Published: December 12th, 2011 at 6:53 am ET
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Breaking news ; Possibility of recriticality again, Fukushima Diary, Dec. 11, 2011:
- Radioactive Iodine was measured in Gunma and Tokyo again
- Officials announce the reason is unknown
- Measured from incineration ash of garbage disposal facilities in Tokyo
- I-131 @ 350 Bq/kg, Kita garbage disposal facility (Nov. 9)
- I-131 @ 28 Bq/kg, Suginami garbage disposal facilities (Nov. 7)
- I-131 @ 15 Bq/kg, Shin koto garbage disposal facilities (Nov. 11)
More information about iodine-131 in Gunma: Radioactive iodine found in Gunma at 3 sewage plants
Published: December 12th, 2011 at 6:53 am ET
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“Officials announce the reason is unknown”…
hmmm…it couldnʻt have anything to do with that triple meltdown/melthrough at Fukushima…theyʻre in cold shutdown, right?
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Iodine-131 is a fission produce with a half life of about a week so ….. The grade schooler was right, they (Tepco) didn’t pay attention in school !
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@xdrfox
You are not really right here,
please have a look for the use of Iodine-131
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131#Medical_and_pharmaceutical_uses
I can’t calculate which product may have get burned in the Plants but i just wanted to pointing out that there are more possible sources than F’Shima!
It is wrong, simple and a stupid conclusion to say:
F’Shima is re-critical without thinking about Pharmaceutical Products!!
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Phew…
You are conflating USE with SOURCE.
Perhaps unintentionally.
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@ or-well
maybe, i am not native in English
but Iodine-131 is also used as a Medication!
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I’m not disputing that but the original SOURCE of this radioactive isotope is not pharmaceuticals.
I think I understand your point. It seems you are suggesting excreted Iodine-131, from medical use, has accumulated to these detected levels in multiple sewage treatment facilities.
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Yes, this is my suggestion because it is highly possible.
A few years ago we researched Water Treatment Facilities close to huge Hospitals
for Drugs and they all have been Radioactive and polluted by Pharmaceutical Products from Diazepam until Morphines!
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Glad you clarified it.
We know presribed drugs excreted into our water supplies are a problem here too, just as where you are living.
Probably the same in Japan.
BUT, please realise, Japanese authorities are using this as one more trick to cover-up.
Please, given your experience, could you comment on the LEVELS of I-131 found in the treatment plants ?
We must also consider the likelihood – or not – of major medical labs contaminating three separate treatment facilties facilities.
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@ or-well
sadly,as i already wrote, i cant calculate it because to many factors are unknown!
All we can do is to compare with Water Treatment Facilities in normal Towns in the western World!
I will have a look but not tonight,
i need to sleep!
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@Human0815
and sadly, our western baseline “normal” is contaminated, and too many factors are being hidden from us.
We will have to wait, likely more will come out on this.
Sleep well.
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Because of the carcinogenicity of its beta radiation in the thyroid in small doses, I-131 is rarely used primarily or solely for diagnosis (although in the past this was more common due to this isotope’s relative ease of production and low expense).
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In other words – unlikely to be residual excreted byproduct of medical use!
It would be nice to be able to compare water studies from “normal” situations with what’s being reported.
I’m no chemist or medical radiologist so it’s a steep learning curve.
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Iodine in Hospital Waste Water, please check:
http://www.google.com/search?q=+iodin-131+in+hospital+waste+water&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=RL2&rls=org.mozilla:de%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=iodine-131+in+hospital+waste+water&pbx=1&oq=iodine-131+in+hospital+waste+water&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=116898l116898l0l118134l1l1l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=1c7b7a5637a21260&biw=1280&bih=646
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381970/
http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/genbio/casestudies/radioactive.mhtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131
All in all Iodine-131 is sadly very common in the Western Worlds Sewage Systems!
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Thank you Human0815 for coming back with this info.
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Testing at multiple locations !!
This is how they tried to explained the rise in North east USA also ! Didn’t explain similar rises all over the country !
I’ll excuse you choice of words for you ignorance of English being not you native language !
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officials announce the reason unknown:what a bullshit
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The 3 sun blobs merrily churning away or corium are playing the game of criticality with their spent fool friends.This is nothing new to most of us here, rather it just solidifies our suspicions. If only the blobs would solidify or decay as this is like starting from day one.
“The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and thus we drift toward unparalleled catastrophe.” Albert Einstein.
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A “known unknown” or an “unknown unknown” ?
Will they quote Rumsfeld soon ?
“Build it and they will come.”
“test for it & you’ll find it.” -Field of Fallout.
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I-131 comes from one event and one event only, fission. They can say anything they want, and they probably will, but it’s physics people and physics doesn’t lie. Let me repeat that, I-131 comes from one event and one event only, fission. Either the coriums produced it or it came from some other nuclear plant in the area, period. It’s not from bananas, cancer patient pissing in the street, old paint, or any other bullshit source. Coriums or some other reactor produced it, 5 or 6 perhaps, Daini perhaps?.
