Japan Journalist: Melted nuclear fuel going through Fukushima containment vessels, they don’t even know where the 3 reactor cores went — Senior Scientist: I’m being told Japan may never be able to remove radioactive materials from site; ‘Solution’ may be to leave it in place (AUDIO)

Published: June 10th, 2014 at 9:44 pm ET
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ABC Radio (Australia), June 9, 2014:

  • Mark Willacy, ABC correspondent: Since the accident [at Fukushima Daiichi], the nuclear cores have melted, they’ve gone –  leached through some of the pressure vessels and going through what they call the containment vessels… In fact, they don’t even know exactly where  those melted radioactive cores are. They know they’re down there  somewhere. […] Tepco said “We think one’s eaten through about a meter of the concrete containment vessel, but we can’t be sure.”
  • Full ABC interview available here

WBUR, June 9, 2014:

  • Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution: They can’t get into a lot of those buildings and the core where the fuel rod meltdown occurred. You don’t really know how easy it would be to extract any of the most concentrated materials… The solution then to either entomb, leave in place, or remove can’t be made until you know more. I’m hearing 30, 40, 50 years and really open ended as to whether they can really remove the radioactive materials from the site — Although we have to somehow stabilize. Getting water out of those buildings is important so you can actually make those assessments. In the short term, they’ve got some serious issues with just what’s already been stored and leaking on that site, and helping the public understand what’s going on.
  • Full WBUR broadcast here
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108 comments to Japan Journalist: Melted nuclear fuel going through Fukushima containment vessels, they don’t even know where the 3 reactor cores went — Senior Scientist: I’m being told Japan may never be able to remove radioactive materials from site; ‘Solution’ may be to leave it in place (AUDIO)

  • Sickputer

    The nucleoapes know as much now as they did on 311…absolutely a nightmare out of control global nuclear disaster.

    Enenewsers promoted these same suppositions from the first days of the Fukushima disaster. We were and still are called fear mongers.

    Wear their scorn with grace. They have no compassion to save even their own families so obviously we are dealing with subhumans. Blinded by money issues while the Northern Pacific inhabitants suck in Dr. Frankenstein toxins.

    Take measures for your own families. Some naked ales will succumb much faster than others because of poor planning and because of proximity. Central Japan residents are in a very bad situation. Not much to do to stop their progressive death march.


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    • jec jec

      Ever wonder if humans did this before in the far far past? Ever wonder where the large humanoids who are called 'snowmen', sassquaches and such came from? Might have had DNA damage..

      While this is totally unprovable..its what WE are going to become..lost members of the human race.if we survive..!! Death from cancer is not fun..


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        was having the discussion today, jec, with a friend. Homo sapiens simply outflanked competitive hominin clade and annihilated them. Sadly, only the lore of Sasquatch-like Hominidae is what remains of human speciesism. If there were any mutations that occurred, it resulted in humans…


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      • We Not They Finally

        Cultures all over the world record cataclysms like an ancient world-wide flood. That can be recovered from. Whatever is left after the devastation is still genetically normal and can rebuild cultures.

        Nuclear disintegration, worse progressively down the generations, unclear that ANY planet can recover from that. Almost all known mutations are destructive ones that impede functioning, not just in humans but all animal and plant species.

        The generally proposed theory is that supposedly mutations happen naturally through a process of better adaptation. But that's not even the model here — just random destructive assaults on the genomes of the world.


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      • jamesofthecommons

        jec; you might be on to something.the vedic scriptures do contain verses alluding to a distant time when man may have engaged in nuclear warfare ! The bible in fact, does say that what has happend in the past will happen and vice versa.Very interesting!


