Japan TV: “And now concerns are growing… a new source of leakage” at Fukushima; “The situation could become even more serious” — Groundwater Expert: “I doubt even experts could have imagined” this (VIDEO)

Published: February 11th, 2014 at 12:18 am ET
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Previous reports on this NHK program can be found here: [intlink id=”tv-fukushima-underground-dam-working-radiation-levels-exceeding-govt-limit-shore-tepco-official-flow-contaminated-water-ocean-causing-problems-quite-difficult-stop-video” type=”post”]{{empty}}[/intlink]

NHK, ‘Radioactive Water: Fukushima Daiichi’s Hidden Crisis‘ — Feb. 1, 2014 (25:00 in):

NHK: And now concerns are growing over possible leaks — from an area people had been worried about… The structure housing Reactor 1 is suspected to be a new source of leakage… The detection of tritium suggests that the other radioactive materials may eventually seep into the ocean, too. The Reactor 1 building is filled with 10,000 tons of highly radioactive water… If that’s the source of the leakage, the situation could become even more serious. Contaminated water could be flowing directly from the reactor building, not just from the trenches.

Shunsuke Uchida, expert on nuclear fuel: …If something happens and the water leaks, there’s little that can be done. […]

NHK: Professor Hiroyuki Tosaka… explored the flow of the radioactive water… The contaminated water flows to the left then spreads in an arc toward the ocean. If we superimpose Tepco’s data on tritium levels over this image, they match. The simulation suggests that the radioactive water might have traveled along a complex route and flowed into the sea.

Hiroyuki Tosaka, groundwater simulation expert: I doubt even experts could have imagined the contaminated water would move in such a way — at least I didn’t.

Tepco: […] There’s no single solution that can stop the leaks right away. If necessary we’ll take some steps to improve the soil and ground conditions, too. For the moment we’ll just have to dig more holes and check.

View NHK’s documentary here (at 25:00 in)

Published: February 11th, 2014 at 12:18 am ET
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124 comments to Japan TV: “And now concerns are growing… a new source of leakage” at Fukushima; “The situation could become even more serious” — Groundwater Expert: “I doubt even experts could have imagined” this (VIDEO)

  • charlie3

    It could become even more serious??? You don't say.
    Oh,dear! What will you tell us next, that you atomized hundreds of tons of plutonium into dust and sent it to us on the wind?
    That three roiling auna spew out strontium and plutonium into for Pacific Ocean for infinity?

  • charlie3

    three roiling suns

  • Sickputer

    Oh you certainly dropped in red tracer dye to track the flow? You know that could help differentiate the building water loss from the trenches. You think so? 🙂

    If the red dye makes a smiling pattern you will know you are safe. 😉

    • truthseek truthseek

      Good one Sickputer! Made me laugh (need that)

    • Ontological Ontological

      I don't think that is dye in that photo, never mentioned any in the video either. That is the COLOR of those ELEments. Cesium PINK Strontium RED. You will of course cruelly attack, call me names or worse if I am incorrect.

    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      Hi SP. And if I remember some of the posts from 2011 correctly, smiling takes radiation poisoning from very deadly to just a little inconvenient. Hope it makes a smiling pattern!

  • Arizonan Arizonan

    Has anyone seen any data at all about how long three corms could continue to contaminate the ocean if unchecked? I have heard everything from 60 to 160 to 24,000 years. Does anyone really know how long it could go on for? Any real data about this?? How many tons of highly radioactive liquid can flow out in that time?

  • Arizonan Arizonan

    How long????

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Arizonan, you may want to listen to this interview with Helen Caldicott from yesterday:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_CiEnJ4Wo
      "Helen says, at this point there is no "best case scenario" for Fukushima, just worsening degrees of horror because it's scientifically impossible to clean up what has already occurred. And with thousands of spent fuel rods and thousands more active rods still in the fuel pools of the damaged reactor buildings, the worst case scenario – if another major earthquake hits the area – is an ecological nightmare of biblical proportions for everyone living in the Northern hemisphere."

      • Socrates

        No way to stop it. We are one earthquake away from the pearly gates…

        The odds are that we are in a countdown then with rough sledding until the end. They want to build more reactors before the big one. I'll bet the earthquake happens before they finish building. This is insane.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Yes, I listened to it, but still have no good sense of how many years the corms will keep releasing radioactive material.

        • We Not They Finally

          It's never just the radiation releases in and of themselves. It's what it does to the Earth, and permanently. The ocean food supply to one-third of the world. The plankton oxygen for the ENTIRE world. Genetic mutations getting progressively worse through succeeding generations. Etc., etc.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Hate is filling my heart, reading this thread, watching Helen Caldicott's video.

