IAEA expert predicts radioactive cesium will be carried across Pacific to West Coast of U.S. and Canada in one or two years

Published: May 5th, 2011 at 1:31 pm ET
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Workers enter Japan nuclear reactor building, AP, May 5, 2011:

In Vienna, International Atomic Energy Agency expert Hartmut Nies predicted traces of Cesium 134 and Cesium 137 leaking from the plant will be carried by the Pacific’s Kuroshio current to the North American coast within two years.

“We expect that in one or two years it might be measured at the coast of Canada or California,” Nies told reporters.

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55 comments to IAEA expert predicts radioactive cesium will be carried across Pacific to West Coast of U.S. and Canada in one or two years

  • Northern Exposure

    “It will be carried across the Pacific in one or two years” ??!

    Are you kidding me ?

    What the hell is this dummy talking about ? It’s been carried over for 7 weeks now… or hasn’t he been paying attention to the readings outside of his own backyard ??

    In one or two years, the readings will no longer be “very low” (as it is currently) due to the accumulation of long-lived isotopes such as cesium and strontium. Those little suckers are going to pile up, as we are now starting to see already in some parts of the west coast.

    Jeezus, it’s been a steady low-dose flow in the jetstream for weeks.

    *slaps forehead*

    What a braindead twit.


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    • kx

      maybe he means the actual cs 137 in the USA is from USA plants.


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    • Pensacola Tiger

      He is referring to cesium in the water, not the air. The millions of gallons of radioactive water that is flowing into the Pacific will take two years to circulate to the west coast of the US.


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      • Anthony

        uhmmm our seaweed had the iodine within days really in the direct current we are in BC from Japan! I bet IF THERE WAS ANY TESTING GOING ON HERE that we could verify the cesium and other friends are already here. It will be here in the fish poop of the tuna and others and maybe in the whale urine etc. You can`t really pollute only one area of an aquarium… all your system will die usually.


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      • Northern Exposure

        Like I said, he’s wrong.

        Fish along some parts of the west coast have tested positive already, as well as seaweed.

        The friggin current has nothing to do with the lifecycle and migration of sealife.

        And besides that, it doesn’t take 2 years for the ocean currents to move along the conveyor belt.

        This guy is an idiot spouting verbal vomit.


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      • Flo

        @ Pensacola Tiger

        Are you smelling sulfur in your neck of the woods and seeing hazy skies?

        We were at the southwest gulf beaches this week and noticed a difference in the sky/air. Felt like we were breathing in a high altitude area.


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      • xdrfox

        The whole Pacific has been laced with these Isotopes as well as all contaminates in the path of the Jet Stream, now the waters that were highly contaminate may be a while in coming to our shores but will reach others first !
        Fish swim faster then these currents and their mating will bring them to their feeding grounds as well as the mating grounds all over the Pacific and beyond, and many will be eaten along the way adding to the mosaic of this perpetuating disaster !

        Fishing villages that have not a clue will fall prey to the elements as well as them that indulge on seafoods collected from foul waters not known to fishermen !

        This is going to be a inter woven kaleidoscope of sources and victims man and animals across the globe !


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    • Heart of the Rose

      Radiated water .will make the loop current..around South America…to join the rest of the death swill in the Gulf of Mexico..to stall there or to dump into the Atlantic.
      http://www.yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtml


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  • Anthony

    Given that everything in the mix was vaporized and jettisoned into the air, I just assumed with already had here what they have in Japan. Continuously and constantly – indefinitely. But something inside me tells me they are reporting this for some reason…


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  • Is he joking? Does he think people are that naive?

    The reason he says two years is because TPTB know that in two years, none of this will matter. Either a total economic collapse will occur and it will be a Mad Max world, or an asteroid will wipe out half the earth, or both. Either way, they know that something catastrophic is coming and as long as they can push things along for a few more months, they will be able to prepare their underground bunkers. How’s that for a theory?


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  • Buck-O

    This is a positive statement for the IAEA. At least they “admit” the radioactive elements are going to flow with the currents instead of denying everything! Oh! but wipe the radioactive dust off the IAEA crystal ball. They have projections of low doses reaching the west coast. Not to worry, no reason to check the fish for radioactivity, the FDA says it is of no concern to them under their guidelines.


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  • this is simply a repost of someone else’s post indicating that Starosta was not testing for Cesium on April 9, 2011. We do know from EURAD that we have been getting midrange levels of Cesium here on the West Coast of N America since the whole thing started. Also, confirmed deposits of Cesium in strawberries and mushrooms in N California. Iodine in seaweed around Vancouver was at 400% the other day.

    http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=en&VAR=euradsfc&HH=0

    Alex Smith
    April 9, 2011 at 12:30 am · Reply
    In this week’s Radio Ecoshock show I interview Kris Starosta, the Simon Fraser U Prof who took the measurements of Iodine 131. He says they have not yet tested for cesium as that takes more time. They will be testing for it, and expect to find it, as a common agent coming with radioactive iodine.

