Japan Times: Fukushima may be inundated by typhoon on Monday — Center of storm forecast to pass over nuclear plant — Over 15 inches of rain predicted in region — Flood and mudslide warnings issued for Pacific coast (PHOTO)

Published: September 15th, 2013 at 2:18 pm ET
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The Japan Times, Sept. 15, 2013: Meteorological Agency projects storm will come ashore in Shizuoka but may hit Fukushima [...] In the 24 hours until Monday evening [...] 400 mm [15.75 inches of rain is expected] in Tohoku [...] Man-yi might also inundate Fukushima, where utility crews are struggling to contain highly radioactive water leaking from and flowing under the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant and into the Pacific Ocean at an estimated rate of 300 tons a day. [...]

AFP, Sept. 15, 2013: Typhoon Man-yi advanced towards central Japan on Sunday, bringing heavy rains as officials warned of floods and strong winds [...] packing gusts up to 126 kilometres (78 miles) per hour [...] Man-yi might also hit Fukushima, where crews have struggled to contain a crippled nuclear plant that has contaminated groundwater with radioactive materials as it flows to the Pacific Ocean. [...] The weather agency issued warnings for flooding, heavy rain, mudslides and high ocean waves to areas along the Pacific coast.

UPDATE: Reports: Fears for Fukushima plant as typhoon now only a few hours away -- Officials warn of floods at site -- Storm gusting over 150 km/hr -- Workers frantically pumping up water -- Torrential rain to force more contamination into groundwater (MAP)

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29 comments to Japan Times: Fukushima may be inundated by typhoon on Monday — Center of storm forecast to pass over nuclear plant — Over 15 inches of rain predicted in region — Flood and mudslide warnings issued for Pacific coast (PHOTO)

  • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

    I'm eager to see what happens with this. I'll have my popcorn ready.


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    • Cisco Cisco

      High radioactive atmospheric dispersion and soil liqufication… good potential for building and tank collapse.


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      • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

        That's a big 10-4 there Cisco. It's liquefaction by the way my man. Getting to radioactive to even work there anymore. Nobody can get near 1,2, or 3 anymore, much less go in and look for any long gone coriums. Unit 4 is the next emergency we will face and its gonna be a monster like never imagined. Fuel impossible to remove at this point. Some has melted and fused together, some already broken, more will break if tampered with. Must be buried deep and fast before it topples at any time. Whole damn world should be pitching in right this second. All wars put on hold and come together with ALL resources. What part of ELE don't they fu..ing understand?????????????????????????????????????


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  • KDM KDM

    Hope they have some generators ready to go. Not sitting in a dug out area.


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    • Sickputer

      KDM writes: "Hope they have some generators ready to go. Not sitting in a dug out area."

      SP: The situation is well beyond the help of functioning generators.

      The containment work has been noteworthy for the fact there has been money and manpower expended in the limited areas they could work without dying 10 days later. Some have undoubtedly died from radiation exposure as Tepco has lied about that (their confession upcoming in the next few years).

      Units 1-3 in the complex are a raging deathtrap for human activity. The radioactive filtered debris water stored and the scores of the smaller toxic water sludge containers (which rival the worst of anything found at Hanford Site) represent just a tiny fraction of what has and will gush into the Pacific Ocean.

      Although the work by humans has been extremely hazardous, the suicide work missions have been few and mostly unreported. The real question is what will Japan (and the world) do if the plant is fully evacuated?

      How will they respond to that looming upcoming situation? To me that is the ultimate out of control scenario. I dohbt they have any viable plans for that nightmare come true.


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      • KDM KDM

        I totally agree with you SP. But if there isn't power for the water pumps feeding the sfp's they'll dry up, no matter how much rain they get. This is assuming they're still standing.


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        • mopar69 mopar69

          KDM here is a video of the truck, pumps and generators.It's a bit old and the title is well..you'll see. Anyway it gives and idea of what they have. Peace.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ7WPmA9q6w&html5=1


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        • Sickputer

          I am sure the Dr. Frankensteins in charge are spending a lot of time considering numerous wacky plans for the spent fuel ponds in case humans can't survive onsite. Probably a Japanese-American version of Operation Plowshare.

          How ironic would it be to fight nuclear fire with nuclear fire? Probably insane, but at this point I would venture every option is on the table. But there will be no cameras to view any desperate last ditch effort to bury their problem child.

