Japan TV: ‘Problem on their hands’ at Fukushima, constant flow of water pouring from foot-wide leak at Reactor 3; “They don’t know where water it’s coming from” — WSJ: Radiation level spikes 60-fold in seconds nearby (VIDEO)

Published: January 18th, 2014 at 10:41 pm ET
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Wall St. Journal, Jan. 17, 2014: As the bus carrying reporters [taking part in a media tour on Jan. 15] drove past by unit 3 toward units 1 and 2, readings on a dosimeter carried by an employee of plant operator [Tepco] spiked at over 600 microsieverts per hour, compared with a reading of around 10 microsieverts just seconds earlier. Reactors 1-3 are so highly contaminated that no one, even in a protective suit, can enter the buildings. That means almost all the cleanup work at the three units will have to be undertaken by remote-controlled robots.

NHK Newsline (Transcript), Jan. 18, 2014: The people in charge of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant have another problem on their hands. They say they found water pouring into a drain inside a reactor building. Officials at [Tepco] say they don’t know where the water is coming from and their not sure how much radioactivity it contains.

NHK, Jan. 18, 2014: Water leak found inside Fukushima reactor building […] spotted on the first floor of the reactor building on Saturday by a camera […] the water flow was about 30-centimeters wide [11.8 inches] and constant. TEPCO added that the water is likely flowing toward the building’s basement where a large amount of radioactive water has accumulated. TEPCO says that inside the reactor building there is water for cooling melted fuel and water in the spent fuel storage pool. It says rain water may have entered the damaged building. TEPCO is trying to find out the source of the leaking water by analyzing footage […] radiation levels are too high for workers to approach the site.

Kyodo News, Jan. 18, 2014: Water leakage found inside No. 3 reactor of Fukushima plant: TEPCO […] Water that could contain radioactive material has been pouring [from a] 30-centimeter wide water leak […] It said the water had not leaked outside the building. TEPCO has been pouring cooling water on the No. 1 to 3 reactors to cool melted fuel, and water has been seen leaking through damaged parts of the No. 3 reactor’s containment vessel. […]

Watch NHK’s broadcast hereTepco’s video of leak here

Published: January 18th, 2014 at 10:41 pm ET
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159 comments to Japan TV: ‘Problem on their hands’ at Fukushima, constant flow of water pouring from foot-wide leak at Reactor 3; “They don’t know where water it’s coming from” — WSJ: Radiation level spikes 60-fold in seconds nearby (VIDEO)

    • norbu norbu

      Yes a good pic from 2012. "Water that could contain radioactive material has been pouring [from a] 30-centimeter wide water leak […] It said the water had not leaked outside the building" Could contain Radioactive materials? Really? Wow thats a no brain'er. 600 microsieverts per hour Duh… Just grad a large cork and some duct tape..[sarc]
      N

    • norbu norbu

      Thanks for link to pic.
      N

    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      Remind me again what the green coloring is on the sides of the exterior walls? Shine?

    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      Can someone explain why they covered the damaged #3 with another building?

    • Starbird Starbird

      This is the best photo yet showing the source of the major explosion in R3 to have been not from the reactor but from the lower 4th floor, NW corner. The massive debris thrown up in the explosion was the concrete from the 5th floor. The photo clearly shows the roof framework to be intact over the reactor, which is impossible if it were the source of the explosion.

        • Starbird Starbird

          Time will tell…

        • Starbird Starbird

          Jebus, the article you linked is incorrect. it states; "I went back to the site with the aerial photos and confirmed that the third floor was pretty much entirely
          obliterated in the explosion. The spent fuel pool is gone… see for yourself"

          This is nonsense.The photo clearly shows steam emerging from the intact sfp. The portion that "was entirely obliterated" was the NW corner, which he obviously incorrectly THOUGHT was the location of the sfp.

          • Jebus Jebus

            You are welcome to your thoughts on the matter. That is your right. I believe what my own eyes tell me by watching the many videos of #3 reactor ejecting it's contents into this planets ecosystem. MOX fuel was ejected from the explosion of reactor #3. Plutonium was ejected from the explosion of reactor #3. Believe what you want to. It really doesn't matter at this point in this ongoing Fukuskima disaster.
            Time will tell?
            I care not to comment about it again in this thread…

            • Starbird Starbird

              Jebus, if you would use your eyes to look more closely at the explosion – best in slow motion –
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGhOW3DLlow (1:31 into video)
              you would see that there were TWO explosions at R3. the first was the yellow burst over the sfp – the south end of the building. The second was the massive explosion in the NW end that blew the reactor floor above it hundreds of meters into the air – the debris you see falling down.

            • Starbird Starbird

              No one questions that Plutonium was ejected by the explosion – but it is important to discover WHAT exploded. And where.
              The early story went out that it was the reactor. Careful examination reveals that to be incorrect.
              Time will tell… The TRUTH will come out.
              Looking at the facts of the explosion, my best guess – and it's only a guess, so don't flame me – is;

              Weapons grade fuel in the equipment pool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons-grade
              It melted first and ate through the bottom of the equip. pool into the floor below.
              Spread out, it was more vulnerable to a shock.
              The first,smaller explosion over the sfp was the 'shock trigger' that ignited it, and it blew the floor above, and the NW wall away.

              Expert opinion on this is needed.

              • harengus_acidophilus

                What kind of game are you playing?

                "Weapons grade fuel" sounds really dangerous, but -besides the stupidity of burning MOX- it is less dangerous as reactor grade.
                Why? A chain reaction is better "controlable" with wg-MOX than it is with rg-MOX due to the "spontaneous fisson rate" of the heavier isotopes of Pu.

