Japan Official: Fuel from Fukushima reactors is “melting down daily” — AP: No way of confirming melted fuel is at bottom of containment vessels — Tepco Adviser: “Schedule for decommissioning the plant is pure supposition” — The Economist: This is ‘Mission Impossible’ (VIDEO)

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Associated Press, Feb 6, 2015 (emphasis added): A snake-like robot designed to examine the inside of one of three melted reactors at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant is ready to begin its expedition… Using information gathered by the robot [TEPCO] plans to repair the damaged chambers enough so they can be filled with water… It is expected to enter the Unit 1 reactor as early as April… Expectations for the robot probe are high after earlier efforts at assessment produced limited success… After its trip, technicians plan to store the robot in a shielded box because of its extremely high radioactivity, and it will not be reused… Computer simulations indicate that all of the fuel rods in the Unit 1 reactor probably melted and fell to the bottom of the containment chamber, but until now there has been no way of confirming that… Because of the reactor damage, large volumes of cooling water continue to leak from them, causing contamination and hampering the plant’s cleanup process.

Wall St. Journal, Feb 6, 2015: For the first time since the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in March 2011, engineers working for [TEPCO] could soon get their first view of nuclear fuel and debris around the melted-down reactors. It is widely believed that during the meltdowns of reactors No. 1-3… the overheated nuclear fuel also flowed out into the reactor vessels… Extracting the nuclear fuel and debris is the most important task involved in decommissioning… But nobody knows what state these deadly materials are in–even the radiation around the buildings storing the reactors is far too high for people to withstand… Now it is ready to examine the fuel and debris, perhaps as soon as April, with the help of a new robot…

The Economist, Feb 7, 2015: Mission impossible; An industrial clean-up without precedent – The stricken Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant is the world’s most complex and costly industrial clean-up… TEPCO’s early guess was that decommissioning would take 30-40 years. That is certainly optimistic. Engineers are grappling with problems with little precedent… Last October the utility pushed back the start of this removal work by five years, to 2025. Dale Klein, [Tepco adviser and former NRC chairman] says that the schedule for decommissioning the plant is pure supposition until engineers figure out how to remove all the fuel.

Taro Yamamoto, member of the Diet of Japan — House of Councillors representing Tokyo, published Feb 5, 2015: “In Fukushima, each reactor has about 90 tons [90,000 kg or ~200,000 lbs] of uranium. These are melting down daily.”

Watch Yamamoto’s interview here

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  1. Japan Times: “Deadly” radiation levels detected outside Fukushima containment vessel — “Details behind situation are unknown” — Officials unable to grasp location of melted nuclear fuel — “Impossible” to plan for decommissioning October 30, 2015
  2. AFP: Fears that molten fuel went into ground after melting through containment vessels at Fukushima — They still can’t find three reactor cores (AUDIO) January 23, 2014
  3. Tepco Adviser: 925 quadrillion Bq of contaminated water from trying to cool melted Fukushima cores in first few months after 3/11 — TV: “Tepco has no idea where the fuel is” (VIDEO) November 23, 2013
  4. NHK: Officials admit it may be impossible to stop leaking at Fukushima reactors — Will be investigating ‘bottom of containment vessels’ for holes — Gov’t asking engineers from outside Japan for help with melted fuel (VIDEOS) April 30, 2014
  5. Reuters: Fukushima fuel melted through containment vessels and is “spewing radiation” — Nuke Expert: Fuel has “scattered all over the place” — Gov’t: Fuel may have burned out into environment — Tepco Official: Fuel could have flowed out “like lava in a volcano” (VIDEOS) March 15, 2016

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  • Homo Insapiens Homo Insapiens

    Pale blue dot ruined.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Certainly ruined…

  • Wright South West Wright South West

    Craigslist: Electronics: Used one of a kind robot for sale. Used one time so like new condition. Comes with its own carrying case. Willing to ship oversea if you pay shipping.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    “melting down daily”= continuous meltdown.

    (So soon ..to dress my hair with flowers)

  • or-well

    404 – Page Not Found

    for Associated Press and Wall St. Journal links above.

    Anyone else?

  • Sickputer

    Quote from article: "After its trip, technicians plan to store the robot in a shielded box because of its extremely high radioactivity, and it will not be reused…"

    SP: What? No plans to incinerate it in Tokyo?

    And if the best they can do is make short expensive one-use camera "snakes" then we know repairing cracks or grabbing 90 tons of molten uranium is beyond impossible. There are three Doomsday Machines at Fukushima and nobody in government is brave enough to spill the bad news.

    No such restraints for me…

    See that dragon wind blowing from Japan? It's not divine:

    http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif

  • mission impossible mission impossible

    The interview of Taro Yamamoto offers good insight into why nuclear energy has a stronghold in Japan:

    >> He says it’s not just “energy companies like Mitsubishi, Toshiba, Hitachi, but also construction companies like Kashima plus majors banks in Japan like Mizuho and others…like major life insurance company like Nihon Seimei, Meiji Yasuda Seimei. A tremendous number of major industries are related to nuclear power and some of them are holding stocks.”

