Joe Rogan on Fukushima and Nuclear Power: If these reactors keep messing up, we’re going to have giant areas of our world contaminated and dead for 100,000s of years — That’s the reality we’re operating under (VIDEO)

Published: May 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 am ET


Ari Shaffir, Brian Redban, Powerful Joe Rogan
The Joe Rogan Experience
Date: 04/30/2012

Rogan: If these reactors keep [messing] up different spots of the world, we’re going to have giant areas of our world contaminated and dead for 100,000s of years. That’s the reality we’re operating under.


Stanford professor Mark Z. Jacobson’s research shows that using current available technology, our energy needs can be met using wind, solar, and water power. And it can happen in the next couple decades.

  1. A path to sustainable energy by 2030 (Scientific American, November 2009) (pdf).
  2. Providing all global energy with wind, water and solar power, Part I: Technologies, energy resources, quantities and areas of infrastructure, and materials (Energy Policy, 2011) (pdf-Part I)
  3. Providing all global energy with wind, water and solar power, Part II: Reliability, system and transmission costs, and policies (Energy Policy, 2011) (pdf-Part II)
  4. Spreadsheet accompanying Parts I and II (xls-Spreadsheet)
  5. Energy and Environmental Science article ranking energy solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy security (link)
  6. Studies on matching hourly and peak demand by combining renewables (link)
  7. Studies on wind energy resources and transmission (link)
  8. April 20, 2012 Tri-Agency (NSF-NOAA-NASA) PI Meeting Presentation (pptx)
  9. November 14, 2011 HEAL Utah Presentation (pptx) (video)
  10. May 16, 2011 Seminar, Woods Institute for the Environment (video)
  11. February 4, 2011 Seminar, Cornell University (video)
  12. January 13, 2011 Stanford Grid Integration Workshop Presentation (pptx)
  13. TED/CNN debates on renewables versus nuclear (link)
  14. April 1, 2008 U.S. House of Representatives hearing. Rep. Jay Inslee tells Exxon-Mobil executive that the vision in the “Renewable Energy Solution to Global Warming” by the Atmosphere/Energy Program at Stanford University is “one that the United States really needs” (starting at 1:35:00 in hearing video) (video) (transcript)
  15. February 7, 2012 op-ed (invited), “Securing public health forever with clean energy” (link)
Published: May 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 am ET


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49 comments to Joe Rogan on Fukushima and Nuclear Power: If these reactors keep messing up, we’re going to have giant areas of our world contaminated and dead for 100,000s of years — That’s the reality we’re operating under (VIDEO)

  • trinityfly trinityfly

    I have always loved Rogan. He always calls it the way he sees it. Does not hold punches! "What an expensive way to boil water"!!!

  • ion jean ion jean

    We ALREADY see the largest ocean contaminated beyond repair…coastal land as well in Eastern Asia and Western North America…just look at the RAD values from Caldicott's Australian map here:

    You only need a 25 rad thyroid exposure in the U.S. To qualify for compensation (75,000) under some atomic testing casualty act from the 1980s

    How much more proof does Obama need to give up that Nuclear Ghost he hangs on the coattails of???

    We need an immediate Moratorium on all nuclear plants, especially and immediately the GE Mark I's…

    While witchdoctor scam artists throughout the healthcare industry would rather Obama just maintain our chronic radiation-induced diseases by mandating "health" (sick) care rather than just fix the problem!

    • SnorkY2K

      Where do I apply for compensation? I am on levothyroxine for thyroid and worked with nuclear materials.

      • Sickputer

        Snorky sez…

        > Where do I apply for compensation?

        In 1990 Congress passed the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act allowing for payments to individuals who contracted certain cancers and other serious diseases as a result of their exposure to above-ground nuclear weapons tests or as a result of their exposure to radiation during employment at atomic testing sites or in underground uranium mines.

        Read more about it at: Footnote 40

  • Fukushima Declares "some areas MAY be unsafe for Years" MXC update 4/4/12
    Published on Apr 10, 2012 by MsMilkytheclown

    • ion jean ion jean

      MsMilky rocks…she caught that EU Times article about Japan requesting the Kuril Islands back from Russia so they could evacuate their main island…and no one is talking about this in the press censored U.S.

