“Japanese catastrophe is already more serious than Chernobyl” — Air force chief at Chernobyl shocked by poor response to Fukushima

Published: April 25th, 2011 at 9:01 pm ET
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Chernobyl recovery officer criticises Japan’s efforts at Fukushima, Telegraph, April 25, 2011:

In a rare interview on the eve of the 25th anniversary of Chernobyl on Monday, Col-Gen Nikolai Antoshkin said he was shocked at how poorly Japan had coped with its own nuclear disaster.

“Right at the start when there was not yet a big leak of radiation they (the Japanese) wasted time.

And then they acted in slow-motion,” he said. [...]

“I think the Japanese catastrophe is already more serious than Chernobyl. The main thing is that they do not allow it to become three, four or five times more serious.”

Gen Antoshkin, 68, was in charge of Soviet pilots who flew over Chernobyl’s stricken fourth reactor, dropping lead, sand and clay from the air to try to contain radiation. [...]

Read the report here.

Published: April 25th, 2011 at 9:01 pm ET
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46 comments to “Japanese catastrophe is already more serious than Chernobyl” — Air force chief at Chernobyl shocked by poor response to Fukushima

  • Franky

    the response is a fucking joke


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    • sassyiam

      Yep. Figured it would be but I am kinda shocked by a number of responses and reactions I’ve received from some individuals just by only 3 links I’ve sent them, 2 from the epa (one for levels and another with their own damn “limits”) and another from their own damn water depts. Gentle no? yet that is TMI for them.

      Ok, maybe the worst pun ever, but what kind of day is it when some of your “friends and family” think you’re a nutter for recommending they drink clean water? Under ANY circumstance! Holy cow, you’d think I suggested living in the old testament or instituting sharia law by their reactions. Guess flouride works afterall. Truly pitiful.

      Good health to you and yours Franky – glad you have a head.


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      • mothra

        Psychologically, it takes some peeps longer. Denial is a defense mechanism. Your point of view will be naturally selected for and bear out as sanity after time passes. Unfortunately, you’re not a nutter. It means you’re brave, cautious and a critical thinker. It also means you care. I don’t think I’ll remember the labels for being ahead of the radionuclide info curve. I’ll remember I tried. Looking back over the years (cross fingers)… I can’t change other peeps or control what they do with information, but at least they received it.


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  • Northern Exposure

    Half a million troops and volunteers over a couple of months versus a few hundred workers over a couple of months.

    Yup, it doesn’t take much to do the math.


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    • FYI

      That’s something I don’t understand:

      Japan has a population of 127 million.

      They can’t find a few more volunteers from their own population?


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    • Yessir

      “Half a million troops and volunteers over a couple of months versus a few hundred workers over a couple of months.”
      The wasn’t half a million troops in Chernobyl over a couple of months it was during several years.

      At Fukushima they have probably had a couple of thousand workers in a month.


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  • Thomas Wells

    We can( insert your favorite 20-21 century scientific achievenent here), but we can’t take care of the Fukushima senario?


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  • tony wilson

    piss poor executive tepco actions.
    various reasons come to mind.
    they really thought they could order a few parts to save the thing and get the reactors up and running again.
    an obscene mad belief that they could control and dominate this technology even when the core hit the floor.
    the event was kept at level 5 because of a loss of face involving moving people out further if it went to level 7.
    an inability to ask for the worlds help.
    involving loss of face because they were meant to be a world technological leader in the field.
    a company and government looking at financial positions rather than japanese or world health.
    the russian in charge of the army at chernobyl stated he treated the radiation like a war scenario with one battle that had to be won quickly..
    tepco’s slowww battle is more laurel and hardy meets mr bean….
    using bits of news paper to bung up holes.
    if all goes well maybe a million deaths over 25 years but the good thing is they will not feel shame because they never lost face.


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  • anne

    Why isn’t the MSM reporting these protests to end nuclear power? Their silence over the worst environmental disaster ever makes them entertainment celebrities rather than journalists:

    International calls for end to nuclear powe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALncPD5vrQ8


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    • mothra

      The MSM is owned by 6 corporations that also own the reactors. The biggest global nuclear disaster in history won’t be televised. They didn’t cover Iraq war protests either – we had 250,000 in the streets here at least. Nada. They own energy, military, our legislators too.