    But Starosta says he thinks the measurements are so low, they are not a threat. However, as he say, he is not a medical doctor.

    My other guest, Dr. John Large, cautions against letting scientists determine what is “safe” radiation for you.

    1 hour radio program “Fear and Loathing in Fukushima” here:
    http://www.ecoshock.net/eshock11/ES_110408_Show_LoFi.mp3

    Blog with links here:
    http://www.ecoshock.info


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  • My take on this AP article, as reported in the washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/workers-enter-damaged-japanese-reactor-building-for-1st-time-since-right-after-quake/2011/05/04/AFRxlItF_story.html?nl_headlines

    What the article does NOT say is what unit they were able to enter.

    The article does say that reactor 1 is going to be flooded and that they hope to flood reactors 2 and 3.

    So, that leaves 4, 5 and 6 as possible buildings that were entered.

    Well, reactor #4 had no fuel at the time of the earthquake because the fuel had been removed to the spent fuel pool. The pool at unit 4 is now believed, but not verified, to be smoking (it could be steam).

    Reactors 5 and 6 never had significant problems according to the official account. So, if the workers just entered reactors 5 or 6 for the first time, can we then presume that they both did, in fact, have unreported problems?

    Also disconcerting in the story is the report about the radiated debris in the ocean that are going to hit the US west coast in 2 years. Here is an excerpt from the story:

    “In Vienna, International Atomic Energy Agency expert Hartmut Nies predicted traces of Cesium 134 and Cesium 137 leaking from the plant will be carried by the Pacific’s Kuroshio current to the North American coast within two years.

    “We expect that in one or two years it might be measured at the coast of Canada or California,” Nies told reporters.

    But the detected levels would be “very low” and there were no specific concerns, said Denis Flory, an IAEA deputy director general.

    Majia Here: Please note that the person who says that the detected levels would be very low when reaching the US (Denis Flory) is not the same person as who was quoted as making the prediction about when the debris would hit the west coast (Hartmut Nies).

    For me, that means that Nies probably disagrees with that conclusion and would not go on the record making it so that meant that the director of the IAEA, a very pro-nuke agency, had to step up to make the reassuring prediction.

    Links for fuel pools
    http://lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/fukushima-daiichi-reactor-4-fire-may-3-2011

    http://enenews.com/report-fukushima-daiichi-unit-4-fire-video


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  • Noah

    Help for Families with children
    Apple Pectin and C-137

    Quote from “The Future Children of Fukushima” by Joe Giambrone Published on Counterpunch 03May11

    “The parents of northern Japan had best investigate Dr. Bandashevsky’s dietary recommendations. He’s found that apple pectin helps remove radioactive cesium-137 from the body.” 



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    • Noah

      Cesium and the food chain

      Radioactive cesium bio-accumulates in the food chain due its chemical similarity with Potassium. All living things need and utilize Potassium and readily absorb it from their food or environment. Due to Cesium’s similarities chemically to potassium, it follows the potassium pathways into the tissue of living organisms.

      Radioactive C-137 is therefore a concern when it comes to the food supply as it accumulates in plants and animals that ingest/absorb it.

      C-137 disrupts many functions of the human reproductive cycle and results in still births, spontaneous miscarriage, deformation of the developing fetus, etc.

      Bikini Atoll became uninhabitable due to bio-accumulation of Cesium within the Atolls food chain. It remains unpopulated to this day.

      Here we have identified one of the primary problems produced by the 311 event. Through time, the active Fukushima nuclear volcano will continue to lay down radioactive Cesium in the entire ecosystem.

      We need to take aggressive counter measures to protect ourselves from this potassium imposter, Cesium.

      In the above post: “apple pectin helps remove radioactive cesium-137 from the body.”

      Protective Strategy
      Important Recommendation

      Begin to use apple pectin daily to assist in removing this harmful metal from your body.

      Mrs. Noah daily feeds me Red Delicious apples (pealed for protection from I-131 that might be clinging to the skin). This is in addition to apple pectin in capsules taken daily.

      Apple pectin is one of the many supplements you can take for protection from radioactive fallout. Apple pectin works well removing C-137 in particular. Hence, its great value.

      Please refer to previous posts, by others, that list other excellent recommendations and protective/cleansing strategies.


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    • Noah

      Quote from ehow

      “Foods such as cilantro, chlorella and pectin, most notably apple pectin, are used for chelating toxic metals such as mercury and lead from the deep tissues and bones and removing them through the elimination system.”


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      • Noah

        Do Not Despair
        Help is on the way

        When we pray sometimes the answer takes a while to arrive. Like a package in the mail, it takes time to arrive. The answer may be on it’s way, but not yet in your mailbox.