          Stay tuned for more trouble at Fukushima Daiichi…


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          • Sickputer

            They are limited to a 149-kiloton blast underground:

            "In the PNE Treaty the signatories agreed: not to carry out any individual nuclear explosions having a yield exceeding 150 kilotons; not to carry out any group explosion (consisting of a number of individual explosions) having an aggregate yield exceeding 1,500 kilotons; and not to carry out any group explosion having an aggregate yield exceeding 150 kilotons unless the individual explosions in the group could be identified and measured by agreed verification procedures. The parties also reaffirmed their obligations to comply fully with the Limited Test Ban Treaty of 1963.

            The parties reserve the right to carry out nuclear explosions for peaceful purposes in the territory of another country if requested to do so, but only in full compliance with the yield limitations and other provisions of the PNE Treaty and in accord with the Non-Proliferation Treaty."

            http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_nuclear_explosions

            SP: All options will be on the table if Fukushima Daiichi goes totally rogue. I bet we have access to some old munitions that could push a mountain over onto an island and lagoon. That won't solve the water pollution, but burning fuel ponds present a far more immediate danger.

            I don't advocate such a plan at this late stage of the game (it would have been better odds earlier in the battle), but what other options will they have other than a massive aerial entombment effort?


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            • We Not They Finally

              O.k. You know we are already in serious trouble when the wording contains, "nuclear explosions for peaceful purposes." And if the Japanese followed laws, there would not have been MOX fuel on site in the first place. (And there is probably some big etc-etc-etc. to be tacked on.)

              Fortunately, they probably cannot blow the site into the sea without wrecking an unknown amount of Japanese land along with it. Plus who-knows-what still-on-land residue.

              But that they are considering "numerous wacky plans"? That's probably believable.


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          • KDM KDM

            Wouldn't you like to know what's happening when the cameras mysteriously go off from time to time. Too bad we're not able to view the site with closer, higher quality cameras that are certainly monitoring the site.


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      • bsgcic bsgcic

        Sickputer wrote "The real question is what will Japan (and the world) do if the plant is fully evacuated?"

        Looks like that is likely to happen. Gundersen mentioned in the audio (link below) that he believes that will happen "for a couple of days" after they begin to attempt to remove fuel rods from the spent fuel in reactor #4.
        Actually, it would seem that if they had to evacuate for a couple of days, then the situation would be pretty bad (i.e., as compared to it already being terrible right now — and thus "pretty bad" = "much much worse than now") and that a couple of days would likely be longer than that.
        enenews.com/gundersen-fukushima-unit-4-fuel-racks-distorted-quake-roof-falling-pool-nuclear-rods-snap-wont-be-able-remove-be-able-be-removed-audio

        Hey by the way, anyone know of or can recommend a reputable lab in North America for testing for radioactivity (e.g., via urine sample and/or blood sample)? My wife (Japanese national)'s cousin who lives near Tokyo would like to test his 8 yr old son and 5 yr old daughter for internal radiation. They eat meals provided by their schools (cannot bring in food from home) and other news over the last couple years have reported that schools across Japan are mandated to serve food from Fukushima to support the local Fukushima farmers. Sometimes when he goes to the supermarket, they only have vegetables from Fukushima and this trend seems to be increasing.

        Thanks


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        • We Not They Finally

          There is a good Geiger counter called an "Inspector" (maybe that's not the full name). Michael Collins of enviroreporter.com. pushes it for food testing. He's not in with that company at all — he just wants people to have good testing equipment. Check his website.


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        • bo bo

          One temporary solution to the school lunch situation:declare severe allergy issues and say they need lunch from home


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        • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

          Have them send the samples to Arnie Gundersen. You can find his contact information at http://www.Fairewinds.com

          He is trustworthy, knowledgeable, level-headed, and has nuclear credentials (he was a nuclear engineer who worked on/with fuel racks).

          Arnie is the best, but Christopher Busby and Helen Caldicott will also help people who are looking to send samples from Japan.

          (off-topic): bo has a good point…declare an issue like that to make sure that the kids are not eating school lunches. There has been way too much information that shows that the schools are serving food that is much more contaminated than what could be available with even a little bit of prudence and selectivity.