                Nice try …

                h.

                • Starbird Starbird

                  Weapons grade fuel, material, whatever you want to call it. Highly enriched weapon making 'stuff' http://americanfreepress.net/?p=969
                  They had to store it somewhere, and the equip. pool would be a good place.
                  Who knows? I said it was a guess.
                  I'm not 'trying' anything – the facts are the NW corner of the building is GONE. Something exploded upward and blew it skyhigh – if you have a better explanation, I'm all ears. If all you can do is abuse and insult someone for offering a guess then you bring nothing to the discussion except bad attitude.

    • weeman

      I posted this yesterday sorry to repeat but I feel it is worthy of a second post.

      I like to use the example of the Titanic, according to mr. Ballard the actual size of hole in titanic was 1.4 sq meters over the length off breech in hull, the ship sunk in 2 hours and 40 minutes and at least 36,000 tonnes of water entered the ship in that time.
      Who know the actual amount that is flowing into the ocean from Fukushima a boat load more than 300 tonnes a day and remember they built a coffer dam and water is close to surface, so it is under pressure?

    • dicko

      Great picture you posted. With that green tint on the walls, it looks like a copper solution has poured over it. Anybody got any ideas?

      The otherpoint I would like to make, is how the concrete fell apart. If you look at exploded building from bomb, nightly news from Iraq etc, the concrete in in large blocks held together by reo bar.
      On the Reactor #3 $ #4, the concrete has been removed from the reo bar, without damaging the steel. All the steel reinforcement is just laying againt the walls as thought he concrete just scattered and fell off.

      I find it strange there has never been any discussion about the concrete and how it shattered. Is it to do with the radiation? Heat? Type of explosion? I don't know. all I know is, it is not normal.
      Any ideas?

      • Starbird Starbird

        The green tint is a resin they sprayed to hold down radioactive dust. http://voiceofrussia.com/2011/04/01/48318662/
        Yes, it is very strange how no one talks about the concrete damage in R3, and what it shows about the source point of the major explosion.

        • dicko

          Starbird,

          You are correct, that may explain the green stain. Thanks for the link.

          Now the concrete. Why did it crumble without breaking the steel reinforcement?
          To me there is as big a mystory as to the lack of discussion of the subject as there is to the cause of the crumbling. The crumbling has been in plain sight since R3 & R4 blew up.

          • Starbird Starbird

            The areas where the concrete blew away and left the rebar intact were thin panels of concrete between the massive 6' thick columns. They were more distant from the source point of the explosion in the NW corner.The panels AND their supporting rebar along with the 6'columns in the NW corner were "entirely obliterated".

            • dicko

              If I had to make a guess, and a guess it is because I don't know if the physics will hold up, is the reo bar heated and expanded much faster than the concrete and craked the concrete from the inside, peeling it from the reo bar. The hot reo bar then just flopped over under its own weight.
              You are correct the thin wall show the biggest effect, but if you look at the pillar in the NE corner, you will see how the concrete has just peeled itself away, leaving the reo bar still in the main part of the piller.

      • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

        The green may be all the melted copper piping that was in the building.

        Or maybe it was from the spent fuel rods.

        Or maybe a cleaning fluid TEPCO used to try and clean it.

      • razzz razzz

        The concrete walls section that were blown out are actually lightweight panels made to separate from the building. It is not surprising they disintegrated and only left behind the superstructures. Not counting the roofs which where also lightweight.

        The idea that the building itself is a secondary containment (sealed) and only meant to hold lite pressure or lite negative pressure to monitor for leaks from the pools or reactors, doesn't qualify them to contain a meltdown. In fact the building is meant to sacrifice itself to avoid all out damage to the reactor and primary containment shell. Didn't seem to work for Unit 1 or 3. Unit 2 stands but as radioactive as 1&3. 1,2&3 all ended with no containment for the melts, they move freely with the elements with no end in sight.

        Signs of heat at Unit 3 where some of the metal roof tresses appeared as spaghetti is still open to debate. Steam explosion? Criticality? If TEPCO knows why, they are not saying.

        Units 1&4 look mostly like hydrogen explosions.

        • weeman

          The oringinal design their was concrete panels that were supposed to open in this senario to allow the hydrogen to disparate but tepco in their great wisdom decided to weld then shut, why during storms they blew opened and that made people nervious, pure dead brilliant, don't you agree.

          • razzz razzz

            Yes, sometimes I forget the obvious. Yes, the panel were made to open and equalized pressure with the occasional passing tornado or some other disturbance.

            More to the point, Mark I containment are a flawed design that is to small to hold a meltdown offgassing plus the lid seal 'O' rings easily leak at low overpressure levels.

            What was it in the 50 or 60's? Three designers quit when GE would not acknowledge the flaws as inherently risky in the initial designing stages. Went on to become anti-nuke persons.

  • retali8 retali8

    out of control, nobody on earth knows how to put out these fires.. nobody can ever enter the buildings to make appropriate repairs, robots malfunction as the rad levels are so high, its all fuku'd, nuclear industry is criminal,

    Video for Fuku severity to be understood by new users coming to enenews; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KNq-PtJZ4

    first hand nuclear nightmare from a japanese point of view; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlWslcjHlPo

    no matter where you are, remember a piece of Fuk-U-shima is everywhere!
    check this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDzujD-VfJ4

  • jec jec

    The webcam blog here, saw workers on top of one of those three reactors…what gives? Because:
    " Reactors 1-3 are so highly contaminated that no one, even in a protective suit, can enter the buildings. That means almost all the cleanup work at the three units will have to be undertaken by remote-controlled robots".
    Guess TEPCO uses homeless to do this work??…no audit trail..
    It was said by TEPCO workers were/are in Reactor 3 cleaning out the debris..and if the above report is correct..they certainly should NOT have even been near the building!!