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    • Proton

      just in case anyone forgot –

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndtcw6Os-wo

      truly was the BIG cat gettin' out of the bag…

      When will any of these "expert(s)" start discussing this in a real truthful manner? Not in the more accepted-by-their-bosses "lie-your-ass-off-and-pray-to-your-official-Jesus-AK47-from-walmart" BS…


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    • Stax Stax

      Alfred Webre/Leuren Moret this latest vid IS the awakening tool and must be watched and shared.

      http://youtu.be/OKMxMFNUSpo


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      • We Not They Finally

        Peeked at the beginning of this one. Saying that this was intentional extermination that HAARP Tesla technology can reverse.I doubt either part. I think that the pathological hubris of TPTB blocked them from seeing all kinds of "unintended consequences." Now it's pervasive and I doubt they can stop it from getting worse. Possibly alleviate something in some small area of the world (I don't know) but the ELE chips are in.

        Like Leuren Moret but she can go pretty deep-end.


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  • Southbound Southbound

    Sweeping the problem under the rug is NOT AN OPTION! Round up the pro-nukers, hand out shovels, and tell them to dig it up and store it in the proper kind of kitty litter! Personal protective gear is optional, but since radiation is supposedly good for you (according to the pro-nukers), don't expect to distribute too many dust masks.


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  • jec jec

    So, TEPCO "helping the public understand what’s going on".. would be funny if not so tragic. TEPCO does not have a clue on whats going on..or if they do..they are certainly not helping ANYONE understand 'whats going on.' Lies and more lies from TEPCO about the entire worldwide mess they have made. And the nuclear lobby and all world governments are going right along with Japan…DOWN THE NUCLEAR RADIATION TUBE.

    One has to wonder where the world government members have safe guarded THEIR children…we have an idea Japan has sent theirs away from danger areas.


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  • Argo Argo

    Fukushima is a triple Chernobyl, pls see the Video about Chernobyl:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfg1sw_chronicle-of-severe-days_webcam

    in order to understand the magnitude of 3 Chernobyls in Japan. That Japan is downplaying this nuclear catastrophy, that Governments dont care about their Citizens (see Ukraine i.e 800000 Liquidators dead, Belarus, Poland, Germany etc who were affected by the Fallout of Chernobyl (apparently ONLY 985000 dead – no its way more and you know it), Japan US Canada with Fukushima) is one indication how much they CARE for their Citizens.

    You (The Governments) should have done the right thing, and should have accepted all consequences. You knew the risks related to atomic energy. You knew what you were doing.

    There is no excuse for what you have done.

    I will never forget.


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    • Southbound Southbound

      Japan downplaying this catastrophe? Nonsense! Just smile and radiation will have no harmful effects on you!

      I can't imagine the USA taking responsibility and accepting the consequences for peppering Iraq with depleted uranium rounds. Imagine if every senator who voted for the war had to adopt one of the children born with birth defects caused by exposure to those toxins. Then again, it's nearly impossible to prove that… And there lies the problem. A separation, a buffer, between what we know, and the amount of time it takes to effect us. Add a bit of ignorance, a broken education system, and a corporate media, and here we are. Oh, don't forget the massive amounts of money supporting this insane industry.


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    • Ontological Ontological

      Only for the reactor cores, and there was WAY more fuel inside each of the 3 cores at FUKU. Also FD1 R3 detonated into the atmosphere unlike the Russian reactor. Now let's talk all the spent fuel storage Chernobyl did NOT have on site, that FUKU did…


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      • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

        It IS POSSIBLE TO PROVE: for example Chris Busby proves that Depleted Uranium was found in hair samples.

        Conclusions:
        Whilst caution must be exercised about ruling out other possibilities, because none of the elements found in excess are reported to cause congenital diseases and cancer except Uranium, these findings suggest the enriched Uranium exposure is either a primary cause or related to the cause of the congenital anomaly and cancer
        increases. Questions are thus raised about the characteristics and composition of weapons now being deployed in modern battlefields

        https://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1752-1505-5-15.pdf


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        • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

