Gov’t Report: Elevated radiation on California coast to last “several decades” — Local marine life “will accumulate” Fukushima radioactive material — Plutonium a potential concern — “On-going monitoring clearly warranted” yet ‘surprisingly little’ underway (VIDEO)

Published: May 21st, 2014 at 5:09 pm ET
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California Coastal Commission (State of Calif. Natural Resources Agency), Apr. 30, 2014:

‘Several Decades’ of Fukushima Contamination

  • “The most recently reported measurements of radioactive cesium in North Pacific seawater indicate that the Fukushima plume is beginning its arrival off the west coast of North America. […] It remains uncertain exactly when, and at what concentration, the radioactive plume will reach the California coast […] Once the radioactive plume does reach California, concentrations of radiocesium are predicted to increase to peak values between 2016 and 2019, declining gradually thereafter over the next several decades.”

Plutonium Concerns?

  • “Fukushima releases were dominated by gases and volatile fission products [...] with little of the [...] primary nuclear fuels (plutonium, uranium) [...] long-lived nuclear fission products of potential concern include isotopes of strontium and plutonium [...] a very small amount of plutonium may have been released to the atmosphere”

Marine life/Seafood

On-going Monitoring?

  • “[S]urprisingly little research effort has been devoted to [the potential for dangerous levels of contamination] in California. […] Outside of Japan, ocean monitoring of Fukushima radiation has received much less attention and support from government agencies […] neither the U.S. federal government nor the state of California is currently testing for Fukushima-derived radiation off the California coast.”

Watch a discussion of this report at the last Coastal Commission meeting here

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195 comments to Gov’t Report: Elevated radiation on California coast to last “several decades” — Local marine life “will accumulate” Fukushima radioactive material — Plutonium a potential concern — “On-going monitoring clearly warranted” yet ‘surprisingly little’ underway (VIDEO)

  • Ontological Ontological

    "a very small amount of plutonium may have been released to the atmosphere”

    So getting this lie straight, PU was mentioned, and I am to presume TONNES from a detonation of R3's core, constitutes a very small amount that may have been released?

    Psychobabble.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGhOW3DLlow


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  • Daisy207

    They can monitor but they can't find anything because, because, because – what if the property values fall or people move? Where will the taxes come from. But – what if they all get sick – who will pay the taxes and the health care costs? But – what if they all die? Who will pay the taxes then? We are a sick species.


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  • davidh7426 davidh7426

    Ooops!!! Typo -

    "declining gradually thereafter over the next several decades."

    should actually read…

    "declining gradually thereafter over the next several millennia."

    —–

    At the time of the mass extinction that marked the end of the dinosaurs ( the K-T Extinction ) there was layed down in the rock a fine layer of meteoric Iridium.

    When / if another race comes to this planet, and searches for answers about the mass extinction that destroyed huge swathes of life, they'll find a layer within the rock comprised of transuranic's and the by-products of their decay.

    A sad epitaph for the human race that had such huge potential, but traded it in for greed, apathy and mass stupidity.


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    • Homolumina Homolumina

      Not the human race – I object and refuse ! I did not sign up for this nor was I even asked ! It is them, to be specific it is the US military boyz club who is responsible for what we have to endure now. It is the alpha males in power who are not initiated and therefor disconnected from life, but power and control driven, aggressive, territorial, competitive, goal oriented – all the typical characteristics of not initiated males ! Initiate men again and all the crap ends right then ! If not – let's watch our demise, NOTHING will ever change.


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      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        Nuclear weapons are like the wedding at Cana

        "The supply of nuclear weapons can seem endless.

        NuclearWarheadRemember the story in the Gospel of John from the Bible’s New Testament about the first miracle of Jesus Christ? To refresh your memory, Jesus attended a wedding with his mother and disciples (what, he couldn’t get a date?), in a village called Cana, which may have been in Galilee in northern Israel. When the wine ran out, he converted containers of water into wine. John also told us about the miracle of the loaves and fishes, which entailed Jesus feeding thousands with five barley loaves and two small fish.

        The U.S. government can be pretty miraculous, too. It’s demonstrated a capability to perform a similar act to Jesus, but with nuclear weapons. The more they disappear, it seems, the more magically others reappear to replace them."

        http://scholarsandrogues.com/2014/05/21/nuclear-weapons-are-like-the-wedding-at-cana


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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          PS.. "like the wedding at Cana"
          Ya.. it's their lover and wife.


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          • VanneV VanneV

            And how many other countries have nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. Why forget to mention the rest of the long list staring with Russia and China and extending out to all the other nations which already have nuclear technology and all those who will have nuclear technology in the near future? It is Japan and Russia and China today who are leading the proliferation of nuclear technology worldwide now that the Japanese own Westinghouse and Hitachi-GE.


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        • VanneV VanneV

          Comparing food to nuclear weapons? Nothing miraculous about the production of nuclear weapons. The miraculous creation of food is the opposite of death. And Hillary won the primaries for the Democratic nomination in 2008 because she spoke out against nuclear energy. The majority of the US is against nuclear weapons and nuclear energy. They are also against fracking and use of fossil fuels including coal.


