‘Growing Alarm’: 25 trillion becquerels of Fukushima radioactive material leaks into ground — Kyodo News Advisory: Exact source of extreme contamination unknown; Tank missing 300,000 liters (VIDEO)

Published: August 20th, 2013 at 12:59 am ET
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Reuters, Aug 20, 2013: The operator of Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant said on Tuesday it believes about 300 tonnes of highly contaminated water has leaked from a storage tank […] Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority has classified the leak as a level 1 incident [… There’s] growing alarm of neighbouring countries. [… Tepco] has also been accused of covering up the extent of the problems at the plant. […] A spokesman for the operator [said] the leaked water contains 80 million becquerels of radiation per litre […] the storage tank […] is about 500 metres (550 yards) from the shore […]

Voice of America correspondent Steve Herman, Aug 20, 2013: Leaked water most likely flowed into soil at #Fukushima-1 plant. Readings recorded of 80 million Bq/liter.

Kyodo News, Aug 20, 2013: Roughly 300 tons of water contaminated with radioactive substances have leaked from water storage tanks [… Tepco] said it detected in the leaked water radioactive substances emitting beta rays, with an extremely high reading of 80 million becquerels per liter […] TEPCO said the toxic water most likely flowed into the soil. The utility has yet to identify the exact source of the leak.

NHK, Aug 20, 2013: TEPCO officials say an inspection showed a drop in the water level inside one of the 26 tanks. They estimate that the tank has lost about 300 out of the roughly 1,000 tons of water it held.

Japan Today, Aug 20, 2013: “We have instructed TEPCO to find the source of contaminated water—from which tank the water is leaking—and to seal the leakage point,” a [nuclear] regulatory official said. “We have also instructed them to retrieve contaminated soil to avoid a further expansion of toxic water, and to strengthen monitoring of the surrounding environment.”

Calculations: Roughly 300 metric tons = Roughly 300,000 liters × 80 million Bq of beta radiation per liter = Roughly 24,000,000,000,000 Bq of total beta radiation (~24 trillion Bq)

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100 comments to ‘Growing Alarm’: 25 trillion becquerels of Fukushima radioactive material leaks into ground — Kyodo News Advisory: Exact source of extreme contamination unknown; Tank missing 300,000 liters (VIDEO)

  • When will this nuke insanity end?

    Help it end, invest your time and money to help it end.

    • We Not They Finally

      It won't end. Good luck, though, in overcoming denial. It's a universal struggle at this point. VERY difficult to face.

  • rockyourworld

    what do they think happens when it rains? in the soil my butt!

  • 4GaugePA

    Umm is it just me or does that sound really bad?

    • 4GaugePA

      ohhhhh never mind it's all good now, I thought they said 26 trillion, but they really said only 25 trillion…whew close one, I almost panicked.

      • We Not They Finally

        I know. It's like saying do you want your burgers well done or extra-crispy? If/when we are all roasty-toasty, ain't gonna matter much.

  • Kassandra

    It seems that events are spiraling out of control

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, it won't be long now as they will have no choice soon ..but to awaken the sleeping sheep..

    • We Not They Finally

      I know that people are mis-educated, distracted, propagandized, and the like. I just don't like calling people sheep or "sheeple." It's demeaning. It's also like setting up a class system amongst ordinary people. "Oh, I'm aware, but you, you're a sheeple." A lot of people really would care if this is somehow at some point pushed out into the open. And it may HAVE to be if/when catastrophic events are upon us personally.

      • Yukio_Tanukio

        Dear We Not They Finally:
        The Sheeple are "they;" the non-Sheeple are "we."

        "They" are sheeple because they don't have the intelligence, wisdom, taste, judgement, or humanity to know right from wrong, lies from truth, good from evil, scams from honest interaction, and they probably suffer from personality disorders and neuroses that make them a burden to their families and their societies.

        I don't have the slightest hesitation to label them as sheeple, or worse, because I've lived many decades now learning the nature of the damage they do, and the intractable egotistical unfathomable resistance of their natures to any growth or change. They are born stupid and destructive, and they won't change their natures. The best we can hope for is that they will try to change their behavior if they face self destruction due to it.

