Japan Times: Fukushima plant plagued by problems as radioactive material bleeds into Pacific — Radiation level in groundwater now 25,000 times higher than when year began

Published: September 20th, 2014 at 8:47 pm ET
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Japan Times, Sept 19, 2014: Tainted water problems still plague Fukushima, despite some positive signs — More than three years since [3/11] the Fukushima No. 1 power plant is still bleeding tons of toxic radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean… [It’s] developed into a wider problem that is stoking public concern… [Tepco] is still trying to find a way to deal with the plant’s utility trenches, which are filled with highly contaminated water. The trenches, which run beneath the plant, were built to house cables and pipes… installed to bring in seawater for cooling purposes… Leaving the tainted water in the trenches is risky. For instance, if another major quake hits and damages the trenches, the toxic water will escape and contaminate the groundwater. Tepco said the trenches… can’t be drained until the leaks from the buildings are plugged…

Asahi Shimbun, Sept 19, 2014: Local fishermen are crying foul over [TEPCO’s] latest plan to discharge processed contaminated water… into the ocean. TEPCO and the central government held the first explanatory briefing… Their explanation was apparently unconvincing. “I can’t believe anything TEPCO says,” one of the attendees said after the meeting… many members of local fisheries associations opposed the plan on the opening day of the briefing sessions… [Others] expressed concern over the plan’s safety. “If a critical problem should occur, (local fisheries) would be severely damaged,” [fisherman Yoshinori Sato] said. “They wouldn’t be able to recover.” Another member criticized the utility for burdening local fishermen with such proposals, asking, “How many times will we have to make a similar painful decision?”

While Japan’s media outlets are focused on the meetings between government/Tepco and the fishermen over the whether to allow ‘processed’ contaminated water releases, new Tepco data published September 18 reveals strontium-90 concentrations are at record levels in groundwater just 100 feet from the ocean. Gross beta has risen to 720 million becquerels per cubic meter (Bq/m³) — and according to Tepco’s most recent strontium-90 tests released September 10 (4 months after the samples were taken), strontium-90 comprises over 95% of the total gross beta at this location — resulting in a Sr-90 concentration of 695 million Bq/m³. At the start of 2014, 28,000 Bq/m³ of gross beta was detected in groundwater from the same well — now 8 months later, the levels are over 25,000 times greater.

See also: Ocean hits record high for radioactive Strontium at all 6 locations near Fukushima reactors — Levels up to 20 times higher than reported last week

Published: September 20th, 2014 at 8:47 pm ET
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106 comments to Japan Times: Fukushima plant plagued by problems as radioactive material bleeds into Pacific — Radiation level in groundwater now 25,000 times higher than when year began

  • Proton

    Wow the numbers keep getting higher and higher as time goes by!

    every day a step closer to the truth?

    • OldFool

      The German Rhine River reactor meltdown simulation predicted this. That was the only computer simulation corresponding to reality. All the TEPCO numbers about the leak rate and leach rate are fantasy numbers. The entire radioactive inventories of three cores will be going into the Pacific beyond all doubt. The Sr-90 will be the worst of all.

      • OldFool

        TEPCO must be removed without delay, the situation is getting more dire by the day. Leaving a profit-seeking corp like TEPCO in charge from 3/11/11 has been and will continue to be the human race's greatest mistake in 6000 years.

        • itsanuclearwar

          It is no mistake that TEPCO is allegedly in charge. This way TEPCO can be blamed, and is the fall guy.

          The greatest mistake of the human race is it's willful ignorance of the international banksters and the banking system they have instilled which gave them the power to enslave and kill us all. Nothing comes close to this fact, as they own everything under the sun. Nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care, nobody is to blame. EVERYBODY IS TO BLAME FOR CHOOSING TO REMAIN WILLFULLY IGNORANT OF THE BANKING SYSTEM, PERIOD.

        • nedlifromvermont

          @old fool … what was the big mistake 6,000 years ago? Eating the apple and putting on clothing?