    • norbu norbu

      Yes jec I have seen them on web cam, terrible crimes they have committed.
      N

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Homeless in our own country are being used , look at the gov buying radiated seafood and giving it to food banks , they are criminalizing homelessness in many states , a few years ago in Colorado a dinner was served with bad turkeys donated 250 got violently ill within a half hour ,where is the outrage

      • Sam Sam

        Food Banks in communities serve low income
        citizens in all situations from Churches, Halfway
        Houses, Group Homes, etc…., not just "homeless."
        Kind of like the Japanese distributing the nuclear
        waste around the country and burning it-equal
        opportunity destroyer. Someone out to go the
        Foodbanks and test this fish with scintillation
        equipment like the Sam 940.

        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Sam if I had a monitor I would be all over it , i work with the homeless community .
          I want to be proactive and take a page from the antimonsanto groups and demand an accurate count of the rads in our food supply , it will be a grassroots effort that I would like to see be picked up around the country as the woods hole gang are bring this to msm it's a good blast off. I am a lifetime activist with my hands in many things but this is the game changer of all game changers . Any suggestions are appreciated . I have a father who has a company with DIY kits on all kinds of electrical stuff . I am not talking to him . If anyone wants the link get in touch with me . I priced plans for seven dollars . He has kits too …before anyone accuses me of attempting to sell things your wrong about me

          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            Fora matter of fact I think some of you that are hobbiest know of his company , all kinds of cool stuff tesla sham radios I grew up with this stuff sorry off topic but need a monitor . Anyone in the boston area want to let me borrow one for a few days I'll record and post videos of my going to whole foods ect . We gotta have people start doing this work

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        "where is the outrage"

        Where indeed?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI

        Just wait till the food is scarce.

        People will eat anything…

        .

        • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

          Hello James, I hope this quick reply to your post finds you well. You've posted a good question/point! The answer can be found by reading between the lines of the US gov./CDC "Zombie plague" BS campaign. "Zombies" are not the "walking dead",but IMO they are ALL of US who will be hungry,desperate & turning to robbery.home invasion,murder & even cannibalism for food & necessities!!~And the merciful govt. had the foresight to buy up all of the existing stocks of .40 caliber pistol ammo just as 311 began to unfold!! How generous of them to let us eat the lead they bought with all of us in mind with our tax dollars! They'll probably use whoever is still viable as part of their forced labor pool to dig their own graves too??!! I'm sure the nukist state of IL is one of those with a law(s) against being homeless-I'll let you all know next month…"if" I can,that is(?)!! 🙁 TAKE CARE

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          People will be eating each other! Yummy! 🙂

        • GOM GOM

          Hey James. There are few who know about the food situation.. Shh..

    • TooExpensiveToMatter

      RE Homeless doing work

      There's organized crime involved.

      This points to the the thing that makes all the arguments of the nuclear "experts" effectively meaningless.

      Nuclear reactors are run by PEOPLE and people (especially large groups of people in corporations, governments and other organizations) are subject to ignorance, mistakes, corner-cutting, greed, corruption, organized crime etc (in the planning, building, operating and decommissioning of nuclear plants and handling of the waste)which means that even in the absence of a M9 earthquake and a 14m tsunami wave, all the "theoretical" calculations about risk (probability of meltdown, etc) are fatally flawed.

      Just before the TMI meltdown, which was the result of human error(as was Chernobyl), Nobel prize winning nuclear physicist Hans Bethe made a comment that the chance of a meltdown at a nuclear reactor was so small as to be negligible. Essentially nothing to worry about.

      I never forgot because I was at Cornell studying physics at the time and very shortly thereafter TMI occurred and it made Bethe's comment seem almost comical.

      Bethe was a brilliant physicist and there is no treason to think that he did not honestly believe what he was saying.

      He was also very theoretical and like many theoretical physicists, completely out of touch with practical matters, ie, with the REAL world.

      Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal "theoretical" world that exists only in the mind of nuclear…

  • So they don't know where its leaking FROM, but they know it's NOT leaking out of the building. Mkay.

    Expect over time, and as they attempt to get into reactor buildings 1 2 3 – they will find dozens if not HUNDREDS of other little 'surprises' like this.

    • shockwave shockwave

      According to what socref said, I think it's highly probable Tepco has been using sea water (35 Cl) to cool the fuel for 3 years, because it' is the "cheapest" way.

      That's why the leak has never been stopped. Tepco pours the sea water into the reactors. I don't buy "undergroud river" talks. That will never reach 300+ tons leak per day.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Why do you not buy the "under ground river" talk? On a river bed is where the reactors were built?

        • shockwave shockwave

          River bed is not equal to river. I think underground water moves very slow, unless there is space like a hole or a crack something. It also need a water source to leak that much(I dont see any near Fuke).

          300+ ton per day plus vaporized, that is almost 4+ kg water per sec. I don't see my tap water can reach 1 kg/s when it is turned on max, which will definitely form a small stream when leaking.

          There is ground water under fuku, but they still follow the pressure rule. The only source is the water pouring into the fuel pit.