        If, finally, the sheeple come 'round to view the current disaster as an existential threat – Whether by Imperial Edict or a CNN Special – what difference to us? They still will be a problem in any other matter, forever. That is why our fate was sealed when the good people were eclipsed and their influence in society and government became ineffectual. This change resulted from propagandizing and manipulating the sheeple, and turning them against the decent well-meaning minority. The means was media and social institutions, like education. The groups of people who did it are known to the wise among us. It's right under your nose.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Excellent!

        • James Tekton James Tekton

          "The groups of people who did it are known to the wise among us. It's right under your nose."

          Roger that!

          Sadly, the sheeple will turn into wolves when the stomach becomes most their God.

          What is also happening is the environment is becoming more and more unstable and harsh in areas where it used to be easy to grow your vegetables. The fallout from fuckushima combined with the very high UV levels is playing havoc on the garden this year. Many plants are maturing way to fast, or burning up even with lots of water being given.

          http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/uv_index/uv_current_map.shtml

          When this baby finally blows and the food system completely breaks down, the public will not be told. It will be, everything is just fine go back to sleep and the sheeple will say….Baaaaaaaaaa.

        • nedlifromvermont

          Hiding in plain sight at JP Morgan bank … "We are just going to push this nuclear thing through …"

          Thanks be to GE …

        • hbjon hbjon

          It is an interesting piece on sheeple. It is by design that they exist. They serve an important purpose for tptb. Sheeple are and strive to be good folks, but remain ignorant on things that seem distant or out of their control. I don't hate sheeple. Sheeple play nice with the kids, bake wonderful cakes, and can tell you what the final score of last nights game was. Society needs them. On the other hand, because of our fields of interest, we have become burdened with a need to contemplate and agonize over an event that arguably may be an ELE. It's not us vs sheeple, nukers vs non-nukers, man vs woman, old vs new, and so forth. It is the human analytical mind vs an out-of-control suppressor in the form of a spreading, unstoppable, uncontainable, substance that will affect you at some point in time. People look at reality in terms of preconceived opinions and have trouble with new words at times. We must always be open to new terminology and new and novel ways of approaching an unforeseen problem. Frustration will always manifest itself as we agonize over this possible ELE.

        • LegionNetworkCH

          Pointing fingers at the enablers without pointing fingers at the designers is futile and even counterproductive.

          People should realize that some do actually put their interest far above all the others, notwithstanding that they have means and abuse the "sheeple" to achieve it.

          Respect isn't gained by antagonizing with sheeple; try to teach someone something useful instead.

  • This is bad,

    They are losing control all over the place.

    I'm starting to wonder if we'll even make it to November to extract the fuel if this keeps up.

    THEY DON'T KNOW THE SOURCE YET. Hmmmmmmmmm

    Try ground penetrating radar maybe?

    • We Not They Finally

      Extract the jigsaw of twisted welded stuck-together monumentally-heavy fuel rods from reactor 4 in November? I know that they SAID that, but probably only desperation leads them to CONSIDER that. It's all "damned if you do, damn if you don't." It's crazy-risky either way.

  • sailor

    Um…I need some help understanding this. Can someone quanitify 25 trillion becquerels in such a way as to help me understand what this number means. I know I must sound like an idiot, especially on this website. But I really don't understand. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks.

    • MCBEKRL

      1 Bq = 1 disintegration per second. This means that 25 trillion Bq is 25 trillion atomic disintegrations per second. Depending on the type of elements breaking down into more stable states, will determine how many of these 25 million disintegartions per second are alpha and how many are beta particles. Gamma rays will be very strong in either case.

    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      @Sailor:
      Yes, I can help.
      25 trillion is the same as 25 million million.
      Or 25 times a million times a million.

      Or as Carl Sagan would have said…2500 Beeeelleeeon.

      Another way to think about this is that the leakage is exhibiting
      83.3 million Bq per liter.
      The latter radioactivity level is beyond huge.

      Here is some info for reference.
      The EPA (US) has determined an allowable limit of 3 pico Curies per liter in the commercial milk supply.