          I think it is safe to say the whole profit making thing from uranium was mankind's biggest mistake ever … and the Tepco follies are a direct result of that (General Electric-led) nonsense …

          The German Meltdown simulation hits close to the mark … and, yet, the Germans still built the damn things in the upper Rhine River valley …

          Who made that stupid decision? Franz Josef Strauss or Konrad Adenauer? At least they have found a way to throw the nuclear monkey off their back …

          How can we become a little more German …. seeing as almost all our politicians have sold out to the uranium cartel?

          Silly stupid humans with the whole uranium alchemy thing. The uranium should have been left in the ground … nicht wahr?

          peace at the 'newsers!

          • OldFool

            6000 years ago was the beginning of civilization and organized societies.
            Since every commercial nuclear reactor is totally dependent on cooling water provided by pipes, and none of these piping systems can withstand a direct hit from a truly strong earthquake without snapping like twigs, every operating reactor that gets a direct hit will have a meltdown, unless emergency cooling systems are provided by airlifts within hours.
            But This was all predictable. What was not predictable was that a profit seeking corporation would be left in defacto control of all remediation efforts – as a decoy duck to take all the potshots of blame if anything else goes wrong. This saved some face for the government officials who should have stepped in with billions of dollars of immediate action. But the final results of this is – what was once a serious major disaster in March of 2011 that required immediate comprehensive remediation regardless of expense, has now progressed step by step over 3.5 years into an absolutely totally mind-boggling, cataclysmic fireball of unimaginable disaster in a thousand different directions and aspects.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Yes, not only predictable, but well known, and with the power of select government money and sovereign wielded power, they all willing moved forward, and now the entire planet will sadly suffer. 70 years is a very, very, short time period…

            • OF, your assessment, while completely accurate imho, will be hard for the world to accept. Given how much nuclear waste has knowingly been unleashed into the environment, yet human populations continue to rise, it is easy for TEPCo and various governments to believe that they will not also eventually start to fall once the long term effects of radiation take hold. Said folks instinctively disputing each study that comes along and also simply failing to share truth amongst themselves, your selection of the most likely radioactive particles to permeate the environment will come to pass. I wish it were to so.

      • We Not They Finally

        They are not already leaching into the Pacific? No one can believe that.

      • 1289 days later, still. Come on, People. Get the Rad Word Out.

        Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too!
        http://tinyurl.com/fukushimabusinesscard4u

        These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out.
        Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.
        If you have 2 sided printing issues side 2, with links, stands alone.

        Until you find one not planted by you.

        Other practical resources with rep contacts as they seem to be the gatekeepers in charge
        http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-13#comment-478924

        Or pull a Dana and go Large…

        9-19-2014 Combo Underwater and Boat Bamfield BC Canada Day 6
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOLbpqzrtk

        Until We somehow change things, TEPCO will be head Straw Man.
        Ya…

      • hbjon hbjon

        Could st90 be worse than Pu239, U235, or the heavier transuranic isotopes? What elements contain the most potential energy that will manifest at some time in the future? U235 splits in two and liberates two nucleons. If an isotope of U238 is allowed to naturally decay, it will liberate many more nucleons than either Krypton or Barium. This energy takes many years to manifest and unfold.
        One thing is certain. We do not want the energy to unfold in our glass of drinking water or tuna sandwich.

        • OldFool

          In terms of their very impressive solubility in water and the intensity of their radiation per picogram, Sr-90 and Cs-137 are going to be more immediately dangerous than most of the transuranics, which will be slower killers.

          • OldFool

            Pu-241 (which quickly decays to Am-241) and Pu-238 would be more intensely radioactive than most of their siblings, so their danger is not insignificant. But the total percentage yield and the solubility of Sr-90 and Cs-137 should still make them the worst killers.

        • StPaulScout StPaulScout

          hb – "One thing is certain. We do not want the energy to unfold in our glass of drinking water or tuna sandwich."

          Unfortunately that may be only so much wish-full thinking about now.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        The "entire" Fukushima inventories will not go into the Pacific. Some of the inventory already went up into the air and circles the planet. The rest will go into the Pacific, bioaccumulating over time.