          URANIUM 235: “Then (we) decided to go ahead & … look at a group of parents of children with congenital malformations.” “(We) took hair samples from these people and we analyzed those hair samples.” “We looked at 52 elements in the hair samples of these people …The only thing that could explain (the congenital malformations) was uranium.” Further analysis showed that the uranium was “Manmade enriched uranium” [U-235] “Enriched uranium is a material that should only be found in a nuclear power station or inside an atomic bomb. So to find it in the hair of the parents of these children with congenital malformations was really astonishing.” “So we then went to look to see how this could be … we concluded from various patents from the US patent office that we received from physicists, that it was quite entirely likely that there was a New secret weapon being used (in Fallujah), an anti-personnel weapon of some sort which contained enriched uranium or else generated enriched uranium.” Dr. Busby suggests that a new nuclear weapon such as a “Neutron device which uses enriched uranium” was used in the Fallujah military battles of 2004.

          http://www.countercurrents.org/hamer220313.htm

          Detecting Radiation http://medical-wiki.com/uncategorized/detecting-dna-damage-to-radiation-incident-victims/

          http://www.radiationanswers.org/radiation-introduction/detecting-measuring/bioassays.html


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  • Ontological Ontological

    The answer to the where to put hot tower materials, don't do anything. Leaving it will only fester and become a dire nasty itch that must be scratched, and they will eventually bulldoze the entire mess into the ocean. Case closed, fortune gained. Next.

    Somehow I personally believe even attempting to do so is too much to handle for these incompetents. Enjoy your 'clean' water while you can, there is a dire emergency for fresh water on this planet, and it also is being ignored. Oxygen depletion will increase dementia patterns along with bio accumulation. People will appear to snap and go crazy more and more. Police have already started in many cities, a war of them against the local citizens. This insanity will grow into impossible situations with too many bullets and not enough sanity. Militia is loaded to the hilt, FEDs like FEMA are loaded to the hilt. Governments pointing fingers in all directions looking for a war. WTF???

    So much for the future solutions we have all so eagerly awaited. We will now be forced into battle to the death with police over some lunatic's idea of clean energy, even while the morons push to construct even more of these mindless, PU making death machines world wide.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    What is the future of that island ?


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      It'll look like Mars in a few years. Everything dead.

      And like cancer, it will spread around the Earth until nothing is left but rock and water. If the atmosphere can't repair itself with no oxygen (all the phytoplankton gone) and no ozone layer, the space radiation will burn everything left living into dust.


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    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

      TheBigPicture….you have a very apt moniker for this site…as for the future of Honshu, and likely with the bigger picture, you mean all of Japan, geophysically, nationally, etc, I immediately recall Edgar Cayce's prediction made long ago, which I read also many decades back and always remembered (but he, the master channeler, directly wouldn't have because he was in an unconscious state dictating to his secretary)…his prediction was that Japan was going to sink into the sea.

      Obviously, that sinking wasn't meant to be just the few feet it went down in the northeast of Japan during the 3/11 quake…and you might've heard that a part of that coast formerly above at high tide is now under. Why I say 'obviously' is that a prediction from a person such as Cayce is supposed to be something significant, so I expect the aforementioned few feet of drop is just a precursor event.

      My sense is the major sinking, as per his prediction, will definitely take place, enough to be a colossal, unfathomable loss. After all, as so many now are aware, the area around Tokyo itself is at the juncture of 3 major tectonic plates (I could be mistaken, as there could be a 4th I don't recall), so there is a potential for tremendous subterranean movement the likes of which we in the modern era have yet to see.

      And I have a feeling of another possibility…that the current Fukushima NPP disaster will worsen, such that Japanese citizens will have to be….


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      • PaciFistic PaciFistic

        …evacuated en masse, and the entire country will be in emergency mode. Nations such as Canada and Australia would likely be ones to accept evacuees, possibly even Russia, or Brazil. So the Fukushima event has happened, in one sense, so that the Japanese may not all perish. None of this is speculation on my part, it's a feeling. That's the premonition I have of the future of Japan. In fact even before Fukushima really gets worse (and it will get worse likely as the result of another big shake), I'm almost certain something else quite dire is going to take place, which unfortunately I cannot discuss. The sinking of Japan will freak out the rest of the world, but the prior events I just mentioned will first do in their economy, sending a great shock to that of the rest of the world. The global economy in any case is in big trouble, among other outmoded systems of the present order.