    >> It’s “the large corporations and major capitalists who control the government…Therefore, in Japan the government won’t change the policies to stop nuclear power. Because there are many industries which can get money from the people’s tax and energy bills, without their own expenses…"

    >> "Japan is more like a colony of the US… So in reality, we continue to do what US wants. For example, the military bases in Okinawa, and nuclear power issues.”

    >> "Many of the Japanese politicians are voted in by system votes or large corporations or getting financial support from them. There are a total of 722 members in the both Houses and the majority of them are in this situation…most of them don’t do what their voters really want.”

    "Regarding the nuclear power policies, there are money making situation behind."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bySXUAXt5hE#t=1098

  • I was afraid to do this analysis for quite some time, and then I found a resource on aerosolization and fallout from atmosphere. Then with some of my best thinking, done in the shower, with notepad always on bath counter….I found the calculation would be very straight forward.

    The question is….did Fuku release enough plutonium to pretty much kill all of us, are we already dead?

    THE ANSWER IS NO! Yeehaw!

    I took Uranium aerosolized (from EPA data) said 3% was plutonium. Researched drop out from Atmosphere, and using human breathing rate, calculated amount of Pu we are likely to inhale….

    GREAT NEWS…less than 1 micrograms over 30 years!!!!!

    Data here, get ready to fight peoples~! We ain't dead yet!!!!!

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/02/how-long-does-plutonium-stay-in.html

    • We Not They Finally

      The EPA told the truth about the MOX fuel and gave you honest data about its release? Maybe a little too soon to celebrate. See Paola Scampa's article on this in agreenroad. IMHO.

      • @We,

        Oh don't worry, this can kill us in other ways, lol

        No, this is based upon 195 tons of uranium, and assuming that 3% of it is Plutonium. This is a rational assumption based upon a mix of things that blew up, reactor with uranium, reactor with MOX, spent fuel based originally on uranium, spent fuel based originally on MOX.

        Review how much total spent fuel and reactor fuel was on site. Certainly 195 tons is a high percentage of the overall fuel inventory, so it CANNOT be double that amount. So yes, this is very rational.

        It is funny that the overall reaction to this VERY IMPORTANT information if they people don't want to believe that we havent been poisoned to deathly levels by plutonium in air.

        The reality is that we have not. There is for sure many people who took in a Pu fuel flea or just a much higher dose than average population, and many more will get additional dose from fallout to land and pickup by ag crops, etc.

    • ISPC

      Yes. stock. TY. Truly groundbreaking work. Kudos. A reason for hope is well received here. Joust On. Peace

      • Ya ISPC, thanks….I am amazed I got so few comments, it was a really inspiring moment to run those calculations and realize that we haven't been killed directly.

        I did the red pill calculation, and most of us shall live without a DIRECT Fuku shot.

        • We Not They Finally

          Whatever travels here, even thousands of miles, is still "direct," is it not? In many cases, does it not just take rain-outs? (Stop me if I'm wrong.)

          • @We, rainouts are probably a good thing when it comes to Pu inhalation, only dangerous when resuspended.

            Direct means for the Pu that Fuku put into air, if it is spread out in the original mass over the pacific, and all place got that original concentration…that over thrity years, you would receive less than 1 microgram.

            350 micrograms is what "for sure pretty much kills a beagle"

            got it now?

            • We Not They Finally

              Yet since apparently one-millionth of an inhaled gram can KILL and you say that there are close to six TONS (approx. 3% of 195 tons,) plus Arnie Gundersen said that in the early weeks alone, people in Seattle (just as a sample) were inhaling 8-10 "hot particles" a day, fail to be convinced.

              Don't want it to be so, just fail to be convinced of the negative.

              • I am a firm believer in the data, probability and statistics. Don't worry, plenty of other craps from Fuku that can still impact you.

                You got a link to the Arnie….i would like to review that.

              • Sickputer

                Yeah, but look at the positives (of inhaling plutonium into human lungs). /sarc-on

                It might take 30-50 years for the speck to blow up enough lung DNA to create a fatal tumor.

                Sounds pretty harmless if you're already 30-50. You will survive to 60-100.

                Sounds good…unless you're a child when you get the irremovable poison. 🙁

                • I think at 1 microgram, the cancer incidence is going to be pretty low, at 350 microgram the cancer incidence is 100%

                  Using "high" numbers, most people won't accumulate 1 microgram in 30 years, and some does actually leave the body, although a lot stays forever.

                  But yeah, the kids are poisoned on our watch, no doubt. so I shall joust.

                  def of troll jousting, coined by me, lol

                  Troll Jousting is the act of retorting comments on blogs that have been placed by trolls, or paid commentators who place comments to support a particular vested interest. The Troll Jouster places comments that show the falseness of the Troll
                  Wow nice Troll Jousting dude, you really bitch slapped that Troll.

                  Yeah, thanks eh brah! I couldn't believe that Pro Nuke Troll was actually saying that radiation can be beneficial to your health. I had to slap 'em back in case some innocent bystander saw that Troll comment and believed it.

                  Well, good work dude, keep up the Troll jousting on that blog, and remember, there are NO innocent bystanders.

                  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Troll+Jousting

        • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          Yeah that's great news stock , Thanks for that.

        • Are you assuming everyone got an equal dose?

          Are you assuming that all plumes got diluted equally across the world?

          What about 'hot' rain outs?