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      • xdrfox

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    • xdrfox

      General Electric
      In the song in the G.E. commerical from the eighties that says “G.E is right, warm and bright, wherever theres a lighthouse shining, dream in sight. G.E. is right we’ll be there- we bring good things to life.
      -
      General Electric, America’s largest corporation, made $14,200,000,000 in profits in 2010 and paid $0 in taxes — that’s right, zero dollars in taxes.
      At the same time, C.E.O. Jeffrey Immelt saw his compensation double. Now GE is expected to ask 15,000 of their unionized workers to make major concessions in wages and benefits.
      http://www.immeltmustgo.com/action/immelt-must-go?sc=immelt_gg12
      -
      List of assets owned by General Electric
      Primary business unitsGE Capital
      GE Capital Aviation Services, GE Energy Financial Services, GE Real Estate, GE Americas, GE Asia and GE Europe, Middle East & Africa
      GE Technology Infrastructure
      GE Aviation, GE Healthcare and GE Transportation
      GE Energy
      GE Energy Services, GE Oil & Gas, GE Power & Water
      GE Home & Business Solutions
      GE Appliances & Lighting, GE Intelligent Platforms
      NBC Universal (49% ownership)
      [edit] HealthcareGE Healthcare
      Amersham plc
      Datex Ohmeda
      Whatman
      [edit] MediaNBCUniversal (49% ownership)
      NBC – National Broadcasting Company
      NBC Network Television stations
      WNBC 4 – New York
      KNBC 4 – Los Angeles
      WMAQ 5 – Chicago
      WCAU 10 – Philadelphia
      KNTV 11 – San Jose/San Francisco
      KXAS 5 – Dallas/Fort Worth²
      WRC 4 – Washington
      WTVJ 6 – Miami
      KNSD 39 (cable 7) – San Diego²
      WVIT 30 – Hartford
      NBC Entertainment
      NBC News
      NBC Sports
      NBC Studios
      NBCUniversal Sports & Olympics
      NBCUniversal Television Group
      Universal Media Studios
      NBC Universal Television Distribution
      NBC Universal International Television
      EMKA, Ltd.
      NBC Universal Digital Media
      NBC Universal Cable
      A&E Television Networks (co-owned with The Hearst Corporation and Disney/ABC):
      A&E
      The Biography Channel
      Crime & Investigation Network
      The History Channel
      The History Channel en Español
      History Channel International
      Lifetime
      Military History Channel
      Bravo
      Chiller (horror-themed cable channel, launched March 1, 2007) [1]
      CNBC
      CNBC World
      MSNBC (co-owned with Microsoft)
      NBC WeatherPlus
      mun2
      SyFy
      ShopNBC
      Sleuth
      USA Network
      Universal HD
      The Weather Channel
      WeatherPlus
      NBCUniversal Global Networks
      NBCUniversal Global Networks
      LAPTV (Latin America) – co-owned with Paramount Pictures (Viacom), MGM and 20th Century Fox (News Corporation);
      Telecine (Brazil) – co-owned with Globosat Canais, Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks, MGM and 20th Century Fox;
      Universal Channel Latin America (except Brazil
      Universal Channel Brazil (co-owned with Globosat Canais);
      Sci Fi Channel (Latin America)
      NBCUniversal Global Networks España.
      Telemundo
      KVEA/KWHY – Los Angeles
      WNJU – New York
      WSCV – Miami
      KTMD – Houston
      WSNS – Chicago
      KXTX – Dallas/Fort Worth
      KVDA – San Antonio
      KSTS – San Jose/San Francisco
      KTAZ – Phoenix
      KBLR – Las Vegas
      KNSO – Fresno
      KDEN – Longmont, Colorado
      WNEU – Boston/Merrimack
      KHRR – Tucson
      WKAQ – Puerto Rico
      Universal Studios (co-owned with Vivendi)
      Universal Pictures
      Focus Features
      Rogue
      Working Title Films
      Universal Studios Licensing
      Universal Animation Studios
      Universal Interactive
      Universal Pictures International
      Universal Studios Home Entertainment
      Universal Home Entertainment Productions
      United International Pictures (co-owned with Paramount Pictures/Viacom);
      Universal Operations Group
      Universal Production Studios
      Universal Parks & Resorts
      qubo – Qubo Venture,LLC¹
      ¹Minority interest
      ²Stations which LIN Television owns a minority interest (24%) in

      See also Lists of corporate assets
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_corporate_assets

      Surprise: GE Scores First Exemption From Obama Greenhouse Gas …
      4 Feb 2011 … GE gets government financial subsidies to establish a solar energy feild in the southwest US with solar panels made in…….Ready for it? …

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/surprise-ge-scores-first-exemption-from-obama-greenhouse-gas-regulations/
      GE Gets Over 2.3 Federal Energy Grants…Every Month! | Institute …
      29 Oct 2010 … All these subsidies explain why GE invested an average of $19.5 million each year … but in lobbying the government for more subsidies. …

      http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2010/10/29/ge-gets-over-2-3-federal-energy-grants-every-month/


