Japanese Journalist: “It’s like killing our own children, I cannot allow it to happen” — Teachers forcing students to eat food that parents fear is contaminated with radiation (VIDEO)

Published: August 22nd, 2011 at 8:30 am ET


福島の子供を守れ, LeChatBleuDansLaNuit, August 21, 2011:

At 10:45 in – Takashi Hirose

h/t Evacuate Fukushima 福島の子供を守れ

Evacuate FUKUSHIMA – 福島の子供を守れ from LeChatBleuDansLaNuit on Vimeo.

Published: August 22nd, 2011 at 8:30 am ET


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114 comments to Japanese Journalist: “It’s like killing our own children, I cannot allow it to happen” — Teachers forcing students to eat food that parents fear is contaminated with radiation (VIDEO)

    • @xrdfox – Its 8.14am on the 23rd of August and I was surprised to see you link to my site. Thanks for that. I like to think we are all working together. Just one thing I would like to point out is being in Brisbane, Australia my timestamps are 17 hours ahead of enenews. So anything you see dated 22nd on my site is 21st in your part of the world(Well that depends where you are!)

      I just didn’t want anyone to think I was copying enenews. However if enenews put something up in the public interest I’d be sure to use it. And I hope vice versa. In this case it looks like both websites found the same thing from different sources.

      I have a link on my website to enenews as I cannot cover everything.

      • Sorry looks like timestamp is 14 hours different to my time. We all work together anyway. Its probably a mute point I’m making.

      • Good day mate !
        Yes, got a Card once in 68 from a cute stewardess at 30,000 ft. for crossing into the Eternal Golden Dragon (Time Line). lol
        Yes we are on the same page, you are not new to us here, nice to see others are joining us around the globe, A post this morning from Alaska as well, please click on all story links folks, they read the ‘cookies’ (tracking code) and see where visitors are coming from, (back to enenews) Many have tracked back to this site and follow and make references (on thier sites, live or in print) plus possibly will do more stories (as many many have) on the issue and expose to more people that need to know the truth ! When they get a lot of hits they like the ratings ! They know they have touched on a HOT TOPIC !

        • I found it strange in Tahiti. I was 20 hours behind my ususal time. I was living in my birthplace of Melbourne at the time(Same time as Brisbane).

          I would call people in Australia and they were nearly a full day ahead!

          I was even behind the US time. It is weird when you leave one place and arrive before you left!. Groundhog day!

        • Your right about the tracking side. I posted some links to stories with an extract virtually minutes after the journalist published the story. When I look at my logs from time to time I do notice they have visited my site. I have had a few emails saying they are happy I am promoting the issue. I have found with this issue journalists are quite happy as long as their stories get promoted and the “cause” keeps getting exposed.

          With YouTube videos I normally send them a short message saying I embedded their video and they are actually grateful for more exposure. And I’m greatful for their work.

          The way to beat the nuclear industry and their spin is to always stay united. I know people will have some disagreements but ultimately if we want to save some lives its a team effort. It might sound dramatic to talk about saving lives but make no mistake thats what all the people who make the youtube videos, websites and selected journalists are trying to do. One sick kid is one sick kid too many.

          I’d like to tackle the African drought but I feel I need to stick with japan as they have the available means to help their citizens. It is really a matter of how many people get sick before “we” succeed.

          • I managed to get a few on board with Darfur years pass, but alas they have no resources (ie wealths to exploit) so …

            I want to let you know you have brought a good fight for the peoples of Japan, as your county men I served with in Vietnam, were some bloody courageous hard fighters, never got the recognition they should have around the world ! Thank you mates, Well Done !

            Being a single Father and raising mine from toddlers on my on, (all grown now) whew ! … Have a special spot for the children too,… And Asian people as well having lived with many in various countries and conditions !

            I am happy to know such people of high caliber such as yourself, keep up the good fight, Save the people of Japan first and we’ll figure out the rest later !

        • My Uncle served in Vietnam. He got really messed up by “Agent Orange” or so that is the theory. He died in 2000 or 2001. He must of been about 50 at the time of death.