          Hot plumes?

          Hot particles?

          Not saying you are incorrect, but can you guarantee what you say is the absolute truth, with absolutely no doubt at all?

          • Of course no guarantees, and for sure some areas got dosed higher.

            My assumption is that the initial plume was evenly distributed over the Pacific, and this moved evenly distributed over any area that you wish to estimate.

            For most people, the results will be less, because of initial fallout and "dilution", wow can't believe I used that word.

            Some areas or individuals could be much higher, and someone lodging a fuel flea in their lungs or brain could be tragic.

            Although 1 microgram could kill a person, it is unlikely to kill a person. For Beagles, 350 micrograms of retained lung burden was enough to pretty much for sure kill all of them.

            • Remember when Arnie Gunderson was talking about people inhaling hot particles in the US and Japan?

              He was quoting numbers such as 10 hot particles per day inhaled, or 2 – 5 in the US?

              Does memory serve correctly?

              Does anyone have a link to his statement or video about this?

        • Wright South West Wright South West

          Stock..thanks for running the numbers on this. I appreciate you effort!

          • Ya, we ain't dead yet, not from stinking Fuku Pu, joust on

            • Sam Sam

              I am a bit late to this statistical probability of injury from
              Fuku particle discussion. Statistics can be manipulated
              any which way to prove or disprove or project trends etc.
              What is bothering in reading these statistical re-assurances
              is that it normalizes the ongoing dangers from radiation.
              We are not dead yet from it directly but who really knows
              WTF it is already doing to our bodies in the meantime.
              Wait till we have nuclear reactors one third the size of
              NPP proliferating in small scale applications with no safe
              disposal.Wait till they start throwing out statistics on how
              safe this new nuclear will be. "No body aint dead directly
              from Nuclear" What about the US Navy Sailors on US Reagen?
              I tend to want to puke when I read statistics downplaying Nuclear.
              Where are you really coming from Stock with these posts?.
              I know you mean well here in your re-assurances to give all
              of us breathing space from panic but it may be counter productive.

  • Huh? PBS really slays me with their poor writing.–>"after earlier efforts and errors produced little success and caused a series of accidents" (Go here if you want to read their reference/source article http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/04/world/asia/errors-cast-doubt-on-japans-cleanup-of-nuclear-accident-site.html )

    Again PBS: "specialists will store the snake robot permanently in a shielded box due to the high levels of radioactivity it will have been exposed to. TEPCO must use a different robot for each reactor because neither machines are alike."

    Er, uh, ok. Be sure to use different workers and equipment too and store them in shielded boxes as they accumulate.

    Sorry, I'm in a really sarcastic fed-up mood this morning. I actually wish them and the robot snake luck. 🙂

  • dunkilo

    5 bucks says the "snake"dies after 10 mins!
    It will take all other living things a little while longer…

  • dunkilo

    I got ya snake right here!!hahahah

  • dosdos dosdos

    Unit #3 no longer contains 90 tons.

  • antipodes

    Mission Impossible Very funny back up Robot.

  • razzz razzz

    'Taro Yamamoto, member of the Diet of Japan — House of Councillors representing Tokyo, published Feb 5, 2015'

    Even capitalism would discard the nuclear industry as a money losing proposition. One can blame industry, corporations and big business all they want but they exist as government extensions.

    It is socialism that allows the nuclear industry to survive on the backs of taxpayers.

    There is a business cycle showing up as boom and busts which is necessary to wash out companies that can't compete with newest innovations, evolving modern day technologies or fail in simple business sense.

    It is insurmountable debt that drives governments to hide their failures and redirects attention elsewhere. Usually from social agendas (promise free stuff that can't be paid for).

    Russia failing economically results in some kind of expansionism as a distraction. Rather spend on military operations than structural defects at home on the human level. Japan following in the same pattern. It is all due to debt whether it is overspending or some tragedy that sends a country back to the stone age.

    Socialism works until you run out of other people's money. Then you get a reset.

  • We Not They Finally

    Four years and counting with NO viable on-site assessment, or even the possibility of such; and now one lonely robot on a kamikaze mission will not only be providing answers, but solutions?

    How many things are wrong with this picture? I'd sooner trust being bailed out by "The Sorcerer's Apprentice."

    • name999 name999

      WNTF,yes, it is exactly that! The posts here today are good company.

      I think we are just trying to be here, with each other, make a joke, tell the truth, care about each other, share information. When Enenews is moving in the best direction that is what happens here.

      All of this is so difficult to process though. So painful to feel it and know it, isolated by the caustic indifference of a dehumanized science and a tuned out humanity.

      This is our planet…our body…our home. And now it is already changed beyond recognition from
      100 years ago. Rapidly that will continue and no one knows how to stop it. The Sorcerer's Apprentice is now in control.

  • Sol Man

    Let the fed keep its debt.

  • razzz razzz

    Interesting the Federal Reserve Board sold US bonds (named quantitative easing QE 1-3) to created enough money to back up banks' bad investment losses. Banks have plenty of money to loan at low interest rates, there are no takers. Consumers are not spending maybe still expecting the worst. Tax collections are at records highs but so is government spending.

    So they can print or make electronic money entries all they want but without consumer spending (called the velocity of money) there will be no improvement in the economy until consumer feel like spending.