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  • anne

    Telling truth main lesson of Chernobyl, Fukushima: Medvedev
    25 April 2011 | 18:20 | FOCUS News Agency

    Moscow. The main lesson of Chernobyl and Fukushima is that authorities must tell the truth, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Monday ahead of the 25th anniversary of the world’s worst nuclear disaster, AFP reports.
    Medvedev made the plea for transparency in nuclear emergencies at a meeting in the Kremlin with rescue workers who were charged with cleaning up Chernobyl and have long complained of being unaware of the risks they were encountering.
    “I think that our modern states must see the main lesson of what happened at Chernobyl and the most recent Japanese tragedy as the necessity to tell people the truth,” Medvedev told the meeting ahead of the Chernobyl anniversary on Tuesday.
    “The world is so fragile and we are so connected that any attempts to hide the truth, to gloss over a situation, to make it more optimistic, will end with tragedy and cost the lives of people.”
    “This is a tough and important lesson of what happened.”

    http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n248031
    http://www.dotspress.com/dmitry-medvedev-we-have-to-tell-the-truth-about-chernobyl-and-fukushima/771991/

    Isn’t it ironic that it is Medvedev calling for transparency about the nuclear crisis? Where is the conscience of the current administration? After Katrina, and the Gulf Oil Spill, have no lessons been learned? Cover-ups and lack of caring for the American people is sure political suicide.


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    • Noah

      The Truth & Japanese Culture

      “The world is so fragile and we are so connected that any attempts to hide the truth, to gloss over a situation, to make it more optimistic, will end with tragedy and cost the lives of people.” – Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, FNA

      This is a true statement, and applicable the 3-11 event.

      Japan’s attempt to hide the truth, has cultural roots.

      Upon diagnosis of cancer Japanese physicians may hide the truth from the patient, to spare him or her from fear, worry and panic. Patients may die, never knowing the cause of their own illness & death. This psychology (largely unknown to foreigners), is present in the national consciousness. It is unspoken policy and culturally permissible.

      Sparing the people of fear, while shouldering unimaginable burdens is present in the tradition of the bushido code and samurai traditions.

      When Pearl Harbor was attacked, top military leadership in the Japanese military command and control, knew in advance, that they were out matched and the war would end badly for them.

      In the way of the warrior, this secret knowledge, a great burden, was secretly borne by the high command. The truth was withheld to prevent fear and panic in the rank and file.

      Once again, we observe a similar sight, the high command of TEPCO, bravely fighting on against incredible odds, against a nuclear giant, against the very laws of physics, fighting on until every last of their 50 employees are dead.

      “Hear the songs of battle, see the banners of war fluttering in the wind. Earth, wind and Fire!” “The Dai-ichi 50 bravely march into the nuclear breach!”

      As odd as this sound, these phrases resound in the hearts and emotions of these warriors, who know they will die trying.

      “We know we will die.” said the 50 calmly.

      I have told this story to illustrate what the TEPCO leadership feel and how they are culturally conditioned to act. I hope these sociological insights help understand the obscuration of accurate info. and why it is so slowly leaking out of Japan.

      Simple, embarrassment and loss of face (reputation) does not explain what is happening. These men view it as their duty to spare the world of the great burden of the truth “… and fight on until the death.”

      Unfortunately, the truth is needed for the health and survival of the USofA.

      The lack of truth has helped promote a lackadaisical attitude. Using an umbrella during radioactive rainfall, drinking purified water, driving with your windows rolled up and taking baths when exposed to radioactive rainfall is considered excessive. Such protective behaviors the practice of the misinformed and ignorant.

      The fallout, falling invisibly, bio-accumulating silently, which includes P-239, P-238, S-89, S-90 C-137 and I-131 are compared to the dangers of banana eating and exposures to sunlight and airline flights.

      I am very concerned, the military grade, EMI hardened, dosimeter that I wear jumped by 50% over the last two days. The accumulated rate of exposure I have had has accelerated. It is consistent with reports that fallout intensities are increasing. I can read a trend when I see it.

      I am counting on the banana people to come out periodically and try to reassure me, “these are safe levels” They are as reassuring as sharks circling. Safe for external exposure, yeah who cares about that! It’s internal ingestion that is the concern.

      “Let’s stay the course, hand steady to the helm. Eye on the truth. We have a long way to go.” – Noah


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      • mothra

        Some world governments know – G8. US. They’re all signatory bodies for data taken from our assets. The only release of that information has been from Norway so far. I don’t think that Japan is witholding information our government isn’t very much aware of.