          My Grandfather fought in Borneo and died in 2008. He told me many bad things about the war. Many things he could not speak about. Unfortunately he suffered mental issues because of the war but now he is resting in peace.

          I better stop before I tear up! – I don’t cry but writing this stuff does bring a bit of water.

          • Focus on the man behind the curtain, are you familiar with The Wizard of Oz ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_(1939_film

            Monsanto / “Agent Orange” and all the other Rainbow colors of, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto
            My two Daughters have growths behind their ears / same spot, said to me by many doctors effect of A O ! Both my boys seem to be fine ??
            It’s all in the history and who is running things !

            Sorry to hear of your lose’s, the horror’s of war, profit others !

            I cried a river, now I build a bridge !

            He wasn’t mental, just no word’s to tell the horror’s !

            Bob Dylan A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall Lyrics

            Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son ?
            And where have you been my darling young one ?
            I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
            I’ve walked and I’ve crawled on six crooked highways
            I’ve stepped in the middle of seven sad forests
            I’ve been out in front of a dozen dead oceans
            I’ve been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard
            And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
            It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

            Oh, what did you see, my blue eyed son ?
            And what did you see, my darling young one ?
            I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
            I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it
            I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin’
            I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin’
            I saw a white ladder all covered with water
            I saw ten thousand takers whose tongues were all broken
            I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children
            And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
            It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

            And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son ?
            And what did you hear, my darling young one ?
            I heard the sound of a thunder, it roared out a warnin’
            I heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
            I heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin’
            I heard ten thousand whisperin’ and nobody listenin’
            I heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin’
            Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
            Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley
            And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
            And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

            Oh, who did you meet my blue-eyed son ?
            Who did you meet, my darling young one ?
            I met a young child beside a dead pony
            I met a white man who walked a black dog
            I met a young woman whose body was burning
            I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow
            I met one man who was wounded in love
            I met another man who was wounded and hatred
            And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
            And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

            And what’ll you do now, my blue-eyed son ?
            And what’ll you do now my darling young one ?
            I’m a-goin’ back out ‘fore the rain starts a-fallin’
            I’ll walk to the deepths of the deepest black forest
            Where the people are a many and their hands are all empty
            Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
            Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
            Where the executioner’s face is always well hidden
            Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten
            Where black is the color, where none is the number
            And I’ll tell and think it and speak it and breathe it
            And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it
            Then I’ll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin’
            But I’ll know my songs well before I start singin’
            And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
            It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

  • Such a beautiful, magical place it is, we can never to go to magical place’s for they often do not exist, but here it will be without safety again !

    Just look at what we have lost !

    • Jebus Jebus

      He was human like you and I, with faults.
      If he was here today he would have fought in the way that the masses would recognize. We must have that passion to fight for this planet.


      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        …but only after he put that lipstick on LOL

        • Jebus Jebus

          The message, not the messenger…

          What about sunrise
          What about rain
          What about all the things
          That you said we were to gain.. .
          What about killing fields
          Is there a time
          What about all the things
          That you said was yours and mine…
          Did you ever stop to notice
          All the blood we’ve shed before
          Did you ever stop to notice
          The crying Earth the weeping shores?

          Aaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaah

          What have we done to the world
          Look what we’ve done
          What about all the peace
          That you pledge your only son…
          What about flowering fields
          Is there a time
          What about all the dreams
          That you said was yours and mine…
          Did you ever stop to notice
          All the children dead from war
          Did you ever stop to notice
          The crying Earth the weeping shores

          Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaah

          I used to dream
          I used to glance beyond the stars
          Now I don’t know where we are
          Although I know we’ve drifted far

          Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaaah
          Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaaah

