Japan Paper: We face a problem so large at Fukushima… we’re unable to grasp what’s happening — “Battle against radioactive water in doubt… impossible to deal with” at this time — Journalist: “3 years after nuclear disaster, nothing solved”

Published: May 18th, 2014 at 3:46 pm ET
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Mainichi Daily News, May 17, 2014: Outcome of battle against radioactive water at Fukushima plant in doubt — We are facing a problem so large it’s impossible to see all its dimensions. Eventually, we’ll be able to grasp what’s happening, but for now, no. [...] There is the relentless flow of the groundwater, a massive amount of it gushing into the plant’s basements every day. [...] If this water pours into the reactor buildings and touches the atomic fuel inside, it picks up high concentrations of radioactive material [...] At the moment, this radioactive water is impossible to deal with. [...] I remembered the afterword from the historical novel “A Record of the Battle of Leyte” by the late Shohei Ooka. Ooka wrote that one’s own experience of combat cannot define an entire war, and that he had written the novel from his own reminiscences combined with prolonged research. [...] We are now three years into the Fukushima nuclear crisis. We still cannot see everything that’s going on. What we can say for certain, though, is that neither the radiation nor the contaminated water at the plant is getting any less, and there is no guarantee that the battle against them will turn in our favor.

Mainichi Daily News, May 18, 2014: Journalist makes documentary film after spending 2 years in Fukushima [...]  He would spend 20 years reporting on Palestine, and 10 years covering Iraq’s depleted uranium rounds. [...] Despite his time reporting from battlefields, [Naomi] Toyoda was still struck with doubt while working in Fukushima Prefecture. “I didn’t know what I should do,” he says, to help the residents there who have been forced to live their lives together with the threat of radiation. [...] Toyoda, in an expression of determination, says, “Three years after the nuclear disaster, nothing is solved. I’m going to keep on reporting.”

See also: Japan Media: “Things are going badly” — Fukushima “the same as war” says military officer in charge of forces at plant — Concern “workers on-site do not consent to join battle” — Leaks are out of control

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173 comments to Japan Paper: We face a problem so large at Fukushima… we’re unable to grasp what’s happening — “Battle against radioactive water in doubt… impossible to deal with” at this time — Journalist: “3 years after nuclear disaster, nothing solved”

  • jec jec

    And the coverups continue, remember the NBC report on how the USA covered up the danger of Fukushima, and nuclear plants in the USA?
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fukushima-anniversary/u-s-nuclear-agency-hid-concerns-hailed-safety-record-fukushima-n48561


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    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Why would people in the USA care about what happens in Fukushima? They don't care that thousands upon thousands of civilians are being killed around the world to broaden US corporate interests. They don't care the depleted uranium is being spread in the Middle East.

      IMO, unless cars with "Fukushima" graphics plastered all over them, are running over their children in their collective suburban cul-de-sacs, they will not acknowledge, nor be concerned the "problem."

      Now, on the other hand, if Kim Kardashian has to cancel her wedding because she has radiation poisoning, then some will be concerned, but most will not even consider one day it could effect them or their family.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Hi newsblackoutUSA, I'd venture to guess probably 85% to 90% of U.S. citizens don't even realize D.U. is being used or was used in weaponry. Unless they're very aware and internet savvy, they're unlikely to even know about it.

        The campaign of propoganda, psychological conditioning, and disinformation run on the U.S. people has been so thoroughly successful the average person thinks anyone who is "aware" and "awake" is a conspiracy nut or a terrorist.

        My family woke up by chance. One of our other family members pointed out the movie, "Loose Change" to us. Life has never been the same, ever since.


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        • monster

          Most probably think uranium is something you buy from the garden center at Home Depot.


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        • Most people consider anything evil being done by this country out of sight out of mind and they most certainly will not be held accountable for it. In any way.

          Ie, WTC, http://wyynd.tripod.com/wtc.html

          Dimitri Khalezov was a witness to documents from USA informing Russia of the placement of civilian nukes for demolition purposes beneath the WTC…it was and still is a requirment to put up a skyscrapper that you can bring it down.
          A demo system must be approved prior to building approval.
          Nothing new about this.

          The rest is history.

          not to be off the subject here but it was brought up by the movie ref loose change which i don't need to see because i know what they did…..


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          • Oh yes, of all things…speaking to my family/friends they suggest that it's a question of faith what is happening at fukushima, or you might say a question of my "Lack" of faith they must be implying…
            Sure many of you have run into the same silence….on the other end of the phone….
            geez!


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        • But Hotaters, its "depleted" so it must be safe <sarc>


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      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        Don't worry, the bad news will wait for them.


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      • Bay Area Guy 2

        You're right for a number of reasons NewsblackoutUSA. First and foremost, the education system in this country is terrible and we're, at best, producing a whole bunch of kids who have marginal skills at even basic reading comprehension and mathematical skills. We have a political system that's basically one party with slightly different ways of looking at things, but a fundamental desire to perpetuate the party and, so, don't look at what might be best for the nation or the world. They look only at the next election in two, four or six years. We have a media that either hides the issues of the day so no one can see what's going on, or obfuscates them in such a way that even people that want to know what's going on can't fathom it. I used to watch "news" on the cable news channels, thinking they would have a better grasp on national issues. I stopped after I realized that all you got from those shows was someone on the left and someone on the right "discussing" an issue by trying to outscream the other party. That's what passes for "rational discourse" in this day and age. I have my theories on why and when we got here, but that's for another post on another website.


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      • whatamessa

        n.b.a.U.S.A.
        Agreed! you have said the unfortunate truth. We all HAVE TO care about EVERYONE.This horrid mess that we are now facing is all about money for a very few people…punishable,criminal behavior. We have to wake up, and knowledgeable people need to speak out loudly.We all eventually breathe the same air.


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      • nedlifromvermont

        Sadly, … an accurate but regrettable assessment of the current state of affairs in the Unintellectual States of America …

        It will remain our job to awaken the masses, while providing psychic support to our brothers and sisters likewise engaged in this seemingly sisyphean task.

        'Newsers … show some CHEEK!!