    The Federal Reserve after paying its salaries and expenses sends all its profits to the US Treasury. Was independent when originally set up but morphed into a quasi-government bank during the war years when government forced the Federal Reserve to buy and sell war bonds.

    Now, even China got tired of paying the Federal Reserve a percentage to buy US bonds and now buy directly from the US Treasury.

    When it comes time to pay interest on US bonds, the US Treasury will print money to pay off that interest. With low bond rates hovering around 1% they are catching a break until interest rates begin to rise. Then the expense of going into debt will really begin to be a problem.

    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/07/debt-crisis-is-forgiveness-possible/

    • Angela_R

      razzz, from your comment "When it comes time to pay interest on US bonds, the US Treasury will print money to pay off that interest. With low bond rates hovering around 1% they are catching a break until interest rates begin to rise. Then the expense of going into debt will really begin to be a problem"

      Hadn't factored that one in. As I understand:
      private banks own the shares in the Federal Reserve. They are paid 6% annually on their shareholding. So I would think private shareholders are doing quite nicely in the current economic climate.
      All other ANNUAL profits are given to the US Treasury.

      But who gets the worth of the created money?
      Unless I am mistaken that money is circulated to the private banks. 40 billion US dollars per month was/is being used to buy up bundles of mortgages. Are they the property of the private banks? Surely, even out of personal concern, the members of Congress would require an answer.
      Not aware whether G. Edward Griffin covers that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93k

      The European system is an interesting case. There, the individual central banks, are the shareholders of the European Central Bank. However do private shareholders gain through the banks increase in monetary supply when money expansion is allowed? For instance the Italian Central Bank has private shareholders, Belgium has 50/50 shareholding, the German and Spanish Central banks are government owned and controlled.

    • How does the Fed Res. send all of its profits to the US Treasury, when it is a privately owned for profit corporation, and has a private corporate board, made up of the 1%?

      That would make it the only for profit corporation that makes no profit, ever.

      Any links to prove this assertion?

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        The Fed makes no profit, they assume debt, and collect collateral, in real property and future labor.
        They use inflation to moderate, to control competition.
        Why is there inflation? Who wins/loses. What good does it do?

        A debtor is destroyed by his own hand. We the people, 320 million, the government, are doing to ourselves. We want what we can't pay for. Eventually, it will end bad. Always has.

      • Angela_R

        "How does the Fed Res. send all of its profits to the US Treasury, when it is a privately owned for profit corporation, and has a private corporate board, made up of the 1%?"

        "The U.S. Government receives all of the system's annual profits, after a statutory dividend of 6% on member banks' capital investment is paid, and an account surplus is maintained. In 2010, the Federal Reserve made a profit of $82 billion and transferred $79 billion to the U.S. Treasury.[22]"

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
        as at 9th February, 2015
        You will possibly find other answers in the above link. However, unsure what you mean by "ánd has a private corporate board made up of the 1%"

        My question however is, who gets the returns on the money created by quantative easing in America, the Treasury or the Private Federal Reserve?

        For instance here it is written that "Britain's richest 5% gained most from quantitative easing – Bank of England"
        http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/aug/23/britains-richest-gained-quantative-easing-bank

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          It keeps a guaranteed 6% and what is 6% of the debt created and/or funny money printed, since 1913? Very large calculator needed for this enslavement program.

          A Jobs Program.. really is.. A Slaves Program! 🙂

          Money for ever is a very nice play!
          http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-12/paying-down-debt-now-almost-mathematically-impossible

          • Angela_R

            As I understand the Private Banks who own the shares in the Federal Reserve are given a return of 6% per annum on the money they have deposited in the Reserve.
            Re the funny money. When additional money is created it generally devalues the currency, effecting the monetary holdings of any money held by the general public.

            Though my question is, who gets the actual book value of the electronically created money and any returns earned from it, the Treasury or the Private Federal Reserve?

            Be interesting to know what has been the sum total of deposits by the Private Banks in the Federal Reserve, and the value that the Private Fed. would now be worth; a shareholders gain?

            Perhaps G. Edward Griffin may answer those questions here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93k

            • Angela_R

              correction, maybe more correctly phrased as "effecting the value of any monetary holdings held by the general public."

              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                Yes Angela, my simpleton mind sees that as inflation.
                They manipulate that to keep the 'GP' in check.

                They talk of 'negative interest', when in reality, we have been there for some time.

                Increase inflation, lower interest, and your dollar buys less the longer you keep it. The way they talk, they will soon loan $2 and only require $1 to be paid back. I haven't followed close lately, maybe we are already their.
                And the general public will bear all of the pain.
                As we have been.

                As far as the book cooking, I just assume it is a bigger mess than Fuku, they won't disclose it, or the gold reserves, nada.

                Just my simpleton thought process 🙂

                • Angela_R

                  "Just my simpleton thought process :)"
                  I have a simple mind too.

                  The monetary system, as I see it, doesn't make sense. That's why I keep thinking my understanding cannot be correct.

                  btw did some some figures for the gold reserves in 2013.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Good find, but out of band width and I am sure he is correct. 🙂

              Ask Wesley how he liked his time in jail for failing to file some tax forms.