      Multiply Bq by 27 to get pC

      The Fuku water samples are then 27 X 83.3×10^6 pC, or
      2250 million pC per liter.

      In essence, the radioactivity of this latest leakage is more or less "off the charts".

      More like if you flew in to the Sun, would the absolute temperature matter once you are way past crispy?

      Hope this helps.

    • We Not They Finally

      Sailor, we ask for others to explain all the time You're hardly "an idiot." It's really good to ask! Stick around!

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      how bad…dont know if this is accurate but;

      Professor Yuri Bandazhevsky discovered that children contaminated with cesium-137 that produced 50 becquerels per kilogram of body weight caused irreversible heart damage in a child “…even relatively small amounts of Cs-137 in children from 10-30 Bq/kg…leads to a doubling in the number of children with electrocardiographic disorders.”

      200 Bq/kg, in a pregnant woman can result in fetal death according to the Belarus studies.

      Prof. Koide says, by law, materials measuring over 10,000 Bq/kg should be kept under control as dangerous radioactive material.

      The prescribed safe limit for I-131 in vegetables is set at 2,000 Becquerel (Bq) per kilogram and 500 Bq/kg for radioactive cesium.

      On Monday 3/21/11, Japan raised the threshold for human decontamination from 6,000 counts per minute to 100,000 counts per minute

      instantly lethal dose of C-137 (for adult humans) would be more than 140,000,000 Bq

      28,000,000,000 Overdoses of plutonium have already been released

      The US EPA has established the "action level" for radon in your home, school, or work place is 4 pCi/l.

      San Diego, CA Topsoil on June 29, 2011: Total Cesium @ 2.51 Bq/kg

      the plant has been leaking around 0.3 trillion becquerels per month

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        In May 2012, TEPCO reported that at least 900 PBq had been released into the atmosphere in March 2011 alone

        Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts estimates that 16.2 petabecquerels of radioactive caesium leaked from the plant

        Dr. Paolo Scampa Reports That Fukushima Released 3 trillion Lethal Doses Of Radiation.

        drinking a liter of 83 million Bq/kg would give you 170000 times the japanese limit?

        Anyway, its safe to say a lot of animals will die and the others will be sick.

    • LegionNetworkCH

      Try to represent the number in standard scientific notation: 1 Trillion = 10^12 (that silly sign is a power operation sign)

      So, that makes 25*10^12 Bq (disintegrations)

      Easy, see? It also works for the japanese public debt, 10.46*10^12 ¥‎

      It's easier to understand the scale of the numbers with the power sign, and it also saves ink!

      Researching is good, sharing is better but the best is ACTING!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxvxc5QkjrE

  • rockyourworld

    the radiation will blot out the sun and nuclear winter will be upon us, it's just a matter of when and they wont tell us.

    • We Not They Finally

      Yes, AND…. there has been a VERY scary uptick of UV-B radiation from tearing of the ozone layer. (UV-A is "normal sunshine." UV-B is highly dangerous.) And that DESTROYS PLANT LIFE, as well as being deadly to the human skin. So we may wind up "cooking," but that doesn't mean that we will have much to eat! (Excuse crude analogy.)

    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      @rockyourworld:
      The Nuclear Winter concept (from TTAPS modeling) was based on the amount of dust that would be spewed in to the upper atmosphere and carried all around the globe.

      Nuclear Winter does not require (that I know of) the dust to be radioactive.

      The dust will do the sun block, not the radiation from the decaying radionuclides within the dust.

      • We Not They Finally

        It can get confusing the understand though. I understand what you said about the dust bloing the Sun so it's colder, but the excessive radiation pierces the ozone layer, leaving no protection against deadly rays. I don't know if those are thermally hot, however. I just don't know.

  • teamplayer

    "From water storage tanks…."
    Surprise, surprise.
    "The tanks are built from parts of disassembled old containers brought from defunct factories and put together with new parts…
    Tepco (said) it does not know how long the tanks will hold."

    • nedlifromvermont

      wouldn't it make more sense to collect some of this stuf in a double hulled Supertanker … for later reprocessing? Oh heck, just let 'er go … that Pacific Ocean is sooo huge …(sarc)

  • We Not They Finally

    "25 trillion becquerels in just the last few hours"??? Is that a RE-criticality of coriums, SFP 4 collapse, uncontrolled nuclear fire, WHAT??? At this rate, they "don't know" while the rest of us DIE.