        God help Japan, if she will not help herself …

        General Electric … Jefrey Immelt … where are you? You unleashed this fury on the world!!!


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    • Gasser Gasser

      Zager & Evens; In the Year 2525

      Before you read go here first for the gist of it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=izQB2-Kmiic

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~

      In the year 2025

      If man is still alive
      
If woman can survive


      They may find

      In the year 2026

      
NRC gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie

      Everything you think, do and say

      Is in the eavesdropping they took of you today

      In the year 2027


      You ain't gonna have your teeth, won't need your white-outed eyes
      
You won't find an uncontaminated thing to chew

      Nobody's gonna look at you

      In the year 2028

      
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
      
Your legs got nothin' to do

      Some electric wheelchair's doin' that for you

      In the year 2029


      You won't have a healthy husband, won't have a healthy wife
      
You'll see your deformed son, and your daughter too
      
From the side of a long glass decontamination tube

      [Cont']


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      • Gasser Gasser

        [Cont’]

        In the year 2030


        If God's a-coming, it will to radioactive to come here by then

        Maybe he'll look around Himself and say
“
        Guess it's time for the judgement day"

        In the year 2031


        God is gonna shake His mighty head

        He'll say "I'm pissed where man has been”
        
Shit! tear it down, and start again

        In the year 2032


        I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive

        He's taken everything this old earth can give

        And he ain't put back nothing

        Now it's been only 7 highly radioactive years

        
Man has spent Quad trillion'$ and cried a billion tears
        
For what?, money, he always knew

        Now man's reign is through

        But through eternal night

        The twinkling of starlight

        So very far away

        He'll pollute it too someday

        In the year 2025

        If man is……s~t~i~l~l a~l~~i~~~v~~~~~

        ~Gasser Classic~


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    • TEPCO – where are those three or more lost melted out coriums?


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  • sistahawk

    ..hid concerns..just wait for the next one of these soooo save plants to blow up..cheap energy…lol ( i don't know if this is avaliable in english : Ulrich Horstmann : Das Untier , says a lot about our ignorant species…


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  • norbu norbu

    Like living in a Horror Movie 24/7. Very sad for all Sentient Beings on this planet…..
    N


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    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Agreed Norbu- However, the key word being "sentient" beings…. many human beings today are dead behind the eyes and do not care what happens to anyone, or anything, as long as their life maintains the status quot.

      So many things in this world are overwhelmingly sad.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        newsblackoutUSA, I think most of us have been chemically lobotomized. This is likely due to environmental toxins, GMO's, vaccine adjuvants, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, food additives, our horrible diet, radiation, fluoride (to name but some of the things damaging our bodies and minds) to name some of the culprits. Think of all the chemical and pharmaceutical contaminants entering our water supply, along with chemicals and radiation from fracking, farm runoff (fertiliizers, pesticides, etc.) and it's easy to see we live in a chemical stew.

        Those of us who try to stay relatively clean and free of brain damage from this (oh yeah, I forgot neurotoxins like MSG and aspartame) are in the minority.

        Most people are unable to think straight. They don't even know why. Go and sit outside an average U.S. grocery store, watch people going in and out. How many of them look like they possess vibrant health, have a spring in their gate, and a glint in their eyes? Not many, right?

        They don't even know they've been led like cattle to the slaughter.


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Oh, and I forgot — Dept. of Redundancy Dept.


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        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          HoTaters….I agree…with everything. Don't forget to add TV… this the final nail in the coffin of critical thinking and zombification. Heck, TV has made being a Zombie cool. I see bumper stickers everyday in favor of Zombies, and people claiming they are zombies.

          " Dept. of Redundancy Dept." lmao :- ()


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          you're make'n me sad, HoTaters. I avoid everything you've listed as best one can, but then you go put'n sugar in there. I use relatively small amounts of raw cane sugar in my coffee. Can I let that one slide, or do I have to give up sugar? Tell me what I want to hear…


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Raw cane sugar isn't that horrible. The refined stuff isn't very good for people, though. I have sort of a spiritual distaste for it because I'm reminded of the thousands who labored and died on sugar plantations. It bothers me in the same way eating meat bothers many people, because of cruelty in animal husbandry and agricultural practices.


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          • OK….What I always say is: I eat as healthy as I know how so the bad stuff I eat doesn't kill me off. :)

            (Maybe I should change the last *I eat* to *Fuki dumps on me*)


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          • nedlifromvermont

            AS: use your morning coffee as a maple syrup delivery system, and you can safely ramp up your intake of this anti-radiation blocking agent to easily 4 to 6 oz. a day … you'll thank me …

            also good for keeping your hair color and helping you from developing lung cancer, if you like to smoke pot …

            use the sugar only when you are not near your gallon jug of syrup … which should be never …

            peace …


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        • JMR

          JMR. I have just begun to think about this. What effects do all of these chemicals have on our mental health? Why does it seem more and more outrageous things keep happening and people just accept them? I'm beginning to think that all these chemicals are making people both crazy and apathetic at the same time.


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    • 3 Pandora's Boxes were opened at Fukushima, but there is no way to close them.

      Cold shutdown indeed…….NOT


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  • Ontological Ontological

    3 years later they finally admit they cannot tame the dragon. I have watched tremendous volumes of Cesium pouring out of the wrecked reactors. The hue is in the air all the time now to some degree. The refraction damage to the atmosphere will make the Earth look like an angry orange crescent from on Mars, brighter than any other even Venus in the system due to the reflection of this METALLIC Ce137 forming in the air. This has made it impossibly cold in the upper air and mixed with Methane, the evaporative cooling is too great. Storms will now be way more instance, due to the multiple radio isotopic particulates in the storms themselves. Cesium chloride will etch glass, and the clouds of hydrogen sulfide, and Methane from fracking, and everything rotting in death, will cause vast dementia outbreaks as the radiation increases, and the oxygen depletes.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      fun stuff, Ontological…


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Onto, would you please write to me off-list? I want to see if I can send you a wedge pillow and maybe help you find some low cost solutions for getting your needs met, in terms of ergonomic function and things you need at home.

      HoTaters@hush.com

      Give me a couple of days to get back to you, OK?


