Japan Gov’t: Reactors at Fuksuhima Dai-Ni nuclear plant will be decommissioned

Published: September 16th, 2011 at 7:41 am ET
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Tepco’s Fuksuhima Dai-Ni Will Be Decommissioned, Mainichi Says, Bloomberg by Makoto Miyazaki, September 16, 2011:

Tokyo Electric Power Co. will need to decommission its Fukushima Dai-Ni nuclear power plant, the Mainichi newspaper reported, citing Japan’s trade and industry minister Yukio Edano. [...]

Published: September 16th, 2011 at 7:41 am ET
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89 comments to Japan Gov’t: Reactors at Fuksuhima Dai-Ni nuclear plant will be decommissioned

    • ocifferdave ocifferdave

      “There we go. All of the cost associated with Fukushima get to be “shouldered” by the taxpayers. So easy for corporations. Buy off corrupt politicians, create a law, f. the people. Remember this next time you hear or read BS about low cost of nuclear power. And to top it off, the costs of nuclear waste dumps, nuclear accidents and decomissioning of nuclear plants get “shouldered” by the taxpayers as a rule of thumb. ” -webmaster at:

      http://radioactive.eu.com/


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      • Ken31ONCA

        tepco reported 150 million in profit for 2010 and the 6 reactors at fukushima. Even being as cheap as they are, screwing alot of thier citizens of japan and the underpaid workers doing tepcos dirty work for them, it is safe to say that they lost money this year and will continue to until who knows when. So maybe some people will see that and decide against the dirty nuclear power. Anyone who would go with nuclear power after seeing what happened in japan deserves to loose thier shirt. its too bad the goverments decide to make tax payers have to pay a share too when most people are against nuclear power and weapons. they need to start putting these goverment and nuclear ceo’s on a lie dectector to see what the hell they are actually thinking.


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  • jwfuki

    I wonder what they’re NOT telling us…….


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  • Steven Steven

    That, I presume, would be due to the proximity of Daiini to Daiichi, and the resulting radiation threat which such proximity poses (unless there’s some significant damage there also, which they have failed to mention.)

    TEPCO must surely be on the ropes financially by now, and this embarassing decision underscores the serious nature of the situation at Daiichi. Under control? Apparently not so much as to allow the continued operations of the sister plant a few kilometres down the road, not just temporarily but permanently, full decommissioning with all the costs and headaches that this process incurs.

    TEPCO, at least, understands how serious things are.


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    • anne anne

      The significant damage to Fuku Daini has been in numerous official reports which grades 3 of the reactors at the same level as the #4 reactor at Fuku Daiichi. There have been many, many earthquakes at the same lat and long 16.5 miles from Fuku Daini. The levels of ionizing radiation must be sky high there. There are more than 21 shafts which reach down from Fuku Daiichi deep into the earth, and I would imagine that there are many shafts also at Fuku Daini also.


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      • Steven Steven

        3 reactors like R4 ! I knew they had a problem there, with a seperate exclusion zone of 10km which was quickly superceded by the 20 then 30km Daiichi zone, but I wasn’t aware that three of the units had such serious problems. One has to wonder how they arrived at this comparison, considering the unusual nature of the trouble at Daiichi R4 – RPV empty, SFP loaded with both old and new fuel and misbehaving badly, structure severely compromised, but the official status report is of course ‘empty’.

        That in itself is revealing; it has the stench of obfuscation about it.


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  • anne anne

    Latest – Sept. 8 – reports on Fuku Daiichi and Daini:
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/f12np-gaiyou_e_2.pdf

    Shows inundated and inflowed areas of both Fuku Daiichi and Daini, among other parts of the report:
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/f12np-gaiyou_e_1.pdf


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    • Steven Steven

      These would make nice shiny PR brochures to hand out on open days at other plants. Thank you for visiting. Please wash your hands carefully after handling the information packages, and try not to inhale too deeply. Place your disposable outergarments in the red bin near the door on your way out. These will be incinerated at a later date at no extra cost, along with any other radioactive crap we find laying about the place. If you live downwind you might want to hang on to the mask.


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    • patb2009

      nice mix of truth and lies in that info brochure.

      it leaves out the busted plumbing all over dai-chi especially in untis 1,3,4.

      it leaves out the busted plumbing at Dai-ini

      it leaves out the recalculated rad losses which are much more then
      at Chernobyl.