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          • bsgcic bsgcic

            Thank you everyone for the information.
            The Inspector looks like a great geiger counter. I have the Radalert 100 which I ordered in March 2011 when my family and I were living in Japan (for 8 years) until we moved back to the Massachusetts on 3/28/11 (delay for getting my youngest son's passport then 2-months old).
            Michael Collins's enviroreporter.com looks like a great site. I had not seen that site before.
            I had thought about Arnie Gundersen and Helen Caldicott (and Ian Goddard). This is the first that I have heard of Christopher Busby. It looks like he has very good information from the bit of his work that I have read since seeing your posts.
            My wife found the following lab. I cannot tell from their website how credible they are or if there is a better lab.
            http://www.gel.com/services/env_lab/radiation_exposure_testing.html
            I agree with everyone's feelings about the school lunches. That was a major factor in my wife an my reasoning back in March 2011 to literally drop everything and move back.
            In Japan, the school has more authority than parents regarding children. Thus, parents are not able to dictate that the kids have a lunch brought from home. Any medical claims must be presented with evidence from a doctor. The culture is very strict in that regard. The parents really have the least power.


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  • Livingonearth

    The so called scientifie and technical civilisation started with a LIE : we all accepted the LIE : in fact we never went to the Moon.

    Lies build nazism, facism, and technological dictatorship.

    And here we are today : Lies everywhere by Colin Powel and Tepco

    Three nuclear melthrough and Olympic games

    Japan sinking andd Northern Hemisphere in danger.

    ELE in progress

    Wake up …

    Might be too late

    Peace to all creatures.


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  • dosdos dosdos

    Not only will this have an immediate effect, but provided the site survives the storm relatively intact, there will be a marked increase in groundwater flow for weeks, if not months.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    I have been watching this for the past few days and pray that reactor four is able to withstand the wind and deluge of water.


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  • jec jec

    Worse wind rain side for Fukushima, the onshore winds will add to the forward speed of the storm too. Darn it. See :
    http://www.passageweather.com/
    Select the Pacific, then the box for Japan. Animate and watch. Its really close to the island right now.


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  • jackassrig

    The rain water will be roaring down the mountain sides to wash away soil away from FUKU. TEPCO should have anticipated a deluge and built jumps to slow the water, as downstream of dams. TEPCO just has to brighten up. Divert the damn water around the plant.


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    • We Not They Finally

      Is that no. 37 of what they should have done yesterday, or no. 93? Sometimes it is unclear that they have done ANYTHING constructive.


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      • nedlifromvermont

        Hey there WNTF! You say they haven't done anything constructive? Well these guys are purveyors of nuclear power plants after all. You can't expect "constructive" from these types. With the nucleocrats it's all greed, greed, greed and me, me, me and you guys take the risk, and we'll take the profits, and we get paid lots of money to lie in our sleep, much less lie on tv or even in your face!

        Have you hugged a nuclear power supporter today? Hope not; if so, you're likely contaminated.

        And we let them do it, because they had all the power, and the glory, and the money, (no wonder they thought they were God,) and they bought the right to screw up and not to have to pay for it, with real money, "earned" from running a government-sanctioned monopoly! That's the truth, whether you like it or not.

        And they feel superior to you and to me, because in the nuclear power industry, the standard pay is two and one half times that of any other "industry."

        That's the price for blood money.

        Things that make you go, "Huh!"

        Auschwitz prison guards never had it so good, or perpetrated so much evil.

        Roll that beautiful baked bean footage …


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  • rogerthat

    in my view, it's silly to think that the ha ha somewhat late arrival of the mainstream media is going to be much help, just as it's silly to hope that governments will do anything real about the situation. all this nonsense about leaks and 300 tons a day of highly radioactive water flowing into the sea, or the harbour, where it's ''contained'' – what a joke – or the impermeable wall – what a joke – or encasing the complex in concrete is just hot air. it truly doesnt matter. 300 tons a day? that's tepco's figure, plucked out of fantasy land. who cares, it's ALL going to end up in the pacific. The US government's primary concern, in my view, is to prevent americans at large from realising that the the land of the free and the brave is kissed, that it has effectively nuked itself. The plants melted down because the earthquake broke the cooling pipes, not because of the tsunami. Reactor one at least, and probably all of them, were overheating before the tsunami hit. At least one radiation alarm was triggered before the tsunami. The reason it matters is that america has i think 26 of this particular GE reactor model, some of which are built on fault lines or earthquake zones. Does anyone here imagine that america is going to survive its own meltdowns? The latest US plan for a radioactive emergency does not focus on evacuations, it plans to let people ''shelter'' – that is, die – in place.


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