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        and you can bounce me an email, HoTaters, at my "Useless Eater (useless2eat@yahoo.com)" account. That way, both email addresses are plugged-in and acknowledged…


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Useless2eat, ha, ha! Great one, AFTERSHOCK!


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          What do you mean "plugged in and acknowledged?"


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Plugged into what and acknowledged? You're spooking me a little here.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AukFsBv2oDY


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            • HoTaters HoTaters

              The first part of that video. The part with the man who thinks "I am," the great computer, and the "there you go, man," guy. Could do w/o all the smarmy movie outtakes that came afterward ….


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            • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

              for the email client, HoTaters. They sometimes treat inbound as spam and you'll miss someone that way…


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              • HoTaters HoTaters

                I see, thank you. If I send an e-mail I'll explain why certain comments you make sometimes spook me. You seem like more or less a very educated libertarian type, and likely a brillant industrial designer or something.

                Sometimes your comments sound almost like a double entendre. Like you could be a really smart front to sniff us out here and get info. on us.

                Things are said that sound almost like they're coming from the Mothership. Forgive me for saying this, maybe I'm paranoid because I say things here which I'm SURE the ptb don't like. Like saying the Royals honeymooned in the Seychelles so they could escape the heavy plumes coming from Fukushima in 2001. Protecting the precious gene pool, you know.

                Things like that. I guess I read too many English novels like 1984 and Brave New World. Sometimes I wonder if my comments will one day come back to bite me, when they come to pull out my fingernails.

                When I read things like local police in central Indiana are being given armored vehicles to counter "the level of violence" they perceive, it gives me pause.

                I like to think I'd be brave if push came to shove, but I don't know how I'd hold up if things really went south. I'm kind of a wuss when it comes to violence and serious social breakdown, martial law, shadow governments taking control, things like that.

                Just don't know if Winston Smith could take it on the jaw if he were me.


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                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  A lot of my relatives survived the Nazi and Soviet regimes in Europe. That probably has a lot to do with my hyper-vigilance about this kind of thing. I do take it seriously.

                  A lot of my relatives were "disappeared" for not going along with the new regimes. Many, many lost all their personal property. Many lost their lives. Some refused to be conscripted in armies, and they lived underground until they were captured and sent to Siberia (???) or were killed.

                  As far as I know, they were not Jewish. But many were intelligentsia. It was not popular to be bright in those days.

                  Ed Snowden deserves a medal for valor.


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                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    Intelligentsia and well educated people. Some were wealthy. Some were just too outspoken.


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                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      wonderful thoughts, HoTaters. You may recall, I'd offered to explore these issues awhile ago, within 'closed' channels. At the time, you were straddling the fence and felt great reservation in privately discussing things with an 'unknown'. Being ever the 'nice guy', I understood your reluctance to delve deeper. I also sensed you were experiencing personal issues that precluded allocating time to 'nonessentials'.

                      Speaking of sensing, I'd like to take this opportunity to acknowledge your excellent intuition. You inquired long ago about something that no one else picked-up on. Your senses carry well over great distance. You're obviously one who's passed through the fire and emerged clear in your vision.

                      Of course, were your more sensitive inquiries true, such exploration within open channels would be – by the very nature of the questions – closed for discussion. Remember the ol' adage that "Those who say, don't know. Those who do, don't say."

                      So, I'll leave 'you' with this: what if what we do out here, is intended for consideration by 'those' who are yet to arrive? Would you not have wanted an opportunity (so few in history are given) to 'talk' to 'them'? Well, I'm that simple 'novitiate' who struggles to keep the 'quill' moving across the 'page'. Concern oneself less with those who unwittingly 'preserve' our words and more with those who'll be one day reading them…


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Onto, i have already noticed degradation in outdoor plastics that's unlike anything I've ever seen. My greenhouses and plastic outdoor coverings are literally rotting. I have to think it's from the intense radiation exposure these items received in 2011 and 2012.

      Have you observed there are things that look almost like dark anvil shaped clouds that sit on the horizon along with the masses of Cesium?

      I posted a hypothesis about what I think is being done to shunt this stuff around through ionization of the atmosphere. Please see my comments at the nuclear issues forum area.

      IMO every time the radiation levels begin to get high in my area, the chemtrailing is increased. The stuff is directed off to the northwest (read away from Sacramento, the capital of California and the more populated areas) and toward Marysville, Yuba City, then eventually over the Sierras to Lake Tahoe and Reno.

      On the other side of the Sierras, there is additional cloud seeding. In my hypothetical view, it is then caused to precipitate out on the eastern (less populated) side of the Sierras. Yes, it's at higher altitudes, but I think some of this stuff is being moved around and precipitated out or caused to make landfall in the Eastern Sierras, intentionally.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        By precipitating, I don't mean just by rainfall or snowfall. I mean the ionized particles drop down as a hazelike substance, and it eventually reaches the ground.

        Have y'all noticed how thick and brown the haze is now, almost everywhere, and how little pure blue sky is ever visible?

        Check it out. Go skywatching. Stare at some clouds. Watch what they do over a couple of hours.


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      • >HoTaters to….Reply
        Onto, i have already noticed degradation in outdoor plastics that's unlike anything I've ever seen. My greenhouses and plastic outdoor coverings are literally rotting. I have to think it's from the intense radiation exposure these items received in 2011 and 2012.<

        OMG yes! My son helped with my greenhouse…put the best greenhouse type thick plastic on it…it's in tatters any place the sheeting moved in the breeze against it's slitted garden hose covered metal ribs. We had made sure there were no sharp edges on the top and curved shape that could create wear against the plastic. 1 1/2 years and it's ruined. He'd had the same plastic last 4-5 years previously on his own Quonset shaped green house structures.


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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          I agree ..plastics are deteriorating ..in a different manner …and faster.


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          • PurpleRain PurpleRain

            Wow. I thought that I was the only person this kept happening too! I leave silly plastic containers outside in my backyard all the time, old plant containers when re-potting houseplants, etc. that kind of thing and within 6 months to a year they are brittle and crack and break and just fall apart totally useless. What the heck is happening???