      It leaves out the fact Dai-ichi 1-4 exploded.

      No, the reason why Dai-ini is being decommissioned is it’s either the leaks have put radiation all over the buildings and lets not forget it has been reported we had massive water leaks in the turbine buildings at Daiini or the damage to the intake systems resulted in significant core melt, 30% or more sufficient that there is no chance to get the core
      fuel pulled.

      daini is a multi billion dollar facility to decommission it, is the last option of any business


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  • A popular radio station host has said on air that numerous source’s he has say that other plants around Japan may as well be in melt down or partial meltdowns that are not being reported !
    We see the ground broken around the Fuka plant, surely nearby plants must have received such the same shake and destruction to the working pipelines of other plants !
    ~~~~
    Japan’s assumptions over possible nuclear accident ‘too modest’
    The report said the Fukushima accident also has implications for nuclear security as both accident and sabotage could cause similar problems “through the loss of power, communications, computer, safety and physical protection systems, and the loss of key operating, safety and security personnel.”…
    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110915p2g00m0dm110000c.html


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Hey Doc! I’m back. I’ll post it to the only thread at HP but was wondering…do you have a link to that Radio program? Was it RENSE? New or old? Trying my damnest to catch up from being gone.


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    • Steven Steven

      Thanks for that link xdrfox. I’m no longer astounded by this but find it offensive enough to make a comment:

      “the report called nuclear power an important source of energy to meet the power needs of the world where some 2.4 billion people are currently living in energy poverty.

      As of July 2011, about 440 nuclear power reactors were operating in 29 countries and 65 new reactors were under construction. “Interest in nuclear power, although impacted by the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, remains high.”"

      What the hell is ‘energy poverty’? We’ve had elctricity for what, about 150 years… did the human race live in ‘energy poverty’ until then? And 65 new reactors under construction… ah, I can’t even find the right words anymore.


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  • Whoopie,

    http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

    If one visits and listen to the show, after a few times there an option to D L the app will popup on a new visit, I placed mine on desktop !
    ~~~
    instant listening, here’s the App, live feed for Rense Radio “Jeff Rense Program”

    http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/livefeeds/16k.asx


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  • StillJill StillJill

    I now look at what TPTB DO,…not say.

    1) They are moving companies away from Japan.
    2) They are shutting down power plants nearby.

    This tells me, by their actions,…that THEY are considering this whole place a ticking time bomb.


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      I think your right. The SILENCE by the MSM tells me it’s much worse than we could ever dream possible. Look at the news from yesterday right here. “Mystery explosion at Reactor No. 4 caused by radiation dissolving water in boiling spent fuel pool”
      There is nothing on the front page at HP about Japan AT ALL.


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  • Daruma

    birth defect are starting in fukushima prefecture, there a message from twitter, @JUN_Raelian: 白河の友人から電話「奇形の子が3人も生まれたわよ」「一人は郡山で早産で口唇口蓋裂の子」「一人は浪江町で片腕のない子」ここまで聞いて気になったけど「3人目は」と聞く気になりませんでした。「放射能が原因だと思うけど、大きな声ではいえないわよ
    A friend from Shirakawa on the phone : “We have three deformed people. On child is a preterm born child, with deformed lips and cleft palate. One other child born without an arm in the city of Namie. I also heard there was a third person. I think the cause is radioactivity, but I can’t say it aloud.”
    it is on translate fukushima facebook’s pages, check it up please

    i will double check it but a friend of me from tokyo told me there are some case of deformed baby’s borns up to east of aichi prefecture (some 300 to 400 km away from there)


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    TWEET JUST CAME THROUGH. Giant Nuke Weapons Aimed at the US, Switched ON
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/16/fukushima-japan-goes-to-war/
    WOW! What more can be said. Excellent analogy to what Fukushima is spewing. :(


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    • theypoisonus

      GREAT !

      That is Bob Nichols. I wrote him about 10 days ago with some info as he has been on top of this to a degree from day one.

      I BEGGED him, when time allowed to do another article as things were getting worse.
      I also wrote Howard Duff.

      Both these guys have been busy with 9/11 stuff and they do speaking engagements, etc. so I’m not surpised that they couldn’t jump on it the next day, PLUS , I’m sure they wanted to do their own research.
      I gave them web sites to check, here, fukudiary, EX-SKF etc.