          Hey, what about yesterday
          (What about us)
          What about the seas
          (What about us)
          The heavens are falling down
          (What about us)
          I can’t even breathe
          (What about us)
          What about the bleeding Earth
          (What about us)
          Can’t we feel its wounds
          (What about us)
          What about nature’s worth
          It’s our planet’s womb
          (What about us)
          What about animals
          (What about it)
          We’ve turned kingdoms to dust
          (What about us)
          What about elephants
          (What about us)
          Have we lost their trust
          (What about us)
          What about crying whales
          (What about us)
          We’re ravaging the seas
          (What about us)
          What about forest trails
          (ooo, ooo)
          Burnt despite our pleas
          (What about us)
          What about the holy land
          (What about it)
          Torn apart by creed
          (What about us)
          What about the common man
          (What about us)
          Can’t we set him free
          (What about us)
          What about children dying
          (What about us)
          Can’t you hear them cry
          (What about us)
          Where did we go wrong
          (ooo, ooo)
          Someone tell me why
          (What about us)
          What about babies
          (What about it)
          What about the days
          (What about us)
          What about all their joy
          (What about us)
          What about the man
          (What about us)
          What about the crying man
          (What about us)
          What about Abraham
          (What was us)
          What about death again
          (ooo, ooo)
          Do we give a damn

    • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

      Way to go Moonkai!!

      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        Moonkai? I’ve been watching for more from Moonkai, but I haven’t seen him/her. Where is Moonkai. I just went back through this thread to try to find Moonkai.

        Please give more information on Moonkai. Thx!

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Dante saves the most heinous crimes for the lowest ring of Hell, the image of Ugolino eating his own children, the ultimate betrayal.
    The teaching of Jesus should guide us all:
    Mark 10:14
    King James Version (KJV)
    14But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

  • Who can watch without tear ??

    • larry-andrew-nils

      i’ll give it a shot… here goes.

      • larry-andrew-nils

        i lasted over 12 minutes… till i saw those two kids with the masks on saying how they wish they could play outside more.

        that made me cry for some reason, i don’t know why.

        it’s because they could have saved them from this by neutralizing the molten puddles with gold… they could have saved us all from this.

        and now if we all die, what value will the gold have?

        who will polish it ?

    • Steven Steven

      That is very well done isn’t it? Quite a professional piece and deeply moving. Let’s hope it gets out there and scores plenty of views.

    • theypoisonus

      How about 1/2 box of kleenex. 🙁

      I will spend all day trying to get this message out to other venues.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Nor I..I can barely stand it…. I’m sorry for the blow-up yesterday.
    Many days… I type with tears flowing.
    Like now…

    • BIG HUG, these are exceptional time’s with exceptional emotions !

    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      You need to get out and live life just a bit more then. Crying over this is a waste of your time. YOU have no control over it. Go for a walk, buy an ice cream cone and sit on a bench and feed the ducks!

  • Sickputer

    With all the cesium and aerosolized plutonium floating around I am sure our brains as well as heart tissue are not faring too well in North America and much worse in Japan.

    Sorry also for my tone to you and others as I was feeling not so good yesterday…it was not a good biorhythm day for me. I love all you guys even our friend who loved typing in freaky caps. This is a special list and I have been on thousands.

    I am so sad for the children in Japan and all the people who were left in harm’s way and are dying now. This is the beginning of far worse realities to come.

    • Steven Steven

      “This is a special list”

      Very true SP, and I’ve been thinking about why. Most common interest groups have just one thing in common, which – let’s face it – generally isn’t enough. So I reasoned that either:

      1. There are multiple common interests involved
      (possibly correct but I suspect this is actually a secondary effect of the real reason, see below).

      or my favourite:

      2. It’s not about common interest; rather a heightened sense of awareness and compassion.

      I’m fairly sure that currency is good wherever we go from here.

    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      No problem, you have a very good reason to not be at your best mood. I hope good news comes to you.

  • @ Nelson,
    Many of us here have shelter for families of Japan who wish to leave, please inform them they have places to go if they can get here ! Have them get in touch with us here with details of size of families so we can assist effectively !

    • larry-andrew-nils


      i need painter/ drywaller types

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        NOT funny

        • larry-andrew-nils

          well, can’t we make a website so i can hook up with a painter/drywaller type to live in my home?

          it’s only because i burned my kitchen three weeks ago and have some painting to do.

          i’m not some kind of contractor looking for slave-labour. lol

          but seriously, there are probably many painter/drywaller types of people in radiated areas who would love to come and start off canadian living with me.

          perhaps even one who likes marijuana… (because i smoke it every day)

          i need that website.
          i know i could get hooked up with the right person or people.

          i know i could help them and why can’t i have a choice. i don’t want a family here.