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          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            All my hoses blew this year and all the plastic skylights on my patio cover melted and warped since 2011. All will have to be replaced.. :(

            I am building a greenhouse using real glass and who knows how long that will last…but I am hoping forever.


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            • What is your cost estimate on the greenhouse with glass and what size….I may be doing the same this fall.

              Some online sources are like $7000 which seems bat shit freakin crazy


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              • clamshellernh clamshellernh

                You see I would go to the dump and get old windows for this , a lot cheaper , not too pretty if you don't have enough matches , but any remodeling job companies would be happy if you took them off their hands too .
                Treasure !


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              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                I bought a whole house of windows that were changed out to knew ones for $240 and this included two sliding screen doors. I picked up for free 4 windows and a glass door for free single pane on craigslist but the key is that they were huge 6' x8'. Very thick glass on the single pane that came out of a house built in the 50's. I will frame it all in 4X4's based on the size of the windows laid out. Biggest cost will be the foundation footers which I want to do with concrete and a gravel floor or similar and labor free, me. Laying all windows on wood lower end boxed 2 feet up then up from there with glass.

                Size should be close 12 x 18 and cost should be about $850-$1100 materials and labor free.


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                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  I am also planning an above ground garden using plastic drums cut 1/2 length wise placed on wood at about 30" off the ground. Do not want to bend over to garden anymore and will tie in a pool with fish to feed the garden with a small circulation pump as needed. I will have 58 of these 1/2 drums to use and place in the 6" high fenced in area in case deer wonder by, but since Fukushima I have not seen any deer in the area. :(

                  Picked up the drums for free from a friend who works in the ag business and they were getting rid of them and I drove the couple hours there and back with a trailer to pick them up. Cost about $450 total materials, labor free, me. I own a gas post hole digger, but will have to buy the fencing and more 4×4 and 2×6 for elevation structures/base and bring in 4-6 yards of top garden soil.


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            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              I think it's partly the materials. I'm still using cheap hoses I bought at K-Mart 25 years ago. I water everything by hand or sprinklers that I move around.


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          • Sickputer

            Re: strange plastic degradation

            All of my internal commode flappers degraded and fell apart in my toilets at my house in the past two months. What are the odds of 32 year-old toilets all having plastic failure within three weeks of each other? Not a coincidence. No wonder I haven't drank public tap water since Johnson was president.


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            • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

              The plastic gutters ..trim on the cars degrading quickly.


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            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              I once put up many herbs to dry , I tied them with rubber bands . This was over ten years ago and about fifty bunches in the rafters …in a two day period two thirds of the rubber bands snapped , what a mess and thank god the wood stove wasn't on …so weird I still wonder and no the rubber bands did not all come from a bag of them ..
              But I'll buy the fuku cause now ..just saying


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          My garden drip hoses were also totally shot after one year. That never happened before.


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Drip hoses used to last 4-5 years. Now done in a matter of months.

            Has something happened to our atmosphere as well, allowing more UV radiation to hit the earth?

            It's creepy hearing several of you have also noticed plastics deteriorating.


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            • HoTaters HoTaters

              No, but got a newer greenhouse supposedly made from plastic that's supposed to be a lot more resistant to UV radiation.

              Thanks, Anne.


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            • Angela_R

              HoTaters,
              I've made a number of comments re the results of an atmospheric test conducted on 10 May. It stated that
              "the halobacteria were hit by ionizing radiation 28 times stronger than at ground level.) For further details see Off Topic discussion thread.


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              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Thank you. I have no idea what you're talking about right now, but I'll check it out, thanks. I appreciate your posts a great deal.


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                • Angela_R

                  Hi HoTaters, in your post @ 12.33am, you queried 'has something happened to our atmosphere as well?"
                  The most recent record shows a report on Radiation vs. Altitude, thus my comment @ 2.52am

                  I think the old premise, 'what goes up will come down' still applies; though some of us would like to alter the course of our ageing.
                  Mind you with the earth tilting, I suspect gravity may be somewhat suspended, so the drooping body may turn upwards. Well, I can hope..


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            • Well there is a magnetic pole flip going on, that reduces the protective effect of atmosphere.

              Might be related to the unbridled greed that is exaperating other problems, as well as creating problems.


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      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        Have you tried UV protected plastic especially made for greenhouses. It isn't any more expensive and is guaranteed to last 4 years. I bought some from Johnny's Selected Seeds at the end of the season on sale.


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        • Yes VannV, as I said…."my greenhouse…put the best greenhouse type thick plastic on it…" :) (Very expensive compared to regular old visqueen but tell that to Tepco.)

          Both of my sons are passionately invested in their organic and sustainable off the grid lifestyles, have OG certified gardens, built many ponds, eco-structures, are 12 volt water supply experts and teach others, so they're not exactly new kids on the block.


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        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Vanne that must of cost you big money , have you tried a greenhouse supply store .


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          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            TY, Chamshellerhn. I did search online and the sale at Johnnys Selected Seeds was the cheapest at that time. I don't drive anymore and I couldn't find a greenhouse supply store anywhere in the Denver area, but I will try again sometime. It was a huge roll and very heavy and was hard to work with, but it is lasting well.


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    • Ontological Ontological

      Glass domes on nature/beach cams are deteriorating also rapidly. I fear soon airliner seals will be effected also. The kinds of super acids formed by this devil's brew will be of MAJOR consequence to future materials we can use for food production, protection, and our oil based food storage. Time to can organic foods in mason jars again if you can find them. Mainly I believe the plastic damage was corexit compounds in the rain mixing with other acids, add the new and even MORE corrosive ELEments entering the atmosphere now, and the results are rapid degradation of oil based polymers, and resins.


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      • Yikes…glass too!? There's never been a movie made as bad as the one we're playing bit parts in.


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        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Huh glass affected .. Did I miss something ? How about metals I read here about rads attaching …could that be proven by using detectors
          I'm sorry if this may be repetitive , there's just so much here that has been discussed and I'm not too technical but learning . Thanks


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          • Shaker1

            It's difficult to know where to insert a comment here, but I think that when looking at materials that we might commonly call 'plastics' and 'glass' it should be realized that all those materials aren't created equally. It's not so easy for us to make the distinctions in these materials as we do with say, metals, when comparing aluminum and iron, though in essence they can be just as different as those two.