      • ENENews

        Why is the 'EU Times' article not on ENENews? Apparently this is its original source:

        • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

          Admin.: Well, ENEnews, all of my deepest fears, urgent posts, and mightnight imaginings about Fuku have now been exceeded in spactacular fashion by the reality of the Fukusituation. MSM will follow your lead once their further silence brands them as the nuke shills that they have been. Government will follow, ordering a shutdown of all nuke plants, only when the weight of public condemnation overbalances nuke industry payola. Let's hope we can successfully decommission these radiation machines, and put all that nuke-contaminated material somewhere safe underground so people won't come into contact with it for 100,000 years. Nuclear power was an ill-conceived idea, a poorly flawed design, now lying in ruins amidst the pink clouds of radioactive fog rising up out of the ground each night at Fuku. Nuke has now been clearly been shown to be the very worst idea mankind has ever had! No technology can even begin to deal with this mess, according to experts quoted here on ENEnews. Even robots cannot function in the midst of the Fuku nightmare. All of Japan is lost. The question remains: What can be done at this late date to keep Fuku from killing off the rest of us?

          • Nuclear power was a mistake. But more than that, nuclear everything was a mistake. It's the essence of "life out of balance." We destroy the natural balance with nuclear power, nuclear weapons and nuclear isotopes in medicine too.

            We have become enamored without ability to DESTROY what is natural and create our own reality in place of it. It's the hubris of mankind.

            When you analyze the "need" for nuclear power you find the economic system's insane growth spiral at the foundation of the argument. We have to continually make more stuff, use more energy and "grow the economy" because we haven't learned how to CONSUME LESS and SHARE MORE. That's what we should be focused on right now because all this consumption is killing the planet. The problem isn't "global warming." That's ONE symptom out of many. The problem is "global pollution" generated by a dysfunctional economic system.

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Houston We Have a Problem, No Known Technology to Deal with Fukushima
      It was reported today that a U.S. firm named EnergySolutions, which has been involved in the decommissioning of 10 nuclear power plants now aims to garnering multiple contracts for aiding other companies.

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Found in FD Chat this morning:
        The Roy Process Brief Description
        P.S. Thank you for all the "get well wishes"

        • selfsovereign

          A possible solution since 1979?!!!!!
          "By bombarding them with photons (produced as x-rays) in a high- powered electron linear accelerator. Before this process, the isotopes must be separated by a well-known chemical process.

          It is feasible that portable units could be built and transported to hazardous sites for on-site transmutation of nuclear wastes and radioactive wastes.

          To give an example, cesium 137 with a half-life of 30.17 years is transformed into cesium 136 with a half-life of 13 days. Plutonium 239 with a half-life of 24,300 years is transformed into plutonium 237 with a half-life of 45.6 days. Subsequent radioactive elements which will be produced from the decay of plutonium 237 can be treated in the same way as above until the stable element is formed."

          So, Dr. Radha R. Roy thinks bombardment could achieve isotope stability? Awesome, let's try it AND the BROWNS gas………
          The fact that both of these methods have been available for debunking for over a quarter-flippin-century and ominously have BEEN IGNORED demonstrates to me (IMHO) that , for all intent and purposes we (all biological life on earth) are 'managed' as slave stock.

          Priceless information, Whoopie!! Thankyou for this ray of hope!

        • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

          Whoopie: Dr. Roy should be given $1 billion and told to build a portable remote controlled transmutation device for Fuku. You would drill sideways under Fuku1, 2, & 3, then insert the device right up to those coriums. Let it transmute Corium1, 2, &3 into short lived isotopes. If this can be done in the lab, then it can be done in the field. Then give Roy $10 billion to build one of these suckers into a space satellite that can transmute all nukes into a harmless stable condition. Let them sit there forever, as a testament to human greed and foolishness.

        • The Blue Light.

          The problem with this system is that it will only change 1% of a milligram sample. When it is tried on larger samples the decay heat builds up too rapidly. The brown gas flame is around 100 times less efficient, in fact most laboratories who have tried it have failed to get any result at all.
          What you have to remember is that the radiation is not removed it is just released all at once. This is something that is being actively researched, the possible money to be made from a successful idea are just too big for the nuclear industry to ignore.

          • selfsovereign

            Thankyou for the clarification!
            Say, do you have any references to scientific papers detailing these tests?