      • zogerke zogerke

        @shockwave, i just think about the stuff i learned in early earth science classes about the water cycle, how rain and melt run off from mountains travels to the sea via ground flow, and just below surface groundwater flow, via percolating into underground aquifers and that flow..etc. that is why it seems credible to me that groundwater and maybe even aquifer flow is passing the coriums or fuel particles and other contamination sources and getting into the water. source of ocean contamination could include sea water to cool the junk there as well, who knows. it all seems possible and likely.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Well this link says they exist (underground rivers) everywhere.. 🙁
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subterranean_river

          I would think a volcanic island would be littered with them since it's full of crisscrossing fault lines! 🙁

          Absolutely the (Worst Place/Location) in the world to ever build a Nuclear Power Plant! These people should all be locked up in jail! 🙁

        • shockwave shockwave

          I konw what mean. See my post above. I don't think underground water under fuku can reach that much of flux. A long beach, maybe. 3 or 4 tiny reactors, no!

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Well based on no knowledge of the cores or where they are located then it's possible that a river flows directly over parts of them directly into the ocean several miles out into/under the ocean. Readings on site would not reflect such a deluge entering the ocean farther out to sea. Anything is possible when you build on top of an ancient river bed and on an Island that has known/new fissures throughout the area from earthquake activity. 🙁

            I doubt the Japanese would allow any further investigations in such matters. To a Nuclear Engineer deep in dodo, this would be the best of news, since out of sight is out of mind. 🙂 You can also downplay the severity of the overall radioactive death spiral released into the surrounding environment/biosphere. I trust no one in such matters. 🙁

            We are dealing with a "sitting spewing death star" that can never be extinguished and with spewing Radiation Contamination that can never be reeled back in safely.

            This bleeding sore will bleed for an eternity based on our very short life spans.

    • vicky13 vicky13

      I don't think that looks like a "leak". It looks more like a stream,, it has a current to it.

  • Socrates

    What a horrible tragedy is unfolding at Fukushima…

    Maybe just seeing the many things that can go wrong, and seeing the magnitude of the consequences, will finally convince arrogant nuclear types that they are not God. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

    If people who underestimate risks to public health and future generations as being diabolical. Nobody can ever convince me of their bona fides. No one ever could. Hiding under my desk as a child for their duck and Co er and being downwind in Nevada as a child did not impress me. Is this really the best that the human race has to offer future generations? Or are we captive to a malevolent group of power-mad people who misuse their power? These are the questions that must be asked.

    Just as amazingly, most people are totally unaware of this problem.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "What a horrible tragedy is unfolding at Fukushima…"

      Hey, Soc.

      The easiest sentence to sum it all up. No more need be said.

      A further dimensional aspect to this is, the horrid and dishonorable way the media pretends to report the real news. Watching the news clip on nhk reminds us all how corrupted and much a part of the lies and scam they have been since the start.

      No one can take seriously the reports in a Nazi-fascist japanese MEDIA any more. The are only allowed to lie. The world can not accept, or trust this horrible disgraceful dishonorable disingenuous organization any more at all. NO! They are part of the problem, not the answer.

      NHK IS JUST DISGUSTING!

      .

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Socrates I am starting to believe this is what our world is now…look at all the people who use apple products knowing that workers there are jumping off the roof of the factory committing suicide because of terrible working conditions, and being locked in until they make their quota.

    No one cares, people don't want to know anything or care about anything unless they are directly effected. They will happily stayed glued to their TV and their iphones……without a care in the world. IMO :-/

  • shamwow shamwow

    The news is getting worse and worse. Full meltdowns. Maybe the water flows are good because otherwise the reactors would have blown more than they already have.

    Seems like we have already said everything that can be said. Just waiting for the end game.

    Hugo Chavez said that we are treating the earth as if we had another place to go to. How true but unfortunately we don't.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Ya, right. More downplaying propaganda.

    There may be a one foot wide hole at the bottom.

    Does it really matter when the top blew off, sending plutonium MOX fuel, in nanoparticle size, around the planet?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbmPyMxu0Y

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    NUCLEAR PLANTS (( NOT MEANT TO BE ))

    World is witnessing one plant taking out countries and oceans because there's no procedure to deal with meltdowns.

    There never was.

  • GQR2

    enenews.com/big-problem-groundwater-rising-rising-rising-fukushima-longer-be-stopped-getting-ocean-worse-buildings-mushy-land-audio

    It won't be long before it sinks into the sea.
    This is unbelievable the video looks innocuous if you don't comprehend the situation.
    Leaking all day all night like a giant sieve. Water rushes through underground to the tune of 400 tons a day. (that seems low) and rises and falls with the sea tides.

    • utahruss utahruss

      GQR2 thank you for that comment.

      How many gallons are in 400 tons of water? I did a little explanation but used 300 tons as that was the figure in the article I was referencing

      http://fukushimatruths.freeforums.net/thread/411/gallons-water-tons-released-daily

      Russ Jensen

      • GQR2

        That is a great link Russ that you, the forum, looks very good too. Book mark that one for sure. Mass Volume its big, Dear pi is in there too.
        it's something to imagine especially when the rains run down the mountain side, meet the tides.
        oh boy howdy !
        – Katy bar the door !

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Just joined thank you

      • Socrates

        Very informative link. Thank you.

      • retali8 retali8

        10,354.594 gallons + of highly contaminated water going into the Pacific daily , absolutely incredible, it's as if they are trying there hardest to finish the Pacific off and sadly all oceans are connected, no wonder Pacific sea life is dying, wow omg

      • harengus_acidophilus

        You aren't able to use a calculator?