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  • bcbud

    sickening disinformation


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  • mikael

    Moust of the radioactivity function at a cellevel, and to highlight it, a chils has a higher mutation rate than adults, if one is past 50 your chance to get a cancer by the ongoing fallout, a very serious illness, is infact small.
    (well, so far)
    If your circumstances are dire, let the children get the detocksic food.
    Children are the ones in the danger zone.
    The ugly truth is that this one is going to affect us all, and some of us harder, and to downplay it, now that the seriousness is confirmed, is only fooling oneselfs.
    Be carefull, and start to implay simple precausions actions against dawnfall.
    And above all, educate your self, the moust important thing to do.
    And in Scandinavia 25 years later, it still is a problem, and still recuires medical treatments.
    Take care.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    This tells me that maybe in one or two years, is when we might be noticing what the radiation is doing.

    Who knows when they will be restocking the grocery shelf’s with food that was picked and produced after March 11, 2011.

    For now, I believe the grocery stores might be getting some of the food stock that has been stored in the warehouses before the disaster, but soon that has to end.

    I could be wrong in this, I hope I am. This is just a guess.


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  • xdrfox

    WindorSolarPlease
    “been stored in the warehouses before the disaster, but soon that has to end.”

    You are right, but don’t delay for some crops will not be coming in this year so smaller stock piles !


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi xdrfox

      Quote: some crops will not be coming in this year

      I can see that happening.

      My cousin lives in southern Illinois as they were driving on Route 45, the only road open to get in or out of Harrisburg. She took pictures on both sides of the road.
      The farm fields look like huge lakes now.
      If I knew how to post pictures, I would.


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      • xdrfox

        @ WindorSolarPlease
        wave, Yes and crops had already been planted, will be quit a while before they will be able to get into those fields again, mud mud after the water goes down, don’t have enough good weather for a second crop up there. Few had crop insurance, may lose their farms for no income for bills, already incredibly hard on our independent farmers.

        : (


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      • xdrfox

        different area last month April 16, 2011
        North Dakota epic flooding – the new norm for America’s bread-basket?

        NORTH DAKOTA – The Red River reached a preliminary crest at 49.87 feet on Thursday at Grand Forks and continues to spread out across regions north of the city, reaching eight miles wide or more at Oslo, Minnesota, which has become an island amid the swells, the National Weather Service said on Friday. The Red River forms the North Dakota-Minnesota border, flowing north into Canada. A tributary system stretching from southern Canada and South Dakota feeds into the main Red River as it reaches toward Lake Winnipeg in Manitoba. “We will be dealing with flood issues throughout April and well into May,” said Greg Gust, a U.S. National Weather Service warning coordination meteorologist. “It will be a long time before we push the last of the flood waters across the Canadian border.”At just under 50 feet, the Red River crest at Grand Forks was the third highest on record and three of four bridges are expected to stay closed at least well into next week. “Water is still pretty high through town here, things still blocked off and buttoned up,” Gust said. Grand Forks and neighboring East Grand Forks, Minnesota, have permanent flood barriers that have protected them from the near-record crest, leaving the focus on communities nearby. North of Grand Forks, Interstate 29 that runs parallel along the Red River in North Dakota was closed for 24 miles. The interstate was just opened north of Fargo in recent days. Complicating efforts on Friday, storms dropped up to 8 inches of snow in the area west of Fargo and lesser amounts in Fargo and northwest Minnesota, the weather service said. North Dakota farm officials said Friday they were concerned that the snowstorm could create conditions similar to those that killed tens of thousands of cattle in other flood years.
        http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/15/us-weather-flooding-idUSTRE73E8G920110415
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSLxrbGCzkQ&feature=player_embedded


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      • xdrfox

        April 17, 2011 – WASHINGTON, DC – The president of the World Bank has warned that the world is “one shock away from a full-blown crisis.” Robert Zoellick cited rising food prices as the main threat to poor nations who risk “losing a generation.” He was speaking in Washington at the end of the spring meetings of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Meanwhile, G20 finance chiefs, who also met in Washington, pledged financial support to help new governments in the Middle East and North Africa. Mr Zoellick said such support was vital. “The crisis in the Middle East and North Africa underscores how we need to put the conclusions from our latest world development report into practice. The report highlighted the importance of citizen security, justice and jobs,” he said. He also called for the World Bank to act quickly to support reforms in the region. “Waiting for the situation to stabilize will mean lost opportunities. In revolutionary moments the status quo is not a winning hand. “It’s probably too much to say that it’s a jobless recovery, but it’s certainly a recovery with not enough jobs,” he said. “Especially because of youth unemployment… there is now a risk that this will be turned into a life sentence and that there is a possibility of a lost generation,” he said. -BBC
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13108166

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyUOzlWCjJM&feature=player_embedded


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      • xdrfox

        Many Southern States have worse drought in Histoy this month !