  • larry-andrew-nils

    morning has BROKEN.

  • Kodama’s centre, using 27 facilities to measure radiation across the country, has been closely monitoring the situation at Fukushima – and their findings are alarming. …
    According to Dr Kodama, the total amount of radiation released over a period of more than five months from the ongoing Fukushima nuclear disaster is the equivalent to more than 29 “Hiroshima-type atomic bombs” and the amount of uranium released “is equivalent to 20” Hiroshima bombs. …
    August 21, 2011

  • Too often with Grace, Clarity comes to our heart with the blurring of tears through our sight !


  • StillJill StillJill

    Whoopie, love your new name for huff, fluff! Right up my alley!

  • [Don’t let your children go to school]

    Posted by Mochizuki on August 22nd, 2011
    Yokogawa Kei Yuki

    Yokohama lunch of beef is 100% Fukushima Prefecture at least two months gone dressers do. I think then, immigration. Well, my family went to Hokkaido, but. RT @ bcxxx: you say it’s overkill are shifted only. RT @ Kino_from_Tokyo: while clearly overkill in the… What is it? it’s not that. To avoid radiation purposely moved from Tokyo to Kansai, as against only the husband or divorce crisis. Child’s school to make unreasonable demands I getting vivid.

    In Yokohama,they kept serving Fukushima beef for longer than 2 months.100% of beef was from Fukushima.

  • bmurr bmurr

    I bring this stuff up at work and not only are people unaware, but they think I’m crazy, or just don’t care…. this is traggic

  • Go here to read the lasted from the peoples of Japan,

  • Sickputer

    Must read:

    […] First I would like to invite everyone to a parade. In this parade we invite everyone from the nuclear industry and all the governmental agencies involved. It is time for us to give them our thanks and well wishes for threatening all life on earth.

    In times past the most beastly monsters were the priests standing on top of the Aztec pyramids waiting with knives to cut the hearts out of prisoners, one after another, all day long, and the river of blood would run. We could actually argue all day or have a contest for worst monster-of-the-year award and look back in time to see our history full of mean, despicable men.

    Having a China Syndrome in Fukushima promises us bad times for a long time to come.

    It promises a river of our children’s blood and that blood flow is already flowing through children’s noses, as certain doctors have reported in Japan and as certain doctors noticed during the Gulf oil disaster. […]

  • [Gov’s data is all fake]

    Posted by Mochizuki on August 22nd, 2011

    You don’t need to read Japanese. I just want you to see how many ND (Not detectable) are on the data of gov ,though private institution detects so much radiation from variety of agricultural products from North Japan.

    Fukushima and radioactivity measurement of citizens groups ” ” ” tools ” defend themselves voluntarily measuring and equipped with the knowledge of radiation protection, every single person judge themselves for providing third-party organization as established and radioactivity measurements of food and are published in the site. Pollution situation of various foods are published on this site is pretty high, is a situation which vegetables well across the Board discovered caesium is.
    For example,

  • shaktasna999

    The Japanese have one more card to play.

    Enact a full work stoppage Japanese people. The sick have nothing left to lose. Stop working and bankrupt Japan into acknowledging you.

    Americans a day off taken to show solidarity would be lovely.

    The Japanese government can lie to the mainstream news but they cannot lie to their stockholders.

    Crash their economy by stopping the incoming cash.

  • [It’s not hay.It’s water]

    Posted by Mochizuki on August 22nd, 2011

    It’s proved that water is contaminated,not hey.
    They compared cows eating the same hay.The egesta of cow from Namie cho contained 2,256Bq/kg,but cows from other places contained only 145~147Bq/kg.
    The only difference is water.


  • [Boycott coop]
    Posted by Mochizuki on August 22nd, 2011

    Coop,one of the major retailing chain,has decided to obey the regulation of gov,which is obviously harmful for your health.
    I recommend you not to buy from coop.
    Look at section 2.