            Regarding plastics, one might have to ask whether it's virgin material or recycled, and then have some insight into the methods of manufacture relative to what might have gone on in the past. Glass, I imagine, is somewhat the same from that standpoint. Personally, I'm more trusting of glass, as it's pretty basic technology, but it's rarely what might be considered 'pure'. I think the observations of degradation are valid, just that the questions relating to the degradation are as varied as the materials themselves, from direct chemical action to simple electro-galvanic and, with plastics, UV and causes.

            Personally, I use plastic in foods as little as possible, even down to my coffee cups and drinking mugs. I'd much more trust the chemical make-up of the glaze on my coffee cup (a chemical brew in itself) than anything plastic has to offer.


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    • nedlifromvermont

      Onto … "they" (GE) are not admitting to anything … I have noticed our "cesium sunsets" … the public is overawed …


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    NUCLEAR INDUSTRY CAN'T CONTROL THEIR INVENTION . . .

    One plant spreading radiation around the globe, what a waste.


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  • rogerthat

    From the Mainichi yarn: ''The battle plan calls for contaminated water already pooling in the buildings to be pumped out and stored temporarily in tanks on-site before being put through the ALPS decontamination system, which filters out radioactive elements. To prevent yet more water from coming into the buildings, an ice wall is to be created beneath the ground that will block further incursions.
    However, serious doubts have been raised over the feasibility of this battle plan. The water tanks that now cover much of the plant grounds have sprung leaks, and the ALPS system is plagued by seemingly endless breakdowns. Meanwhile, experts have questioned both the safety and effectiveness of the proposed subterranean ice wall.''

    - maybe they should rush down to the hardware store and get some more duct tape? Or, now that America has (sort of) offered to help, maybe they can use some of that nuke-absorbing kitty litter? Or maybe it's time to try something new, like crazy putty?
    The Mainichi yarn is by Takao Yamada, Expert Senior Writer. He says ''Eventually, we’ll be able to grasp what’s happening, but for now, no.''
    IMHO, what's happening is that everything at Fukushima is going to end up in the ocean, in the atmosphere, in the soil. All over the globe. Part of the global environment. Baby and cradle and all. Governments know this. Their game plan: tell people radiation is harmless. The duct tape-kitty litter-crazy putty plan.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    I wonder what a corium wormhole looks like…

    Earths Moon
    Ocean Tides
    Corium Wash

    Mountain Snow
    Gravitys Tare
    Corium Wash

    Coria Released
    Mother Nature
    Sharing Pain


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  • GQR2

    great words jebus,good tempo? i dunno i like it though. We got some great poets around here.

    Hope the documentary sees the light of day. This is a story to follow. They will attempt to censor it no doubt. Naomi Toyoda is a very cool guy for a long time. Good on him!
    From the Mainachi News link -
    "That journalist was Naomi Toyoda, 57, who got his start as a freelance reporter back in 1982. A cram school teacher until then, he was spurred to act after seeing reports of Israel's invasion of Lebanon on television. He would spend 20 years reporting on Palestine, and 10 years covering Iraq's depleted uranium rounds."


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  • sistahawk

    ..some days ago i find a earthquake map…what was shocking about it is when you match a map that show the locations of nuklear powerplants that go bäng when mother earth has a burp …so many possibilitis in the entire world that it is just a matter of time..sure the planet is very happy when we're all gone…complete madness


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  • It's so amazing that only now is the tiniest trickle of anything resembling the truth making their news. I've got to get some of this latest on facebook….seems attention getting enough to break through to some more friends there.


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      I love your art , we must be twins with the fairy frog houses , I make very little doors out of clay or what ever and place them in trees among other little magical artsy stuff that if one is looking they smile . Anyhow I feel that we were being groomed with the way info comes out , it's not so shocking for the sheeple and let's face it it's all about the bottom line and money , people are waking up , people are starting to talk . We know the problem and we know we do not have much in the way of solutions , how can we incorporate hope ? Building our immune systems should be on the top with protection from those elements that are deadly …keep talking keep making the connections for those to see , try to keep gloom and doom at bay if that's possible , and start having summits with those in our communities that are aware and preparing . We must do something face to face boots on the ground and soon .
      I was thinking of a blog that has individual areas that we can connect and meet . Any ideas out there ? We can bitch and moan all day every day about the lack of awareness but where does that leave us at the end of the day , let's empower each other and take this to the next step . Let's also consider what would happen if this site went down or the internet , time is of the essence let's get off our asses and away from our gadgets so we can remember how life is done .
      Sorry for prattling on ..


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      • Oh you're not prattling at all CS..and thanks. :)

        I worry too about losing this great mass of precious info you have all sleuthed out before I even knew about enews or some of the links provided with each thread. I've now been posting in a private thread (shocking the crap out of some of my dear friends there) and on flakeybook as well, whenever I can load it. (I'm a dial-upper….so can't do the vids or large pics) but little by little people are seeing it, believing it. We nut case amateur reporters and activists have done much, each in our own ways. We'll be making use of all we know together to help people upgrade their nutrition/immune systems and stay sane. I used to teach *cosmic doo-dah* classes…half artwork shows to attract people….then included whatever I was learning about seeing the future coming at us….my motto was to be able to find comfort in chaos and maintain a graceful rhythm…stay tuned, stay grounded…follow your gut.


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        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          I'm known as the Fukushima lady in Harvard square …people are aware but it's uncomfortable to fathom for many , that is a dilemma for me on my talking points , I overcompensate by addressing fears and helplessness at times and sure could use some more flyer links that are succinct and can be read on a subway ride ..so much to share and so little airtime as I'm at a subway entrance . I've had a few very generous folks taking my paperwork and making copies but I'm not happy with what I have as far as flyers goes , they are old . Can anyone here help me in pointing out some of the better ones to make my efforts more worthwhile ?


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          • Sickputer

            Fukushima Lady: My best advice is forget flyers… Just a quick mention of Fukushima can plant a seed:

            SP at Walmart produce bins May 2014 looking at apples (speaking to produce worker):

            "Got any other other varieties of Chile apples?