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  • Nick

    I expect more insanity in homo-sapiens as waves of decaying atoms wash against the shores of the West Coast of the USA.

    People wish that this shit would just go away.

    Unfortunately, if you have a brain pan and a few residual functioning brain-cells, you will realize that radiation is, for all pratical purposes, forever.

    Thus, you will swill down a stiff drink and go home and tell your wife that you are moving east.

    Sorry California, but your claims to organic produce are poppy-cock. The wayward atoms from Japan have forever f'd with the sunshine state.


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    • KidIcarus KidIcarus

      Stiff drink? Not a bad idea. I live in California. But, as my long-term girlfriend said to me when I brought up moving, "where are we going to run TO?" I think our entire world is past saving.


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      • KidIcarus KidIcarus

        So I plan to die here, unless the universe has other plans for me.


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      • I would freakin' move.

        How about to a place with clean free ground water.

        And good soil

        And laws that are for the most part respected in both directions.

        And lower cost of housing and land

        And great fishing.

        A 2.5 acres homestead for $250K, and 10 minutes from every sort of shopping you need. and a great symphony, museum, zoo, harbors, parks, fresh foods, awesome music festivals….

        And to live a normal life on $40k a year…..

        Location held confidential to prevent all of California from moving here, LOL


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    • Ontological Ontological

      WIPPed and Corexited, with mutant food in the North Atlantic the USA East coast is. I'll stay here and die thanks. Oil tar to the North fracking of the air here, Gulf oil to the South, Radioactive hell in the Pacific to the West. I know when I'm screwed. Perhaps a nice cozy hidey hole in Coober Pedy in the Aussi outback? Even there will be a nice place to freeze to death in the icy cold oxygen robbed stinking mass the atmosphere will soon become. Oh yeah and it ain't JUST California my readings here in S NV are setting the alarm off at 30 way to often. And the station across the valley has a high of 40. That dose from outside air is 22 ave, or 450 CPM direct, not good. I got my skull cancer pathological data. It was micro invasive carcinoma. Fuel flea anyone?? When the "plume hits" OMG!


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    • Seraphine Seraphine

      Clearly the answer is mass numbers of transorbital lobotomies.
      "No brain, no pain!" –Pet Sematary II


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  • Nick

    Question:

    How many Californians realize what lies ahead?

    Or Washingtonians? Oregonians? Canadiens?

    Folks, once the aqueous plume "hits" you will feel it.

    If Unit #4 had a fire last night, I give you 5 days to reckon with reality.


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  • RaDiaTed JeWeLz RaDiaTed JeWeLz

    What are some things that us on the W. Coast can eat and or do right now to protect ourselves for the incoming plume in a couple of days?
    I'm in Eugene, Oregon; I'm not sure of the levels already here; it seems that no one is monitoring it around here or even aware that it is happening!


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  • West Aussie

    I get lost for words at times, sitting here in Perth, WA. The horrifying implications of this cataclysm are too much to bear at times. It's like you've already been executed but haven't died yet. Like it's that cliche about watching a slow motion train-wreck. You can see all the destruction and death but you feel a detachment which is even more terrifying because it comes from the realization that you are indeed helpless in this situation.
    It's not like those ruined reactors are just going to melt away into nothing. They are melting away to be a planet-wide mortal threat to all living creatures. These are not 'normal' elements. They are energy packets, liberating their energy by spontaneous atomic decay, that can interfere with cellular life all the while they are decaying. Each and every one of those hot particles will be a potential death trap while they are active, which, as we know, will be hundreds of thousands of years for some of those particles.
    I'm just gobsmacked by it all. We can't stop this contamination from getting worse because no-one/corporation/government wants to take responsibility for the decommissioning/clean-up of any of these stations. Too expensive.
    So we, instead, will just have sit in a radioactive soup getting sicker and sicker while the elite will move into orbit around the earth in their satellites. Planning their next journey.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    NUCLEAR RADIATION CARRIED BY JET STREAM . . .

    And dropped by rain across America and beyond .. doesn't stop at west coast.


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  • Sickputer

    There will be global fallout consequences from the recent fire at Fukuzilla, but temper the expectations of anything worse than the Northern Hemisphere has already experienced from dozens of major release days in the past 3 years. This event might rank a 4 on the nuclear scale…to be determined.

    Fukushima NPP is (was) one of the largest nuclear complexes in the world. There is plenty of radioactive material still left to be converted into global fallout. 1700 tons of fuel, fissile and in storage.

    When there are forty foot flames visible for ten straight days like at Chernobyl then be very afraid. Because this plant has 10 times as much fuel as the single reactor that burned at Chernobyl.

    Unit 4 burned fiercely at Chernobyl. The attempts to snuff the fierce fire involved helicopter dumps of non-liquid elements…sand, lead, boric acid. In hindsight the Soviet fears of a water table explosion were probably unfounded based on what has happened at Fukushima ( many days of radioactive steam events, but no explosion copious amounts of cooling water. The Soviets should have taken notes from the Windscale fire 30 years earlier in which the Brits were fearful of a nuclear water explosion, but decided to use water cannons to extinguish the fires.