              Enslavement is intrinsic to the monetary slavery we all now forcibly enjoy. 🙂

              Good book lied and stated something about Caesar, if I am not mistaken, and that was the guaranteed enslavement for everybody icing on the cake thousands of years ago.
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Pretty sure that for every dollar generated/printed/created by the Federal Reserve it is charged at a rate of 6%, which means every time we print a dollar bill of our own money they get 6%, which means the U,S, can not ever pay back it's now mounting debt.

              The 6% may/might be looked at as a fee for letting us use our own citizen's money.

              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                You just can't make that kind of stuff up.
                Takes a certain 'evil', does it not?

                A special kind of stupid allows this.
                The zoo is hungry, all the doors are open, and we see all are running around like miscreants.

                It is shitty to pass this on to our children and theirs, and theirs thereafter.

                That 'fee' that you talk about Obe, is exactly why the world wants a way 'out' of our money.

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  It certainly is a Catch 22. 🙁 Based on the zerohedge video, we would need to ramp up the GDP output by at a rate of 6%+ each year in order just to lower the coming yearly deficits now mounting/growing on the books.

                  Now, since we here all know that ramping up GDP means more production and output of more junk that is now destroying the ecosystems and planet we live on, the Catch 22 becomes clearer.

                  So the control Ponzi scheme was set up via an unlimited growth paradigm that we now know is killing us all. Nuclear power is supplying the energy needed to kill this planet along with several other dirty technologies fueling this ongoing materialistic growth. 🙁

                  Huge mistake! But then, when you feed off someone else's hard earned money via taxes taken then all things are possible.. 🙁
                  Keynesian economics (/ˈkeɪnziən/ KAYN-zee-ən; or Keynesianism) is the view that in the short run, especially during recessions, economic output is strongly influenced by aggregate demand (total spending in the economy).

                  • Angela_R

                    Obe, 6% charge?

                    Haven't seen that, however around a couple of years ago, read that the Fed. charged 6 cents for note printing. That's what started me enquiring who actually got the exchange value of the money. For instance a $100 bill, is worth more than 6 cents.

  • rogerthat

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-09/business-lobby-embraces-nuclear-debate/6079348

    Business groups embrace nuclear industry debate in South Australia
    Mon 9 Feb 2015

    The prospect of a nuclear industry in South Australia has been embraced by the state's peak business group as a multi-million-dollar industry.

    On Sunday, Premier Jay Weatherill announced a royal commission into the state's potential involvement in the enrichment, energy and storage phases in the life cycle of nuclear fuel.

    Business SA chief executive Nigel McBride said it would be good for the state and could result in reduced carbon emissions.

    "We're talking about a massive, potential nuclear recycling industry," he said.

    "We're talking about low energy costs and a huge rise in job opportunities through cheaper manufacturing, cheaper water."

    SA has one of the world's biggest uranium deposits at Roxby Downs in the state's north, and has been producing and selling uranium for more than 25 years…

    But the Conservation Council's chief executive Craig Wilkins described any use of nuclear energy in SA as "unwanted" and "unsafe".

    "It's old thinking, rather than new thinking and it's so frustrating to spend time, energy and resources investigating this when we are on the cusp of an energy revolution in renewable," he said…

  • rogerthat

    http://www.theobserver.ca/2015/02/08/decision-expected-this-year-on-deep-geological-repository
    Decision expected this year on deep geological repository

    By Paul Morden, Sarnia Observer
    February 8, 2015

    Sarnia Mayor Mike Bradley says he welcomes the recent move by Chicago to join Great Lakes communities opposing Ontario Power Generation's plan to bury nuclear waste at the Bruce nuclear station in Kincardine.

    Chicago city council passed a resolution in late January calling for a halt to the proposal to bury contaminated mop heads, paper towels, core reactor components, filters and other low and intermediate waste from nuclear plants at Bruce, Pickering and Darlington 680 metres underground in Kincardine next to the lake.

    Bradley said opposition to the plan among communities on the Great Lakes has been building slowly over the last two years.

    "This is a huge coup to have the largest city come forward and say, 'Yes, we do not support this direction,'" he said…

  • rogerthat

    http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20150209p2a00m0na010000c.html

    Gov't offers Fukushima Pref. authority to check safety of radioactive waste storage facilities
    Feb 9

    … As the construction plans for interim storage facilities have not been finalized as the government is facing difficulty in reaching agreement with local landowners, the Environment Ministry started construction work for different temporary storage sites on Feb. 3 to keep the radioactive soil and other waste for the time being. …

  • rogerthat

    http://www.kpbs.org/news/2015/feb/02/calls-state-get-involved-nuclear-waste-question/

    Southern California Edison’s Citizens Engagement Panel focused recently on how to get more political action on how to store radioactive spent nuclear fuel.

    Tons of the waste from the now-shuttered San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station will be stored on site in north San Diego County. Unless another, more permanent site is found, it will remain there, buried on the cliffs between Interstate 5 and the Pacific Ocean…

  • rogerthat

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2015/feb/06/dallas-company-wants-store-us-nuclear-waste-texas/

    Dallas company wants to store U.S. nuclear waste in Texas
    By Betsy Blaney, Associated Press
    Feb. 6, 2015

    LUBBOCK, Texas — A Dallas-based company that handles low-level radioactive waste is taking the first step toward making a West Texas facility the first interim storage site for high-level nuclear waste from around the country.