  • Kindergarten, nursery from cesium = maximum 27000 Bq-tokamachi, Niigata


     The tokamachi city, Niigata Prefecture 22, from the city’s kindergarten and nursery grounds, 1 kilogram maximum announced 27000 Bq of radioactive cesium was detected. To seal the detection location near impacting outside the city to aid you. County or country and are discussing how to handle.
     From the sludge collected rainwater reservoir for vessel location according to the City Bowl one kindergarten in grass and leaves were gathered and one nursery have discovered a caesium 27000 becquerel per 1 kilo and 18900 Bq.
     Reclaimed exceeds 8000 Bq per 1 kilo in the country about the disaster waste incineration ash guidelines cannot be processed. City you shall apply to this guideline.
     1 M above ground space radiation of both garden and also number was within a normal range. ( 08 / 22 / 2011-18: 05 pm )

  • lam335 lam335

    The depleted uranium video is called Uranio 238 (documental)–it’s in English, despite the name of the video.

  • Thanks everyone for all the great links.

    Does anyone have an opinion on the China syndrome and Arnie’s latest interview.

    Arnie is hesitant to accept that the core has left the building but we have commented on this quite a bit and yesterday someone posted a list of links (I’m sorry I cannot recall who but I’ll check and acknowledge their contribution)

    reactions to his video? http://www.fairewinds.com/content/new-data-supports-previous-fairewinds-analysis-contamination-spreads-japan-and-worldwide

    • Jebus is the source for the list of fukushima china syndrome links. here is what Jebus wrote yesterday

       The nuclear fuel in three of the reactors at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant has melted through the base of the pressure vessels and is pooling in the outer containment vessels, according to a report by the Japanese government.

      ‘Melt-through’ at Fukushima? / Govt report to IAEA suggests situation worse than meltdown
      Nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant has possibly melted through pressure vessels and accumulated at the bottom of outer containment vessels, according to a government report obtained Tuesday
      Fukushima – China Syndrome – The Worst Case Scenario
      The China Syndrome — The worst case scenario — where nuclear fuel penetrates the earth and pollutes the groundwater is happening at Fukushima.
      TEPCO has acknowledged they just ‘discovered’ over 6,400 spent fuel rods in a basement beneath Fukushima which is shared by all reactors at the plant. TEPCO has confirmed a groundwater leak in the basement.

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Thanks for reposting Jebus comment Majia. I put that comment under (mine) Arnies video post. I THINK IT’S LEFT THE BLD but understand Arnie wanting more data 1st. He probably KNOWS but has to hold off for more data.

    • Sickputer

      Maija typed these pixels of light:

      >reactions to his video?


      SP: We know Arnie does speculate a bit at times, but he draws the line at the runaway coriums which is uncharted foreign territory for everyone…nuclear engineers and average Joe Citizen.

      Since corium has become such a taboo word for Tepco and they seem intent on avoiding mention of it. This invisible nuclear elephant which is either still in the building or out of it (probably downward as someone mentioned the sheer weight means gravity may be at play here…it may not “flow” to the sea, but instead keep burning a hole in the earth.

      I will freely speculate they have overhead thermal imaging devices from the United States that is detecting the signature of the massive nuclear chunk and they know where it is and how deep they have gone (all three).

      Perhaps it will drill down and down until it hits the methane ice layer 2 kilometers below the plant…chilling thought indeed. How long that would take is subject to scientific debate and once again if they have thermals they have a better idea than me.

      Just for the sake of discussion 2 km is 6500 feet. If the corium burned through 2 feet a day it would take 9 years to reach the methane ice.

      But oil drillers go down 18,000 feet in a matter of months…can a chunk that burns so very hot match that speed or nearly as fast? Perhaps. In that case maybe it burns through 10 feet a day and would reach a methane layer in less than a couple of years. It’s easy to speculate when it’s not your paying job, eh?

      Perhaps they should be drilling an exploratory well hole a few hundred feet away from the reactors just to see what is down there to 10,000 feet. But nobody at Tepco is smart enough to do that…if they were they would have already started…right?

      ….Or maybe there is no methane layer below Fukushima as indicated by this 2004 survey:


      What’s interesting about the methane hydrate layers is that the oil drillers used to avoid them like the plague and there is some indication that methane caused the massive Deep Horizon oil rig blowout in the Gulf of Mexico….