      The ‘PLAN’ is coming together ! YES !! :)

      THIS is NOT a FAIL ! :)
      we never forget
      we never forgive


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      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Man, Bob outdid himself with this one didn’t he?
        I’m so glad you gave him everybody’s info! Hope he keeps on this!


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        • Whoopie Whoopie

          Coming back, I checked Arnie’s page and thought WTF!??!?! Where has he been, anyone know?


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          • theypoisonus

            Yes, they had two seminars. The second one was at the horrid plant in Vermont.

            I sent him that ‘odd’ not new vid that was on Fuku diary the other day, to get his opinion.

            They were supposed to be back on the 13th. Got a robo mail back telling me their iteneary. :)

            I work behing the scenes. LOL
            We are small voices, we need BIG VOICES. Let’s hope that VT article shakes things up a bit.

            Bob sure does know how to come up with a ‘shock’ title to his stories ! lol


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            You HAVE been busy!! I’m so glad! And yes, we are only small fish – we NEED BIG VOICES speaking out. I’m looking forward to Arnies NEXT REPORT. It cant come soon enough. And Bob?! What better way to get ATTN than a title like that, eh?


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  • theypoisonus

    Whoopie
    Gud to see you girl !

    Selfsoverign posted this yesterday:
    home page: http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/index.html

    FUKUSHIMA PAGE:
    http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/journal/volume5.html

    I STRESS ! This woman is amazing. Her father is a Nuclear Physisit and she has learned alot from him. She loves fast motorcycles and photography and takes trips through the ‘dead zones’ to record it for properity.

    Her site is self funded ! And too much traffic may take it down, however, I think all in Japan should read the Fukushima page at lease. Need help to mirror her FUKU page !
    I don’t know how. ANYONE WILLING TO HELP???
    WE need to get it up on FukushimaDiary for those people !

    She only gives a brief couple of comments but boy, they say alot ! on Fuku page and then she relates an interview someone from Malta did with her in April.

    What she says on that one page is enough to let the Japanese know the truth, or anyone else for that matter.

    I was there untill 9:30 last night and got more education from her pictures and comments than I have in 5+months on this board. She breaks down radiation mumbo jumbo VERY well in spurts of comments along her travels/pics.

    I found her snail & email address and would love to ‘converse’ with her. I will, at very least send her MONEY to help support her effort/site to record Chernobyl for us all and future generations, if there are any. :(


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Wow! I just read her journal on Fukushima…she SOUNDS LIKE ENENEWSER! She “gets it”.
      TY! I’ll have to spend some time there. Will post to HP so people will visit. If I had money, I’d send her some. Hope she writes you back. I’ll drop her a note too. THANKS!


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      • theypoisonus

        Whoopie

        I have other replies to you above, YOu are back in fast mode I see ! LOL
        Always skim back to see if you get replies , girlfriend !! :)

        She is amazing. I was on her site at least 6 hours yesterday. She was a child when Chernobyl happened and her father sent the family far away.
        She feels a deep responsibility to record this.. it is decaying from people having to leave and even the roads are slowly decaying, homes falling down, etc. Nature is taking over.

        Wonderful pictoral documentary. I commend her bravery ( with knowledge , she always takes a rad meter with her ) and desire to record the hundreds of miles of devastation caused by Chernobly.


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      • Whoopie Whoopie

        I must admit, coming back to this feels strange and weird. The news isn’t good but it’s REALITY. The break I took did me good. If anyone of you are feeling stressed, I highly recommend it. I worry about EVERYONE watching THIS unfold. SERIOUSLY. :(


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    • Sickputer

      You did see what I posted about the motorcycle photographer last night? I have been around the Net a long time and when something seems a little odd I check it out. I’ll leave it at that… Make your own decisions about the validity of that site.


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  • theypoisonus

    I do take breaks. When the weather cools off, I will be able to get outdoors and work again.

    I found a greenhouse and am buying it later today. They will deliver it first of next week . 10′ X 12′, steel frame with green corragated fiberglass ( even the heavier plastics don’t hold up to Fl. sun long ), is already wired, and has steel shelves also.

    I have wanted a g-house for 35 years. I can grow our greens, tom., peppers, etc. in there this winter when rad threat makes it down here.
    Come on cooler weather.. please !


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      That is so neat! I’m glad your getting one. Plant away…looks like we’ll need every precaution we can take.