    Waste Control Specialists on Friday notified the Nuclear Regulatory Commission of the company's plan to seek a license to build a facility in rural Andrews County that would store spent fuel rods from power plants for as long as 100 years. The location is about 350 miles west of Dallas and 120 miles south of Lubbock, along Texas' border with New Mexico…

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      What happens after 100 years? They're radioactive for a billion years. Simple questions, no answers.

    • We Not They Finally

      Yeah, WIPP "inspired" these morons. Andrews in West Texas was already made the back-up facility for the WIPP disaster, removing stores of waste from NM into Texas.

      To TIS: There is (obviously) no "100 years" hence. WIPP was royally screwed up in just 15 years — or maybe a lot sooner, but finally something happened that had to surface publicly. The only "half-lives" these idiots care about is their own, and the money that they cannot transport with them when they and those around them die.

  • razzz razzz

    With Clinton repealing Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, banks would not be banks anymore but investment houses gambling with depositors money. Real estate Ponzi scheme derivatives were a big loser spawning 'to big to fail' and resulted in a taxpayer bailout with a consolidation as a result ending in a few big banks which makes it hard to distinguish between a politician and a banker as they are almost interchangeable. Farming politicians from the banking industry and vice versa.

    The Federal Reserve was meant to stabilize monetary policy at the local level with its 12 member branches. Each bank could infuse money to prevent bank runs avoiding a collapse. This among supplying everyday fundings. It was a nice idea.

    Enter the Dodd–Frank Act to make amends for no Glass-Steagall act. Lobbyists successfully neuter every aspect of it as Congress goes along. Ongoing even recently.

    6%? How'bout .25% when holding government money. Of course with usury banks can charge 20% or 30% on credit card debit and make some money. Nice markup.

    Euroland banking was an attempt to be a Federal Reserve type bank except with major flaws from the outset. Still, all banking is based on debt creation and the outcome is predictable. When debt surpasses productivity usually 300% of GDP that is the point of no return. In the end, what good is holding worthless money? Euro headed to par with the US$ is only a hint of things to come. (continued)

  • rogerthat

    http://barentsobserver.com/en/security/2015/02/nuclear-waste-cooperation-will-continue-not-new-waste-06-02

    Nuclear waste cooperation will continue, but not for new waste

    “It is timely to look into what we are going to spend Norwegian money on. Russia must take responsibility,” says Norway’s Foreign Minister Børge Brende commenting on the increase in radioactive waste to be accumulated as Russia’s nuclear submarine construction hit post-Soviet peak.

    By Thomas Nilsen
    February 06, 2015
    Related
    Nuclear safety cooperation goes on
    More than 100 new nukes in northern waters

    • rogerthat

      http://www.motherearthwaterwalk.com/?p=2566

      CITY OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS JOINS CALL TO STOP PROPOSED NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP BESIDE THE GREAT LAKES

      FEBRUARY 8, 2015

      TORONTO — The City of Chicago, third most populous city in the United States, joins a growing number of communities, organizations and citizens in the United States and Canada calling for a halt to Ontario Power Generation’s plan to build an underground nuclear waste dump (a Deep Geological Repository or DGR) approximately 1km from the shore of Lake Huron.

      On January 21, 2015 the Chicago City Council unanimously passed resolution SR2014-892 opposing OPG’s proposed nuclear waste repository or any nuclear waste repository in the Great Lakes Basin.

      The Chicago resolution notes that OPG did not consider or evaluate any other actual sites for the location of the proposed DGR, and further that resolutions previously introduced in the U.S. Congress have called for the President and the Secretary of State to take steps to prevent a nuclear waste repository from being built within the Great Lakes Basin.

      “The Great Lakes hold 84 percent of North America’s fresh water and Chicago’s position as the paramount Great Lakes city makes OPG’s proposed nuclear waste repository a threat to both public health and our environment,” said Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel…

      • rogerthat

        “As shown by our City Council’s unanimous approval of a resolution opposing the repository, as well as the many voices throughout the United States and Canada, passionate support to protect our Great Lakes spans across North America and cannot be ignored.” …

        • We Not They Finally

          And what separates the Ontario Power Generation from TEPCO MORALLY? Nothing. It's just that one followed through and the other hasn't quite yet had the chance. Would love to see those corp execs jailed before they can proceed one step further. But the world is not working that way these days.

  • rogerthat

    http://exclaim.ca/Music/article/sam_larkin-nuclear_waste

    Sam Larkin
    "Nuclear Waste"
    By Sarah Murphy
    Feb 04, 2015

    Toronto musician Sam Larkin passed away in 2013, but his songs live on with the forthcoming release of The Secret Songs of Sam Larkin. The record doesn't arrive until later this month, but you can listen to "Nuclear Waste" right now on Exclaim.ca.

    Larkin served as a musical mentor to many in the community, including artists like Bob Wiseman. A founding member of Blue Rodeo and producer to Andrew Cash, Bruce McCulloch and the Lowest of the Low, Wiseman was at the helm for Larkin's final project, which will arrive on February 16 through his God Finds Cats label.