      • MVB Michael Van Broekhoven

        @OldFool – Indeed. I checked on that study and found it predicts Sr-90 to begin increasing sharply in groundwater some 3 years in (it has!), and continue worsening for the coming years, to reach peak levels around 2020.
        The same model predicts Cs-137 to begin its groundwater spiking around 2038(-ish) and the whole mess of extremely high levels of groundwater contamination wouldn't wind down until some time later in the next century at the earliest.
        –> This, plus some additional observations, in my 9/25/2014 blogpost about this,
        "Strontium-90 skyrocketing in Fukushima’s On-Site Groundwater. German meltdown model that predicted this suggests worst is yet to come." Includes graph from German Study and borehole locations map @

        http://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2014/09/25/strontium-90-skyrocketing-in-fukushimas-on-site-groundwater-german-meltdown-model-that-predicted-this-suggests-worst-is-yet-to-come/

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          So we are all screwed?

          What about those 50,000 strong technical intellectual warriors sitting and staring at the blackboards in all those meetings?

          Are they all screwed too?

          Ergo: Shut them (Nuclear Power Plants) all down now!

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      You said it, WOW 25 thousand times greater in 8 months. Hmm could it possibly be caused from criticality's or is it just the conversion of fresh mountain water flowing over the corium but since it is increasing obviously a dire reaction is taking place unfortunately, one without a solution and no end in sight. I keep thinking if only they had left the natural sea wall stand perhaps only one partial meltdown from the 3/11 earthquake would have occurred. Oh well…….

    • just breathe just breathe

      Never the truth from Tepco, only inflated and deflated levels of "safe"
      never ending death. Truth will be found in the numbers… Just not their numbers!

  • dunkilo

    TEPCO needs to invent new numbers….to infinity and beyond! sorry Buzz..how bout GEGAQUADRILLION?
    About the truth ..it will never come from them, ever.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Thanks dunKilo you made me smile with "to infinity.." and after reading yet another Tepco number warp I really needed a chuckle.

      • dunkilo

        Your welcome moon…My warped sense of humor gets me though all this,otherwise would be weeping all the time…I cringe at the thought of my 15 year old and the worlds children have to deal with their parents apathy.I mean MY apathy and countless others.
        We fracked up …

  • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

    Tepco has perfected the art of endless blather. I guess it goes nicely with the endless poisoning of the planet they are managing. Oh, the completely compliant media is an integral part of this absurdity as well. Add in a dash of lying, monstrous politicians and you get a hell of a witches brew.

  • 76MillionBananas 76MillionBananas

    How many bananas is that? 25,000 times more than 76 million?

  • We Not They Finally

    It's painful to see what the fishermen are being put through. Everything they are catching has to be unedible, anyway; they should also have long since been evacuated as well. But they and the officials keep talk about what MIGHT work, like there must be some future plan out there. The only viable plan afoot seems to be death of the way of life, then death of the people.

    The torment of living in traditional territory which is no longer liveable and will only get worse; yet no one (or few) are leaving and no one is saying the obvious.

    Is "25,000 times higher" just another number now?

  • dosdos dosdos

    Nuclear shills at nuclearstreet.com claimed yesterday that cesium and strontium levels are falling sharply and are well below the national safety limit. Spin, spin, spin….

    http://nuclearstreet.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/archive/2014/09/19/fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-plant-weekly-review-091902.aspx

    • We Not They Finally

      A lot of people will die who don't deserve to die. Cannot say that about the authors of the despicable article that is linked.

      First there was Orwell. Then there was Goebbels. Then there is this.

      • nedlifromvermont

        @WNTF

        Josef Goebbels was George Orwell's (Eric Arthur Blair's) senior by some six years … Orwell became famous in 1949 for "1984" and was dead at 47 a year later … from tuberculosis … Goebbels died in the Hitler Bunker in Berlin in 1945, at age 48.

        Then there was Price Anderson. And now there is this …

        peace at you both!

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        At least Orwell was trying to alert us to what was coming, the social engineering he knew was planned for our collective future.