        Btw, BigPicture, before I close, in the short time I've been commenting here, your presence to me has been quite noticeable…namely, in the great contrast between the name you use and the brevity of your comments….mind you, like today you make big comments/ask big questions.


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  • Argo Argo

    Great Documentary..please spread fare and wide…(if not already)

    http://nuclearexodus.com/nuclear-exodus-full-doc/


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  • Shaker1

    I'll admit that I can't get too upset on hearing what I and others have suspected all along. But it really and truly upsets me to think of management of this (and Hanford, and Myak, and LNL, and INL, and Oak Ridge, and Savannah, and…) that somehow someone could actually think that everyone from their elected government representatives to the scientists to the corporate bigheads who get paid big bucks are worth anything at all. The standards to which they are held are just appallingly poor. While it's been time to something more than shuffle shit around at the site, I do hope that somehow they can manage to keep it from getting worse, which despite what some think, it could be.

    Personally, I didn't have any hope of 'recovering' the melt-outs since day one. Oh, I guess they might, if half the world took part and the other half was set busy diggin graves. And while the majority might be some blob with undefined geometry, knowing the geometry doesn't approach the immediate problems of airborne and water-borne release or the fact that as they pussyfoot around they could allow the site to degrade to the point that all the other nuclear material there is in jeapordy of joining the blobs. They've had three years to create infrastructures above what already exists (which can't begin to handle the nuclear material available) to do this, and made little progress.


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  • I got ten minutes to address a meeting in the House of Parliament on the third anniversary of Fukushima. Here's the link.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDtOV3f2hyQ
    Let me know what you think, and advise me where best to post it on enenews.
    I've read enenews every day since 11 March 2011. Thankyou for your help. Forward!!


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  • Is it horrible of me to have a "meh" reaction to this? I mean we all knew this already. What has me wondering is why are they saying this now when we all very well knew they had this info from day one. Or better yet what are they tring to hide or cover up by telling us this? It's not because they care; I feel something bigger has happened that we may not have factored in… I don't know, it's just a feeling.

    On a side note I also have a feeling there are "famous" people who lurk on this site who think just like you and me that could very well make a difference in getting the word out be it government officials, stars, scientists but don't have the balls and this message is for them: All the money we have given you and all the fame doesn't mean a damn thing. You and yours will die just like the rest of us from this and if that is what you want then you just keep on lurking. But for the love of this planet and humanity I really hope you grow a pair and help us get the word out. It's the least you can do.

    Sorry for the rant friends. Me needs a drink :)


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  • jackassrig

    "Solution’ may be to leave it in place" The corium will not be in a place. It's going down down down down.


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  • Nick

    I shake my head.

    You tell me that NO ONE in corporate globalwhateverthefuckyoucallit, did not see that FD-NPP was a global fuckupwhateveryoucallit?

    Man. How dumb are you all?

    No. Me? I knew from the get go that this was a game changer.

    Screw you all.


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  • weeman

    You must put what is left of cores back into containment, anything else is not acceptable as you cannot let the contaminated water continue unabated to flow into ocean year after year, after years? Not substianable.
    I suggest that all the engineering schools in Japan and worldwide, dedicate themselves to solve the problems one at a time, for one get the engineering schools to figure away of bring the damaged stack down safely, that is do able, get crackin and none of your balderdash crap and write the blank check.


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    • So wise, weeman…

      Write a blank check to the TEPCO that caused this in the first place.. without structure and a goal, they will spend it on everything except the right thing to do, ice walls, ships, planes, helicopters, gold plated silverware, new suits, new cars, etc. etc.

