Published: October 12th, 2012 at 1:31 am ET
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Title: Noda lauds work to ease reactor 4 fuel threat; fears remain
Source: The Japan Times Online
Authors: REIJI YOSHIDA and KAZUAKI NAGATA
Date: Thursday, Oct. 11, 2012
In an interview Friday with The Japan Times, Lower House lawmaker Sumio Mabuchi, who headed a project to reinforce the reactor 4 building, declined comment on the structure’s current quake-resistance since he hasn’t seen the latest data from Tepco or the government.
But Mabuchi — who served as special adviser to then-Prime Minister Naoto Kan at the very height of the nuclear crisis from March to June 2011 — also pointed out that his team had originally considered a more drastic measure to reinforce the building: plugging every available space on the lower floors with concrete.
“The reinforcement steps (adopted) were a first-aid measure, and I kept saying we should buttress the building with permanent measures” instead, said Mabuchi, a member of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan.
“We believed (flooding the reactor 4 building) with concrete was necessary as a permanent measure, and held discussions about the subject,” he said. “But right now, I don’t have any knowledge of current conditions.”
But the government eventually gave up on the proposal because it would have taken about a year to complete the work and aftershocks as high as magnitude 7 were repeatedly rocking the No. 1 plant at the time.
Published: October 12th, 2012 at 1:31 am ET
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As the building is already sinking in the floor, wouldn't this option just make it heavier?
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That's a good idea. Big blocky buttresses all the way up to the fuel pool, so that even with subsiding the bloody thing won't fall.
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In the middle of a busy highway, a powerful 6-cylinder Fuku-1 sports model car suddenly stops, causing a huge traffic jam. The driver of the car gets out, as heavy smokes rises from the car's motor. Angry people yell: "get your car out of the way, call the police!" The driver replies: "don't anyone touch this baby: I'm the legitimate owner, and I have a valid driver's licence, and here I got a bottle of mineral water, a screwdriver and a hammer; I'm the only one qualified for the job and I'm going to fix it and I don't need no police or mechanic, you people just shut up and wait or just walk home if you don't like it!"
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i'll help.. here's some duct tape ..
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Only problem? He forgot his baling wire and duct tape…
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Tomorrow when the Discount store opens, he'll get a flashlight so he can read the instrument panel so he knows what went wrong
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From the tsunami and earth quake on march 11th, unit 4 building is generally not strong. Because of its hydrogen explosion.
TEPCO have to strength the unit 4, because of the uncertainty that unit 4 has.
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Japan CAN NOT is not a Decision making country. Yes,No,Yes,No they Can't decide on what to do when it is right in front of them.
Mark
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Flooding the building with concrete, the dead weight would just crack the building in half while it helped sink the building faster at the same time.
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You're right. TEPCO have to reinforcement construction for unit 4 right now.
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Perhaps boron can be added to whatever concrete they use, but do not know how that may effect the integrity. Had thought of additional boron from the beginning, but I alone on that, apparently.
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Arnie Gundersen agreed with you and he was ignored, too. He said dig a trench underneath and around the whole site and fill it with boron.
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patb2009 had the idea of building lead buckets for transporting the fuel rods and getting to it now rather than later. Maybe a lead lined steel and concrete bowl could be constructed all around unit 4 that could be flooded with boron and water should the pool collapse.
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I think the best thing for Unit 4 is get the pool empty.
That means putting up cranes, lifting fuel asssmblies out, and then getting them into transport vessels and moving them inland say 20 KM, where you can handle them better.
Now, i would suggest getting them into buckets on the top deck, so, they can be handled fast, but, you can also just crane them down to ground level.
As long as you can keep some water on them so they don't burst into flames, and, you can get tehm flooded.
Tepco did pulla few bundles out of the SFP 4, so, scale up and get them all out. THen when unit 4 collapses, it won't matter so much.
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It may be impossible to remove the fuel rod assemblies if they bonded to one another during the zirconium fires.
They may be stuck to each other or to the liner. Conversely melting may have helped the strength of the steel liner. Big mess and dangerous for thousands of years. The nucleocrats di fairly well when nuclear plants just leak radioactive water and steam. But cleaning up a meltdown is not in their purview.
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What would Mother GE do … them that designed this sucker … (and who fired three in-house engineers who realized in early 1970's that Mark I containments were flimsy and couldn't withstand dynamic loads which would result from a loss of coolant accident (LOCA in Toothless Toady parlance)) … ???
…?
…?
…?
apparently nothing … nada … niente … …
overpaid, corrupt, cynical, suicidal, genocidal bastard shill scum
Oh Mother GE … we have loved you … and you have killed us all … without compunction … without mercy … without a kind word … how is this corporation not Josef Mengele, Inc.???
oh, what a world, what a world …
peace …
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I don't know if this is legit or a CYA maneuver because its about to fall….not sure.
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Radioactive Beach In Guarapari, Brazil; via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/radioactive-beach-sand-in-brazil.html
The Art of Deception: The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science; via A Green Road
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/primer-in-art-of-deception-cult-of.html
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/12/us-japan-nuclear-idUKBRE89B0XK20121012
The new flood of articles states that TEPCO admits that it could have prevented the Fukushima event if it had heeded warnings and taken precautions. Looks to me like another dodge to state that the earthquake did no damage to the plant. They want to avoid the earthquake issue at all costs.
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I'm in complete agreement with you on this Dosdos
The claim that the disaster is "ALL Tepco's fault" is aimed at making OTHER nuke plants look safe.
The little lie to protect the big lie.
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