    At Chernobyl the Liquidators (hundreds of thousands) fought the melted core for months and six months into the event drilled down and discovered a huge corium mass they named the elephant's foot.


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    • Sickputer

      Cont..

      The Japanese have been very reluctant to use those drilling methods to find the coriums. Workers will get severely sick, some would die.

      But not locating the coriums is a very bad decision in my opinion. They have probably condemned most of Japan to levels of radiation in the soil within ten years that will be an order of magnitude greater than the toxic soils of Belarus.

      The failure to locate and contain the three missing coriums will also have far reaching consequences on the Pacific ocean ecology. A billion humans depend on the ocean for food. Those sea life food sources will become scarce as species rapidly become extinct from the toxins.

      Tepco and the Diet have failed their country and failed the world. The disaster was their fault and their lackluster response in the aftermath smacks of genocidal behavior.


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    • It is still possible to have a HUGE explosion at Fukushima. Time will tell.

      It is all up to the coriums now.

      If they are melting their way to the lava layer inside the Earth, who knows what will happen, when they get there?

      SO many unknowns, so many things can still go very wrong.

      Odds are rising of more bad things happening, due to TEPCO not even wanting to know where the multiple melted out coriums are..


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  • Greedy nuke puke is pushing hard to dump 53 million gallons of nuke waste 1/4" from the Great Lakes, absuridty at it's best, including lying scientists. Whores of nuke, who can make a living doing something else, but they choose to be Whores Of Nuke.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/20/lake-huron-nuclear-waste-underground_n_5359955.html


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Is lithuania considered very far from Fukushima?

    Because very little, "primary nuclear fuels", fell there…

    Plutonium From Fukushima Detected in Lithuania

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2012/01/plutonium-from-fukushima-detected-in.html

    The bigger "very little primary nuclear fuel" particles fell a bit closer.

    Fukushima Farmer: Plutonium was detected “all over” village 25 miles from plant — Professor: “Something terrible, dreadful happening” — Mayor: Please don’t tell this to the residents (VIDEO)

    http://enenews.com/fukushima-farmer-plutonium-detected-all-village-professor-terrible-dreadful-happening-radiation-levels-high-mayor-please-dont-residents-video

    Daily News: Plutonium found outside of the Fukushima power plant, and Homer Simpson being censored.

    http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/daily-news-plutonium-found-outside-of-the-fuk/blog/33993/

    And let me be perfectly clear…

    "a very small amount of plutonium may have been released to the atmosphere"


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  • jamesofthecommons

    The US government,via MSM will as long as possible, attempt to conceal the scope and severity of the Fukishima meltdowns.The US,as well as much of the rest of the industrialized world,is governend either directly or by proxy by corporate elites who hold fast to the Straussian neo/conservative princible, that it is better to mantain sociopolitical and economic order by use of myth and outright lies,than it is to risk loss of control, anarchy and change by allowing truth to be made public,when that truth is not expediant to the purpose of social control.In more simple terms,the western world is run by neo facists who value money and the power brought by money,over all else, and they will lie and commit all sorts of crimes against humanity in times of crises and not, in order to maintain power.Its just that simple.


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  • SadieDog

    I was thinking… If we (Newsers) got our wish and a solution to Fukushima was found tomorrow, and all the nuclear waste was rocketed into space. What would happen the following day? I really gave this some thought and came to the conclusion that nuclear stock would go through the roof and multiple plants would be planned for immediate construction. The greasing of the palms and other parts would continue as if Fukushima were a dream. :( I have no punch line or ending. We are destined to destroy ourselves.


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  • charlie3

    They say:
    "a very small amount of plutonium may have been released to the atmosphere”
    I say:
    "Tell us exactly how much plutonium may have been released and we will decide if it is a very small amount or a very large amount for ourselves.


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  • jamesofthecommons

    Recently, a news article concerning the possible implimination of a ''genetic passport'' program began circulating in the media.Well folks,I have a hunch that there is a very good reason that this story,and the idea behind it,has been brought to public view at this point in time.If you listen and watch very closly, the elite usualy tell the masses what misfortune they are about,or already have brought upon us.Of course they usualy do this in a very indirect manner,less to many of us connect the dots at any one time and hinder their cloaked agenda.
    Concerning the ''small''plutonium release;keep in mind that it only takes a small amount of plutonium to kill millions,even billions.''Let him who have ears hear,and let him who have eyes see''Thats a partial quote from the bible by the way.


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  • PurpleRain PurpleRain

    Sure wish someone would post some link to be able to view that program without needing to be an HBO subscriber….


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  • Crickets Crickets

    It's hard to understand how, as individuals, we're constantly being hounded with regulations that wind up costing us so much money in taxes and personal expense, yet this filthy nuclear industry can put millions, potentially billions of people's health and lives at risk and almost nothing is said or done. For chrissake, then the cost of mitigation (if that's possible), I assume, is just passed on to end consumer. It really is quite infuriating. Now and then you just have to bury your head in a pillow and scream. There are a lot of people roaming the Earth who should be in jail right now.