        "How many gallons are in 400 tons of water?"
        1 (metric) ton = 1000 kg = 1000 l (standard conditions)
        1 US-gallon = 3.785 411 784 l
        1 Imp.-gallon = 4.54609 l

        What you can do for your own … you should do!
        If you are able to post in this forum, why you
        can't use a search engine to get the numbers?

        h.

        • Ontological Ontological

          H-A Thanks for pointing this out, I had noticed, and hoped someone would. This is the way things get transmitted wrong. TEPCO is good at it.
          The conversion is : 8.34 pounds per US gallon divided into 2200 lbs. (metric ton in pounds) equals 236.789 gallons. Times 400 answer 105,515.59 gallons (US). or 9.998 pounds (imperial gallon) to make 88088.88 imperial gallons a day. At least. I did an honest educated guess of average run off as to rainfall, and added what they claim was going in by hoses. The Dimensions of an Olympic Size Swimming Pool is approximately 164ft x 82ft Surface area = 13,454.72 sq ft Volume = 88,263 cu ft = 660,253.09 US gallons. So average is 1.3 Olympic pools of US gallons a week of contaminated water. Small maybe, deadly indeed. The ides of March will make 1.3 x 52 = 279 x 3 = 811+ OP worth of screaming HOT water over 3 years. Buckminster Fuller's beach ball blizzard pool party. Watch out for the tiny black beach balls, the refreshment, and do NOT get in the pool! Please correct/clarify if wrong. And has this point ever been made so far?

          • Ontological Ontological

            How easy this is to screw up that's 1.3×52= 67.6 x 3= 202.8 total.

            • Shaker1

              Ontological, I think the point is that when put into perspective, the amount they might publicly claim is ludicrous on its face. I would love to see their actual formulas/calculations, though, just for grins.

              In mine I used 2000lb/t, and 8.2 for water weight. A gallon is 231 in3. If metric tons, I could have been off by 80,000 lbs in 400t, certainly not a negligable number.

          • harengus_acidophilus

            This legacy units are crap!

            "8.34 pounds per US gallon divided into 2200 lbs.
            (metric ton in pounds) equals 236.789 gallons"

            What's this? Want it complicated?
            What' the use of going over "lbs."?
            1 metric ton = 1000 [l]
            1 US gallon = 3.785 411 784 [l]
            1000 / 3.785 411 784 = 264.172…
            The use is getting wrong numbers.

            Take a look at your lenght "units":
            > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:English_length_units_graph.svg
            How many years to learn this illogical crap?

            Now, take a look at SI units, there ist just
            the "meter" and you use regulary prefixes:
            > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix
            You don't need a calculator to convert,
            just slide the decimal point.

            h.

        • Shaker1

          The 400t/day is truly old news. Personally, I don't think that the number of gallons is actually very informative although it does impress with its large relative number.

          I'm sorry I'm an older American and though I can use the SI system without effort, I don't have the conversion numbers in my memory as I do the in/ft system. But I think volume in area is a much better visualization of the leaks they claim. Personally, I believe it's woefully short of what is actually happening. I ran the numbers a while ago in the discussions of this in relation to the tanks, and won't bother again for what I think is old news. But by my calculations, 400T of water is about 23.5 ft3, about the size of a smaller American house. If spread over an acre of land, it would be about 3.3 inches deep.

          So just think to yourself how large the site area is, if just the an area comprising the four reactor buildings and add in the tank farm and its public 'leakiness'. Do you really think that this volume of water is all that drains away from the plant in a day? Add a bit of rain, even the dew over this area…I just think the 400T/day is a public number that they decided upon and use without discrimination. Personally, it makes sense to me to think it's much more. The point, again, is that it's ongoing, mitigation has been dismal, and that per the 'dilution' thinking, the strategy all along.

          Just my personal thinking…

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    I don't know what else to say except that Japan has many offers to help but they have not took no one up. If they were using MOX then that for processing for bomb making & who was in on it? Now Tepco wants to build plants for Turkey or someone. We know GE is in the white house so the cover up is explained, GE does not want to lose out on these money making deals they had to sell their souls to the Devil to get, to they. We have been had for the last 75 years by the dark side of the worse who have sold their souls for some kind of promise, I am sure they will get it, but it will not be like they thought!

    • Socrates

      When at first we do deceive, what an evil web we weave.

      That's the problem with mixing the production of electricity with weapons.

      The amount of waste at Hanford alone is beyond imagination. Chernobyl and Fukushima just add to the constantly increasing hazards. None of these activities are remotely safe. The more you see, the more you see what a risk there is, and that the messes can never be cleaned up. Yet, they continue down the same road with government approval and taxpayer support to build more.

    • zogerke zogerke

      regarding them not being helped…there was one thing that the entity dropsilla posted that i thought might be credible (please do not call be a troll in response!) he has this powerpoint link (pdf) of the actions of the fukushima 50 and at the end were slides with this visual array of corporate logos- logos of all the american military contractors that were involved in helping tepco deal with it. you know- westinghouse and ge and mit and stanford univ and maybe lockheed martin and mitsubishi….there were at least two ppt slides crammed full of logos.
      so i think that is possible. if there was/is MOX fuel there (as seems to have been proven, i've been convinced of that) then there are lots of gobburment and corporate folks involved in this. Not necessarily from the standpoint of protecting health or informing the public, of course, but from the standpoint of learning in real time about this stage of nuclear technology…so they can continue on in the future to use it in weapons systems….masked as energy producers.