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      • extra knight

        The fallout, falling invisibly, bio-accumulating silently, which includes P-239, P-238, S-89, S-90 C-137 and I-131 are compared to the dangers of banana eating and exposures to sunlight and airline flights.

        there’s that gooshdanged “dogs breakfast” again. :( rwoof! unfortunately the ustoppable damage to the biosphere and the environment won’t be so invisible, and also the damage caused to the food chain from bioaccumation of toxic radioactive substances will be quite noticeable. oh yeah lest we forget the citizens who had no control over this chain of events and disasters.

        eat a banana, go to jail.


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      • fireguyjeff

        Noah: Where are you located that you are seeing what you are on you dosimeter?

        I live in Portland OR and have been too rattled by all of this to break mine out and fire it up.

        As I write this, I am measuring 8 to 19 uSv/hr here in a split level basement. Outside right next to wet very rained on dirt it quickly jumps to 15 to 19 uSv/hr and does not drop below 15 (tested on 2 different wet spots). So I am not seeing much difference here.

        What I don’t know is what would the readings have been pre-Fukushima fallout.


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    • stockdude

      Then it all seems like suicide they are willing to accept, or they have another plan. The central planners that is.


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  • Someone might want to watch this one hour video, posted April 23, 2011 with the title:
    Fukushima Nuclear Reactor – Deliberate and Systematic Destruction (user:PlaneFake). At first view she looks to be overreacting, but her info (maybe) squares with Arnie Gundersen and Chris Busby.


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  • A couple of errant thoughts. 1. Rumour has it there’s a fair bit of “curious” activity on the net right now causing pages (and sites) to disappear. Hoping this one has a backup in case something untoward occurs.

    2. I’m on Vancouver Island (Canada, West Coast) and am wondering about the extent of radiation levels here. I’m using the NILU chart and radiationnetwork, but these don’t pick up all forms of radiation, and all the isoptopes.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    At the end of this video, Professor Christopher Busby said you can’t seal it . It will go into the ground, wash out to sea, onto the coastlines.

    If this can’t be sealed, then what?

    Can these plants die on it’s own and if so, how long would that take?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-3Kf4JakWI


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    • stockdude

      Maybe in 100,000 years or so it can be considered safe.


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    • tony wilson

      a theory about chernobyl is that the energy from fission reduced enough to contain.
      they had miners digging and dieing making a massive space under the reactor.
      they were then going to pump in liquid nitrogen.
      this was because if the nuclear core hit the water table most of europe and russia would have been dead in 10 years.
      the fission material cooled and they then pumped in tons of concrete mixed with boron and zeolite.
      fukishima is like trying to compare a kitten with a 1oft tall tiger.
      the core is already working it’s way down through the ground.if it hits the water table it will be good night everyone.
      the theory is that they did not like the idea of burying uranium and plutonium.
      my theory is areva france who are world leaders in reprocessing uranium and dealing with plutonium were trying to do some deal of help swap for uranium and plutonium product.

      but what we have here is a self sustaining event.the theory is that the china syndrome is hypothetical but that is the experiment now.
      japan is already unstable melted reactor explosions as they hit water tables near earth quake fault lines.
      tepco dumped so much fuel in these reactors that if major fission starts over they will be generating nuclear pollution for hundreds of years.


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  • gardenia

    I hate to be blunt, but unless you have a fantastic immune system, are a full-grown adult with a large thyroid, minimal prior history of radiation exposures or cancer, lots of extra $ to pay for supplements and superfoods, willing to manage your own preventive care 24/7, and have great health insurance, I think you should relocate from the West Coast before anymore SHsTF…
    At least consider sending the kids to summer camp somewhere that is safer….Austin, TX?…abroad?
    Good luck-especially to the brave!


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    • FYI

      It’s not just the west coast.

      Florida got hit pretty well, too.

      And the CTBTO’s monitors found the radiation in the southern hemisphere; i.e., Australia, Fiji, etc.


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    • radegan

      Watching all the radiation animations, I’d say so far San Antonio is looking pretty good. Parts of Florida aren’t too bad either, might fix that little real estate problem we’ve been having if West Coasters decide to flee.


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  • Buck-0

    you can always move to Kansas:
    EPA RADNET DATA:

    State
    KS
    Location
    Kansas City
    Date Posted
    04/13/2011
    Date Collected
    03/29/2011
    Sample Type
    Precipitation
    Unit
    pCi/l
    Ba-140
    Co-60
    Cs-134Cs-136
    Cs-137
    I-131
    200 (that’s 200 pCi/l)emphasis added
    I-132
    I-133
    Te-129
    Te-129m
    Te-132


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    • mothra

      I saw that about Kansas earlier – that sucks! Did you see Boise, Idaho?:
      Iodine-131 @ 390 pCi/l


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      • sassyiam

        Good morning you guys!:)

        So sad for Kansas..and Idaho..everywhere. Idaho shows cesium too, as tests 3/27 showed 34.3 pci/l in the rain of Cesium 134 and 36.4 pci/l of Cesium 137 according to radnet. Looks like 136 is there too amongst others I’m sure.