      Anyway…back to the corium…even before it would have a chance to China Syndrome down to blow half the world away at the methane layer (if it exists) we know there is probably a lot of water in cracks and fissures under the plant…maybe enough to really make a big hydrovolcanic explosion that could decimate The Island of Good Fortune.

      My last comment deals with Arnie’s last few words in which he said the nuclear crisis at Fukushima is “fixable”. That is an optimistic viewpoint I don’t share, but then my views on “fixing” Fukushima involve blowing the coriums into the Pacific Ocean before they have a chance to drill down and destroy the Northern Hemisphere or maybe even the world.

      One term I really took away from Arto Lauri’s frightening video is the “inextinquishable fire”. Those two words should never be uttered in conjunction with runaway coriums.

      If that is true then maybe Germany really did stop their MOX fuel reactors after March 11 because of that chilling fear (my question to BnB is were they all MOX reactors in that first wave of stoppage?).

      We are so concerned about the approaching 400 Sieverts of reactor 1 ( http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1 ) that we forget about good old Number 3, the MOX reactor from Hell.

      What kind of damage does it have in store as it maneuvers to a date with destiny beneath the soil of Fukushima Daiichi?

      And what about Reactor Number 4 and the video and pictures NEVER released of its explosion? Maybe the new heat exchangers have done some good there, but will they hold up if a major earthquake hits again?

      It would be nice to have some more news about the spent fuel rod ponds, but they are quickly moving to the back burner.

      Yes, everyone at Tepco avoids the taboo word corium but we know those blobs have some bad things in store for Japan. Keep the faith though…maybe they are fixable.

      • Scary, scary, scary.


      • Not to argue but why hasn’t all the volcanoes ever had a problem with the methane ice layer as they burn and surface from within the earth to reach the surface ??
        Ah some hope we won’t be scraped off heavenly body surfaces !

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        I have copied my typing which is on the first page of discussion thread Aug 15-21. From the video, between the methane clutter and reactor #4 a channel was exploded around March 14. The corium must have reached that far down some time ago:

        “First the reactor 1 exploded. After few days the reactor 3 exploded. At this point, as the rock foundation was tectonically active, the energy from the explosions went to the rockbed. Under Japan, about 2 kilometers deep there is methane-gas-clutter which is methane in a form of ice. It is based on the sensitive balance of pressure, the temperature has to be about 2 degrees celcius. The impact hit there. Under the reactors the leakage of neutron had drilled deep holes or pipes into the rock formation. The methane-clutter under reactor 4 increased 168-times in volume. This is the theory of Nils Axel Mo”rner. And it exploded in a second coming up trought [sic] the pipe with huge speed. It hit the reactor 4, which was stopped and contained no uranium, thus everyone wondered why it even exploded. Pictures were never shown anywhere and the public wasn’t told about this. I’ve seen a picture where a 14-meter-thick concrete wall had exploded because of the massive impact. The methane-clutter came at a cosmic speed creating a blue one kilometer high flame trogh [sic] the reactor. It made a lane of half a kilometer in diameter under the reactors. 15 minutes after the reactor 3 had exploded the reactor 2 suffered damage exploding. The whole chain of reactors exploded like this. “

      • lam335 lam335

        ‘One term I really took away from Arto Lauri’s frightening video is the “inextinquishable fire”.’

        Do you have a link for this video?

  • lam335 lam335

    Re: Arnie Gundersen’s new video:

    I had been under the impression that the ventilation system in the tent would filter the air before releasing it into the atmosphere, but Gundersen’s discussion makes it sound as if it is just going to be sent up the chimney, so to speak, without any attempt to reduce its level of contamination. Does any body know if this is a correct understanding? It won’t be surprising if it is, but it is disappointing and, frankly, a further outrage vis-a-vis the rest of the population and planet.

    • I don’t think there is a plausible way of filtering out the levels of radiation being released.

      Chris Busby stated that plant emissions were reported to the Japanesen Prime Minister by Tepco to be 10 to the 13 becquerels per hour.

    • Bobby1

      They are supposed to filter out the radioactive particles from the buildings.