      The thing needed is for ABE to order the military into Fuku to take over, and ORDER nuclear scientists into the site to be there full time, and ORDER them to find the coriums, in the next year, or else.

      Money and manpower will be provided as long as it moves them to the goal.

      Anything else?

      Waste of time

      waste of money

      Waste of energy

      waste of breath

      waste of life

      In the end; Armageddon.

      It is VERY obvious that the current plan is NO LEADERSHIP, and to let it all go, and whatever happens, happens..


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  • They will however have to wake up to reality to go there…

    Right now, everyone is in denial, asleep or covering it all up, or all three at the same time.

    That needs to change FIRST.

    No amount of money can do that.

    WAKE UP ABE!!!!

    The fire is eating up Japan, from the inside out, and it will consume the WHOLE NATION. YOU will be to blame. YOU.


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  • 2014 – Fukushima Daichi Still Pouring Radiation Into Pacific Ocean, Mega Nuclear Disaster Just Beginning; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/05/2014-fukushima-daichi-still-pouring.html

    This is just starting, and it will get worse from here, guaranteed.


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  • Radioactive Smoke/Steam Coming Out Of Ground And #3 Reactor Building At Fukushima 2011- 2014 via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/02/tokyo-alert-severe-radioactive-smoke.html

    This is only going to get worse and worse, there is no end to that in sight..

    How much worse are you going to let this get, before you DO SOMETHING…..

    TEPCO?

    ABE?

    Japanese government?


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    • GQR2

      Doc,its going to be Worse than probably even the realists here can imagine what are the other outcomes with behavior like this in the face of this cataclysmic events? It doesn't have to be that way but they want people asleep. And the slumber is deep the shouts of the aware drowned out with propaganda and mis information whole sale character assassination.


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      • Angela_R

        yes, its going to get worse. Check out the videos that Au has posted in off topic forum @ 7.72pm

        I know where one of the entry points to the atmospheric alterations to the Jet streams occurs, where are the others?


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  • Jebus Jebus

    "they-dont-even-know-where-the-3-reactor-cores-went"

    Ooops!. Thats a typo. Here, I'll fix it…

    "they-dont-even-know-where-their-asses-are"

    Over 3 years and the worlds best and brightest, can't figure it out. There are those working on this without sucess.

    A failed technology that, when it fails, it can't be fixed.

    Spot, the corium, does not obey…

    Look at the very first visible admin post to ENENEWS.

    Explosion heard at Japan nuclear plant — “High possibility of meltdown” for reactor No. 1: Government

    Reuters, March 12, 2011 at 12:00 am EST:

    http://enenews.com/reuters-reporting-explosion-heard-japan-nuclear-plant-high-possibility-meltdown-reactor-1-government

    Whats the difference? Three years…

    But ya gotta have faith. Right?

    Only in those whose words bear repeating.

    Sure hope someone's listening…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDtOV3f2hyQ

    There really has never been a better time in human history, for someone in a position of power, to shake the corporate chains, to step up to the plate, and lead.

    Seems kind of important…


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Seems we have morons in charge, since all Nuclear reactors should have shuddered worldwide the very next day as a standard protocol.. :(

    But ya gotta have faith. Right?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    And people wonder why women are have increasing breast cancer rates with both breasts being chopped off and all the other diseases/cancers inflicted on the world's populations? Some would have us think that its from eating too much K40 and salt.. :(

    We must shut this Nuclear Industry down now while we still can… :)

    Someone actually recently stated the Nuclear Power Technology was safe… :(

    Clearly some of us out here are still very delusional …


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  • Dick Shenary

    If you still cling to the belief that the federal governments’ most important job is to protect the safety and health of it’s citizens, take the case of mad cow disease. Not too long ago a meat producer decided that they were going to test for mad cow disease in their products as a competitive advantage. Free Market, why not? The US Department of Agriculture promptly took them to court and got a Cease and Desist order. Now no one can test meat for this rare disease. The federal government went from protecting the people against the abuses of corporations to protecting various industries who continue to abuse the citizens. Or consider the tax subsidies for the gas and oil industry which has the highest revenues in the entire world. The nuclear power industry could not exist without insurance protection and loan guarantees and tax benefits. Now the NPP owners are planning to stick the costs of decommissioning these relic power plants on the tax payers. Almost everywhere you look the federal government, protects the interests of corporations against the interests of the people. Welcome to America the land of fascism, as we lament the loss of true democracy. That is fascism pretending to be democracy all with a smile!