            Man: "Just those Honey Crisp". Plenty of west coast apples still available.

            SP in low voice; "I don't buy any fruit from the west coast".

            SP (continues in even lower voice to man): "Because of f##king Fukushima radiation. It's killing us."

            (Man nods in appreciation for the advice).

            Plant a seed of advice, walk away and you grow a tree of knowledge.

            I also like this graphic and think I will add Enenews.com on the bottom and have it made into a T-shirt:

            http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/sickputer/media/deadbirdsleeping.jpg.html

            Credit to Enenews contributor Jhewes76. Haven't seen any postings since December 2012.

            I hope he/she is still alive.

            BTW: Where is MARKWW! ;-) . Haven't seen you in a while… Hope you are alive and kicking.

            Also the world wonders…where is my German "cousin" BreadAndButter? No postings in over 8 months. :-( Miss your intellectual comments.


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            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              Sick thank you can that be used for silkscreening ?
              I'm a life long activist pretty much , it picked me .
              With that said I make it my mission to share this with all I can not chance encounters , I'm not trying to be sarcastic to you ok .
              But we have over 65 thousand people go thru this area per 8 hour day .
              And I'm also doing work with homeless kids so I'm doing double duty too .
              So that's my gig
              It's an amazing cosmopolitan area with tourists , students all one could want in a advertising perspective .


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          • vital1 vital1

            Here are links to flyers and other resources, you can use to educate people on how serious the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster is clamshellernh.

            Just commenting in these forums keeps this information in a closed loop.

            Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it, Twitter it, or email it. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put it into letter boxes when you go for a walk.

            The more people we educate the sooner change will happen.

            http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf

            Or use these resources Chemfood has provided. All you need is a printer, scissors, some thumb tacks and … viola! We all are info dispersers as well! Put them on notice boards everywhere in the community. Get your local church or community organization to help.

            http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-13#comment-478924


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            • clamshellernh clamshellernh

              Thanks vital I knew this info was here and being posted at regular intervals but I have had my boots on the ground more that the weather is good , also a boston group is being discussed but I would like a speaker and or a movie to get it off the ground for an affinity group I have the folks ready and waiting I am just a perfectionist with gatherings and have soo much I'm doing right now I'm also doing guerrilla gardening and teaching urban gardening . Busy time of year as I have to think about my food supply more and more . We do have a vigil every Thursday morning at the Japanese consulate /federal reserve for an hour . I want to see some actions , just rounding up the troops ….thank you again


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    "…water pours into the reactor buildings and touches the atomic fuel inside…"

    But suppose something different has been happening for the past 3 years?
    Suppose that there is corium OUTSIDE of the reactor buildings?
    Corium at the end of corium lava tubes?
    Corium in the mudrock under the plants?
    Corium bathed by continuously flowing groundwater?

    Wouldn't this fact, all by itself, fully explain the reality that "Radiation has spiked at all-time highs"?

    Where is the damn corium, eh, TEPCO? ;)


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  • davidh7426 davidh7426

    I like Google-earth, and I especially like using the Street-view part.

    I use it to drive around the virtual streets, to plan routes, find where all the bottlenecks are, bridges that may collapse, towns and villages to avoid etc – Basically plan escape routes for when it all goes MORE pear-shaped.

    —–

    Just for laughs I thought I'd have a drive around Fukushima…

    It's an image that'll stick with me for quite a while.

    Normally, you can see life-signs everywhere you look with street-view, but not Fukushima, the only thing that lives there are plants, and the silence, you can't hear it with street-view, but I'm willing to bet that the silence would feel almost alive.

    There's NO animals, NO birds, NO people.

    The roads are collapsing, and becoming overgrown, some of the buildings are starting to show signs of collapsing too.

    The only vehicle I saw was abandoned at the side of the road with flat tyres.

    Pretty soon, the only way in and out of that area will be by military or four-wheel drive vehicles, or by air, or on foot.

    If you feel like driving round Fukushima, do it soon, because I really don't think that the camera cars will be going back there.


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  • weeman

    Sorry to tell you all, but nothing can be done, it is beyound human conception, you dig or understand, be brave, we deserve it, it is our own making, be well?


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  • Whatever and however the unfolding of what we all *do know and understand*, quite well, I might add….I know I can look my grand kids in the eye and they will agree….I give them all the options and help within my power… to live day to day within it.

    That's very important.


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  • 52Rockwell

    For gasser and me. We Need a seperate Music thread.The troops need music.http://youtu.be/izQB2-Kmiic


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  • Occupant Occupant

    And TPTB worry about cattle farts


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  • Play The Five Tones

    I've talked to people about Fukushima and asked them if they know what's going on or if they've even heard about the problem (inadequate word) regarding this disaster. Ninety-nine percent haven't heard about it or, as it appears, don't even care to hear about it. I have posted articles on social websites and no-one says anything. They'll comment like crazy about trivialities though.


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    • Many are afraid of what others may say or think so they avoid or ignore the issue.

      There's little danger of what others think when commenting on trivia.

      They do not want to be seen as politically incorrect. That could be embarrassing.

      Telling people that they must be 'politically correct' is a way of controlling people. ;)


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      • GQR2

        The social pressure,it's subtle and effective that is the first step,than there is the accepted fodder of trivia as a substitute and people begin to self censor to the PTB delight. Mission Accomplished. This happens in the non virtual world as well,more than a few have silenced themselves in order to save various relations and just to get along. The denial out there is intense.

        People control themselves and are repressed. We might stop sharing our ideas and assessments about issues. It vecomes too much trouble and friction besides what did Beyonce and who-se-podge do last night?


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Play don't give up just plant the seed , the rest will come to them in time . I've had many warm up this way and now are talking asking more . Thank you all for being here


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      • weegokiburi weegokiburi

        Agree.
        Sledge hammer tactics don't work.
        Usually has the effect of putting on the defensive and becoming more entrenched.
        Softly in from the blind side.
        Lay your eggs and let them hatch.
        Gokiburi way.


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  • Fukushima :(

    "…a problem so large it’s impossible to see all its dimensions."
    - Mainichi Daily News

    IMO – An understatement!