  • isogoodhumans

    Latest research:

    Radioactive Japanese Seafood for Export

    How the Japanese food sampling program seems to be conducted based on the FDA bulletin of restricted fishing zones. When a popular consumer fish that has been documented to travel almost a thousand kilometers shows up contaminated in Fukushima, Ibaraki no sampling is done in neighboring prefectures in order to stay of the FDA ban list.

    http://www.vitapect.org/blogs/news/11692501-radioactive-japanese-seafood-for-export

    • razzz razzz

      TEPCO says the most contaminated water stays inside their man made harbor. Either that or fish don't know how to read press releases.

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        "TEPCO says the most contaminated water stays inside their man made harbor."

        Oh really, Razzz?

        They must mean the daily amounts of radiation stay in the harbor until the next load pushes that one out into the ocean and so on and so on and so on and so on day after day.

        What they fail to tell the world is, ALL THE WATERS IN THE ENTIRE ASIAN REGION ARE CONTAMINATED. The high reports from china are not even being heard. For thousands and thousands of miles up and down over the equator has the radiation gone. It is only now hitting the west coast. It has hit everywhere else a year ago.

        Anyone that eats fish from the ocean from about the line that is being drawn now by the continuing stories of contamination and abominations, is just plain ol stupid.

        Sorry, it is what it is.

        Got Geiger?

        .

        • harengus_acidophilus

          More serious

          "What they fail to tell the world is,
          ALL THE WATERS IN THE ENTIRE ASIAN REGION ARE CONTAMINATED."

          There is just ONE ocean in the world with locally different names.
          Sooner or later ALL waters will be at the same radiation level.

          h.

        • razzz razzz

          The Olympic Committee bought into Daiichi's harbor holds all the radioactive contaminated water.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Isgood… USA started allowing import of Fukushima grown beef in 2012,

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-HMSYMvxWo

      • GOM GOM

        Of course they did. Who run Obamatown? Obama run Obamatown…

        • clamshellernh clamshellernh

          Gmo please if we want to be aware or claim to be we already know that a leader in this country is a pawn . I don't think that it Is necessary to bring Obama into this it screams racism and ignorance . I'm done reaping to this type of thing it really does not serve us here on this forum , a suggestion is going to in the trenches . Yikes a little knowledge can be dangerous . Hate does not fix anything it keeps the masses lazy imho

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            So we're supposed to love liars? What's being a liar got to do with color? Color, weight, height, it's all the same to me.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            clamshellernh, the Obama thing isn't about race. He's really a corporatist and a Wall Street puppet, IMO. It's not about his color. And people seem to forget his mother is white. For me, it was never about race because there's only one race – the human race. But those helping to put facists into power aren't going to be popular, be they black, off-white, brown, green, whatever.

    • Sparky Sparky

      @isogoodhumans, Dang! Another really well-written and sourced vitapic article, but no by-line to identify author or cite other publication or source if from somewhere/someone else.

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Given previous dissemination of information it's probably safe to assume they have known for at least 6 months. Just too busy to tell us.

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    By way of introduction Id like to thank regular posters for their efforts.
    Been reading for over a year…first thing I do on waking.
    Im a Brit who has been living near Tokyo for past 12 yrs who has been on a steep learning curve since this began. You have helped me so much.
    The lack of information has been beyond frustrating.
    Thank you
    ps. As a Brit I follow football… I don't know what soccer is

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "ps. As a Brit I follow football… I don't know what soccer is"

      Welcome brother, Wee.

      As most awakened Americans, in a nation that was undivided until the drug TV mind-kontrol took over most minds and washed them clean of reason, we do not pay attention to the distractions, bread hand-outs, or circuses they play with little balls, and cute uniforms any more. The extra exposure could kill you. Television is a dangerous weapon of mass-distraction. Beware.

      The learning curve is fast here alrighty-o, and best when the distractions and underlying agendas are easily understood to be quickly discarded. Surly you know much about the rothschld empire hierarchy in london, eh?

      Well, banksters are banksters and it always comes down to the fact that they are killing us all bro. There are no border lines or geo-political differences that forbid the crossage of the intrepid traveller radiation from the west, to the east.

      All you can do is good works and report all you can from the front lines. That is huge. Some of the Japanese brethren are making awesome on the spot videos and giving updated reports. Give thanks, and thank you for reporting in.

      Bless.

      ***

    • bo bo

      Aahahaha!!!
      Great intro gokiburi…!
      Welcome!

      • bo bo

        I now realize that abuse in 'soccer' was well worth it for it brought out many cockroaches crawling out of the woodwork!!
        (Note: I'm not being demeaning to lukers here, just a joke since his name 'gokiburi' means cockroach in japanese)

    • harengus_acidophilus

      Just another drug for the poor

      Football … soccer … every kind of "sports"
      is a setup for emotional bonding and deception.

      How many of you know hecatombes about "sports results"
      and how many know the periodic table of elements?

      Thus they can do their evil work.

      EDUCATE YOURSELF!

      h.

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    There must be holes this size scattered through all containment vessels in buildings 1 and 2 as well. Those who warned of breached containment should pat themselves on the back for informing the truth to the public.