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    • tarpus

      I remember my 4th grade teacher trying to teach us the importance of screaming in said pillow…at the time I thought "what in the world could make me want to scream in a pillow"? 30 years later and I know exactly what she meant. She also taught us that you are your own worst enemy. I thought she was batshit crazy, but the lady was just giving it to us straight no chaser.


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      • tarpus

        …memories. How things have changed… I recall my friend doing a drawing for an art contest that same teacher set up. It was a beautiful scale drawing of a .357 magnum revolver, this guy could draw anything. The teacher gave him first place. Of course nowadays they would have put the entire school on lockdown, have him expelled and packed off to a psychologist. I drove by there the other day and couldn't help but notice cameras ALL OVER THE PLACE. Pillow sounds good about right now.


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    • GQR2

      totally agree with you Crickets well said !


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  • 富岡_Blue_Heron 富岡_Blue_Heron

    "…neither the U.S. federal government nor the state of California is currently testing for Fukushima-derived radiation off the California coast.”

    Ostriches.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    This one is for all you supposed scientists and world leaders.

    For every one of you bastard spin doctors of nuclear power.

    For everyone who thinks this headline above, is OK.

    And because, I'm looking at ya, and all I see, are assholes…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXjcE57os8


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  • razzz razzz

    Calif. Coastal Commies report was done by staff. More information than usually dripped out over a long period of time. Staff's blunder is thinking this is a small release compared to above ground weapons testing even though the report makes it equal to Chernobyl's releases (at least at this point in time as nothing is stopping Daiichi from continuing to add to its releases).

    According to staff's report, the tsunami caused the meltdowns and only added to background radiation which is extremely vague besides the raising of background radiation levels to account for Daiichi fallout and radiation levels allowed in foods and drink. Levels that never existed before nuke bomb testing but do now.

    Charts and graphs are readable as to who produced them.

    Staff is now medical experts, making conclusion based their liking i.e. babies and children are more susceptible to 'a couple of dental ex-rays' worth of radiation exposure than grown adults. Again the staff report is purposely vague but there is an agenda to carry out. Since no one can afford to request testing for the origins of any radionuclides, no definitive conclusions can be made so they will hide behind that type of thinking while cancer rates sky rocket and everyone is told to look the other way as it is just a part of life.


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    • Yeah, Staff's report. Real nice. And lies after stacked lies. If I didn't know better now, I would certainly believe them. Sounds reasonable. Certainly nothing to get alarmed about. Just a little addition to a little background radiation. 26 pages with references. They must know what they are talking about. They are the experts, after all. And besides, I'm going to die from this or some other crazy crap that can't be helped, so what's the big deal?

      The whole report a disgusting downplay of the entire man-made nuclear situation, cleverly hidden as "staff research", who obviously have cherry picked and twisted their "information". Designed to reassure the general population. Job well done.

      But what is this, at 11:00min? Some closed door session about "threatened litigation" … with of course "direction given to staff".

      Fukushima Fallout Pt. 1 – CA Coastal Commission – Staff Briefing
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz-BYmADiWM&list=UUju14A1OKOPVSZNLJLsI1qw

      With appreciation for making it an easy read for a lay person

      Fukushima Fallout Pt. 2 – CA Coastal Commission Q&A
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn_Cnxba_Fg&index=2&list=UUju14A1OKOPVSZNLJLsI1qw

      The idea of lawsuits are not always well received, but I wonder, whoever could it be? West coast class-action sounds tasty to me


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    • Other nuclear researchers with a much different say. Easy reads
      http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/14/reflections-on-fukushima/

      My favorite is Noam Chompsky in a Japan. Very compassionately explains governments everywhere behave atrociously against the People most of the time, lying to protect themselves from their own citizens. It's their job apparently. We are the enemy.


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  • Yahu-Yochanan

    "several decades" Corporate whores are such jokers. The arrogance, the pride. I nearly chocked on my banana sitting in the sun.

    Where's the atomic cores? Ask a fish!

    These people think their earth imposter Christ will take their lawlessness away. Proudly consuming atomic radiated fish. Can't say they wasn't warned.

    ps: Don't forget to change your eBay pass codes. Told Meg years ago about this, they never listen. Always proud.


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  • michmom michmom

    Please read and support this. http://www.protectlakehuron.com Stop the Kincardine, Ontario nuclear waste dump. It will be located near Lake Huron. Insanity. I'm going to go scream in my pillow now.


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  • I do not give us more than 15 years from now.
    By 2030 the number of planets known to be home to life will drop from one to zero.
    Mother Earth and all her children will cease to exist and she will turn into a giant dead and hostile piece of rock and water rushing through the darkness of space. A victim to the eternal nuclear petrification curse.

    I do not suppose too many of you have seen the Queer Duck movie; there's a scene with a totally stoned Liza Minelli asking "Whose funeral is this ? Mine ?"
    We are all dead men walking.


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  • Sol Man

    There was radiation found in the kelp. Here is article from 2012.
    It won't get better with the #4 reactor fire plume now on its way.
    https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/04/09-0


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  • jackassrig

    Finagle's Creed

    Science is Truth – don't be misled by facts.

    Laws of Revision
    Corollary 1
    In simple cases, where one obvious right way is opposed to one obvious wrong way, it is often wiser to choose the wrong way right off. This is one step ahead of choosing the right way, which turns out to be a wrong way, which has become a right way.