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    • lam335 lam335

      re: “this winter when rad threat makes it down here”

      Why do you say this in this way? Hasn’t the fallout already reached Florida? Is there a change in the Jet Stream in winter that will bring more fallout to the South? Do you know if larger quantities are going to reach South America too?


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      • theypoisonus

        I saw that because as a rule, I watch weather trends alot. Living as long as I do, you tend to get interested in things you never thought of and took for granted when you were younger.

        The Jet Stream does not flow over the Southern Hemisphere. It will take about 2-3 years for it to get down there unless things get drastically worse over there, which is a fear I have had for 3 months and counting.

        Those people have no idea what they are doing, there is no road map for this !

        During Winter months, in the US, we have fronts that come down from Canada and the Artic. They push the weather /jet stream further down to the lower states and we get colder weather, etc.
        Right after fuku happened, we had a cloud of Iodine hanging over N. Fl. for 3 solid days, then it disipated a bit.

        We have been fairly lucky this summer, but with the Winter months coming on, the N. winds will bring down more and this time it will be cessium 134-137.

        I buy only Milk from Orlando Fl. and have for over 3 months. I look at the labels of all other dairy. RIght now, my cottage cheese is coming out of Ill. but this winter, I won’t buy that. If I can’t find it from further S. then I will have to do without.

        The green house is an added precaution + I have wanted one for years. My veggies this winter will be grown in there.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Now THAT was scary!! Enenews down for so long.
    MONEY BOMB TIME
    LOOK AT WHO IS REPORTING THE NEWS!!
    Eplumbing Repair!
    ‘Toxic water overflow looms at Fukushima, leaks threaten clean-up’
    Posted on Friday, September 16th, 2011
    http://eplumbingrepair.com/toxic-water-overflow-looms-at-fukushima-leaks-threaten-clean-up/#comment-2561


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  • uhoh

    My Fuku moment that scared the crap out of me: Aside from being a bit tired the past week I felt totally fine. I laid down to sleep Tuesday night and started hacking all of a sudden. Kept hacking a few minutes then next thing you know, out of the clear blue I’m coughing up blood! One of the first things that came to mind is that I was one of the unlucky ones to inhale a plutonium particle and this was it for me — the beginning of the end. Was so freaked out I called 911. Just got out of the hospital yesterday. They say I have pneumonia but I don’t feel like I have a cold or congestion or anything like I’d expect with pneumonia. Just a little tired, a slightly heavy chest, a sore throat and coughing up the blood. I hope they’ve got the diagnosis right! The antibiotics have eliminated most of the blood so that’s a positive sign but I’m still kind of freaked out by the whole thing. I’m located in northwest Pennsylvania. Has anyone else experienced same? Thanks!


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      I’m glad to hear your feeling better. I don’t know what to make of that. And leave it to doctors not pin point it better than that. Saw a link earlier today where MD’s are not checking or diagnosing for radiation.


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      • arclight arclight

        hi whoopie…glad to see you back!! :)


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      • uhoh

        Thanks for the well wishes Whoopie. I’m thinking positive and trying not to dwell on it. I have a geiger counter and take readings when possible but have been so busy haven’t done it near as much as I’d like to. Anyways, so far I haven’t found anything over 39 cpm which isn’t to bad. But they say all it takes is one particle …… That’s what gets you thinking when something freaky like that happens!


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        • Whoopie Whoopie

          You are right uhoh. Remember when Arnie addressed the Hot Particles? And this thing hasn’t ended. Glad to hear you got a counter too. Wish I could afford one. But at least many of you are KEEPING TRACK. TY!


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  • UnInhabitonium

    Don’t really know what I’m doing, my first forum so please be gentile.
    Sent a comment but not able to get it on post, some kind of interuptions my fault probably.

    N. Willamette Valley Oregon-Late July
    Cesium cloud got me. Massive sore throte, burning eyes,cough for 4 weeks.
    Pharmasist and Doc say blackout includes OHSU no info and all Govt. monitoring turned off.
    West Coast Schools complicit, although Berkley seems to have at least one Human Being chekn’ the milk.
    When I got hit in Oregon City, another cloud west to east went over OSU in Corvallis the same day. My brothers Chem. Eng. degree from there. NO INFORMATION on this episode.
    Everyone with a working scientific brain is scared shitless from the silence.
    Thanks for all yer a doin’ here.
    UnInhabitonium (Uh)New Element=The ultimate in mankinds arrogence.