    • I have found the St90 levels to be strong lt blue light scatter from inclusion in the sky in the solar continuum spectra and prominent in the sky every day. So reduced?? ROFLMAO what BULL! These people really need to be educated in the XYZ's of basic science, hanging like bats from the rafters by their toes!

      Tonight we have small highly excited by transuranic ELEments monsoonal clouds, shooting thin BRIGHT blue bolts of lightning to each other all over the sky! Kinda the same as Majia reported…All coming from the new oceanic 'hot spots'. OK let's talk sea levels rising. What if the transmutation of Cs 137 into Ba 137 adds Bucky balls and carbon cage molecules to the crystalline metal Barium matrix, the additional displacement in volume may be why those high in altitude (for surface levels) but not so much warm spots are there on the surface of the sea. If this IS indicative of what we are in for from Cs137 that HAS changed into larger, more complicated crystallographic geometric shapes as of late things may soon get a bit tricky on a beach near you, when all that has NOT converted makes its change. This upwards rushing motion has indeed been observed, AGAINST the zonal winds in the Pacific where the pendulum swing of thermal change seems to have been altered. This extra insulation may eventually shunt the flow of the saline cycle currents…

  • Gen. Buck Turgidson

    Nothing to see here. Move along…
    Nothing to see here. MOVE ALONG!

    bang poof that's the way it goes?

    • 53rockwell 53rockwell

      MOVE! In the early 70s we did more traing for riot and crowd control than practicing for war in the USMC at 29 Palmeras. Guess Uncle Sugar was ,and still is worried about domestic violence here at home:)

  • hbjon hbjon

    A very, very, very important point to understand is that the water underneath and surrounding the wreckage at the FDNPP's is so toxic that it could hurt many people if a few drops were to fall in the hands of the evildoers. Fortunately for civilization, competent humans are guarding this wreckage and water carefully.

  • Gasser Gasser

    More truer to the fact and reality of those headlines should read>

    Japan Bad Times; Fukushima plant plagued by problems as radioactive material Breeds Daughter Isotopes into the Pacific and Atmosphere none stop.

  • GOM GOM

    Although it's heart is rich in pearls and ores
    The Sea complains upon a thousand shores. …

  • lucius.cornelius

    Fukushima plant plagued by problems

    Zen and the art of understatement.

  • skizexq skizexq

    I showed the docu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mthza0yiE0
    to my friend and she shut down and said too depressing and walked out, I found it highly interesting, but yes, depressing too…
    …how can anyone get through to all around who are so cherishing their own ignorance? They keep saying 'there's nothing I can do about it.." conversion dead.
    wtf.

    • YukonRadiation YukonRadiation

      Oh well ! it happens too most of us? sad but true! so chin up and remember they will be back when things take a turn for the worse! and always never back down from your belief's ! I try and not get too mad when people blow you off as a nut . when that happens be calm and look for facts you can use like the colors of the rain bow and ask how many colors there are now in it! that one makes people walk away thinking very hard and i have yet to have someone not come back and ask more about that?

    • 53rockwell 53rockwell

      Yeah . I want to give up to. Its easy to quit. Thats what we breed out , and kick out in USMC boot camp. quiters. Ya cant quit dammit. go go go. If ya quit I wil personally give ya a boot in the ass my own self.Fight Nukes, fight war, fight your own government if necessary, organize !

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    And when ya organize ,have a misson statement, there will be plenty of disinfo agents come in and try to take over your movement. The Government has learned to deal with movements pretty good. Dont go in with your eyes closed. Have a few good frinds from the beginning. Any newcomers are suspect. Paranoid and righteously so.

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    And dont take no money from nobody.Be like Jesus and his first church. Be self supporting. If ya take their money you a whore and they bitch 🙂

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    Old lessons learned the hard way 🙁

  • eatliesndie eatliesndie

    Yay! 25000 times more contamination in the groundwater (which, incidentaly, flows into the pacific ocean), yay! record breaking ammounts of strontiunm 90 found flowing into the pacific ocean. Getting worse as the years go by….How much more of this clean, green, nuclear power can we take?

