Impossible? Worst-case scenario prompted gov’t to send reinforcement to Fukushima plant — “We could not even announce the fact that we compiled such a simulation” -Top Official

Published: January 29th, 2012 at 9:31 pm ET
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Title: Hosono urges towns to aid disposal effort
Source: Kyodo
Date: Jan 30, 2012

Nuclear disaster minister Goshi Hosono was one of the few lawmakers who was shown the secret worst-case scenario for the Fukushima crisis, which was buried to avoid “confusing” the public. [...]

The scenario said that the Fukushima No. 1 power plant’s damaged No. 1 reactor would explode again and that the spent-fuel pool on top of the No. 4 reactor would dry up and allow the fuel rods to burn, sending more toxic fallout into the atmosphere.

Hosono claims the worst-case scenario “was not a possibility in fact”.

Yet, according to Kyodo, the scenario “prompted the government to brace for unforeseen trouble, Hosono said. For example, the government sent nine concrete pumping vehicles to the No. 4 reactor so it would not dry up“.

Of the preparations prompted by the worst-case scenario, Hosono said, “It was not wrong to prepare for the worst cases, based on the scenario.”

More from Hosono about the secret worst-case scenario:

  • “If it had been made public at the time, it is likely that no one would have remained in Tokyo”
  • “It would have caused trouble regarding the government’s handling of the nuclear crisis”
  • The scenario was examined by only a few key lawmakers in and was not shared even with the Nuclear Safety Commission “because we wanted to prevent gossip from spreading”
  • “We could not even announce the fact that we compiled such a simulation”
  • [He] recommended that [Prime Minister Kan] “be prepared for the worst possible scenario, just in case”

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42 comments to Impossible? Worst-case scenario prompted gov’t to send reinforcement to Fukushima plant — “We could not even announce the fact that we compiled such a simulation” -Top Official

  • or-well

    It could and it couldn’t
    it didn’t and did
    he wants it both ways
    whatever he says
    it’s cake and then fishguts –
    both sides of his mouth
    he shows what he is
    every time he speaks out
    denial plausible
    truth always on pause
    disdain undeniable
    for people and laws
    another corrupted
    government lout
    safe in the castle
    of ruling class
    one complete asshole
    talking out of his ass
    he ought to have people
    flipping their lids
    and nailing his balls
    for all that he did
    and he didn’t
    he could but he wouldn’t
    act to keep kids
    safe from the monster
    of nuclear IDs.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      WATERGATE WAS NUTHIN’ but it might have set a precedent ….

      NOW IT TURNS OUT THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT HASN’T KEPT ANY MINUTES OF DISASTER RESPONSE MEETINGS SINCE THE 1995 KOBE EARTHQUAKE!

      http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2012/01/japanese-government-hasnt-kept-any.html

      From X-SKF Blogspot:

      MONDAY, JANUARY 30, 2012

      Japanese Government Hasn’t Kept Any Minutes of Disaster Response Meetings Since 1995 Kobe Earthquake
      It was only 4 days ago that Japan’s PM Noda said “it is regrettable” that there were no minutes kept for the government response team’s meetings ever since March 11, 2011 earthquake/tsunami/nuke accident.

      Then it turned out that Miyagi Prefecture and Iwate Prefecture didn’t quite keep record of their disaster response meetings either.

      Now it turns out that the Japanese government hasn’t kept any minutes of disaster response meetings since the 1995 Kobe earthquake.

      NOW IT TURNS OUT THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT HASN’T KEPT ANY MINUTES OF DISASTER RESPONSE MEETINGS SINCE THE 1995 KOBE EARTHQUAKE!


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  • StillJill StillJill

    They want us to feel sorry for them in their ‘disbelief’. Don’t even go there,…..what’s that called when the captive feels the feelings for the captor?


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  • StillJill StillJill

    I was taught a hard and confusing lesson a few decades ago. I was told to ‘hold onto my anger’. This was very confusing as I said,…and yet freeing as hell. I did. I held onto my anger long enough to see lady JUSTICE. Then,….I fell apart and started taking care of myself.

    This is a MONUMENTAL TIME to HOLD ONTO YOUR ANGER JAPAN.