      “The cover will stand 177 feet high and be 154 long with a roof that can be opened to give cranes access to the interior. It will also be fitted with filters that will gradually scrub the air inside the building of radioactivity, enabling workers to enter the plant.”


      The technology exists to do this. I read somewhere that the smallest particles were 0.3 microns, the air filter in my house filters down to 0.003 microns.

      Arnie might be right though, they might be too cheap to install the filters.

      • They will vent it through stack’s that will put it high into the air making it safer for the workers on site but pooping more on the rest of the world with radioactive waste into the sky’s !

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          @xdrfox…yep..a cosmetic fix..nuclear fission in this amount cannot be contained.
          The amount of local geological disurbance is not going to allow for ..this “fix”.
          These stacks….are like a facade old Western town…a false front…but since radiation is invisible…they assume this will appease the public.
          LOL..I can’t belive I am even contemplating this..it’s a scientific impossibility.

      • lam335 lam335

        re: Bobby: Thanks. I think that is probably the article that had put that idea into my head. I sure hope they genuinely filter it before release, but given their track record–and the repeated failures of their water filtration system(s)–I don’t feel very optimistic. Gundersen is one of the best sources of info (and expert judgment) that we have, and he doesn’t seem optimistic either.

        • Bobby1

          I hope they filter it, too. There is no Plan B.

          • Bobby1

            They should work as well as the water filter purification machines !

            : |

          • Bobby1

            There have been intermittent criticalities in the corium. That means it is NOT cooling down.

            Fuku will be emitting radionuclides for CENTURIES. If they don’t filter it, it will eventually destroy all life on earth.

            The same idiots that caused the problem are the ones who have been designated to fix it.

            Like it or not, this is what we are stuck with.

          • I’m curious Bobby1 on what your take is on Sickputer’s analysis above.

            very concerning in addition to the ongoing poisoning of our planet…

            by the way, your analyses are excellent and i wish i could give you proper citation credit….

          • clarification–citation credit on your excess mortality analyses

          • Whoopie Whoopie

            “Say it ain’t so Bobby.
            Sh11t!!! THIS IS A GAME CHANGER FOR SURE!!
            What’s the solution? ANY AT ALL?!?!?

        • Bobby1

          Like I said, they’ve got to filter it.

          What they need to do to take care of the criticalities is to inject boron into the corium. But it is so radioactive that neither man nor robot can get anywhere near enough to do this. Plus it’s already underground.

          They need to make tents over not only the reactors, but since steam is now coming out of the ground, cover the whole site.

          Any the filters might need to be changed every day. There will have to be an huge disposal facility in Mongolia or somewhere to dump these filters underground.

          And not only will this generation have to do this, but our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren… and our great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren.

          This is the best-case scenario.

          • lam335 lam335

            re: “What they need to do to take care of the criticalities is to inject boron into the corium. But it is so radioactive that neither man nor robot can get anywhere near enough to do this. Plus it’s already underground.”

            Why couldn’t they dig down lower than where the molten fuel is, if they know where it is, and put a large amount of boron in its path?

            The Soviets dug underneath the Chernobyl reactor to reinforce the weakening structure and prevent the melting fuel from hitting the pool of water underneath. Why not do a similar thing, but in order to position boron where the fuel is likely to go? Wouldn’t the radiation exposure be less bad deep under ground where a lot of dirt separates workers or robots from the fuel, compared to levels in the open air?

          • Bobby1

            Professor Koide said they need to build an underground concrete wall to keep the corium and contaminated water from reaching the sea. This needs to happen too.

            If you knew where the corium was, you’re right, put boron and lead under it so it falls right onto it. This is probably the only feasible solution. Otherwise it will eat through the concrete even if it’s 20 feet thick.

            It is a huge and very expensive project, which will take lots of manpower, and brains which seem in short supply.

      • Sickputer

        Yes, but look at the Arevaderchi water filters..heard much about them lately? Those filter towers have been pulling in cesium sludge that clogs up filters so badly and I don’t think they will be any more successful with air pollution, but I could be wrong.

        Also…the condition of the Spent fuel ponds in reactors 1 through 4 and the Common Fuel Pond building also may require filtering if they begin to smolder again (or maybe they haven’t stopped).