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  • irhologram

    260 nSv/h
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 6:Fukushima Fukushima, Fukushima, JP
    Click here for data charts
    nSv/h: current 260 Low 160 High 300
    Average 266, Deviation 23.6
    Last updated: 2014-05-22 08:00:00 GMT+0000

    Hottest spot in CA
    315 CPM
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 5:915 San Diego, CA, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 315 Low 251 High 358
    Average 307, Deviation 16.5
    (CPM of Gamma in energy range 600-800keV)
    Last updated: 2014-05-21 12:46:00 GMT+0000

    148 CPM
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 5:635 Carlsbad, NM, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 148 Low 118 High 276
    Average 157, Deviation 24.8
    (CPM of Gamma in energy range 600-800keV)
    Last updated: 2014-05-22 04:51:00 GMT+0000

    BUT!! For those of you who think the answer is moving East, what about the CONSISTANTLY high readings on the east coast…In Miami, for example?

    410 CPM
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 5:406 Miami, FL, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 410 Low 391 High 443
    Average 408, Deviation 6.2
    (CPM of Gamma in energy range 600-800keV)
    Last updated: 2014-05-22 04:09:00 GMT+0000

    In mid-America, why the difference between Lawrence and Kansas City? Cont.


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    • VanneV VanneV

      The Fukushima monitor you quote is not the one at the reactors 1-4. That monitor usually reads around 133,000. This monitor is not now broadcasting its reading. Another indication of something serious having happened there. The monitor probably had higher readings than the 144,000 possible and can't register such high readings.

      This is definitely not good news.


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      • irhologram

        TY, Vannie. At the times I checked Fukushima, the level was much the same as today's. But I believe you. Would you know how to convert nSv/h to CPM. I had that "stored" but now I don't know where. Otherwise, apples and oranges?


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        • VanneV VanneV

          Converting Radiation Readings From Or To; CPM, nSv/hr uSv/hr mSv/hr milliRad/hr

          “The official Fukushima plant radiation monitor level reads a constant, never varying 142,000 nanoSieverts/hr, which is equal to 0.142 milliSieverts/hr, which is also equal to 0.000142 Sieverts/hr. How do we convert this into CPM's, or other measurements values? Skip down over the reading material if this is all that is desired…

          “Why is it, that this radiation reading so constant and never varies, when all over the rest of the world, radiation readings go up and down regularly?

          “The Fukushima Daichi plant has officially reported just one very high radiation reading in just ONE place, up to 25 Sieverts. In reality, the Fukushima plant has hot spots all over it, for many reasons. As one example, the vent stack on one of the reactors measures out at an incredible 25 Sieverts. No one can get close to that and live to tell about, much less fix it somehow. So the broken vent stack is left alone.

          “In addition, after reactor building #3 exploded, and both reactor buildings #3 and #4 had corium melt and flow outside of the buildings with visible liquid lava corium flowing out of multiple buildings, TEPCO went in and buried all of this (after it cooled). They also buried the plutonium fuel rods that came out of the non hydrogen explosion at #3. This is normally called 'concealing the evidence of a crime", wouldn't you agree?

          “A huge concrete area marks the probable location of all…


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        • Handy guide, note that to convert from or to CPM to mSv or mRem requires the ASSUMPTION of which radionuclide you are detecting. Often this is assumes to be Cesium, which may or may not be correct, and it may be multiple radionuclides too. There is no need to overcomplicate, but also no need to oversimplify and thus think you know more than you actually do.

          http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/04/geiger-counter-interpretation.html


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          • Stock, I have friends asking me too…since the NECT, when I looked this am, said 300 for low, high, current nSv/h at Fukushima. A variety of readings up and down Japan ranged from 40 to 60 comparatively.

            So is there a figure (very ballpark, not very easy to provide, I know…) that would give a totally non-tech person a general idea?

            Folks all over just shrug and can't relate until they hear (for instance) "Well that would be about xxxx times as high as a typical San Diego reading averaging this past 3 months."

            What do you think? Any simple way to get that across?
            Thanks!


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    • Daisy207

      I don't know why this site shows significantly higher readings than radnet since the data are supposed to be from the same source.
      http://www.gregslab.com/tools/radwatch


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      • whoa! intense. we really really need a reliable source to produce a study on all the aggregators publishing rad data… those numbers in that url are sooooo high! Not that I'm surprised, nor d I disbelieve, but I bet others will jump all over their data and start saying:

        "oh, but it can't be – look at radnet and radiationnetwork and blackcat etc… that data must be wrong"


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      • Daisy207

        Fresno seemed to get a kick up – about three days after the fire was reported at unit 4 SPF. All other monitors seem to be shut down. Wonder why – Has EPA frozen their monitors in time or simply shutting them down again.


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    • thanks for carrying on the netc.com reporting. I was tweeted by Mimi of RadCast who dissed netc and offered to let me upload my data to radcast website.

      I declined – besides not actually having my Inspector EXP with me at the moment, I become very wary of those who put down/discredit others.