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    • Dogleg Dogleg

      I had a friend who had to take anger managment classes. One day when I was angry he tried to enlighten me with his newly learned anger managment skills. He said “Dont let your anger controll you”. I replyed “I dont. I let my anger controll others!”


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      • GMOfood_RAD_Death

        Self imposed death sentence.
        Someone with the same philosophy + experience, will clean you clock.

        Look deeper into life and truth.


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        • Dogleg Dogleg

          Wasnt trying to come off as a badass. My Point is anger is an effective motivater. I dont think it is healthy to hold onto emotions either.


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          • GMOfood_RAD_Death

            Hey,

            “effective motivator” is correct. TEPCO motivator is money, greed and power with, greased political hand outs. $$


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          • Fall out man!

            Hi Dogleg, I take your point, and there is a place for anger at evil men, especially at this kind of murderous evil. That said, that reminded me of some proverbs worth bearing in mind…

            Prov 16:32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city. (KJV)
            Prov 22:24-25
            24 Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
            25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul. (KJV)

            Its normally more productive to stick to the facts rather than feelings. Feelings are subjective and as such easily countered. In the case of the Nuke industry, the facts are against them. The facts , rather than emotions, are what will really strike a blow against them.

            That said, yes, its quite legitimate to have a calculated and controlled anger against the Nuke industry and its paid liars who have cause the deaths of countless millions of people through their lies and pollution.

            Pro 25:15 By long forbearing is a prince persuaded, and a soft tongue breaketh the bone.

            I have been caught out on one occasion when asking a question in an angry manner of a politician. He was able to express anger (in a pack of lies) in response. Afterwords it occurred to me that if I had simply asked the question without that element, as a question of absolute amazement at what was going on, I would have had the blighter cornered. As it was, he was able to feign righteous anger himself.

            Prov 25:15 is worth bearing in mind with such a difficult topic as the absolutely murderous misinformation being spread to cover over the nuke power industry’s crimes.


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            • Fall out man!

              I’m just waiting for Spok and Kirk to weigh in on this topic now :-)


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            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Fall Out,

              ‘Have to agree. Bridling the tongue and controlling one’s emotions can be very difficult when dealing with this kind of situation.

              And would add,

              James 3:2-4

              2For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body. 3If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we guide their whole bodies as well. 4Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. 5So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things.

              This applies to all of us!


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  • Hosono LIES. That’s all he ever does!


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  • GMOfood_RAD_Death

    Welcome to mind control 101.

    Guess I need to read these “news” tid-bit releases again, in order to get a better bearing on just where this is leading to.

    Mixed fruit, anyone?

    : )


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    They have said, “worst case scenario but we didn’t want to cause panic” so many times I’m convinced it WAS the worst case scenario and people should have run for their lives.


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  • GMOfood_RAD_Death

    And truth does exist.

    Rev 11:18 [...] and [I] shouldest destroy them [those whom] which destroy the earth. {destroy the earth: or, corrupt the earth }
    (KJV)

    Kick butt will be swift, and everlasting.


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  • kintaman kintaman

    Will those in power go unpunished for destroying Japan?? There is no going back. This is beyond treason or terrorism, this is self destruction of the nation. Why has no group taken action to arrest and confine those guilty and force them to do manual work at the reactors? This is my ultimate wish.


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  • Fall out man!

    Talking of “worst case scenarios” Potrblog has a very interesting post about a recently released scientific paper looking at the formation of persistent nano particles formed when uranium comes into contact with salt water that can help transport the nanoparticles over long distances. They make the point that this makes Fukushima’s fall out particularly dangerous in that nanoparticles from fukushima will be more mobile as a result.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=454uu96gFzU&lc=ZM1dZ7dT2KDTlpXYQBnbTZ6JNStETa6Cb9QVtw3JOdk&context=G263153fFAAAAAAAAGAA&feature=g-all-c

    So adding salt water to the reactors to save them from a greater melt downs and explosions at the opening of this man made disaster appears to have caused a new problem. It makes the uranium (and anything else picked up with these salt water created nanoparticles) much more readily transported around the world.

    According to Potrblog that is not something that anyone has been accounting for, and how serious this is will only be known in many years to come.


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  • GMOfood_RAD_Death

    Ever notice that a very tempting “offer” was rejected… only to be “accepted” by others.