        So big tents are needed everywhere, and big filters are needed everywhere while three coriums are belching radioactive killer steam through fissures popping up everywhere. It’s a damn firefighters nightmare to contain.

        The idea of placing multiple reactors in a one square mile area is now looking like the worst act of architectural design in mankind’s history, far surpassing the Maginot Line and any chemical plant or oil field design that ever failed.

        • lam335 lam335

          “The idea of placing multiple reactors in a one square mile area is now looking like the worst act of architectural design in mankind’s history, far surpassing the Maginot Line and any chemical plant or oil field design that ever failed.”

          Not just poor planning–hubris, recognized since ancient times as the precursor and cause of tragedy.

        • Posted 2 links together on last Discussion Thread thread, other day !
          one said it was working the other said not so:
          whom to believe ?

          This was on France one and other, together they were not doing so hot with amounts water cleaned !

  • ‘A Time To Break Silence’ – from speech

    “A time comes when silence is betrayal.”

    “We are now faced with the fact, my friends, that tomorrow is today. We are confronted with the fierce urgency of now. In this unfolding conundrum of life and history, there is such a thing as being too late.”

    “Procrastination is still the thief of time. Life often leaves us standing bare, naked, and dejected with a lost opportunity. The tide in the affairs of men does not remain at flood… it ebbs. We may cry out desperately for time to pause in her passage, but time is adamant to every plea and rushes on. Over the bleached bones and jumbled residues of numerous civilizations are written the pathetic words, ‘Too late.'” – Martin Luther King April 4th, 1967 NYC

    He was actually talking about Vietnam, but the words apply to today in my opinion.

  • zapped zapped

    For a few years now, been watching events unfold and the idea some have had that they can do something about saving our planet…nyet!!Ain’t gonna happen.People check out the stats on Ecocide and extinctions of other species currently on going at increasing rates, bats and bees disappearing, acidification of our oceans etc.This stuff has been going on for a while now.We lost the equilibrium awhile back and there is/was no turning back.Thats the sad truth.
    Add Monsanto,the nuclear, oil industries, fracking, mountain top mining not to forget wars and DU and people…we stood not a chance.
    So,I for one will not be obsessing about this one event,if it accelerates the proccess,I am NOT the least surprised..truly.So acting all so teary eyed aint gonna cut it..question ..did YOU not know.Once you wise up to that just develop a cohesive community on here on survival skills..leave you comfort zones..what to eat..and how to detox..really a new way of being..as to the future…there was never one.Lets keep the real stats coming not just extrapolations..we know that already.Yeah if Helen Caldicott is leaving BC then why would anyone in Japan or west coast Americas etc think the can lead a normal life..from here goin’ forward?
    p/s To all the mean gals on here..this isn’t high school anymore seeing as you all are realiyt gaga about stuff..like OMG

  • zapped zapped

    On the same theme..somewhat..

    The Get Lost Generation…By Malcolm Harris

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    Tragedy in Japan. First an immensely powerful earthquake, followed by a devastating tsunami, and now possible core meltdowns at nuclear power plants.
    Today we need to stand together and help our fellow human beings. Because this tragedy highlights how fragile life on earth is, and how connected every one of us is to each other.
    That is why we believe that opening our hearts and our pocketbooks is not enough.
    We need to open our homes to those in Japan wanting or needing to escape the threat of nuclear poisoning. …

  • moonkai

    Hi there … I am glad you guys like the video. yes a bit long but I had to put so much in it !

    I created a petition that coincide with the video. I beg you to sign it.


    The purpose of this video is to raise awareness to people in a “coma”. So please spread it around! I am already being contacted by the press about this video! As I mentioned earlier, I sent it directly to PM Kan … we’ll what comes of it! The response is pretty good on the net. Daily motion itself recorded 4020 views in less than 30 hours ! However, Daily motion has annoying adds attached to it if you view it from the US … so I uploaded one on Youtube


    A lot more is coming for Evacuate Fukushima. We are fighting back here in Tokyo and Fukushima ! Time to spread the truth.

    Stay all safe!