      Unless there is a detailed, peer review of all rad monitoring report websites revealing all sources and funding, there is no reason to disrespect netc.com. NEI contracts with US feds EPA for monitoring last I heard.

      IMHO – Any rad monitoring station aggregator that does not show spikes or ongoing elevated CPM – is probably hiding the truth.

      Can someone do research on all the rad monitor aggregators and publish a peer reviewed report? RadCast has not and probably won't.

      Primary reason I do not trust Radcast – Nan Bhajani Tierra & her partner who both tried to rip me a new ahole in FB groups, 2011. Both have a history of creating conflict among true enviros beginning with Earth First Judi Bari. I checked with friends who happen to be real, dedicated, eco warriors in NorCal about Nan and her sidekick.

      Beware those with lukewarm data and offers to help….


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  • irhologram

    Why the difference between Lawrence and Kansas City?

    307 CPM
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 5:708 Kansas City, KS, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 307 Low 169 High 423
    Average 245, Deviation 35.6
    (CPM of Gamma in energy range 600-800keV)
    Last updated: 2014-05-22 04:52:00 GMT+0000

    17 CPM
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 1:EBEB8CE7 Lawrence, KS, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 17 Low 4 High 36
    Average 18, Deviation 4.1
    Average over last 10 minutes: 16

    We are an educated bunch here, but are we as limited in our critical thinking as One Trick Ponies (OK, 2 or 3 tricks… Fukushima, Hanover, and WIPP, principally.)? I have asked several times that this OBVIOUS inconsistency be addressed, because while we THINK we have eyes on the ball, I'm not sure we DO. I think the OBVIOUS and consistent problems are DEEPER and more imminently close to where we live and how we live….i.e. Medical Waste and University Experimentation in addition to local NPPs, for example,

    This is not just a "throw away" concern in the mix of bigger problems! Right here; right now, CPMs are through (your) roof. You are NOT helpless to find out WHY, and addressing these problems on the LOCAL level is the best focus for effort in ANY case. No? Yes? Is this not where YOU can raise awareness? Please start monitoring PATTERNS of contamination.


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    • Consider the way the weather dumps and is trapped in some areas – Kevin Blanch talked about Utah trapping whatever drops … MT the same? meteorology (and definitive examination of rad monitor station alliances/technical specs) required to see why some areas hit heavier than others.


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    • General User General User

      Irhologram, Chief,
      As a paid member of http://www.netc.com perhaps I can help explain the details there. In the IRH post you refer to this measuring location;

      307 CPM
      NETC.COM © 2014
      Station ID 5:708 Kansas City, KS, US
      Click here for data charts
      CPM: current 307 Low 169 High 423
      Average 245, Deviation 35.6

      Note the Station ID- A number:more numbers Kansas City, KS
      This location is part of the US-EPA Radnet system.
      It physically is a HEPA air filter fitted with a Geiger Counter.
      That is why the readings are so high, many, many hot particles stuck in the filter. Beating the geiger counter hour after hour

      The other measuring location you mention is;
      17 CPM
      NETC.COM © 2014
      Station ID 1:EBEB8CE7 Lawrence, KS, US
      Click here for data charts
      CPM: current 17 Low 4 High 36
      Average 18, Deviation 4.1
      Average over last 10 minutes: 16

      Note this Station ID- A number:(hexadecimal)numbers/letters
      This is a privately owned Geiger Counter with NO fan No filter.
      The CPM is only whatever radiation that happens by the sensor each moment, not hour after hour of the same hot particle stuck to the filter.
      ___________________________
      LO, Behold; The Lamp of Knowledge at ENE has brought forth a Lurker Moth. After some 19 months, I am here. much peace to all


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  • Chief

    Not to mention the constantly high reading at Billings Montana and other Great Plains cities. The site to also monitor is Nuclear Emergency Tracking Center:

    http://www.netc.com/

    I watch this everyday to gage what is coming my way. Also pay attention to monitor sites that are taken offline to recalibrate. When they come back online at a lower level, these sites immediately tend to move back to the levels they recorded before "redo". Hence, junk in the area.

    People for the most part are unaware of what has happened in Japan. So it is safe to say that these people are surfing at beaches and letting their children splash around in the water. Aren't the waves pretty?

    When the Cesium mixed in the seawater starts to eat at their skin, then they will begin to react. Too late though. Seals are reacting. So are whales and dolphin.


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    • J.

      "People for the most part are unaware of what has happened in Japan. So it is safe to say that these people are surfing at beaches and letting their children splash around in the water. Aren't the waves pretty?"

      Steven Starr, the radionuclide expert, started his lecture with a point made by Dick Gregory decades ago: the insidious aspect of radiation is that it is undetectable to our senses. Even a good detection device gives us either a twitching needle or a numerical readout that lacks the impact of, say, seeing a cloud of billowing, toxic smoke.

      I propose an idea for consideration by anyone and everyone — and if this reaches eyes belonging to folks like the good Gundersons, Caldicott, Kaltofen, and others of that admirable activist elite — so much the better:

      Humanity needs a simple, low-cost pair of 'eyeglasses' that can convert alpha, beta, and gamma radiation readings into a virtual reality image of deadly particles, let's say, yellow, red, and black.

