analyses of the water. Fat chance any of this testing will occur. Its a good thing public education has kept the public so stupid and that 70% entering college have to take remedial math and English.

  • Nick

    Baseline radiation.

    Like we ever really get a good number, as in pre-nuclear era.

    I have a hunch that the nuclear cabal is frantically in over=drive trying to con the planet for a few more years.

    Problem is, I'm not sure we have that much time.

    Any man-made radioactive atom is ONE too many.

    I will go to my grave pointing out that fact. But the nuclear quacks will continue to spew their utter nonsense.

  • ftlt

    2000 tons of nuclear material was dumped near the Farallones Islands, 30 miles off the Golden Gate following WW2 up until the 1970s.. Quite near San Mateo Co. – plus, the coastal ocean current runs that way from the Farallones Islands too

    The San Mateo county does have some radon spots as well.. (outdoor readings on a beach (subject to wind)is highly unlikely though)

    Wondering, if these samples are from a large area?

    There are other naturally occurring and pollution radioactive reading possibilities in California too..

    But seeing how the West Coast has been subjected to 3 years of FUFU radiation, it seems like the ball is the "natural radiation" claimant's court to prove any radiation readings are natural occurrences..

    If it is FUFU… There will be plenty more readings to come..

    This is a hyped news story at this point.

    Note*** El Granada was/is the site of the Pillar Point Air Force Radar Station and one time airbase.. Pollution from it is a possibility as well…

    • artika rama

      fttt Nuclear industry has been dumping nuclear waste into the sea from the beginning , for decades now. Its well known , i am sure everyone must have seen greenpeace fighting in tiny little boats against huge ships dumping barrels of radioactive waste into the sea. Infact most nuke plants are near big bodies of water NOT only for cooling purposes but also for dumbing waste . They dont even hide it .

  • Tiza Tiza

    There's a RADCON-5 Alert in an IL area, it looks like. Check out http://www.netc.com/

    Well, if it's still there.

  • JMR

    I know this is a little off-topic for this thread, but what ever happened with fuel rod removal from SPF 4? We heard about the first supposedly successful removal, but then after that the silence has been deafening? Am I not looking in the right places or is there a media blackout, or did they stop for some reason? Anyone here have any links or info you can provide?

  • Nick

    JMR
    SPF4 was a shell game.

    In the greater scheme of things it was a moot point. One of many.

    Do you really think anyone anywhere can safely dispose of nuclear fission scat?

    Think FUBAR.

  • cooterboy

    Well I'm all confused now. Before it was the "paint on the red plastic utensils". Now it's naturally occurring, which is more sensible but begs the question of why now, or has this been the case all along? Lets be real here it just didn't appear overnight.

    The State of California has the equipment and personnel to accurately test for radiation. But to turn this information over to the NRC, behind closed doors, is unconscionable. The state can come to their own conclusions and present this data to it's citizens. Why have this data scrutinized by the NRC. Data is data. Scientific protocols are just that.

    The NRC needs to put a spin on anything radioactive, because it is in the NATIONAL INTEREST to protect it's citizens. Hogwash! What happens at the NRC, stays at the NRC.

    Call in the clowns, there's a circus in town. Dorthy and Todo will soon appear.

    Peace,

  • Sam Sam

    Socref says he is here to learn though it is so obvious he is hear to
    dissemble lies and more lies couched in scientific jargon. He has
    attempted to take over this site as the master educator and arbiter
    of scientific truth. When he says he is doing research on where
    people are sourcing their info he is being more than just a shill–
    sound like he is being employed by NSA to collect data. In the
    olden days he'd been tar and feathered and run out of town.
    His goal is to destroy the integrity of this site. Won't happen.
    If his heart was in the right place as he wants to be seen as steeped in scientific
    know how then why does he not put his collective resources together
    and run a laboratory testing for nuclear residues in all things. I am asking
    too much since he believes there to be NO RELEASE OF URANIUM AND PLUTONIUM
    FROM FUKASHIMA. WHAT A WASTE OF A BRAIN!
    Go back and play some more soccer and hit the ball with your head.
    Maybe it will wake you up.

  • petfish

    Hey this is were we used to live. Pamela gathered some of the "black" sand back in 2000 for art pieces. We had brought some of it to Maui. We measured it on our Geiger counter (Inspector model). It read 90-120 CPM which is~ 3-4x background.

  • Cisco Cisco

    The military industrial complex, supporting NGO's like the UN, IAEC, WHO, UNSCEAR, and dozens others, have written and reported a false history of nuclear development. They have effectively suppressed proven, documented research from their inception and have virtually rewritten the history of "nuclear" that promotes nuclear proliferation as an acceptable risk.

    They stand by their falsely concocted "official" documents and research. Who's to question? These documents are published by the highest standing NGO's in the world. To the general public as well as the MSM, who readily accept their distortions amd misinformation, the nucleocrats' dogma becomes palatable. It's easier that way (don't have to think or question the obvious), and they believe safer, too. Nobody in the MSM loses their job for going along with the "official" dissemination of the nuclear cabal's predictions and prognostications.

    A theory:
    Shills like socref are testing some of our responses to his pat assertions, trying to identify good objections that the nucleocrats can counter with, or to. Engaging this pathetic soul only helps in his data mining/research. These folks are deep, and they are working the turf nearly everywhere you turn.
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  • We Not They Finally

    We as Chis Busby are also horrified absolutely by evidence that we are losing our Ocean..I fear we have wasted too much time and face the inevitable…There are some possibilities left but it will take Courage that those who have been taking us all down show no sign of the courage to go for it…Give up this future you have struggled to get and go back and change it all….If this is possible????Now is the time.other wise ..So be it.

  • deadeyes deadeyes

    Perhaps the California Department of Public Health can explain to me why I`ve been having nosebleeds.skinrash,and recently hairloss.

  • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

    Hi to all! I'm back and full of bile after a much-needed X-Mas/New Year's break.

    "elevated levels of radiation at Half Moon Bay are due to naturally occurring materials and not radioactivity associated with the Fukushima incident"

    W to the T to the F?! Wait, so you guys have run tests already, but still can't confirm shit? Good work, good work.

    "Whether this material is naturally occurring at this beach or not remains a question"

    Tell us what this mystery material is already! Why are they mincing words and avoiding mentioning even one specific radioactive element. That's right, let's just censor it make it PC for everyone in case someone gets offended or starts panicking at this alarmist news (because it's f**king alarming is what it is!).

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    This is so interesting and it grows everywhere around here a natural dosimeter. Spiderwort

    While we’ve discussed just a few of the many supplements and protocols you can use to help detox the body of the lingering results of radioactive contamination, including the residues of depleted uranium, the last thing that might be of interest is that there is a plant that is a natural geiger counter. The spiderwort plant is so sensitive to changes in radiation levels (its petals change color upon exposure) that it’s often used as a natural radiation detector (dosimeter), just as they use canaries in mines as detectors of poisonous gas. Some people like knowing that they have an ongoing monitoring system for radiation in the environment, and this is just another tip available in "How to Neutralize the Harmful Effects of Radiation or Radioactive Exposure."

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