Jiji: No solution seen for Fukushima’s radioactive water — Kyodo: Toxic ocean leakage to go on into 2020s — Experts: “High potential for marine life and human health effects through ingestion over generations”

Published: December 16th, 2013 at 4:33 pm ET
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Jiji Press, Dec. 16, 2013: No Solution in Sight for Fukushima N-Plant Tainted Water [...] No solution is in sight as [Tepco] struggles with ever-increasing amounts of radioactive water [...] The situation has improved little in the [past] six months [...] very high-level radioactive water has been detected under the ground [...] TEPCO detected 1.8 million becquerels of radioactive materials per liter of water collected on Thursday from an observation well some 40 meters from the seawall, the highest on record.

Kyodo News, Dec. 11, 2013: A government panel [...] estimated that the utility will not be able to fully address the risks of water leaks by the end of fiscal 2020. [...] “If measures are taken smoothly, a large part of the risks (posed by leaks from tanks) will be reduced around the end of fiscal 2020, but the amount of toxic water could surpass the tank storage capacity depending on the situation…and risks associated with keeping a large amount of tritium-water will remain,” the report said.

Estimate of Consequences from the Fukushima Disaster, Nordic PSA Conference (nuclear utilities in Finland and Sweden), September 2011: Some estimates of contamination of ocean waters were performed [...] More than 1.1e17 Bq [110 quadrillion becquerels] of Cs137 in total is estimated to have been released into the ocean. With respect to bio-accumulation and weighting factors for fish and other sea fauna a long-term cycle can be expected and high potential for marine life, sea-birds and human health effects through ingestion over generations.

See also: Releasing Fukushima radioactive water into Pacific 'inevitable' -- Reports: Japan very aware of danger posed by past releases; Contaminants are concentrated thousands of times in food chain; At end of chain are humans "who may suffer genetic damage, cancer, other health problems and even death"

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41 comments to Jiji: No solution seen for Fukushima’s radioactive water — Kyodo: Toxic ocean leakage to go on into 2020s — Experts: “High potential for marine life and human health effects through ingestion over generations”

  • own_quality

    The water hitting the US west coast within just a few months will already be much more contaminated than the peak of atmospheric testing. Then the contamination will go a magnitude higher in a few more years as the even more massively contaminated water pouring into the pacific every day hits the coast. Anyone living within a few miles of the coast is going to see evacuation levels of radiation every day… for the next 100 years. Better sell your homes now because in another year or two you won't be able to give them away.

    This is going to be beyond anyone's worst nightmare and that's even if everything goes as well as possible – which it certainly will not. Nothing can stop this. It's already in the water and more is pouring in every second. When this news reaches the masses there will be absolute panic.

    I'm in Colorado and getting ready to sell our home in Denver and in the Mountains. If I had been living on the coast, I would already be gone. I'm considering farmland in Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina. At least we'll be relatively safe there for another few decades.


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    • digitalaardvarks

      they are already getting high radiation numbers in brazil and uruguay. you may not be safe there for another few decades. google it.


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    • And don't forget the mutations being caused by the billions of becquerels of radionuclides being dumped into the pacific ocean every day by nuclear.

      "In the long term more human and animal life may die from the indirect effects of the radioactive contamination…from virus mutations."

      In other words, the pacific ocean could become a witches brew of mutated life forms–viruses, bacteria, fungi, plankton, etc. Logic dictates that these new life forms will not stay in the ocean. They'll be spread onto land by fish, birds, animals, insects…including those that migrate between the southern and northern hemispheres.

      There is no escape. There can be no escape.


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  • SS4U SS4U

    so despite the toll on human and marine life, they poisoning of our children's Pacific Ocean will continue……..

    are we the only ones outraged ?


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  • own_quality

    Remember, with Chernobyl the worst was over in a few weeks. with Fuku, we have an ongoing disaster that has gotten a magnitude worse in less than 3 years and will be at least another magnitude worse in another 3 years… and so on. There isn't even a plan to reduce the growth of this disaster, much less a plan to mitigate it.


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  • vital1

    Again they only talk about Cesium and Iodine-131, and leave out any discussion of the numerous other toxic isotopes also being released continuously into the Atmosphere and Pacific Ocean.

    Bio-accumulations is going to be a major issue, but another major issue that is not discussed is the effect all this is having on human and animal population immune systems.

    Immune system weakening could lead to epidemics or pandemics in human, and animal populations. Hence the large number of reported animal die offs in the press recently.

    There are a lot of animals presently dying in large numbers from strange
    infections worldwide. Star fish, fish, Seals, turtles and birds etc., are just a few I have heard about.

    Virus infections may be killing them because their immune systems
    have been weakened from the radiation contamination in the first place.

    We could equally see pandemics in the human population, or epidemics like the pneumonia epidemic in Japan in 2011 as a results of these dynamics.

    In the long term more human and animal life may die from the indirect effects of the radioactive contamination, as a result of the weakened immune systems, or from virus mutations.