            • The Blue Light.

              I meant to say I would have thought it would be actively being investigated. My thinking was that since Fukushima all the big nuclear companies have jumped right in to get the dollars. Seems to me that who ever mastered this technology would have completed the nuclear fuel/energy circle and would make a bundle and these guys are hot for cash.
              I think I might be able to find you some peer reviewed journal pieces etc. on the subject if I do I will find you on site and get them to you some how. Might be by snail mail since I'm abit old fashioned.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            Unfortunately, all the Japanese experiments and Russian experiments have ended in catastrophic failure. These failures are now killing us.

  • StillJill StillJill

    Look at you girl,…..feet hit the ground in the morning,…and your off to warn the World!

    How are yoru 'menfol'k, Whoopie? Are they feeling any better my friend? ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      They are better. Pouring rain here. NO GOING OUTSIDE TODAY.

      • StillJill StillJill

        Good decision! So glad they are better! ๐Ÿ™‚
        The rain is due here at 11 am,…so I have 3.5 hours to shop in town!

        Better hit the shower.

        Duck and cover my friends,…….really! Get what you need for a couple weeks at least,…SOON, please!

        I love you all! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        "Our entire civilization runs on an insane idea … And we're going to use an insanely hot thing to burn water and create steam …. It's nuts, it's F'n crazy!"

        You said it, Joe!

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Oops, I put that in the wrong place.

          Whoopie, I'm with you — no going out in the rain. It's headed this way (south of you).

          Batten down the hatches, maties!

          • Whoopie Whoopie

            Hey does anyone have Arc's email? I just looked, thought i had it. Rooks wants to connect up with him.
            (me too lol! add it to my contacts)

            • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

              No Whoopie, but try this:

              LOL ๐Ÿ™‚

              • Whoopie Whoopie

                That's a joke, right BB?

                • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

                  Yes, Whoopie…sorry, just trying to joke away immense tension. Just saw a pic on Fuku diary he posted on FB – a man dying from radiation burn. Stomach turned. Can't NO MORE.

                  • Whoopie Whoopie

                    Oh I know BB! I saw it earlier too. You can ONLY SEE IT FOR A SECOND then FB takes over!

                    • arclight arclight

                      ok lemming update email thing…

                      recently i had taken to videoing my emails being checked.. now that i have disconnected my pnone from the internet.. i appear to have some privacy again.. so let me work out how to get a miing .com thing email and i will get back ter yerz!! could be a silent mode thing though..

                      i dont want to use any secret stuff though as i have always been transparent and not of a shifty nature (err mostly) and i want to keep it that way hence the delay in responding to requests for contact..

                      im a lonely lemming!! ๐Ÿ™

                      thanks guys for being there over the last year.. youve been an important support network for me.. i include all that have contributed to enenews too!! especially admin ๐Ÿ™‚

  • StillJill StillJill

    you're, and your. Guess I need coffee!

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      I wish you smarter ones would check out that physics forum link above. It leaves me one question ONLY: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THIS? DID THE NUKERS SILENCE THE INVENTOR? They will go to any lengths to KILL A PLAN.

      • labmonkeywithagun labmonkeywithagun

        It's simply cost too much for them to consider it.

        You could even run spent rods and extract the easy isotopes out
        while it's running-like iodine and cesium and run the "harder"
        ones back through. Iodine is harmless after a relative short time, cesium and strontium stored at 500 years is not impossible to handle.Cores get smaller and smaller as you go and plenty of energy to run turbines,ect. But it cost.

  • arclight arclight

    great interview


    Norway has invested its shirt and future in depleted uranium and legal weapons of max destruction!! they also lie for iaea! they want to strip mine norway for thorium and rare earths…

    they are not testing the lemmings for isotopic pollution!! Basยฃ$%"gs

    and yes lots of sensible european countries are getting out of nuclear

    not norway (shared reactor with sweden on morwegian/swedish border)
    not UK (for now! ๐Ÿ˜‰ )
    after greenpeace simulated terrorist attack on french reactor (went rather well, mission accomplished) not sure about the french? terrorism a threat on mainland europe?? i think so!! glad it was greenpeace…

    could have been any one of these.. and theres more depending on which country is chosen.. i think the uk is big on calling peopleterorists.. ๐Ÿ™

    that does not bode well for yours truly…

    "Proscribed terrorist groups
    These terrorist organisations are currently proscribed under UK legislation,
    and therefore outlawed in the UK.
    Proscribed terrorist groups
    ๏‚ท 47 international terrorist organisations are proscribed under the
    Terrorism Act 2000.
    ๏‚ท Of these, two organisations are proscribed under powers introduced in
    the Terrorism Act 2006, as glorifying terrorism.
    ๏‚ท 14 organisations in Northern Ireland are proscribed under previous

    note to the wise…

    • arclight arclight

      "the new lemming front" are now on the list too!!