  • SadieDog

    Nuclear humor, John Oliver last week tonite : nuclear weapons
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1ya-yF35g

  • Don't let the nuketards use the CO2 and Global Warming lies to promote nuclear.
    ——————
    “The dysfunctional nature of the climate sciences is nothing short of a scandal. Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” The global warming establishment “has actively suppressed research results presented by researchers that do not comply with the dogma of the [UN] IPCC.” — Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring of the Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics Unit at Stockholm University. – See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/un-climate-change-1000-scientists-say-no_092014#sthash.RsVghHa0.dpuf

    I agree with the analysis. I took ALL of the worldwide temperature measurements from 1880 to 2013 and performed averages and other statistical analysis and plotted them in various ways.

    The takeaway?
    1) No global warming for the last 17 years, the same period in which TPTB have beat the dead horse senseless spouting their non-sense.
    2) There is more extreme outliers of temperature, however oddly enough, the standard deviation of the temperature ranges has actually decreased whilst these extremes have manifested.

    stock out, real data and charts here, check it out.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/08/global-warming-real-information-from.html

    • YukonRadiation YukonRadiation

      Yes , finally someone has put the data together online and is readable to all! i have been saying to my girlfriend that global warming was a bunch of lies and that it was being caused by the nukpukes and the rest of there lovely friends! thanks Stock!

      • yep, I suspected GW was perhaps overblown.

        Looking at the data itself makes it a no-brainer

        Spread the word. Lets not let the nuketards play the "nuke will save us from GW" card.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          Why climate science denial courtesy of the New York Post measures five miles high
          Scientists respond to climate science denialists’ claims in Murdoch-owned New York Post
          “If you put all the ice that melts every year from Antarctica and Greenland on top of Manhattan Island, it would make a pile more than five miles high….”
          http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2014/sep/18/why-climate-science-denial-courtesy-of-the-new-york-post-measures-five-miles-high

          This is why we absolutely must shut down all nuclear reactors. We will have climate chaos and rapidly diminishing oxygen supplies by next year if all nuclear reactors and coal are not shut down immediately.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            “The rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) due to unabated carbon emissions have been given much attention in recent years because of its major impact on global temperatures, climate, ocean chemistry, etc. Recently, it has also been reported to affect the level of oxygen (O2) in the atmosphere. Dr. Ralph Keeling estimated that about three O2 molecules are lost every time a single CO2 molecule is produced by fossil fuel combustion (Johnston, 2007). A 0.0317% decline in atmospheric oxygen has been recorded thus far (for the period 1990 to 2008) (Klusinske, 2010).

            “Fortunately, the world’s oceans (which cover 70% of the Earth’s surface) function as an efficient carbon sink. They absorb about half of the anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere (Sabine et al., 2004), thereby buffering the effects of excess atmospheric CO2. Unfortunately however, this is not without consequence to ocean chemistry. Elevated atmospheric CO2 have been reported to cause ocean warming, acidification and recently, the decline in ocean oxygen levels.

            “II. Declining Ocean Oxygen Levels

            “ Scientists have recorded a steady decline in ocean oxygen in open waters of the North Pacific Ocean of about 0.3% per year since the 1950s. This “steady decline in ocean oxygen levels was discovered among a roughly 20-year cycle of fluctuating oxygen that is driven by the effects of lunar procession on the tides,” according to Conners (2011) (See Figure 1 below)….”
            http://www

          • @Anne

            I think a real risk is that plankton and earth plants and trees are severely impacted by radiation, thus eliminating them from turning atmospheric carbon into "locked carbon" forms, think trees are useful.

            Always use wood to build things and then plant trees too.

          • Global Oxygen Levels Are Dropping In Major Cities And Oceans, From A High Of 35% In Geological History; How To Measure Oxygen Levels In Air Yourself
            http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/08/global-oxygen-levels-are-dropping-to-as.html

      • Well, they've put together third hand assessments of one sided disputations, which has its place. None of these opinion pieces have any original work or research, just crunched numbers of their choosing. It might be called "data" the way that TEPCo says they have data – a set of projected models taken from handpicked numbers and values to fit a theory. In it's loosest interpretation, everyone, including TEPCo has data. Their data changes for various reasons from taking more accurate measurements to finally getting caught and revealing better information. Yet, here we are agreeing with them that the radiation levels in the trenches ARE rising exponentially and that is reason for worry. Yet, we do not have accurate measurement of the open waters. They chose to include some data and left out other data or they just don't have the other data. Still data, though. Still put together. Still projecting models making claims. You can tell a lie or tell a truth with the same data.