    • Ontological Ontological

      Vermont fought the shills with there hands out on the streets of Burlington Vt. We all with a brain saw the shoddy (wooden) evaporation towers which promptly fell in a few years later.
      At OUR expense were charged for overhead that companies used to have to eat. Now were told that we must pay 1.3T in SSI funds that were misappropriated. The students protested at UVM, there was VPRIG. None of it worked we were told by certain people (trying to be respectful) there is no fear. Granted after the cooling tower there was indeed no fear, and no NEWS. We tried Grampybone…We all tried. Now Vermont is screwed. World is screwed, and the same people are still shilling the streets. The MAJOR ice cream business that was started there seems to have no input after they FAUGHT tooth and nail against Vt Yankee, as the guys selling treats on Church Street. The result was to be told by the nuclear industry they were in error that Vt Yankee powers their business. A lie of course because the power generated is NOT used by Vermont.(no names dropped) Respect.

    • razzz razzz

      After the dust settled, TEPCO's great idea was to flood the primary containment dry well shells with water to shield and keep cool any melted fuel and the breached reactor vessels. An 80'+ water column. Probes looking for standing water never saw any pooling unless they were inserted into the suppression doughnut areas which is in the basements.

      TEPCO noted all these misadventures like when Unit 2 blew up, TEPCO stated there was a 'loud noise' if the temperature sensors read to hot, they were deemed 'broken'.

  • Sam Sam

    FUKUSHIMA O FUKUSHIMA
    A Nuclear Heart Full of Holes
    Leaking Forever Water
    The Blood of Radiation

    Lifes Blood our water now
    truly alive flowing into the
    Pacific Lungs
    Choking, Choking Killing
    Slowly but inevitably our Air

    Too Many Leaks
    How Much Longer can this
    Heart Beat?
    Forever the Corium says.

    This is absolutely INTOLERABLE!
    IT IS A TORTURE BEYOND ENDURANCE

    For Most of the World it is too horrible
    too look at directly or think about.
    Like Medusa's Snakey Head-turned to stone
    Fukushima your so powerful puts us all to a
    deathly sleep

    New Religion on the Land spoken by Nucleocrats
    the new Theologians
    It's head full of holes Pure excrement flowing!
    They walk upside down with Shit vomiting out of their mouths!
    Digestion goes in reverse.
    Waters of Life Poisoned Forever
    We all are learning to live in Fear Again
    All Things radiating a deathly glow.

  • Sam Sam

    Poetry has to speak to this horror!
    Words no longer dead nouns.
    Verbs vibrating us to wake up
    Don't matter in the End as it
    is all in the Here and Now.

    Images alive to shock us.
    Administration gives us the
    raw materials to rift on as
    the World comes here to learn.

  • SadieDog

    National Security Archive, nuclear vault. Some good stuff.
    http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/the_archive.html

  • Nuke Pro here, reporting from middle of Pacific.

    Air rad levels are nice and steady between 25 and 35 CPM, some spikes.

    Will address ocean levels next week.

    Been busy. out

  • Sam Sam

    Stock is now our Herman Melville
    Our roving Pacific Ocean Basin
    Explorer. He battled Ahab the
    Socref and now is sailing
    clerar and free. Onto the land
    of the Rising Sun. You are our
    Hero of the Moment.

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Ya know, it occurs to the serious researcher that there once was some good information and scientific reports that were done and created by conscious and well meaning people that cared to report the truth in the past. Most of the available information could be safe to quote, or use in educating people about this horredous atrocity that is the scourge of mankind.

    Now, there are no real scientist left other than those that will speak their truths here on Ene. Most kow-tow to money god silence, and more lies of the dis-information specialists.

    For the great reports here on EneNews and all those who speak their truths here, we give thanks. It is a place where it is better to speak out, than to hold back. Just feel better to know that since the early days when the seeds of Energy News were spread, the community here has only grown, and the fruits have been well known. Every word, deed, and action bares fruits. This site and pert near all the contributors have been a testimonial to the growing network of aware and initiated humanity world wide. They, the babylonians seek to hide and conquer as is their norm. Here, and all over the world, it is more about unity and free expression, while yet the amazing part to realize also is, that each and all retain their individualism, morals, virtues, and God's greatest gift of all, Freedom of Choice.

    Blessings and Grace.

    .

    • harengus_acidophilus

      "their truths"?

      "and all those who speak their truths here"

      Maybe I'm naive, but if you have "your own truth" …
      There is just ONE truth and it's hidden
      and we have to dig it out.
      With reason and a loving heart.

      It's a fight between life and death and
      the only reasonable weapons are love and knownledge.
      The violent way is the TPTB-way just with a different colour.

      h.

  • WesternKyMan

    Cesium is one nasty little radionuclide, it can travel far distances if released in the atmosphere and unfortunately most cesium compounds mix very easily with water.

    The fact that it is water soluble is something pro nuke people like to promote in their attempts to tell you that Fukushima radiation will be diluted by the ocean. This is because they know 99% of people don’t realize radiation is nothing but an unstable atom and that atoms can’t be diluted by water.

    It really sounds good until you look at the facts.

    Cesium doesn’t technically mix with water…. It reacts violently with cold water and creates chemical compounds like Cesium Hydroxide…. which is still radioactive. You have to remember we are talking about unstable atoms aka radionuclides. Cesium Hydroxide is simply a cesium atom and a hydroxide ion. The cesium atom is still there…… just as strong as the day it was created. So no matter what chemical compound is formed by cesium, if its first name is cesium, then it has a cesium atom in it and it is radioactive.

    Cesium hydroxide, Cesium phosphate, Cesium Chloride, etc.

    Cesium has a half-life of 30 years and takes about 190 years to completely disappear due to its decay chain.

    Since it has similar properties to Potassium, its banana time!!!