    Get a grip, folks.

    Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; […] ((delivered unto him) Get it?)

    Luke 4:7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be (yours). {worship me: and, bow down before me}

    Luke 4:6 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

    The Global banking Sys … .. … (sorry we have lost our signal .. …. .. ) _ , .. ,.

    ..


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    • CindyH

      A big PLUS 1

      (Spell check) … “+ 1″ and then some.


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    • radegan

      What Jesus did NOT say was: “Devil, you can’t give away what isn’t yours to give.” Remember that the next time you think about politicians worth hundreds of millions.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Actions of governments and those in power = unconscionable. Important to keep it in perspective! There is a spiritual component to world events.

        Eph 6:12-13 “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.”

        The world awaits restoration (by God) of perfect creation, & man living in harmony with & submission to, God. Had man not been deceived & CHOSEN to try to make himself God, we’d not be in this predicament. We live in a fallen world. Sta

        Rom. 8:22 “For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now.”

        2 Tim 3:1-5 (New Living Translation) “1You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. 2For people will love only themselves & their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, & ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. 3They will be unloving & unforgiving; they will slander others & have no self-control. They will be cruel & hate what is good. 4They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, & love pleasure rather than God. 5They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly.” Lucifer has possessed earth’s “title deed” since the Fall of Man; but not forever. Jesus Christ will reclaim it. Satan will have access to God until he is cast down into the bottomless pit, forever.

        (Parenthesis = explanation, not in the text)

        Gen. 3:15 (NASB) I will make you (Satan) and the woman (mankind) hostile toward each other. I will make your descendants and her descendant hostile toward each other. He (Jesus) will crush your head (Satan), and you will…


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          This is a pretty long commentary. If one can put world events into this context (that events are part of a greater spiritual struggle) then it all begins to make sense. Current world events fit PERFECTLY into the context of Biblical prophecy. Esp. 2 Timothy 3:1-5

          Now I need to stop as to continue would be O/T!


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          (Parenthesis = explanation, not in the text)

          Gen. 3:15 (NASB) I will make you (Satan) and the woman (mankind) hostile toward each other. I will make your descendants and her descendant hostile toward each other. He (Jesus) will crush your head (Satan), and you will bruise his (Jesus’) heel.”

          Note Satan’s head will be crushed, but Satan will only bruise Jesus’ heel.

          I Corinthians 15:55 All that thanks to Jesus Christ we might say,

          “O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?”


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  • dear jones

    They have said, “worst case scenario but we didn’t want to cause panic”
    So that their family and friend can run awawy first.


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    • CindyH

      I recall they, (Gov, industry, media) claimed we were “protected” from PANIC, back in July 2011.

      I feel a sense of comfort and protection while I (we) are spoon fed lies, and guidance.

      (How come I never received any of the money (benefits) from this effort.

      I’ll check my bank account tomorrow.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    In one month, it’ll will be a year since Fukushima. 1 YEAR!! Now we’re supposed to feel sorry for these guys? Not on your life. They should be strung up and HUNG! More and more I’m thinking this just might be true. Nano Particle Evidence Shows Fukushima Might Be Part of a Depopulation Agenda http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/28/nano-particle-evidence-shows-fukushima-might-be-part-of-a-depopulation-agenda/


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  • Very little has changed since Chernobyl blew up and radiated everyone, except that many more nuclear accidents, meltdowns, melt throughs and ‘accidental’ radiation releases happened, plus way more radioactive substances are now in the air, on the ground and in the ocean as well as inside all of us.
    How many radioactive elements and isotopes are released from something like Fukushima, some of which eventually end up inside all of us?
    According to Asahi: about 1,000 kinds of radioactive materials have been released from Fukushima reactors. http://enenews.com/asahi-sources-reveal-about-1000-kinds-of-radioactive-materials-released-from-fukushima/comment-page-1#comment-195658
    Let’s focus on just 93 out of the 1,000 total, shall we? There are 93 different long lived radioactive elements that hang around and pollute both the environment and us for at least 17,000 years and up to BILLIONS of years in total decay life. Want to see the list of all 93?
    http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/3069680
    This is what we can tell our kids that we left this all for them to clean up, once we are gone, because there is no way we can clean up this mess. The best we can do is shut down all of the nuclear reactors. But that does not clean up the mess we made.
    The Egyptian pyramids are only 5,000 years old, and the Bible is about 2,000 years old.
    How much sense does it make to heat water for only 30 years with radioactive ‘fuel’ that blows up and melts down (creating huge non livable zones for 50,000 years to 5 Billion years?
    Do we really want our future generations of kids and grandkids to have to deal with the radioactive leftovers from the spent fuel, laying around for billions of years, just so we can have hot water TODAY?
    Do we REALLY want our kids and grandkids for infinite future generations to pay for the storage and guarding of these dangerous, terrorist inviting waste products?