        It must stop

        http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/toddrundgren/loveistheanswer.html

    • Sickputer

      Depends on the rate of leaching from the corium. Divide 273 tons of fissile fuel by a leaching amount per day and you might get some guesses within a few thousand years. Nobody has really experimented on such a large scale from melted cores so it's all up to mother natures cleansing action.

      I'd say the discharge water should be safer in about 3 million years. Just an eye blink of time for the planet. But not for mankind.

      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        Sickputer, "Depends on the rate of leaching from the corium. Divide 273 tons of fissile fuel by a leaching amount per day and you might get some guesses within a few thousand years."

        Leaching or leaching and fissioning both?

        True, there may be no way to completely clean up what has already occurred, but that 273 tons of fissile fuel and the earthquake zone seem like good enough reasons to spend the trillion dollars, to build the remote control gear, to dig up the coriums, and at least stop the madness.

        Of course, Tepco would gratefully come to this thread to wring its collective hands in hopeless despair, if only it could be assured that it wouldn't have pay for a proper cleanup.

        And the governments in question will say its too expensive, while spending trillions to prop up bankers through ZIRP, TARP, and QE. Then, they'll say its too difficult, while planning a trip to Mars. . .

        • Ontological Ontological

          We can only guess due to NO information whatsoever in 3 years.

        • …while at the same time, giving themselves (the 1%) raises while cutting programs and help for the poor..

          The rich/huge corporate farms and military industrial complex needs 'help' you know.. they cannot survive without that 'help', which is called fleecing the taxpayers for corporate 'entitlements', and welfare programs.

          All of these corporations are making record profits, but they need 'help' and cannot survive without it..

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        3 million years…..

    • GQR2

      Forever , in human terms. Infinity. there will be no safety for humans and all Carbon based life forms. Nuclear waste is forever. Nuclear waste will never be safe in any form ever. They can bury it, spray in the atmosphere, sink it in our precious oceans. They have shat all over the place.
      They never had a plan since its invisable,it was easy to hide. But not so much anymore. Hard to hide the illness,the die offs,food contamination.
      They green washed, brain washed, built made millions, put massive reactors near high risk places, no plans for evacuation No plans for water conservation above energy schemes.
      How does one evacuate millions of people ? You don't. They speed forward test,bomb,kill and lie about it.
      They continue. completely insanity.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Complete insanity, yes, but some among them seem to have no critical thinking skills at all. Some seem to really believe their own lies, the health physics textbooks that never mention internalized radionuclides, the slick reports from WHO announcing that the "health prospects in the Chernobyl region seem quite bright." It makes me want to choke. Insanity? Ignorance? Outright evil – not caring they are destroying the genome? They must not believe it, despite the science? I suppose complete insanity is the most logical explanation….overly exposed to their own creation perhaps.

    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      This is the First Man-Made (sic) ELE, and quite possibly the last, for some time anyway. So there is no need to ask "How long." If it's any consolation, we are witnessing an historical event.

  • combomelt combomelt

    red dye purple dye
    the waves and salt spray tingle
    take 2 tylenol

    • Q1988 Q1988

      The red dye is probably Rhodamine WT. A good choice as Rhodamine B was found out to be a carcinogen. It was used here as a tracer to detect a leak. Another type of tracer would have been a radioactive one, however these have to be use with extreme care and, I believe, government approval.
      Thelma and Louise have had there fun. There is nowhere to run and there '63 T bird has left the lip of the cliff. We know what happens next. "A Canticle for Leibowitz". Sorry for being negative.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Nuclear is ruining the Northern Hemisphere.

  • bo bo

    Thank you, TEPCO, for differentiating radionuclides by color dyes today.
    Now we know Cesium is 'Summer' and Strontium is definitely more 'Autumn'.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Another one on the move…Maibu real estate should drop like a rock soon as the back ground radiation readings climb. One goes up and the other goes down.. 🙁

    http://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/yolanda-foster-husband-david-foster-list-malibu-mansion-005000267-us-weekly.html

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Wow…the rats are leaving the sinking ship.

      • Loveistheonlyrationalact Loveistheonlyrationalact

        NBO..the rats are definitely leaving the ship..how many times have we heard in the last month…." I will not be seeking re election" from our glorious leaders. Time to start counting and listing.