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  • Gasser Gasser

    Andy Williams: Call Me Irresponsible

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o1NjF9rpGxY

    ~~~~~~~

    Call the NRC irresponsible
    
Call them unreliable

    Throw in undependable, too.

    Do their foolish alibis bore you?

    Well, their not too clever

    They just Nuclear radiated you.

    Call BWR's unpredictable
    
Tell them their impractical
    
Nuclear reactors, their inclined to pursue.

    Call them irresponsible
    
Yes, Nuclear reactors are unreliable
    
But it's undeniably true
    
That their irresponsibly contaminating you.

    Go on and call them unpredictable

    Tell NRC that their impractical

    Boiling Water Reactors, they are inclined to pursue.

    You go ahead protest them as irresponsible

    You all know NRC is unreliable

    And it is undeniably true

    That the NRC is irresponsibly killing all of you.

    ~Gasser Classic~


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  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    “High potential for marine life and human health effects through ingestion over generations”

    No, a couple of years is about all it's going to take. You shouldn't count on anything past that. We've all ingested plenty already.


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      This statement confirms why I have stated that most cancers found in our world today are a reflection of Nuclear Radiation Contamination ingestion/exposures. These Nuke Puke boys and girls have been sneaking around for over 60 years spreading this Radiation Pollution all over the globe and most of it in secrecy.

      This fact alone means this entire industry must be shut down immediately..worldwide.:)

      The only reason they got away with this was the invisible, odorless, tasteless and no liability if caught by any civil authority and/or government. Top Secret does not cut it anymore! :(

      The people operating behind the scenes can not be trusted to do what is right, so all their Nuke Puke toys must all be taken away.. :(

      This must be done quickly and right now! Time to wake up the dumbed down on purpose.. World!


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  • jump-ball

    I want a U.S. president who will deal harshly in not allowing Japan to dump their contamination into our Pacific and our atmosphere, who can freely throw around words like EMBARGO and BLOCKADE, even if we have to replace the president we have.


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      You are so hopeful and you really think the President has such powers concerning the Nuclear Cabal.


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      • We Not They Finally

        "P" used to stand for POTUS Now it stands for Puppet. Who's actually in charge? Replacing the President probably won't help.

        Even Eisenhower did not give his famous "military-industrial complex" speech until three days before the next guy stepped in. Possibly because (it's been speculated) even though he had been a five-star general in WWII, he was kept out of the loop and powerless.

        Whoever is jerking Obama's strings would probably be thrilled to have political chaos, and we would still get nothing constructive out of it. It would not restore democracy.


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      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        Is the problem hopelessness, complicity, or lack of desire?

        It seems to me there is very little a POTUS could not accomplish if he was willing to hunker down away from assassins, roll up his sleeves, and start arresting folks.

        Putin only had to put one billionaire in a cage.


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    • rakingmuck

      I am so sorry to break the news – not going to happen. We are going to become more of a police state than we already are. I have a bet with someone that the 2014 elections will be the lowest turn out in history. No one trusts what we call our government anymore – whether red or blue.


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  • nuknomore nuknomore

    Of course its going to go on for years.. We have never had a way to store radioactive waste. Nuclear plants have never been safe and the waste has never had a safe place to be stored.
    It is one of those things that has been shoved aside.. To be dealt with later.. And here we are in a world altering disaster and we have no way to fix it..
    Nuclear power should never have been done, cause a mistake would be unimaginable and beyond our ability to solve.
    And yet, here we are~!:(

    Its mind boggling..~!
    What greed and stupidity can cause.


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  • We Not They Finally

    What's frustrating is that they keep acting like it's the WATER that's the problem. It's what continues to fission, and massively contaminate all the water flowing through to the sea exponentially. Like maybe three melted-through coriums which will now never NOT contaminate the onrushing water?

    It's a whole room full of elephants out there.


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  • vital1

    We have to do more than just comment in these forums.The more people we educate the sooner change will happen.

    Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is
    quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute
    the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it,
    Twitter it, or email it. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put it into letter boxes when you go for a walk.

    http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf


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  • Daisy207

    At what point does the lack of transparency and secrecy of not only our government but Japan elevate to environmental terrorism – how dead does the Pacific have to be and how many dead bodies and deformed children will it take? Where or where is homeland security???


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    • rakingmuck

      There is a solution for this that no one mentions. The Maritime Division of the ICC takes cases like this. They have become much more active over the past few years. It would take a brave lawyer to stand up both to Japan and the USA as they are inter-related and equally culpable.


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      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        This case is a fools errand for a private attorney without the favor of at least one powerful faction on the international stage.

        If things get bad enough for real change, what these paid liars need to know is that the people will make them personally carry water in the cleanup effort. At some point enough dead babies tends to wake the masses.