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Spent fuel pools maybe? Almost forgot about those works of art….
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Well there goes the hope the fuel is lying as a cooled pancake. Albeit an 89 ton pancake.
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Sad when them in charge cause more deaths then the accident !
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I will re quote this quote posted by moonshellblue;
“The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and thus we drift toward unparalleled catastrophe.” Albert Einstein.
Thanx moonshellblue
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We have arrived !
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All it will take is someone to fart and spent fuel pools will come tumbling down. It’s enough to make a grown man cry.
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It is all REALLY EASY to figure out..
Compare the overall general radiation (cesium, strontium, etc.) and radioactive iodine levels in THESE SAME sewage treatment plants BEFORE Fukushima blew, and after.
The before readings will give a baseline of general medical contamination and radiation thrown into the trash.
The AFTER readings will tell you everything else.
You cannot create iodine by magic.. It comes from somewhere. If the after readings are higher or MUCH HIGHER after Fukushima, than before F, then it is proof positive, no wondering or guess work involved.
The fact is, they DO NOT WANT TO KNOW.
THEY DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO FIND OUT.
THEY DO NOT WANT TO DISCLOSE BEFORE AND AFTER radiation rates, unless forced to by outside pressure.
Does anyone have access to sewage treatment plant radiation and iodine records BEFORE Fukushima?
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My bet is that these elevated readings are from Fuku, and here is my reasoning;
First, Tokyo (possibly other cities around Japan) are now storing sewage on site, with covered tarps, instead of burning it, as they USED TO DO, because of increased radiation levels that make it HAZARDOUS to burn due to release of radioactive elements. In other words, normal levels of radiation before Fuku were much much lower, (safe?) even with medical waste thrown in. Now it is NOT SAFE.
Second, sewage treatment plants used to incinerate the waste, and then sell the ash to concrete companies to use in building materials. They have stopped doing that as well, because of the high radiation levels left in the concentrated ash. Same conclusion as above. Ash is now hazardous toxic waste, where it was NOT that before Fuku.
Third, readings done all over Japan indicate RISING radiation levels, not DROPPING radiation levels, it seems like EVERYWHERE in the world. They are blaming this on trees, grass, lack of smiling, everything except for the continued releases of radiation from FUKU.
They CLAIM that Fuku is no longer a radiation danger, but we have at least three leaking, melted through reactor cores, with out of control nuclear fires made up of 65 TONS of melted uranium, plutonium, etc in EACH REACTOR CORE, plus OPEN SPENT FUEL POOLS, with HUNDREDS OF TONS of radioactive nuclear material. These pools may also be cracked/leaking and are exposed to OPEN AIR, PLUS there was and still is actively radiating nuclear material thrown all over the place for miles around FUKU, still not clean up or covered up. All of this means radiation is BEING RELEASED DAILY. In my view, most of the release is being covered up, denies, spun or blamed on trees, grass, lack of smiling, anything but FUKU.
You tell me… does this sound like cold shut down, no more radiation coming out to you?
Are you smiling yet?
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“Tests concluded between 10 and 20 April revealed radioactive caesium in amounts of 2.0 and 3.2 kBq/kg in soil from the Tokyo districts of Chiyoda and Koto, respectively[171] On 5 May, government officials announced that radiation levels in Tokyo sewage had SPIKED in late March.[148] Simple sum measurements of all radioactive isotopes in sewage burned at a Tokyo treatment plant measured 170,000 Bq/kg “in the immediate wake of the Fukushima nuclear crisis.[148] The government announced that the reason for the spike was unclear, but suspected rainwater.[148] The 5 May announcement further clarified that as of 28 April, the radiation level in Tokyo sewage was 16,000 Bq/kg.[148]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_effects_from_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster#Ground.2C_water_and_sewage_contamination_outside_of_30_kilometers
The government will probably NEVER admit that FUKU caused the radiation rise in sewage, or in anything else, short or long term. The cause will always be ‘unknown’, in the official nuke and govt. historical records. Reading the above paragraph, it is the ‘rain’ that caused it, but certainly NOT FUKU.
I think in the minds of FUKU promoters, rain just happens to extremely radioactive once in awhile, for no reason at all. Sewage then also, gets radiation in it, for no reason at all, just because it decides to.. The reasons are ALWAYS ‘unclear’, ‘unknown’, mysterious, and possibly caused by the DEVIL, aliens or underworld spirits.
They tend to blame it all on NATURE, trees and leaves.. It is all Natures FAULT, BUT NOT FUKU. It is Not people hiding things, nuclear plants exploding, leading, melting through. It is NOT anyone ever covering anything up.. Nope, it is all about how NATURE LIES… and people always tell the truth, 100%.
You see, Nature is not disputing this fact, so it must be so. There you have it, proof positive.. RAIN/TREES causes all of the problems, end of story.
And they all lived happily ever…
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Good summary of their excuses Green Road. I note also that whenever anyone connected with the plant dies publicly, its always reported as being natural causes as well.
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And yeah, they say radiation is just natural and natures good for you… like rattle snake venom!
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