      • Jebus Jebus

        Could become serious, rats, sinking ship, science…

        Chasing the Biggest Story on Earth
        ‘The Sixth Extinction’ Looks at Human Impact on the Environment

        He jokingly speculates that rats will eventually evolve to make tools, live in caves and sit around in the skin of other mammals — just like a certain primate we know about.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/science/the-sixth-extinction-looks-at-human-impact-on-the-environment.html?_r=1

        Wha, no Fuku?

        Sure glad I'm a cynical optimist and there is a legal system to "get 'er done"…

        Block party? Street dancing? Anyone?

        Naw, more nuclear, right?…

        • It could be rats, it could be cockroaches, it could be bacteria mutate and form something that eats humans for lunch and breakfast, all thanks to the nuclear industry.

          Or that lifeform that even space cannot kill, just gets much larger and hungrier, and starts eating humans.

          We do know for sure, radiation increases mutations, most or all of them negative. But maybe that depends on the viewpoint.

          After all, super flesh eating bacteria just have that much more flesh to eat. Today, they can kill a man and devour his innards in less than 48 hours.

          How much worse can it get?

        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          Jebus…the future inhabitants of earth?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUOd0KtWXrY

  • rogerthat

    These guys are funny. They talk about this hole or that hole, or this possible flow of contaminated water or that, or what they might do to slow the flow, or plug the leaks, as if there was some point to it all. As if something can be done. From Tepco: ''There’s no single solution that can stop the leaks right away. If necessary we’ll take some steps to improve the soil and ground conditions, too. For the moment we’ll just have to dig more holes and check.''
    Like little clockwork toys. Their masters come along every night and wind them up, and then off they go the next day, babbling the same old nonsense, doing nothing, round and round in ever-diminishing circles. The Fukushima drama has been playing for 1000 days, soon it will go to Broadway. Better than The Mikado even, roll up, roll up, pay your money for the last great show on earth.

    • We Not They Finally

      Not funny. Pretty pathetic.

    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

      Well, I, for one, am thankful for their efforts. Every extra day we get that we can still hug our kids, our pets, our loved ones, that we can say hello to friends before we realize there's something we'd better get the doctor to check out…well, it's all a gift at this point, isn't it?

      If those pathetic attempts you speak of buy an extra day, a extra month, or even 6 months, I'm thankful. Being sick and scared totally sucks.

    • Just get some giant tampons, for Go)#s sake.

      About 8 feet around and 40 feet long should do it.

  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    Even more serious than an Extinction Level Event? huh

  • Sol Man

    too soon we are free
    many loved money most
    eternity dream

  • amberlight amberlight

    Good idea, Tepco. Keep digging them holes… and when they are wide enough and deep enough, all you nuke-promoting execs can jump right in and we'll 'doze that radioactive earth on top of the slimy lot of you. (Don't forget to invite Abe to join in on the fun.)

  • Seldomheardabout Seldomheardabout

    We are only lost when hope is lost.
    We are here to think until the ship sinks.
    And if we are doomed, we can be unbound and try anything.
    Look at what we have endured as humans.
    Please don't give it all away with a sigh.

    • zogerke zogerke

      we are lost when cancer and immune illness so consume our life and energy that there is none left over for anything. while hungry people are dangerous politically, cancer ridden sick people do not generally rise up and demand changes- we fight the health systems and expire. we are lost when we are sickened the most. i don't see loss of hope as loss of us. i see sickness that way. even with loss of hope one can function and battle to do good.

    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      we're the few, Seldomheardabout, that aren't going with a sigh…

  • We Not They Finally

    How interesting that NHK (which I understand to be like Japanese national television)keeps reporting on this ANYWAY, whatever draconian censorship has been put into play. They under-report, they've switched out management, they overlook, they mislead, they sanitize. But they still continue to REPORT. And with the whole nation gradually becoming ILL, I imagine that in some, whatever capacity, they will continue to report.

    • GQR2

      Maybe they count on people being chronically confused,misinformed and unaware of how deadly and completely devastating to health and DNA radiation is, even in low amounts. What that might indicate is an even more aggressive campaign of minimization and lies ? i agree about the insufferable nature of things. Hope to me seems like a fool's errand that may in fact hinder coping constructively are realistically with this slow motion ELE.

    • Q1988 Q1988

      …and now a word from our sponsor…
      I met a couple from GR Michigan on a trip to Mexico last week. In there 60's and seemed connected with events. Good health, middle class but totally disconnected with everything not reported by CNN. Had never heard of Fukushima or anything happening in the Pacific Ocean.
      I am not optimistic about the future of MK.

  • GQR2

    * and ..that was supposed to be and, not are

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A mock up of a leak..
    Neato..

    A real explosion..