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    • Global warming is also reducing yields.


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  • Anthony

    Interesting program on Discovery Channel tonight about the Japan Nuclear Crisis.


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  • xdrfox

    Sunday, May 1, 2011
    Mysterious Cattle Deaths Continue in Spasskiy District, Russia
    The cause of these deaths remains unknown; however, the activists connect it with a recent gamma irradiation experiment of the seeds in the region. The affected animals develop muscle weakness, start limping, and at the end die.

    A representative of the environmental protection activists has visited one of the affected villages and asked the villagers about these cases. All 3 respondents have had a dead cow in their farm. They have said that the same situation exists in their neighbor’s yards. There are no official statistics available for these fatal cattle cases.

    A local veterinarian considers that the…
    http://thecomingcrisis.blogspot.com/2011/05/mysterious-cattle-deaths-continue-in.html


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  • I hate the fact that there are hungry children anywhere in the world, but when I think about the fact that here in the richest country in the world, we have too many hungry families, it just makes me want to cry.
    Now there is a way for the average person, like you, to help make a difference for hungry children
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  • Someone was asking for this:

    This from the Alexander Higgins blog:
    http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/19/japan-officially-orders-censorship-of-truth-about-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-disaster-18502/

    Japan Orders ISPs to Remove Non-Government Fukushima Content
    [my made-up headline]
    —————————-
    “The supposedly free democratic nation of Japan, which supposedly values and promotes freedom of speech, has officially issued orders to telecommunication companies and webmasters to remove content from websites that counter the official government position that the disaster is over and there is no more threat from the radiation.

    The government charges that the damage caused by earthquakes and by the nuclear accident are being magnified by irresponsible rumors, and the government must take action for the sake of the public good. The project team has begun to send “letters of request” to such organizations as telephone companies, internet providers, cable television stations, and others, demanding that they “take adequate measures based on the guidelines in response to illegal information.” The measures include erasing any information from internet sites that the authorities deem harmful to public order and morality.

    Source: Asia Pacific Journal


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    • Anthony

      How can Japan POSSIBLY suggest that the disaster is over? This insight is into the minds of the people who have OUR HEALTH and SAFETY in their hands. For our governments to NOT step up and protect us is a kind of genocide. My empathy for Japan is morphing into something else. Of course with the absence of our testing over here, Kan can make a case for his ridiculous perspective.


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    • Deetu 3

      “Illegal information” ….now there’s a concept…


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  • Heart of the Rose

    Japanese officials=cowards


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  • Chernobyl killed nearly one million people and counting, according to the New York Academy of Sciences. Yet the IAEA attributed a mere 4,000 or so. Let’s remember for whom they work, and it sure isn’t us.

    Or giving them the benefit of the doubt that the winds won’t function normally crossing the Pacific in 5-7 days, they must have mean to say that ONCE Fukushima is entombed, if ever, Cesium will continue FOR one or two years. But even that statement is inaccurate.

    So the question is, are they lying Or do they just not understand radioactive isotopes and wind distribution?

    My decision was made March 14. Since my food isn’t yet grown in a green house and none of us will outlive the half life of these toxins, we will all be eating contaminated foods.

    The only solution is to make your body as robust as possible by detoxifying all radioactive elements and decontaminating soils.

    The truth exists no matter how many lies we’re told.
    There are many inexpensive solutions each of us can choose to take, or we can revert back to fantasy land and pretend everything is good.

    http://www.natural-health-home-remedies.com/radiation.thm.


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    • Percy

      Correction: the New York Academy of Sciences had nothing to do with the research on Chernobyl that you are referring to. They only made it available through publishing it online. “The Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences issue “Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment”, therefore, does not present new, unpublished work, nor is it a work commissioned by the New York Academy of Sciences. The expressed views of the authors, or by advocacy groups or individuals with specific opinions about the Annals Chernobyl volume, are their own.”


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    • xdrfox

      Chernobyl District
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant_Exclusion_Zone

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_(city)
      CRDP works in the four most Chernobyl-affected areas in Ukraine: Kiev Oblast, Zhytomyrska Oblast, partially Kiev, Chernihivska Oblast and Rivne Oblast.


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    • Deetu 3

      …just like the “views” of the nuclear industry.The New York Academy of Sciences is not known to publish specious reports and disinformation.


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  • Tricky Dick

    “Let them eat Plutonium” : Marie Japanette.


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  • psky

    The temperature rises in the reactor 3
    2011-05-06 http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/atomruine-fukushima-die-temperatur-steigt-1.1094315

    240 degrees Celsius prevail in the reactor 3 of the Japanese Fukushima nuclear power plant, and rising. The situation is highly dangerous: There is no Plan B for cooling the reactor does not exist.


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