  • Nick

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/sectionhub.aspx?fid=798

    Try to do a search at above site on Fukushima.

    "search function not working at this time"

    Ya think the WNN wants us all to just FORGET fuckedupshameaa?

    Yup.

    Sally Forth all ye nuketards, you are the chosen ones!

  • Anyone else having problems with access to main page? Looks like more and more, plus different error messages popping up.

    Not a good trend…

  • Nick

    Dr G.

    I think we are witnessing quantum flucuations. Nothing to worry about.

    All of us on enenews know that the NSA is watching our every fart, burp, and hiccup as well.

    In a sense, we all know how fubared FD-NPP is. Things will only get worse.

    Love for today. Cherish the past. The future is gone.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Things are slow and maybe it's from the potential worldwide panic gearing about ebola..

    Not sure any of us will need clean undies.. lots of talk about ebola going airborne! 🙁
    http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/

    Things are mutating nicely thanks to Nuclear Radiation Contamination flying around the globe.. 🙁

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      "They" didn't get away with making H1N1 go pandemic as planned, so now "they" are going to try to do it again with Ebola. Does anyone every notice how each new crisis happens within a few months of the annual Bilderbergers meeting?

      Crisis, panic, solution. Next crisis, panic, solution.

  • Dick Shenary

    Stock – Does this say anything to you? – Top 100 Global Warming Denialist Groups Are ALL Funded By HUGE Corporations; via @AGreenRoad
    The problem with GW is it is an affect of global capitalism. The constant pursuit of growth and profits at the expense of the environment has lead to climate change and there will be no shortage of denial. Also no shortage of denial regarding the safety nuclear power.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Always follow the money..

  • Nick

    Today, 1,000s, if not 1,000,000s of souls will be marching for Climate Awareness, etc.

    How many of them will be calling for the abolishment of all things nuclear?

    Carbon is not the enemy. Toxic loading of the biosphere is.

    Humans need to put their energies towards reducing toxic loading of nuclear fission piles AND other envirotoxins.

    In a sense, I think more folks are waking up to the fact that global capitalism is the problem.

    But if you are for a reduced carbon footprint AND you support nuclear, you have no business marching for climate awareness, you are part of the
    problem.

    We really don't have the luxury to worry about climate change whilst we load the biosphere with ever more wayward atomic forces.

    We will be dead before we can get global warming under wraps.

    • Nick, we can go visit Africa and see who is dying from climate change. It's called perpetual drought in a once lush area. Or, we can take a boat to the islands that are now overrun with ocean water. How will those people and animals live without a home? If we wanted to, we could look at the floods in Sri Lanka and Bangladesh as each year they just keep getting deeper and longer from more moisture in the air as oceans evaporate to be carried upon the monsoons, while the water/land/heat exchange has become so intense that all the water dumps there and no longer carries to the dying people in Africa. Tell any one of those people that climate destabilization is not an issue. Fact is, climate destabilization or change or warming or whatever a person wishes to call it is not an issue for some people. They can ignore it because their technology or their location or their economy allows them to ignore it. There will be winners and losers. The winners are not likely to credit their good fortune to the theory of climate change.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, certainly everyone one currently alive on this planet today, will be dead before anything positive happens in any of these areas.

    The rich will always live better and they will expect it and demand more of it!

    They will always need and want more of everything!

    Bobby!
    What?
    Get out of my way!
    Why?
    I want that thing behind you over there! Move! Move now!
    Yes sir! Sorry Sir!

  • Nick

    For years I believed that humans had the capacity to reduce our tendency to foul our nest.

    Lately, I have come to the conclusion that our fouling of the nest has also
    screwed up our brain pans.