        Boise is always bad. It lies in the Treasure Valley along with 3 other major cities, Nampa, Caldwell and Meridian which collectively holds about 40% of Idaho’s 1.5 million. Along with the Treasure, Gem Valley, which is a bit northwest has a problem too of holding inversions. Even when there are fires in southern CA, 800 miles away, the smoke sits there way longer than any fire ever burns. Gem County too is where the feds are paying them off for the Nevada testing. I kid you not, just yesterday another friend of mine there found out she has liver cancer. She’s 37. Radiation aside, the arsenic levels in the water of the entire southwest of the state are atrocious also. 50-1000 ug/l whereas the epa lets you have 10 ug/l. http://www.deq.idaho.gov/water/prog_issues/drinking_water/arsenic_idaho_map.pdf

        Despite bad stuff being everywhere, I think if someone is considering moving, a good look at the geography, history, watersheds and bit of watching air currents etc. of any prospective area would be prudent before making any decision as for some, it could easily be out of the pan and into the fire.


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  • Tricky Dick

    The Japaneses have never addressed their responsibility for the murderous use of biological warfare against prisoners,and masses of civilians in WWII. Why would they be anymore open about Fukushima?


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  • Nina2

    I saw this link and video on Daimotion. This general (Antoshkin) led the air force at Tchernobyl. Tchernobyl was a military operation. It was a huge mobilization of the entire country, army and air force, hospitals, reservists, everyone. The evacuation took place without any panic and very smoothly, people were placed in homes. Was called 500 000 people. Cleaning the area around 30 km and construction of the sarcophagus over 195 tons of the corium took them 6 months. 500 000 persons has been irradiated, today everyone is or dead or sick.
    Not counting the genetically damaged children and the cases of cancer at the adults persons.
    TEPCO is a private company. Maybe they have money, but they haven’t the power, the people nor an army.
    And now Fukushima is enven worse as Tch.


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  • Nina2

    And nobody there is a strong man, a military chief.


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  • Nina2

    Last year we ought to die of pandemia H1N1 (fake), this year we get Fukushima… And Japans do nothing about it. What else before us?


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  • Folks posting here seem to be in sync the deliberate lies and lies by omission, but is it realistic to expect that the PTB actually tell the truth?

    North American Radiation

    Radiation is cumulative, jet streams move west to east, but pressure systems can change things, there is no escape.

    * Cesium 137 accumulates in fatty tissues, liver, spleen and muscles
    * Iodide-131 accumulates in Thyroid, breast and ovaries
    * Strontium-90 concentrates in your bones and liver
    * Barium-140 causes bone tumors up to 30 years later
    * Tellurium-132 causes cell mutations, repeatedly via replication
    * Yttrium-0 damage to liver and respiration
    * Plutonium-244 concentrates in your liver
    * Uranium 235 accumulates in your bones and liver

    In 1972 Dr Abram Petkau discovered that low levels of radiation, over a longer period of time, were more damaging than higher doses over a short period of time.

    Once you ingest or inhale even very low levels of radioactive particles the Petkau Effect immediately starts potentially lethal tissue ionization.

    The phenomenon of the Petkau Effect basically means that you are ionizing or irradiating yourself continuously from the inside out. This insidious burning at your molecular level will impair your body long before there is a diagnosable disease.

    We can take the best care of our bodies, following the examples set from Chernobyl. My mother died 6 years after Chernobyl and I suffered 3 back to back immune disorders, starting with pneumonia. We are already beginning to see the first pneumonia deaths from Fukushima….right on time…between 1-6 months after the event.

    My plans include detoxification, boosting immune system, decontaminating soils, protecting animals.

    What are you doing?

    http://www.natural-healht-home-remedies.com/radiatin.html


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  • Heart of the Rose

    This was posted on the FOSL site.
    Sorry.. if already posted here as well.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fF3TQ0lJnU


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  • Nina2

    Now I begin to think the cause of this criminal delay with Fukushima reparation is they haven’t a gouvernment to be able to stop it. The army? Tepco is a private business. In Russia it was a cold war time, it was easy to mobilise all the empire. And they called 500 000 soldats. Who can do it today? Maybe ONU, but by the moment they prefer to bomb Libya .


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