    Pro nukers will almost always at some point bring up bananas and the fact that bananas have potassium radionuclides in them. While this is true, they like to leave out some convenient facts that they would…

    • WesternKyMan

      prefer you didn’t become aware of. 1 gram of cesium contains 10,000,000 times the radiation of a banana. I myself would prefer to take my chances with the banana.

      The amount of cesium contamination is also the basis for the guidelines which determine what will become an exclusion zone after an accidental release. It takes very little cesium in the environment to make it uninhabitable by humans. That same 1 gram above spread into the atmosphere would make a fairly large chunk of real estate unsafe for decades.

      Don’t get me wrong, Cesium has some extremely valuable uses in medicine and with some of the chemical compounds created with it, it’s just that running around buck wild in nature isn’t one them.

      Just the facts, mam, just the facts!!

      • WesternKyMan

        This is something I posted on another site… anybody see anything technically wrong?

        • Angela_R

          WesternKyMan, I understood that

          a banana contained potassium
          but cesium only mimiced potassium.

        • Socrates

          The biological half – life is longer. It takes 300 years in natural biological systems to really reduce 137Cs to a survivable level.

          If refer people to Steven Starr ' s videos. He presented for the Helen Caldicott Foundation in March of 2013.

          Bioaccumulation up the food chain and concentration in many organs results from exposures. The Chernobyl studies should be referenced in a 6 discussion of 134/137Cs. Very important is deposition of Cs in precipitation into fresh water and onto crops. Strontium-90 releases become a big factor where cores burn through concrete containment. Look for this in milk through collection discarded baby teeth. Also, support government and private testing of milk, not just raising "acceptable levels."

      • Sickputer

        Good stuff WKM and another way to measure radiation is by becquerels.

        The specific gravity of 1 gram of cesium-137 is a hefty 3.2 trillion becquerels.

        Even hotter radiation is strontium-90 at a specific gravity of 5.3 trillion becquerels per gram.

        http://tekknorg.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/one-gram-can-irradiate-a-nation/
        One gram can irradiate a Nation

    • harengus_acidophilus

      "completely"?

      "Cesium has a half-life of 30 years and takes about
      190 years to completely disappear due to its decay chain."

      Duration of a decay chain can't be calculated by adding half lives. You have to calculate with infinite summation of logarithmic values and percentages, in fact: it will never COMPLETELY disappear.

      h.

    • weeman

      Cesium doesn’t technically mix with water…. It reacts violently with cold water and creates chemical compounds like Cesium Hydroxide…, how cold of water are we talking, would a polar current be cold enough.

  • hbjon hbjon

    The island of Japan must shelter in place when the wind does not blow off shore. This situation continues to be lethal. One whiff of any releases from FDNPP and your a goner.

    Fission products will mix with the water deep below the earth and find their way into the runoff. It takes time for the radioactive gases to leave the water and enter the atmosphere after the water reaches the ocean. The problem is, Krypton, Xenon, Radon, Cesium, and others want to repel away from the water. The solar energy provides the boost that allows the atoms to get airborne, this is why we see the bad storms in the summertime, imho.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, here will be many pulsing waves of radiation contamination circling the globe from now until eternity! 🙁

    Shut all these Nuclear Rattle Traps down now via International Law.. 🙂

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Tepco announces they are seeking 2.67 TRILLION dollars to EXPAND ….

    http://fukushimaupdate.com/tepco-may-spend-2-67-trillion-yen-to-expand-beyond-fukushima/
    They will get that and more I'm sure

    Sent from my F-iPad

    • myau

      Folks,the unspoken meaning behind "expand beyond Fukushima" will surely means "abandonment" either deliberately or after another big EQ tsunami and what not. Instead of spending all of tepco's assets plus that wasted Olimpic funds on real clean-up effort, abandonment will also mean killing the ocean regardless of the eventual death of all humans including their own. Absolutely insane and criminal, makes me wonder why the military might of the US, China or Russia just stood by and not doing a damned thing about this? Wait until tepco get its bank loan and restart all their death machines again, God should help us all! Peace.

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    Holy CRAP! A 12" wide crack at #3. Please don't tell me it is true.

    WTF is with this article…I would be a "bit" more concerned about the fact the the concrete roof, floors and walls are "missing somewhere".

  • pkjn

    875 trillion Bq of Tritium contained in total contaminated water / Over 60 times much as safety limit
    January 18th, 2014 Fukushima Diary
    The total volume of Tritium contained in the stocked contaminated water is 875 trillion Bq. Tokyo Electric submitted the data to Tritium task force of Japanese Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.

    Currently 400,000 m3 of contaminated water is stocked in the tanks. 817 trillion Bq of Tritium is contained in the tanks.
    Additionally contaminated water is also stocked in reactor buildings etc.. The part of contaminated water outside of the tanks contain 58 trillion Bq of Tritium.

    Tritium is NOT going to be filtered.
    This is 60 times much as the annual safety limit of 4 reactors to discharge to the sea. This means, Tokyo Electric would take over 60 years to resolve the current water problem even if Tokyo Electric chooses to discharge Tritium to the sea. In reality, the volume of contaminated water is increasing by over 400 m3 per day.

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/01/875000000000000-bq-of-tritium-contained-in-total-contaminated-water-over-60-times-much-as-safety-limit/

  • Way up top Time machine 2020 posted YouTube video of mountain above fukushima. Very enlightening. Just like Eagle mountain bc where I live. Mountain streams get really big with rain. Underground water could be flowing through and around melted out of containment cores and into the ocean. To fix this problem will bankrupt Japan and the world economy.

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