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  • jackassrig

    There's a good article on zerohedge.com about the ice wall and spike in the rad readings. Apparenty TEPCO will go down 30 feet. I don't think that will get TEPCO below the reactors. It will take 45 megawatts to operate. 30 feet what will that buy?


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      March 12th, 2009, 01:49 AM
      In short, beta-flare is purple glow caused by radiation above a nuclear power plant. It can't be seen with naked eye because of bright industrial lights those facilities have (after there was several eye witnesses in the 70's so this freaky sight had to be covered up) but even modest digital camera is able to bring it forth in right conditions. Here are some pictures:…

      Beta-flare derives from extensive radiation emissions causing ionization. When atoms neutralise, they radiate UV which excites the oxygen and nitrogen atoms and molecules to send their respective wavelength of visible light. O2 red, N2 blue. Works like northern lights or fluorescent bulb.

      One method for radiation to escape the power plant is free neutrons. They decay in 15 min unless captured by the nucleus of an atom (forming unstable isotopes and further radioactivity). As reactor produces 2-3 neutrons per fission 1-2
      of them have to get out! And out from the whole building so they won't decay inside, ionize air there and destroy workers lungs.

      The way for thermal neutrons to get out is the ventilation pipe (edit: with the fierce air flow). And there we can track down the betaflare also.
      http://www.thescienceforum.com/physics/13472-beta-flare.html

      Beta-flare phenomenon with Pink Panther Theme
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRF68aPuqGQ


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  • 52Rockwell

    Fight Fight fight the powers that be. Younger folk you gotta fight for your right to Partie.


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  • 52Rockwell

    Thats a Texican Right on Brother . No Comprndo the texicano?
    davidh7426


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  • 52Rockwell

    Its just saying you are hard corps. hit the nail on the head so to speak.


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  • jamesofthecommons

    Hopefully now, that at least some of the lies of our US nuclear regulatory agency have been exposed,those persons whom have up untill this point accepted the lies of about how harmless the fallout from Fukishima is,will at least consider taking measures to not only protect themselves from that fallout but to also stand with us against nuclear proliferation.
    Just maybe, this revelation will serve as a turning point in the pro nuke propaganda war against the truth?


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  • jamesofthecommons

    Ontological,here where I live in southern Appalachia,today marked the third day in a row, in which intermitant rain has fallen despite the presence of cool dry air at the surface,and not a great deal of moisture aloft.Gulf moisture has been particularly sparce at any atmospheric height,but yet gusty showers and even thunderstorms have occoured thanks to unusualy cold air aloft,leading to enough instability to spark those showers and storms.After reading your comment about how certain radioactive isotopes can cause the upper atmosphere to become unusualy cold I cant help but to wonder if our weather as of late is perhaps a indirect result of existing fukishima fallout in the atmosphere.I also am wondering what may happen weather wise once tropical moisture and instability returns to the southern US and perhaps is coupled on occasion with abnormaly frigid air aloft.


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    • SadieDog

      "The government will purchase the land where the interim facilities are to be built and compensate the property owners for moving expenses. It will also cover the costs of relocating family graves if property owners wish to move them."


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  • jamesofthecommons

    Sadly people have the darndest way of choosing what it is they want to believe.I find myself very often wanting to believe that the Fukishima situation is but a realitive nusance.The truth of the matter is in fact sureally awfull,so awfull in fact, that if the mass of humanity were aware, as well as accepting of that truth,the status quo, so to speak, would crumble at the feet of the elite who derive their power from the maintanance of that quo within a matter of days.


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  • lucius.cornelius

    Probably would have helped if they hadn't spent the last 3 years lying through their teeth at every opportunity.
    This is at least the second time in less than 100 years that Japan has faced almost total destruction so that a handful of fools can pretend that "everything's OK" and thus not lose face.
    If the US hadn't utterly squandered their reputation and authority trashing weak nations so their Corporate buddies could make even more profit, the words "regime change" wouldn't be so dirty and there could be realistic talk of invading Japan, enforcing regime change on them and putting a Government in place that's willing to be both honest and hardworking in tackling this abomination.

    Instead we must endure austerity, tax evasion and a massive hard on for poking Russia with a stick (about which the West is, surprise surprise, lying through its teeth – again) whilst everyone pretends that nothing happened in Japan worth bothering with because, as we know, there's no money in cleaning up such a mess because it can't be done on the cheap and so there's no profit to be gouged, so no one's interested. If the truth were to get out, people would demand proper action, proper accountability and a proper clean up and that would require resignations, trials, lots of red faces and several thousand dead workers.
    Meanwhile, back in the real world, there's lots of areas in Ukraine ripe for fracking. It's gonna be a dollarfest for the right people. Woot!


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      lucius cornelius, if the truth were known many would cry, "Hang 'em high."

      I'm tired of watching the criminal gangster thug corpocracy with all it slimy tentancles strangling the world.

      If it happened, I wouldn't try to stop them. But I'm old, and can't take a physical walk on part in this war anymore.

      But at least I'm not playing a lead role in a cage. (As the old Pink Floyd song, "Wish You Were Here," goes.)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETNrGpxBTQA


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  • Uranium_Mountain Uranium_Mountain

    Thousands of Dead Fish Found in Marina Del Rey, "California Fish and Game was called to the scene…"

    Video:
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/thousands-dead-fish-found-marina-del-rey-n108741


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  • Hot and Bothered Hot and Bothered

    Wow, What a wild weekend!
    I hope everyone survived!

    Time to wild it up a bit apparently ;P


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  • Hot and Bothered Hot and Bothered

    Get your wild out


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  • Hot and Bothered Hot and Bothered

    A toast to us not being toast!
    Got my grim going on and I sure hope I survive the bullshit of humanity!

    word.