      Imagine a parent on a stroll in a Tokyo park with a small child, and he/she puts on his/her Rad Specs and sees, in the grass beneath the innocent, tiny feet, millions of specs corresponding to cesium. Or strontium. Or radium. Or Americeium. Or plutonium. The A/B/G color would give a clue as to what it might be, but the 'bottom line' effect would be immediate and visceral: we have to get out of here.

      This should be a Kickstarter project.


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  • irhologram

    Chief. Yes, I have noticed the "reset" to reflect lower averages when next on line…


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  • Nick

    OT:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/report-paul-mccartney-being-treated-japanese-hospital

    Think rads had anything to do with Paul's illness?

    I suggest he fly away to a less radiated spot.

    His viral illness will go viral.

    Then when people see where he is, other news about Japan's radioactive issues will then go viral.

    Watch.


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  • Conca admits that the plan of the nucleacrats is to stuff ALL the spent fuel into WIPP

    James Conca, Contributor9 hours ago

    Wrong, the old waste is easily covered by the NWFund, if put in the right place (not Yucca Mt, too expensive, wrong rock). WIPP is going to handle this well as the NMED secretary is taking the right response.

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    @James, I assume your NWFund is nuclear waste fund. But where is this money exactly? Is it in an Escrow account, or has it already been hijacked to pay other government overspending?

    Interesting how you say WIPP is going to handle all the Spent Fuel, when there are 500 dirty plutonium bombs in WIPP and they are fiddling around, with every wasted day creating more risk.

    Even if WIPP is ever used again, why not just create another facility 5 miles away, some degree of seperation would certainly reduce risk of putting massive amounts of radiation and chemicals all together.


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    • Shaker1

      Stock, respectfully, I don't know why you bother with this jerk. He's obviously a 'made man' whose intelligence is limited to memory, not imagination, and true learning is lost upon him. I had ignored him until yesterday, when I finally looked into his resume and read some of his things. I wanted to puke.

      Then, I guess someone has to speak to jerks. Personally, I've lost patience.


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      • he is a useful tool, he telegraphs the nucleacrats game plan directly. he is the point man, and so so much hubris, he doesn't even think he needs to coverup the game plan.

        He has also helped me understand some radiation and source term important things that has improved my game.


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  • Dick Shenary

    I have just learned that we get an added bonus from friggin fracking. After the explosive pressure of fracking, much of the, shall we say, backwash (secret ingredients) comes back up with moderate levels of radiation. These radiation levels are high enough that care must be taken as to where the waste fluids are dumped. It seems that the local government in Billings, MT decided to allow dumping of these waste fluids in one of their public land fills for a price. The problem is that Billings, MT now has the highest consistent level of CPM readings in the nation. Of coarse they are proud of this achievement – being highest in the nation in any category is reason for civic pride.
    783 CPM is the current reading!


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    • J.

      The late M. Ruppert — a very good man in my view, and honest and reliable — claimed that DU is used in fracking carried out by Halliburton. I was, frankly, shocked. If it's true it needs to be widely promulgated.


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  • Dick Shenary

    Any comments on CPM readings this high?


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  • SadieDog

    EDITORIAL : damaging Fukushima testimony raises grave questions…
    http://www.asahi.com/english/articles/AJ201405210015.html


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  • Does anyone have a link reference to REAL DATA on global historical temperature data by city, anywhere? I have searched and seached, I guess that data must be top secret?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/16/climategate-ii-scientific-community-accused-muzzling-dissent-on-global-warming/?intcmp=obinsite


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  • Plutonium: so safe you can drink it up


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  • dosdos dosdos

    From the Japanese court ruling on the Oi restarts (which denied permission):

    “It is legally unacceptable to discuss people’s rights concerning their very existence and economic concerns about electricity rates in the same terms,”


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  • Bottom line on Global Warming: It has stalled out for the last 15 years, although we are seeing more extremes (not hard to believe after living through a few polar Vortex).

    Thus the carbon tax pimps are running out of time in their little plot to transfer yet more wealth to those that already have the most wealth.

    I'll publish when I have more detailed data, I used this data table, which has already been tortured by some government office in some way they don't describe.

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt


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  • "When Engineers die"
    An engineer dies and reports to the Pearly Gates. Saint Peter checks his dossier and not seeing his name there, accidentally sends him to Hell. It doesn't take long before the engineer becomes rather dissatisfied with the level of comfort in Hell.
    He soon begins to design and build improvements. Shortly thereafter, Hell has air conditioning, flush toilets and escalators. Needless to say, the engineer is a pretty popular guy.
    One day, God calls Satan and says: "So, how are things in Hell?"
    Satan replies: "Hey, things are going great. We've got air conditioning, flush toilets, and escalators. And there's no telling what this engineer is going to come up with next."
    "What!" God exclaims: "You've got an engineer? That's a mistake – he should never have been sent to Hell. Send him to me."
    "Not a chance," Satan replies. "I like having an engineer on the staff, and I'm keeping him."
    God insists: "Send him back or I'll sue."
    Satan laughs uproariously and answers: "Yeah, right. And where are you going to get a lawyer?"