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    • SadieDog

      Dick, welcome if you are new and may I say, you're purty smart. Without limited liability, nuclear could not exist.


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Yes, but.. :)

      But ya gotta have faith. Right?


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      • Angela_R

        obewan,
        I seem to recall that it was said that faith without works is dead. The work that care does, was foremost, in fact without care, it meant nothing.

        Personally, I cannot see that dividing and teasing the isotopes of atoms is productive or caring; they can become insanely angry. Potassium is fine, it works well in bananas, potatoes etc. But if one tried to remove the potassium and put in the singular angry isotope potassium 40…and we ate even a few…
        but nature never made bananas like that!


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  • Dick Shenary

    Thanks SadieDog but I am not new – just reluctant to post and I certainly don't want to offend the NSA.


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  • rogerthat

    From http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-accident-updates.html
    Radiation expert Dr. Jerry Cuttler says the remedy for radiophobia is to discard “politicized science”. His provocative paper is published in the Dose-Response journal. Cuttler says that the first UNSCEAR report on the impact of low dose exposures from Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings in 1945 drew a conclusion not supported by the data. UNSCEAR said that excess leukemia incidence is proportional to dose, but the data itself clearly shows a threshold exposure level below which the effects appear to be beneficial. Cuttler says the conclusions were based on politics rather than science. Cuttler goes on to examine the threshold for harmful effects and the biological mechanism for beneficial effects of low exposures. Low level exposure “up-regulates” our natural cellular and DNA repair mechanisms, while high exposure impairs these processes. Cuttler argues the threshold for biological harm is 2,000 millisieverts per year, which is more than a thousand times greater than Japan’s widely-publicized limit of 1 mSv/yr. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4036393/


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  • Dick Shenary

    Obewanspeaks – Appreciate the smiles but my faith is a little ragged just now. Faith we will survive this incredible mess. Faith that the children of tomorrow can have a decent life. Faith that eventually the people will wake-up and stop this madness. My faith has taken a number of hits since 3/11/11. My faith is not gone as it continues to exist as long as I can exist.


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    • Angela_R

      Actually I think the NSA are as solutions oriented as we are; after all they could close this site tomorrow, but they,as well as many others, hope that there might be some solution out there, that the known experts do not have. The positives as well as the negatives are likely to be being absorbed.

      It won't be the only site, they'll be scouring everywhere for a solution, that is my faith.


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  • Dick Shenary

    Rogerthat – Dr. Jerry M Cuttler is currently a member of the Heartland Institute. This is the organization funded by the oil industry whose main task to to create doubt about man made climate change. He appears to be a major shill for the nuclear industry as well. In a speach to the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission just last year he stated the the hormesis point of good,bad is 700 millisieverts. Apparently the hormesis point varies with his audience. This guy could give junk science a bad name.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    2014 Fukushima Summary:

    Three Rogue Nuclear Reactors melted through containment and out of their reactor buildings. In excess of 250 tonnes of molten nuclear fuel, in a state of ongoing fission, exited the reactor buildings at a temperature of something like 5000C. It is officially unknown where the 3 Rogue Nuclear Reactors are at present. Not so much as a single tonne of this fuel will ever be removed from the ruins, IMHO.