      is nothing sacred….!! nasty HOME OFFICE!! ๐Ÿ™

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    A Radioactive Blue Siamese Feline Flees From Fukushima Fallout Fog: via @youtube

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      I posted VIDEO at Right This Minute FB. Think they'll show it? They might…THEY LOVE ANIMAL VIDEOS. They would prob run it without SOUND.

    • Video was not what I expected. This is a potrblog video discussing the current radioactive STEAM coming from the plant. He also explains the line across the camera. (theorizes anyway)

      "We are canaries in a coal mine." – potrblog

      Gorgeous cat. His final statement, "Good luck, little buddy." ๐Ÿ™

      He also credits majia in the 'Show More' description for alerting him.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    My Tweet: #Fukushima: Midler Goes Green? @hp Does BETTE know about Daiichi? @BetteMidler

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Ticker Tape GMA says San Onefre 54? MILLION DOLLARS so far? How do I find that news? anyone?

  • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff


    Back around 1981 when I was in engineering school, I remember a technical journal news story coming out about a guy from India who supposedly had figured out a way to neutralize radioactive elements.
    It sounded a bit "out there".
    I waited for years to see anything come from it.
    Nothing did.

    The essence of this new story sure seems like it is the same guy.

    So here is the big red flag on this story.

    <strong>The Roy Process Patent application, apparatus & theory, which contains completed
    calculations for transmuting Pu 239, Sr 90 and Cs 137, can only be seen by
    scientists representing a company capable of realization who contracts with us.</strong>

    What this says (to me) is that they have not actually applied for a patent yet.
    It is idea only.
    That they are holding this concept hostage for business purposes reeks of scam of some sort.

    Also, it is not all that different than trying to clean up styrofoam beads that spill out of a fast moving truck.
    Good luck.
    Just how will they be able to fix all of what has been spewed so far?!
    Spent fuel rods, maybe.
    But the ocean????
    The damage is already done.
    And this idea will likely use a LOT of energy!!
    That we don't have.

    I have been involved with IC circuit design for decades.
    Easily half of the innovative design ideas that worked great on paper failed to work properly in actual application.

    This new "solution" sounds very Nigerian money scam to me.
    Wish I could offer a…

    • SnorkY2K

      A company that I used to work for purchased large amounts of americium 241. We had it made for us by other suppliers from mostly plutonium. However, it is a bit like a pinball game where the reactions are not completely controlled and predictable. Although our sources went through purification steps, the ability to control exactly which isotope that we received varied greatly. Until we developed the means to identify and compensate, isotope inclusion left us up to two months of the year without viable product or difficult sorting and rework. Yes, each step was very expensive in energy and cost. But, turning it into americium for us may have been the cheapest way to dispose of their waste stream.

  • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

    That's the second time the html coding didn't work here.

  • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

    ….Wish I could offer a more positive interpretation.

  • irradiatedinbako

    A rare tornado hit eastern Japan today and this made MSM news. Forget any other arguments about earthquakes, tsunamis, etc. and imagine what would be if this mofo had hit Fuku NPP:

    No time anymore for talk .. entomb and dry cask immediately. Call to action all nations and volunteers.

  • billhobin07
    The energy needs of America is doubling in 8 years. the world's is quadrupling there is no other choice to not to build at least 150 pebble bed 4th gen reactors in America, or else like the rest of the 3rd world we are soon to enter, power outages ill be rampant. Mark one and 2 plants will become over burdened and be forced into power production that practically ensures meltdowns . what about all that nuclear waste accrued over the last 50 year with 100s of thousands of years half life, dump it into the fancy new 4th gen reactor and watch as 95-98% of it disappears, and turns it into a mild contaminate with half lives of thousands of years.