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  • nuknomore nuknomore

    I drove to the coast a couple weeks ago, in the northwest. Sat on a rock and watched the sun go down. Our little dog was playing on the beach. And I started to worry.. I loved the air the water the sunset. But I was nervous being there.
    We stayed awhile. Then a rouge wave came in, and got my feet and legs wet. My dog fell in and got wet.
    For a couple days she has scratched and itched and lost some fur in her tail.
    All I can think is .Did this hurt her. OR did it?
    Is this the new norm ? Is this what getting sea water on us will do now?
    I will never let her get in the ocean water again. Thats a fact.
    Why?
    Cause no one is telling the truth.


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    • When I was in Hawaii in Feb I took a gallon of water from the sea east of Diamond head. I boiled it off until I just had salt/minerals

      Tested with geiger, 50% higher clicks than air background at same time and place.

      Thats not a good thing. You want real ocean data, there it is.


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    • Sol Man

      A month ago I took a walk in sandals by a river that flooded several months ago, inundating with all of the pollutants that it had picked-up along the way. The river was at a normal at the time of my hike amongst the brush. A twig stuck out and scratched the top of my foot. It turned a bit red and angry. I put antibiotic cream on it several times. It healed but there is still a dark purple mark where the scratch had been.

      EVERYTHING is in the dust that gets washed to the water! Shame on me for not wearing my hiking boots.

      This reminds me: you really don't want your windows open or to be in the proximity of leaf blowers when someone has got one of those infernal machines fired up. Cuz, EVERYTHING is in the dust!


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    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

      …..nuknomore….one day, sooner or later, there will be whistleblowers who have done scientific research on this, lab tests, the works, or those who have access to results already available but hidden somewhere, who will be coming out to inform us and who are moved to do this for the benefit of the public good.

      In the meanwhile, you can still enjoy those west coast sunsets, which are still fabulous, with that special 'pink' glow.


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  • I finally got around to watching the video of the California Coastal Commission (link above). One thing that impressed me was the lack of basic knowledge among both the questioners and the speaker. One person asked if there is a difference between Japanese reactors of the Fukushima type and California reactors. The speaker didn't know. He also makes no distinction between ambient radiation and internal emitters.


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    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      Reading FOIA documents will enlighten you as to just how CLUELESS the NRC/TEPCO was/is. In the first few weeks, the SFP's were not even TALKED about (maybe because they had already been torched) as being important.


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  • For those of you who read the Daily Beast, stop reading that propaganda meant to look like the "in news"

    read this once, pimps of nuke

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/03/12/japan-nuclear-fallout-how-bad-could-it-get.html#


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  • General User General User

    LO, Behold;
    The Lamp of Knowledge at ENE has brought forth a Lurker Moth.
    After some 19 months, I am here as a member now.
    Much peace to all.

    I placed a decoder ring for the http://www.netc.com website near
    Irholograms question, see;

    http://enenews.com/inseveral-decades/comment-page-1#comment-523130

    Perhaps in a few weeks I'll learn to make a real 'link'


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    • GQR2

      Thx General User and welcome out of the rafters

      peace to you too. Its still confusing with the rad readings. Its great to have people around who have a better grasp on the mechanisms with the monitoring sites. Its truly appreciated.


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    • RaDiaTed JeWeLz RaDiaTed JeWeLz

      I just did the same thing!!Been fluttering around for the past year or so; following everybody as best as I can.
      Finally figured I should register because ENEnewsers seem to be going through the same things as I; especially with family. I constantly get the "let it go" or "you bring it up every chance you can, people are sick of it" or the best "so what are you accomplishing by reading all that bullshit? Like it will benefit us at all"
      I am so grateful to have come across this site and the incredibly intelligent thinkers that reside here! At least part of humanity will end with decency.
      It amazes me that other doctors and scientists (I guess everyone else as well) could be so deliberate to deny something that affects them and their loved they can't all be paid off by the nuc industry, can they?
      Anyhoo, thanks everyone for your efforts.
      I feel less crazy than before; bonkers is the better term lol!


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  • Argo Argo

    WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO SO THAT I GET YOUR ATTENTION??????

    SPREAD THE INFORMATION TO CALIFORNIA, CANADA, MEXICO, ALASKA AND MAINLY TO JAPAN!!!! THEY NEED ACCESS TO THOSE ANTIDOTES IMMEDIATELY ….THIS IS CRIMINAL NOT TO HELP

    ollowing list of Antidotes that is hidden from the public:
    Against
    Americium-241 = Ca-DTPA or Zn-DTPA
    Californium-252 = Ca-DTPA or Zn-DTPA
    Cesium 137 = Radiogardase (Prussian Blue)
    Cobalt 60 = D-Penicillamin, DMPS
    Iodid 131 = Potassium Iodine
    Plutonium 239 = Ca-DTPA or Zn-DTPA
    Polonium 210 = DMPS, BAL
    Strontium 90 = Alginate, Alluminumhydroxy Antazid, Bariumsulfate

    The ELITES are making sure they themselves, their Families are getting them…only THEM..

    SPREAD THE KNOWLEDGE AROUND THE WORLD


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