    Groundwater flows under FDNPP at an estimated rate of 1,000 tonnes a day. This groundwater flows through nuclear debris in 3 corium lava tubes, becoming highly contaminated. An additional 300 tonnes of cooling water is pumped into the 3 reactors every day. This water flows down through holes in the containment vessels, and mixes with groundwater. Contaminated cooling water is stored in a leaky tank farm uphill from the reactors. It is unknown how much contaminated water leaks out every day, but the amount is apparently substantial. An estimated 1,300 tonnes of contaminated water from these three streams flows into the Pacific Ocean every day. Nothing has been done since the accident to stop Pacific Ocean contamination. The Pacific Ocean Ecosystem is in a state of collapse.

    Approximately 2/3 of the fuel assemblies have thus far been removed from SFP4. SFP3 is currently having debris removed, in preparation for removal of spent fuel. Ultimately, fuel assemblies from 6 SFPs and the Common SFP will be stored in dry casks on site.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Just think that if we did not have/built Nuclear Power Plants none of the above would ever have been needed or occurred.. :( Nuclear Power will always be a nightmare for this world.. :(

    Our engineers/scientists/brain trust/civic leaders chose very unwisely… :(


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    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

      …..obewanspeaks….NPPs were the result of there being knowledge that such energy was available for tapping, and wasn't the work to access that energy due to there being first the mathematics for it?

      And we know that problem was originally solved by Albert Einstein (by which I do not at all mean this is some Jewish plot). What I'm saying, in short, is knowledge itself is abstractly encapsulated power which we ingest by biting into it upon succumbing to the temptation, i.e., the notion, that it will give us something very desirable. And that there is any temptation in the first place is a result of our human ignorance and lack of sufficient foresight.

      But even if we gain experience, we often fail to learn from it. The idea then is to keep trying. We are allowed a lot tries. But eventually that route gets worn out and rutted. We get into the rut of repetition. Until we come to the end of the road. It seems to me this, for the most part, is where we now find ourselves.

      Some will find a narrow path out of this predicament. We could call them survivors.


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      • Angela_R

        Yes, PaciFistic, knowledge can become a maze, a circular one. Again, I have a flash of the ouroborus.

        Though I am reminded 'when one door closes, another opens'
        However, we cannot determine it,
        in love and peace we walk


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      • VanneV VanneV

        Harnessing of Nuclear Fission
        The Story Of The Atomic Bomb
        1934-1945
        http://www.3rd1000.com/nuclear/cruc18.htm


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        • His first wife, who was a brilliant mathematician, clearly coauthored Einstein's early papers. He also borrowed heavily from a genius Russian mathematician without crediting him. Many have looked into this, believing that he plagiarized both works. MIT has taken to calling those doubters of Einstein's veracity and talents "conspiracy theorists!" Once those labels are all that you have left as ammo to shore up your denial, the truth is not far behind.

          This brief article outlines the controversy above, yet falls towards Einstein while apologizing for having no proof either way, believing that the scientific system with all it's truth detectors in play could surely not have attributed accomplishments to Einstein for which he had little or no hand in actually crafting. After all, his wife was bitter about his affair with another woman and abandoning his children. EWho wouldn't, she became a shrew insisting that his work was actually her work! His son was stand offish and of course he championed his poor dead mother and would say horrible things about his poor misunderstood father who was too brilliant to be tied down to a family after all. After all, Einstein needed to be inspired, to have room to arrive at the theories modern physics chose as their central mistaken themes – big bangs and gravity-accretion formation of the universe and relativity.
          http://www.technologyreview.com/view/427621/did-einsteins-first-wife-secretly-coauthor-his-1905-relativity-paper/


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      • VanneV VanneV

        “Who discovered that E = mc2? It's not as easy a question as you might think. Scientists ranging from James Clerk Maxwell and Max von Laue to a string of now-obscure early 20th-century physicists have been proposed as the true discovers of the mass–energy equivalence now popularly credited to Einstein's theory of special relativity. These claims have spawned headlines accusing Einstein of plagiarism, but many are spurious or barely supported. Yet two physicists have now shown that Einstein's famous formula does have a complicated and somewhat ambiguous genesis – which has little to do with relativity.
        “One of the more plausible precursors to E = mc2 is attributed to Fritz Hasenöhrl, a physics professor at the University of Vienna. In a 1904 paper Hasenöhrl clearly wrote down the equation E = 3/8mc2. Where did he get it from, and why is the constant of proportionality wrong? Stephen Boughn of Haverford College in Pennsylvania and Tony Rothman of Princeton University examine this question in a paper submitted to the arXiv preprint server….”