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  • Hot and Bothered Hot and Bothered

    Super Stress Champion!
    Last man standing mondays :(

    Bummer gig,


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    New Godzilla Not Filmed In Japan – Business Insider
    http://www.businessinsider.com/r-post-fukushima-japans-favorite-monster-may-never-go-home-again-2014-14

    TOKYO (Reuters) – He's dark and lumbering, crashing through cities and destroying them with swipes of his massive tail and blasts of radioactive breath. Godzilla is back on the rampage, roaring and stomping, for the first time in ten years.
    But the much-anticipated return of Japan's most famous and beloved monster, 60 years and 28 movies after he first rose from the depths following a hydrogen bomb test, has been filmed not in the land of his birth but in the United States – and analysts say there is a chance he may never go back to his homeland.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-post-fukushima-japans-favorite-monster-may-never-go-home-again-2014-14#ixzz329znT1OW

    Blockbuster they are saying
    Has anyone seen it yet
    I'm afraid too as far as subliminal messages
    But will wait to hear back from those that went that are aware


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    • jec jec

      Reading the reports..they "pick" the best to show, like Gross Beta..but not Cesium..but some have Cesium but not Gross Beta..or not Tritium..and the tritium levels are terribly high in some areas, but not mentioned in others. I can only think its so high they are afraid to post the information. Why not provide all the test result..like Stromium-90. Thats going to be the killer for us all.


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  • Nick

    The problems began the moment the earth tore the site apart.

    Now we are being primed for tank dumping into the sea, since so much radiated water has already poisoned the once majestic and beautiful Pacific Ocean.

    Remember, we are supposed to blame the tsunami for FD-NPP's woes. But the tsunami simply washed over a failed complex, plumbing was wrecked and the very earth itself had heaved, cracking reactor vessels, etc.

    Any chance humans will face up to the fact that we dire straights?

    Nah. Just continue the obfuscation!


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  • SadieDog

    NHK – Tepco says it will begin to monitor Fukushima work more closely.
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20140519_31.html


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    • jec jec

      What happened to the sick worker evacuated from the site last week? Any word? Its going to be hard for TEPCO to whip dying people..or I guess not as they seem already to be pretty good at that..

      So they "find' a slacker..what will they do put them in jail..?? The workers probably have a death sentence due to radiatioin already. Gads.


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  • Sol Man

    The most sacred of all, but genomes take the hits; it's very bad.


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  • The next phase coming up:

    Battles over dry casking now, or WAIT 60 years to avoid those costs. Decomm costs WAY more than the $130M that the NRC requires plants to set aside. However, the companies still control those "set aside" accounts, meaning they can deplete them whenever they choose.

    Actual Decomm costs are estimated to be $500M to $1000M, and in reality, probably a lot more. So lets say $150B to decomm the plants in USA.

    So the game plan is for companies to spin off their nuclear assets to one entity, milk each plant for all its worth, delay the decomm, raid the decomm fund, and then declare bankuptcy.

    Nothing else would make strategic sense for them. So this playbook is obvious, and with active and smart government involvment there will be no other way but for the taxpayer to PAY FOR ALL THE COSTS.

    In Germany, they are trying to prevent this. Sheesh, at least they are talking about it.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/18/germany-energy-nuclear-idUSL6N0O40JE20140518


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  • lucius.cornelius

    Would be interested to hear what people's thoughts on this site are regarding the apparent lack of earthquake damage in any of the film/photos of the Japanese coastline as the wave came in.


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  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    I was here when it happened.
    Lots of structural damage.
    The focus of damage quickly switched to the tsunami and aftermath.
    Have you been to Tohoku?
    Do you realy know where it is?


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  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Retract my intolerant manner.
    Sorry.
    But don't retract question


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    • lucius.cornelius

      That's why I framed it as a question and not as a statement.

      There are websites dedicated to the proposition that there was no earthquake damage (with pictures and videos) and therefore that the strength of the earthquake was exaggerated, which in turn implies the need for a cover up. These sites allege that Israeli workers put bombs disguised as cameras in each reactor and all conveniently left Japan in the days before the disaster and that a power station worker claimed that he entered the plant just before the wave hit and that the reactors were already overheating because "the back up power supplys were the wrong voltage and couldn't cope with the demand placed on them."

      I needed to know what other people thought and seeing as how most people in the mainstream media are deceived, whether willfully or not, there's little point in asking there. Most people have forgotten that Fukushima happened and the mainstream media has taken some pains to ensure that this remains the case.

      To quote Thomas Aquinas
      He who is not angry when there is just cause for anger is immoral. Why? Because anger looks to the good of justice. And if you can live amid injustice without anger, you are immoral as well as unjust.

      Anger is heavy work, misdirected anger is a waste of time. Hence the question.


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      • weegokiburi weegokiburi

        Re Thomas Aquinas.
        There is little of the true philosophic spirit in Aquinas. He does not, like the Platonic Socrates, set out to follow wherever the argument may lead. He is not engaged in an inquiry, the result of which it is impossible to know in advance. Before he begins to philosophize, he already knows the truth; it is declared in the Catholic faith. If he can find apparently rational arguments for some parts of the faith, so much the better; if he cannot, he need only fall back on revelation. The finding of arguments for a conclusion given in advance is not philosophy, but special pleading. I cannot, therefore, feel that he deserves to be put on a level with the best philosophers either of Greece or of modern times…..Bertrand Russell


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  • Nick

    l.c.
    3/11/11 was an earth rendering event. Do not for one minute think that it was only the tsunami that caused "all" of the damage.
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8BE90hp0N64/TYCA8l1Vm1I/AAAAAAAAA7A/shsPtvzQuGg/s1600/japan-earthquake-2011-3-11-9-26-31.jpg

    Now imagine what happened at FD_NPP and you will shiver.


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  • Crickets Crickets

    One of very few stories I have found in the SF Chronicles website, having to do with Fukushima, this one having to do with nosebleeds.

    http://www.sfgate.com/business/energy/article/Japan-debates-radiation-as-manga-shows-nosebleed-5488343.php


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  • Nick

    Methinks some strange times lie ahead.

    Nations will get antsy and small skirmishes will escalate.

    The atmosphere will increase in weirdness.

    The oceans will suffocate.

    Madness will reign.

    That's what happens when you build one of the world's largest nuclear power plants by the sea and it goes FUBAR.

    Radiation is forever. It is TATAL.

    Love for today. Cherish the past. Weep for our future that is gone forever.


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