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    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

      Dear Green: Thank you very much for that link. Most people in the non-ENE world still tend not to realize that fallout is incredibly diverse and in human time terms, forever toxic in intensely diverse ways. Thank you, again.


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    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

      Dear Green: You lead to me to keep considering and thinking of plans for the future for preserving biodiversity and for how humans will have to live in order to perpetuate ourselves into the future as far as possible–in a humble manner with full nearly absolute equality–no more greedy (psychotic) folks running things. Some brainstorming (not deeply sussed out) ideas include and are not limited to: Humans will have to live in domiciles, communities that are high density and sealed off from the outside world where we constantly test our drinking water for radiologic contamination among other problems, which is also used for all farming, which food production must also be all indoors and many hundreds of times more efficient than current farming methods of any outdoor variety–lots of very well known technologies and food sources for this purpose long have existed. We will need to live sealed–airlock system indoors in order to not lose uncontaminated H20 which we are intensely dependent upon on our new, thanks to radioactive fallout, hyper desert planet. Fortunately, there are, for water that has no radionuclides in it, methods to recycle even blackwater that work quite well based, loosely on reverse osmosis. However, getting water to the state where it has no radioactive substances in it is the tricky part. It means relocating to areas with fossil water. I believe, with great behavioral and lifestyle changes (that aren’t all bad, just culturally jarring) that there are STILL enough resources to steward all non-human species AND keep all, not a select few as the billionaire psychopaths envision, alive. I have to get ready for school; but just wanted to throw this out there. I will suggest it later (probably to no effect) to admin that we have a forum category, for big-picture strategizing for dealing with nuclear fallout cataclysm in the register of worsening anthropogenic thermal maximum and associated mass extinction.


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  • “reactor would dry up and allow the fuel rods to burn”

    But the fuel rods “did burn”, criticality everywhere, they simply did in large and small piece’s laying all over the plants vicinity after the explosion that carried much of it high into the air but much of it fell to the ground burning as much as a mile from the plants !

    All them piece’s and particles were not in water after that !
    Who’s to day they did not blow it up to keep it from burning in place or allow the hydrogen to build to allow it to blow ? Seeing a burning fuel pool would have ….as article states !

    “If it had been made public at the time, it is likely that no one would have remained in Tokyo”
    “It would have caused trouble regarding the government’s handling of the nuclear crisis”
    The scenario was examined by only a few key lawmakers in and was not shared even with the Nuclear Safety Commission “because we wanted to prevent gossip from spreading”
    “We could not even announce the fact that we compiled such a simulation”
    [He] recommended that [Prime Minister Kan] “be prepared for the worst possible scenario, just in case”


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  • Replacant Replacant

    If one of the worst case scenarios is Spent fuel pool 4 drying up and burning and the reports that the past few days the pipes froze feeding that specific fuel pool then this would not be a “Cold Shutdown” nor a stable situation.

    Worst case has happened and now how bad the situation is from contamination from the “nuclear” explosion of spent fuel pool 3, the MOX fuel pool is being covered up. That explosion spewed plutonium all over the country side and they have found plutonium what 40km away? So what happened to the bore samples showing yellow cake Uranium under the reactors already outside the containment meaning a total melt through, this isnt worst case? http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/breaking-news-whistle-blower-talks-container-vessel-is-melting-like-honeycomb/

    The Japanese government is talking like its over and we should all move along, even Chernobyl is not stable after 25 years. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fears-over-new-leak-at-chernobyl-spark-plea-for-radiation-shield-2227550.html#


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