        http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/aug/23/did-einstein-discover-e-equals-mc-squared


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        • Angela_R

          Possibly the question should have been, not who discovered it, but

          Does E=mc2?

          personally, I cannot see that energy could be equated with mass

          however the answer to me, is now irrelevant.


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          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Angela, I am one that is a firm believer that the equation is reversible and that current understandings of matter and energy being separate is simply wrong. If we can achieve energy from splitting atoms/mass then that energy released was energy in form at one time long ago. Here is some exciting research going on and all formulas should be reversible and these people are on the right track to prove it! :) Enjoy!
            http://www.universetoday.com/112044/physicists-pave-the-way-to-turn-light-into-matter/


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            • Angela_R

              obewan, a quick perusal had me nodding, but I haven't really examined.

              "Here is some exciting research going on and all formulas should be reversible",
              thank you. ffor some years I have saying that no equations can stay constant in an evolving universe..
              They all will have their day.

              However, I suspect that is why they are known as theories, not FACTS.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Pacifist, The discovery was a wonderful thing and we moved too quickly with the application across the globe and without proper foresight. It was based on fear based profiteering and that if we did not move forward someone would use the technology improperly and we would not be able to control such events. The amount of money spent worldwide on this Nuclear technology is/has been staggering and the results have been a disaster for all those millions who have passed away from the diseases this Nuclear technology causes.

        Evolution is a process and we should have taken our/more time… :(


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    • Sol Man

      Sadly, obewanspeaks, it is because it was never about the power; not the KW, anyway.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        There are kinds and forms of what we perceive as power..this Nuclear was a bad choice right from the get go. They were fully aware what they were doing when they made these decisions and it really was all about the money they received from such folly and then they threw the dice and sadly they came up with snake eyes.

        Time to shut them all down worldwide and back away from the game board/table. :)


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  • ralban

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  • Seeker

    Thank you, everyone, for your contributions here.

    Two questions:
    1. On May 26 Shimatsu said there will be a huge problem with tritium spread, and that it will reach the U.S. in 18 months. It cannot be removed from water by R.O. Once it reaches 30% of what we drink it is lethal. Anyone have any more info on this?
    2. Has anyone seen references to sending spent fuel into space? Would it be safer on satellites?

    Many thanks.


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  • Crickets Crickets

    I used to feel like I was doing something healthy by turning the soil in my garden, out in the sunshine, getting exercise, growing my own organic food. Over the past few days I've been trying to enjoy this, what has become a Springtime ritual for me and my family. But, in the back of my mind, I could only think about what I was breathing, what effect the atmosphere was having on my flesh, lungs and brain. I thought that it might be healthier to stay inside sitting on the couch watching T.V. What kind of a world have humans created where we can no longer feel safe in our natural environment under the sun, moon and stars? It's maddening!


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    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

      …….Crickets….I understand your dilemma….between "a rock and a hard place"…myself, the only route out of it, I feel, is a so-called spiritual one, not that I'm trying to sell you here.

      Your physical/material circumstance need not change much to accommodate, though that would depend on any disconnects that might get revealed as a result of inner discovery of 'spirit' and its potential (which discovery would provide insights that would allow you to enjoy the moment fully as it arrives, as those insight could extend also into the practical realm).

      Just some thoughts.


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  • Awww Crickets, I hear the same thing from other online friends in different parts of the country. We have lost so many innocent modalities. Really sucks. I'm still wondering about the lack of earthworms when I garden. :(


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