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        • rakingmuck

          Agree.At some point one (me) has to face reality. Living on the West Coast I have been dosed enough for a lifetime. I have, if I am lucky, maybe 3 years until diagnosed with breast cancer – probably less as it runs in my family. I am tired of fighting. I am laying my sword down and going to try to find some comfort, some peace as to do otherwise is to rob my soul of the beauty of life for as long as it is mine to behold.


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          • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

            That seems like a plume of drivel. If you're serious, you're being defeatist. You haven't been diagnosed? And you're already acting terminal!

            Anyway, the solution is not a lawsuit at the ICC, overrun as it is by spies, unless some of them are in one's corner. The question with spooks always if they're really interested in change, or just pretending to help, playing both sides, and hedging because they were knee deep creating the problems to begin with. A fig leaf and an olive branch to cover their pensions. They know what might happen when oil production starts to dry up and the WTI, Brent, and ASCI price controls at the ICE and the Platts Window fail: At a 20:1 (lowball average) EROEI, oil goes from being priced around a 2 to being priced around a 10, in a true arms length transaction, without price controls, and without growing supplies to keep it down. That means gasoline jumps 5X.

            The solution is political change, probably requiring a change in the paradigm of cheap oil and money printing, a paradigm that makes some countries like US rich, but backed by the implied threat of nuclear force. Problem is without that paradigm, western wealth and third world poverty will find some unhappy medium. There is no real political will for that sacrifice. Starts with the people, but it's easier for people to ignore the problem, as they do know, than admit to themselves they'd rather keep the money machine rolling and take their chances down the road. . .


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    That is a very good question? Following orders.. no doubt.


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  • ftlt

    Are any of you surprised???… From the first day's reports on the units that they were clearly in trouble and then we saw them blowup – we all knew what was coming…

    I would think, most here all knew this was going to be the final outcome – total meltdown and ongoing endless disaster…

    That Chernobyl was somewhat??? mitigated and isolated (even forgetting the untruths) made most people believe this could somehow be dealt with… It gave even the experts a false sense of faith in an outcome for FUFU that would never be really bad for very long… Boy, were they wrong..

    Well, it is now clear this is not going to mitigated or isolated anytime soon – if ever..

    Yet, that there is no mass anti nuclear outcry in Asia or North America or the rest of the world, only points to how much trouble the world around us really is in..

    The world's population has been turned into a bunch of zombies…

    We're screwed… And not just by FUFU and the nuclear industry..

    Everything around us is going to total poopoo…


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    • deaddolphins simonhhh

      I'm afraid but you are "deadly" right…Unit 3 is just one of the real worries here…high grade military MOX 30-35%plutonium…as I understand about 280 tons blown to bits coupled with total melt down creating molten corium…add fresh/salt water then creating 100's of the nastiest toxic isotopes [demon babies etc]…1000's of years half lives…the worst most hideous shit storm imaginable… everything living on the planet will ultimately be affected…yeah "total poopoo"


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  • KiloCharley KiloCharley

    List of GE Mark 1 reactors in the US. Think it can't happen here?

    http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/gemk1reactorsinus.pdf


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  • Jakobi Jakobi

    "ACCORDING TO DR. CHRISTOPHER BUSBY, SCIENCE SECRETARY OF ECRR (European Committee on Radiation Risk) –>> Supplements for the body human: for adult 800 mg Calcium/ 350 mg Magnesium – blocks absorption of radionuclides strontium, plutonium and cesium. The ratio is important (webmed recomends even higher amounts of calcium, just remember to keep the ratio calcium/magnesium, and D3 helps with calcium absorption. (about half that for a 10 year old child)PLUS antioxidants and minerals micro-minerals… What I do: Vitamin C, 3-5 grams aka 3,000 – 5,000mg/day and B-complex, Antioxidants: A, E, D3…. broad array of Minerals. (Mousseau, Chernobyl, Bird studies: anti-oxidants help the body remain more resilient to the effects of contaminants.)"

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/marushka-france/combating-radiation-clean-food-and-water-6-steps-fukushima-no-more/10151860147986649


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  • RonM

    since it now appears pretty certain that over three Chernobyl's of radiation was released and since it's been about three years and the releases are ongoing then to put that in perspective it sounds like 1 Chernobyl per year, that's without anymore problems at the fuel storage ponds, which could multiply the radiation released by 85 times or something like that. The radiation isn't contained to an area or inland where it can be buried in concrete but is on the seashore and all the radioactive waste is flowing into the Pacific Ocean at something like quadrazillion becquerels.

    And since there are many old reactors like these around the world and the new probability of a NPP meltdown is now every 7 years, our planet may be in store for even more radioactivity.

    Can the impossible happen can the Pacific ocean die and become a fetid cesspool of lifeless floating waste and become unfit for supporting life on EARTH!!!!!!!


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  • Nick

    But we have a PLAN to deal with Fukushima.

    A nice 3,000 plus page report that details how to proceed.

    So satisfying to think humans actually can type enough bullshit so that the world believes it is
    a credible means of decommissioning the impossible.

    Next TEPCO will release a report on stock options.

    Can we get ready for 2020 Olympics now?


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