    JAPAN NUCLEAR REACTOR 1 EXPLOSION

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV8ePLCLbMs

    Seems that would imply severe structural damage.
    (Also seems to that the explosion was rather low to the ground.. indicating severe substructure damage…)
    The damage to unit one was severe enough to be covered with a tent.
    The potential areas for leakage..all down to a leak or two?

    Jiji: Highly radioactive groundwater now flowing under Unit 1 — Levels skyrocket since last test, now 1,000s of times higher — 8 locations hit record in recent days at Fukushima Daiichi
    Jan 25 2014

    "TEPCO has explained that the groundwater may have been contaminated by highly radioactive water in underground cable tunnels of the No. 2 and 3 reactors […] however, 5,600 becquerels of radioactive tritium per liter was detected in groundwater taken on Sunday from an observation well near the turbine building of the No. 1 reactor."
    (note unit 4 has been excluded.)

    Jan 25 2014

    http://enenews.com/jiji-highly-radioactive-groundwater-now-flowing-under-fukushima-unit-1-levels-skyrocket-since-last-test-now-1000s-of-times-higher-8-locations-hit-record-in-recent-days

    Unit 1 Fukushima Torus Robot Inspection November 2013 Part 1
    Nov 16 2014..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqCD30NTMow

    Flowing ground water.. and 'sparkles'.
    (The sickest show on earth)

    The groundwater is flowing through the fractured substructures of the plant.

  • stellarblue51

    HEADLINES!: UNITED NATIONS DECLARES MELTDOWNS AT FUKUSHIMA A WHOLE WORLD CATASTROPHE!.. 62 foreign countries now on their way to Japan to address the disaster! This is the headlines we would like to see. Apparently, it is not going to happen. The world unfortunately, continues to be poisoned.

    • UN headlines; TEPCO doing 'good job'. via IAEA.

      They also recommend dumping ALL water in storage tanks into Pacific, and say this is 'legal'.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      UN headlines: We are gonna crack down on pedophile abusers in the church now! How about that Justin Bieber? Hey what about O.J.? Man it sure is cold outside! How about those Seahawks, oh my.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    And then the second mockup..

    Tritium detected in the trench(es) built from the tanks to the sea?

    [Photo] Leaking tank drain goes to outside of Fukushima plant port
    Sept 2 2013

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/09/photo-leaking-tank-drain-goes-to-outside-of-fukushima-plant-port/

    • They did manage to concrete over the drains and channels so that no one can 'see' the water going into the ocean..

      No one is allowed to test the ocean for radiation..

      Neat formula for keeping secrets hidden away and commit genocide all at the same time.

  • Nick

    Not exactly OT….

    Last night I saw a GE TV ad during Sochi.

    Weird.

    Made me sick to my stomach.

    It was like the advertisers were heeding the call of the industry to subtly make us be okay with morphing forms.

    Experts are a misnomer if even they can't imagine how water goes from point A to point B.

    You don';t remove 100 feet of cliff by the sea and expect water to stay away from gravity's embrace above or next to the sea.

    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

      "It was like the advertisers were heeding the call of the industry to subtly make us be okay with morphing forms."

      Advertisers don't create ads of their own volition. They're one of many agencies that won a bid on a contract although some client/agency relationships go on for decades, and megacorps such as GE have multiple agencies for different areas of business. Clients (in this case GE) have total sign off on what is created and often see it and shape it through feed back multiple times prior to the finished product. Directors and account execs at this level are very well paid. It is a business where people do what the client asks and don't get involved with the repercussions other than those to the agency's bottom line. It has been this way for almost 100 years. Again, I will refer to Wikipedia's entry on Edward Bernays.

      • Ontological Ontological

        Thank you. At least a few people out here are capable of independent thought.

        • GQR2

          Ontological, noticed the perched lands. They gave a vision of barren landscapes as if it was the new normal or making it "trendy" like that nutf*ckery that has become the Burning Man, torture art tour.camp out in gas masks in the wind and dust.

          Our culture is bankrupt and unhinged. All media but for very little, all mass media is manufacturing culture. And now there is no limit to their pure propaganda. All laws regarding truthfulness have been rescinded. Just like Congressional insider trading i might add.

          • Ontological Ontological

            They make any "good" of all there evil, that they can no matter how disgusting it looks to us. To them it's a huge pile of cash.

      • Nevertheless, those who participate in mind control through advertising are complicit in the disease called nuke, and they also will have a special place in hell prepared for them.