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  • I think this is the insidious nature of this disaster.

    It is almost impossible to prove empirically that any one person’s illness is attributable to the effects of low-(or not so low)-level ionizing radiation even though population statistics show spikes in illnesses and birth defects.

    The evil nuclear industry knows this. Complicit government officials know this. Complicit health officials know this.

    However, many of the illnesses in Japan will probably be acute enough to attribute directly to radiation exposure because their exposure levels are going to be so incredibly high when all media are included–air, water, food, soil etc.


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    • ‘Deniable Credibility’ is a tough one to counter.

      The people of Japan and elsewhere will and are showing signs of acute radiation contamination yet all officials will empirically deny the facts and most likely will say that increases were caused more by stress factors and not radiation. (or something to that affect)

      …and yes, the “spreadation” of radiation contamination is insidious! (beyond our wildest imaginations) The ‘experts’ know this.


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    • Bobby1

      Yes, it’s almost impossible to prove that these symptoms are due to radiation exposure.

      On the other hand, it is equally impossible to prove they are NOT due to radiation.

      The nuclear industry should be considered guilty until proven innocent.


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  • UnInhabitonium

    Tried to post again Refresh 3x and my LAN stopped…Never done that before, I have good hardware-Wierd?
    Anyway, this place and you all are doing a great service to get the word out.
    Anyone got anything on the magnetisphere changing?? Just a thought on how the guy in PA got hammered, must just be the Jet carrrying it over.
    Incidius is right majia, let us not forget, just one cloud piddled on a couple of pastures in UK, still no go 26 years later…
    My Doc said infant death up 30% here after the big fuki pop, went down a bit, then since the middle of July, ticking ever so slightly up.
    Now there is no data to suggest better or worse.
    “The Tiger will never get loose”
    TMI- Jimmy was clobbered by the industry
    Strike ONE!
    Chernobyl-The Tiger poisons a whole region-Strike TWO!!
    Fuki-The Tiger ROARS!!!
    STRIKE THREE!!!
    Stupid is as STUPID does
    -Mrs. Gump


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Howdy Uninhabitorium!
    You have at least one other Willamette regular here,
    and, the magnetosphere/pole-shift stuff is interesting to
    those of us who are interdisciplinary but some may scold you
    for stepping beyond their comfort/understanding zone.
    ….YES ABOUT LAN or Computer shutdowns!
    I have experienced it several times after posting, or while
    attempting to post stuff here!
    And Yes, also, the initial strong jet-stream-plume weirdly
    curved down the East coast to hit Florida particularly then.
    And yes, Uninhabitorium,
    I will always be “Gentile”, tee hee hee!…
    Even so, I am grafted in to the Tree by the Blood of Yeshua!
    Halleluyah!


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  • UnInhabitonium

    Hello Elenin,
    By your name, may I add this;
    Via ham radio, khabarovsk seems to be getting the crap knocked out of them, but I have not found a radio net for contamination on 20 meters yet.
    There will be something develop but my few contacts don’t have anything set up that I know of.
    I have full HF privlages so no restrictions.

    Had transmitter fixed, but not back on the air yet.
    Know anything on HF??
    Anybody??


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  • UnInhabitonium

    I may be wrong here, but doen’t that give you poison oak?


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Uninhabit….
    Ow! I have had horrendous scratchy poison oak, doing
    yard work in Cali. narsty! I wish I was a real radio-man.
    It is a good and important thing you do…to get some folks
    communicating on your various channels. The Contamination
    Alert network sounds like a great idea.
    I bought a cheap multi-band receiver and never opened up the
    spool-able string antenna, years ago.


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  • UnInhabitonium

    We must now fight against coporate and government tyranny of supprest information.
    Renew your vow to humanity, not the ones we oppose, but for those we must save.

    For we few, we very few, we band of brothers we will win this day, and when we do, we will move to win this war.
    For this Day, this fine fine day, is St Chripians Day!

    Now I must toggle off
    might be back later this evening


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  • pure water

    We just need to spread information . And take care, as till now, to distinguish between facts and theories. Congratulations All, you are doing it better than those in the Academies! May be we should be more brave when proposing ideas. Just saying it is an opinion, and tell what you see as probable.
    For example I am wondering why they started to pump more water at unit 2 and 3 and think about the same with unit 1. It was yesterday, before the earthquakes.Why?
    Sorry, i never stop asking and guessing


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