    "He was a great friend to many songwriters, the unknown types who mostly who go to open stages," Wiseman tells Exclaim! "Ron Sexsmith was also one of those people (and so was I) and his encouragement and friendship went along way towards helping us continue to believe in our dreams."

    On "Nuclear Waste," Larkin romanticizes the great outdoors and reflects on a past love, as he lambasts "those hydro dead-men" for poisoning nature to make a quick buck. Despite the aggressive environmental overtones, there's still an air of sweetness throughout the simple folk tune. Give it a listen below.

  • razzz razzz

    (continuing)

    Without being informed or more like un-brainwashed, it is hard comprehend or even follow along certain subject matters. As an example, Dr. Helen Caldicott's video has parts that are almost like a foreign language if you aren't introduced to nuclear basics first and I don't mean industry or government propaganda aspects. And she tries to simplifies everything.
    http://youtu.be/tikrIVNS-jk

    With banking, the same thing occurs unless you know the basics first. And it is not the textbook education you get in school that you need to know to follow along. Will make the world a bit more understandable absent the typical misdirection views.

    Some current examples Martin Armstrong's writing.

    'Beware the Turning Point for Bonds – 2015.75'
    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/02/beware-the-turning-point-for-bonds-2015-75/

    'The Hunt for Taxes – This will Not End Nicely'
    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/31/the-hunt-for-taxes-this-will-not-end-nicely/

    'It’s Always About CONFIDENCE'
    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/31/its-always-about-confidence/

    Did you understand anything he was pointing out? Does it make any sense to you? It is definitely not mainstream media showtime.

    Anyway his current pages always have links to other links like 'Library & History' 'Writings' 'Research' that you can assimilate at your leisure until you incorporate another train of thought whether you believe in it or not.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Unbelievable!
    Four years into the Fukushima Disaster, before TEPCO even begins looking
    at the big holes in Containments1-3.
    Those holes are yards wide, and will never be repaired.
    Four years after 3/11, and TEPCO has still not built an underground wall to divert the flowing aquifer away from Reactors1-4.

    Law suits? Prosecutions?
    No. In this world, corporate evildoers just get little fines for wrongdoing. If that.

    TEPCO is going to mess around inside Reactors1-3 with their imaging equipment for the next 2 years.
    In the end, they will say that they are perplexed to find no corium inside the containment vessels.
    They will be uncertain how to proceed.

    I ask once more:

    Where are the damn missing cores, TEPCO?

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    The robot probe will shed new light on what transpired inside the blown-out reactors.
    Here is some old footage from inside Unit1 containment.
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=7986

    In the end, TEPCO will probably term the results "inconclusive" and express the "need for additional study" before they proceed.
    Would anybody like to guess what TEPCO will be doing in year 10?

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    More on the robot they will use, thanks to SimplyInfo.com.
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14397

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Mr. Gundersen says bury it and walk away.
    Quite handy with the option ..essentially casting our fates in stone.

    "The best thing for the Japanese to do is to admit that they’re going to have to live with radioactive rubble at the Fukushima site for over 100 years"

    "they’re going to have to live with radioactive rubble"
    They mean die with it.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Link:
    Fukushima: Walk Away for 100 Years – Gundersen
    Feb 9 2015

    http://www.huntingtonnews.net/106199

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Begin 100' below ground, at lower limit of the Fukushima aquifer.
    Build an impermeable wall surrounding Units1-4.
    Sheet steel interlocking pilings, filled with concrete.
    Build a 100' wide reinforced concrete foundation.
    Empty SFP1-3.
    Fill reactors and containments with borated cement.
    Fill torus and torus basements with borated cement.
    Fill corium lava tubes with borated cement.
    Build a concrete sarcophagus over Reactor Ruins1-4.
    Cover with membrane roof to seal leaks from future earthquakes.

    This project should be well underway.
    Excuses are getting old.
    Corium is washing into the Pacific Ocean 24/7/365.
    Fukushima will bring Japan to ruin.

    • Where in that list are they removing or dealing with multiple melted out coria?

      Without that, none of it will make any difference.

      They should have practiced on the corium at Chernobyl, but they had already sacrificed 1 million people, so throwing another 1 million at handling and disposing of lava corium was considered not worth it.

      This time around, there is no choice.

      Unless japan sacrifices 1 million people on finding, digging out and 'handling' multiple coria, this will only get worse and worse and worse.

      FOREVER.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        I think bigger machines could dig out the corium, if its not too deep already. They need to go low tech. Built a perimeter wall, flood the entire area, go in with an earth mover. Their idea of robotics is flawed.

        http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/rwbrown/Earth%20Mover/earth3.jpg

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Why dig out, remove, and handle corium?
        Doc, best to leave corium where it is, some perhaps well into mudrock and sandstone below the plant.
        My solution is:
        "Fill corium lava tubes with borated cement.".
        As I noted in the list above.
        And:
        Isolate corium debris with an underground impermeable wall surrounding Units1-4.
        This wall extends to the lower limit of the aquifer, and would keep groundwater from leaching corium debris into the Pacific Ocean.
        My strategy leaves the corium where it is, but isolates it from the biosphere.