    On a quantum level, shared electrons in vital neuro (and other) hormones are being bumped off and new, nastier molecules result.

    GMI is here to stay. Expect nothing less.

    If you are not familiar with my patented phrase, that is Global Mass Insanity.

    Stress in organisms indicates something amiss.

    The earth right now is stressed.

    Yeah, folks will villify oil/coal/natural gas while silently moving stock
    options into nuclear vested interests.

    Like I said. GMI

  • Nick

    FD-NPP is a rip in space-time, growing with every tick of time.

    Atomic splitting results in vast amounts of energy that can only be explained by a disruption in the space-time matrix.

    FD-NPP is a toxic dangerous, unsolveable hell.

  • Dick Shenary

    Gee Nick – Aren't you being overly optimistic? I do like the concept of GMI and I need to think about it.

  • jackassrig

    I know this OT. “Don’t Simulate When…10 Rules for Determining when Simulation is Not Appropriate.” Jerry Banks and Randall R. Gibson

    1.The problem can be solved using “common sense analysis.”
    2.The problem can be solved analytically (Using a closed form).
    3.It’s easier to change or perform direct experiments on the real.
    4.The cost of the simulation exceeds possible savings.
    5.There aren’t enough resources for the project.
    6.There isn’t enough time for the model results to be useful.
    7.There is no data – not even estimates.
    8.The model can’t be verified or validated.
    9.Project expectations can’t be met.
    10.If system behavior is too complex, or can’t be defined.

    http://www.blueminegroup.com/aai/pdf/10_Rules_Determining.pdf

    There is discussion on each of the points. I think some of the models used to show how the dumping of all this toxic waste into the oceans and atmosphere will disperse is too complex. I think the models throw out there are to white wash tombstones. I think later on this cow pat FUKU is discharging into the oceans and atmosphere will be much worse than the models show now.

    • razzz razzz

      I think everyone is walking away from Daiichi and TEPCO pretending to be doing something because in reality nothing can be done or would end in a suicide mission.

      No one bothers to dig a hole in the sand next to the ocean and throw in a melted core or run a model of a totally free melted core next to the ocean because it so insane. Have to give the Germans some credit in getting published.

      The German study is good enough for an incomprehensible scenario at Daiichi just need to use the correct multiples to adjust for amounts of melted cores involved at Daiichi.
      Daiichi is so far the worse case scenario plus the unknowns of how much more radioactive inventory was or are being created if any parts of the melts have self reacted.

  • A rip in space time…Indeed… I included in one of my Sci Fi stories the concept of having to create an anti star on the other side of time in order to make an artificial star here in time. Disturbance of chaos on one side could cause dire effect in another dimension. Oh the paradoxes and perils of a third phase race…

    Oh the pissing in the wind of a zero phase race…

  • dunkilo

    TAINTED?? more like "nuke Pus PLAUGING Fuku" and the planet….sounds about right to me.. Nuke is the worst plague to face humankind.
    Move on …nothing to see here,sheeple

  • demise demise

    In North America our time is just about gone. From the East is Ebola, Islamic revolution and Russian aggression. From the West is China expansionism and the Japanese triple meltdown. Internally, we are leaderless, polarized, broke and demoralized. The Radiation poisoning is already here, but covered-up to preserve the vital tax flow. From the East, Ebola might escalate into the new black plague, which is already out of control. Either from the West of East or from Washington the end is near. Bless you all.

    • Angela_R

      demise, my daughter and family moved to the US last year. Her husband is American, originally from Texas. Next year another family member will go there on an exchange program. Me, I have to remain mute because my exasperated daughter exclaimed "I've heard about nuclear all my life; no more!" It was salary that had her turn down the position in Washington State, around one hundred miles from Hanford. The salary was better elsewhere. She had already refused a position in New Mexico, but not because of nuclear.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Some people must have seen the future…enjoy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. I think I see a trend here. Has anyone else noticed it? peace

  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. OK. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why the strontium 90 levels are decreasing in wells closest to the reactors? Other than that TEPCO is lying, of course. I just answered my own question. Nevermind. peace

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