        "just following orders" don't cut it.

        kill nuke now

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    "If necessary we will take some steps"……..
    It has been necessary for 3 FUKUN years.
    STEPS? Tepco. you have done nothing but trip, stumble, and fall flat on your lying,pathetic,ignorant,sickly looking faces!!!
    The masses will wake when the bullets start flying……that is the only time they pay attention.
    If R1 released all the Pu I guess R3 is ???????????? They take us for fools?
    THANKYOU ADMIN FOR YOUR PASSION TO FULLY EXPOSE LIARS!!

  • bluetick

    Personally I think we are all just better off looking for a new inhabitable planet…plutonium 238 is everywhere.. if fukushima does not get you then the following

    trashed out oceans with tooooooooo much plastic to describe along with so much else/ chem included…

    Weather modification via geoengineering…

    water not fit to drink 40% lakes and river here in the US

    food is contaminated

    DU all over middle east and yes wind picks it up and move it around the world slowly but absolutely. It will never be habitable again really no joke its a dead zone now…

    way too many people on this planet.

    too many nuc plants

    Methane gases being released at unbelievable rates…

    aquifers almost dry

    did I mention TOOOO many people to supply the wanted services i.e. electricity, car,big house,cell phone,climate control via air /heat.

    attitude of who cares let the grand kids worry about it I wont be here…

    there is absolutely NO way to stop this train its going over the broken bridge into the water..If you think we can fix even a portion your nuts (outside of a huge depopulation of people). Maybe if you can dig in deep into a jungle somewhere you might make it…

    The last person on earth will ask about earnings for the quarter before taking the last breath.

    • john dpugh

      I personally think , people talking about moving to another planet do not know what they are talking about ,, it s not quite like going to hawai for holiday you know . We have nowhere to go .

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      "Maybe if you can dig in deep into a jungle somewhere you might make it…"

      Watch out for poison ivy and bananas!!

  • mairs mairs

    Dateline 2100, Bulgarian officials say that the massive Kozloduy nuclear power plant fire has now been contained. "There is no immediate danger to citizens" said Bulgarian Minister of Energy, Dr. Nikolas Tanev, yesterday. "No worse than eating a banana. Or maybe 10,000 bananas per person. We have seen no increase in radiation over the normal background reading of 490 CPM."

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    bluetick you nailed it… so many disgusting man made variables coming together at once.
    The methane soooo not talked about.
    Lets no forget about the human vs. human carnage to be played out in the not so distant future.
    I will miss this beautiful sphere and her abiding creatures.

  • Thanksforplaying

    Roger that, I get ur post, please keep contributing. Savage irony works for some of us but not others. We are all a bit wounded round here, to massively understate with savage irony

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    could it be that Japan's fictional creation grew from a primal "knowing" of the future that was their fate?

  • Nothing like a victim recreating their abuse, and then passing it on to others..

    Kar ma

  • I picked up a prescription yesterday. My co-pay was $17. The real price the insurance company is charging is not shown anywhere, but I saw $630 on the computer screen as she typed.

    Herein lies the problem. Pure freaking insanity of Big Pharma, Big Med.

    Out health insurance should be around $100 per month. Not $400 to $700. What a joke.

    • Our health insurance should be free, because plants and food are medicine. They do not charge us to grow and provide oxygen and food to eat..

      Maybe they should charge us, before they agree to grow.

      Maybe then we would value them more.

    • GQR2

      Its financial insanity. And what will happen when people just run out. Medical bankruptcy laws were never addressed and a life destroying as ever. This cynical insurance scheme needs to be ended its robbery. Not once is there a discussion about the fact every person at some time will need medical care and its in society's best interest to see that they get it. From a public health stand point at the very least. Its not a nanny state its common sense. Basic Human need medical care of some kind at some point. The system cannot be trusted. A sacred trust if you will, broken.

      Instead these miscreants of every side of the political parties both of them Give away ALL to insurance profits. Not a bit of care. Only insurance. The deductibles are an insult to math and an assualt on the purchaser. The parts of the system that weren't broke got broke. I research this field. Makes me avoid the medical field now completely. Sad state of affairs.

      • Ontological Ontological

        Agreed, gone beyond money now tho, it's all about power. Slow multi ELEment atmospheric suffocation is more subtle than bombs. Less future fees/penalties that way. Who can you sue for inhaling a fuel flea in the wind? Desperate, tumor ridden people do not normally think of what the cause may have been, only the bright and shinny cure the "new" industry to save us from the evils of Cancer offer.
        I am left with a half finished "medical" jaw replacement due to the fact my "dental" only pays 2500 a year. Will need at least 60k out of pocket to finish, yeah right! A sign language course will be cheaper I guess.