        So, big guy, what's your strategy for digging out, removing, and disposing of 257 tonnes of corium? 😉

        • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

          CodeShutdown, love your thinking on this.
          TEPCO has to begin to think big.
          The excavator you suggest would be ideal for digging the foundation for the sarcophagus.

          It could be used to dig out the corium, as Doc suggests.
          But doing so would turn this machinery into highly radioactive trash,
          Which would have to be carried out to sea on a barge, and dropped into the trench.

          Fukushima needs a concrete plant on site.
          Shiploads of re-bar should be offloaded in the harbor.
          Get busy, TEPCO.
          Fukushima is not going away, and needs to be dealt with now.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            Philip, I would go for even lower technology, using a totally sacrificial front end…well they probably need a monster saw/torch to cut though some of the stuff…they built the place, they can tear it down!

            Charcoal, clay and diatomaceous earth, covered over with replaceable EPDM membrane could act as worlds largest filter, cheap and easy to dig into as need be. I dont say these are final solutions, but pointers that the mindset is too limited.

            The largest impediment is this sentence; "TEPCO is making a profit for its shareholders this year"

        • Do a contest. Award 1 million to best idea generated.

          Advertise it on all mass media globally.

          Set up international committee with people like Gunderson, Busby, etc. as the review panel, pay them all $100,000 for their work over one year.

          Budget 1 TRILLION to get it done.

          IT WILL BE DONE.

          Anything the mind of man can conceive, it can achieve
          Napolean Hill

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I thought I would share the highlighted good stuff of my internet day with those of you who daily tackle this reality of the red pill.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQeNXp9UbAmDM9_4dtPraSQ

    May you all soar like angels…

  • Angela_R

    Japan Diet Member Taro Yamamoto On Fukushima, War, Privatization & TPP
    5th February, 2015

    view here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bySXUAXt5hE#t=1098

  • Angela_R

    MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect
    Rad Chick

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mctuo1gZMWg

    and with the high radiation that would still be being emitted,
    I fail to see how any equipment could get close to the coriums at Fukushima without falling to pieces.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Angela, …reminds me of the General who said "with all the bullets flying around, I fail to see how any soldier could go into battle without falling to pieces" …well there must be SOMETHING that could dig up corium, even if it does get destroyed in the process…Think?

      Did you see the corium flowing out of the big pipes at Chernobyl?

  • razzz razzz

    If you are TEPCO, all these ideas are to expensive to carry out. Easier to let the melts leach into the Pacific Ocean and say they are working on a fix for the next 100 years.

    Go look up how long it takes to decommission an intact old reactor and see if it has ever been done before. You will learn they move the cut up pieces of the old reactor around until they can find a nuke dump site to accept them. Never really goes away. Then there is the spent fuels to deal with.

    Japan's answer is to restart nuke reactors because they are so safe to operate. That is the definition of insanity.

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Razzz:
      Agree 100%.
      If you FIND the corium, extract it, and transport it…

      To where?
      What will you do with it then?

      In the final analysis,
      Better to leave it where it is,
      Then try to isolate it from the biosphere, as best as you can.

      IMHO, Fukushima corium will never be found.
      And, even if it is to be found, it will never be moved.
      And, even if it is moved,
      There is no better place to put it.

      US nuclear energy must never be allowed to go forward, unless the 23 GE Mark I reactors are first decommissioned.
      If these 23 proven unsafe reactors are allowed to continue in operation, trust between the NRC/DOE/neclear industry, and the American people has been broken forever. And…
      Nuclear plant operation must be stopped for all time…

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Philip…no better place to put it? How about some place other than an aquifer/earthquake zone/sea side? Nuclear waste; no better place than just lying around

        Enewetak …good to go
        http://terraoko.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cactus-dome-2013-07-24-5.jpg

      • razzz razzz

        I would at least like to see the melts contained where we could keep an eye on them. As the melts erode away, those fractions will never be recovered but the main damage has been done already with Units 1&3 blowing up and spreading their radioactive poisons very efficiently.

        Timetables for removing spent fuels from Units 1,2&3 have been put on hold because TEPCO can't deal with the surrounding high radioactivity. It is not like it is going to get better anytime soon, maybe in a few decades.

        If there is still any fissioning taking place in the melts, it keeps resetting the clock for a cool down period and keeps releasing more deadly fission products in the process. Saying it is in cold shutdown doesn't make it so.

  • This is really basic.

    When you make trash as a company, you must dispose of it safely.

    If your radioactive trash ends up polluting/killing the entire ocean and air supply for a nation, you must take care of that, immediately.

    If you cannot do that, you have no right to be in business.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Exactly! 🙂
    "If you cannot do that, you have no right to be in business." !!!!

  • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

    Hatrick Penry exposes the Fukushima Unit 4 spent fuel offload hoax

    A must see. Anybody who hasn't viewed this is missing vital information.

    "I want to be perfectly clear: those promoting the Fukushima Unit 4 spent fuel offload hoax are ALSO the same media outlets that refuse to report on the NRC FOIA documents. Those FOIAs were being released as early as June of 2011. Follow the link to my book below to find out what these wolf-in-sheep's-clothing media outlets are intentionally NOT reporting on. Yes, the infiltration of our media IS THAT WIDESPREAD."
    Hatrick Penry

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHdrlXWdITw

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