    Can anyone at least QUANTIFY the magnitude of this release? And once this STARTS happening, is there any chance at all that it could stop? It's truly like "the floodgates of hell"!

    • Discordian

      Very good questions, WNTF. In fact, those are terrifying questions given the record of TEPCO's honesty and forthrightness in the past.

      In the weeks immediately following the blowout, TEPCO would release numbers about the extent of the catastrophe, which were ALWAYS found two or three months later to be a gross underestimate of the actual data—usually off by a factor of ten, as I recall.

      It just makes one wonder if the numbers are actually far worse.

  • rockyourworld

    it's raining on fukushima. anything in the soil is now in the sea. tepco officials should commit hare kare, it's the honorable thing to do!

    • We Not They Finally

      Very sadly, you have a point. The apology routine has gotten way ragged, and if they were really so sorry….

      I hate to talk this way, but honestly, I don't know how humans CAN live with this on their conscience.

  • We Not They Finally

    So a liter is like a quart (approximately.) And it is 80 million becquerels per liter? That's apparently how they calculated this. And three metric tons (= 6000 pounds)of those liters.

    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      A metric ton (tonne) is by definition 1000 liters based on the assumption that 1 liter of water is 1kg.

      The latter approximation does not account for temperature, which for this conversation is a good assumption.

  • We Not They Finally

    If it is, as they say, A TANK that had all this radiation, does that mean that ALL the storage tanks have that level of radiation? The tanks themselves are built to NO CODE and will CORRODE. And obviously, MOST of the water flowing through there into the ocean, is not contained in any tank at all!

    But they are acting like this is "different" and "suddenly alarming"? So WHY? I mean, what's changed?

    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      There is no way for us to know what went in to which tank.
      Some could have low (relative) levels of radioactivity depending on when they were filled, based on what was happening when they filled.

      As for "NO CODE", I think that is a misnomer, of a sort.
      Since GE designed the Mark I system, it seems unlikely that we will ever know who built the tanks, assuming that they are part of the NPP design.

      If they are not, then all bets are off as to who was the lowest bidder on making them.

      Which begs the next question…how much money was involved in bribing the weld inspectors to pass the welds?

      The alarming issue here is that the radioactivity numbers have spiked immensely in the last few days, way beyond what some thought might be able to happen. This is what is "different".

      The big mistake here is that suits with little technical background or experience are calling the shots on what to do and how to do it at Fuku.

      It is more like a race car driver trying to fix a blown engine.
      Nothing says that the driver has any mechanical knowledge or aptitude.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Does anyone think that 300 tons of water soaked into the sandy soil, yards from the ocean, and not leached directly into the sea?

    Maybe these revelations are why the US PTB are getting ready.

    If it truly is the event, as it is adding up to be, they are expecting us…

  • We Not They Finally

    From the minute this happened 3-11-11, we (husband and I) knew that it would be an ELE and only get worse as time went on. We just tried to keep our own counsel because people need hope, and what can be done SHOULD be done. It's just escalating so frighteningly now. We haven't hit the point of The Big Weep yet, but at some point, we just might. God help us all.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Ready to blow up big time. Hope not.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Pretty sure we saw soil liquefaction inland after the quake.

    I highly doubt anything stayed out of the ocean and why the readings are through the roof directly offshore.

    They may have had hope in the beginning that the radiation contamination would stay put, but I believe they are way past those thoughts..

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    To get a good look at the tanks on goog maps, go here…

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.419982,141.027087&h&z=19

    It's possible to have a criticality in the plastic storage tanks stacked in the parkinglots there..
    Hanford has similar problems it the tanks, and those tanks must be kept under constant stirring to keep the certain types of isotopes that have a very low threshold of criticality from collecting in one spot.

    This is a very good reason to hurry up and get several miles of bigbore HDPE outfall pipe set offshore and initially run it in a loop.. the volume in that outfall pipe can be equal to the volume of the tanks in the parkinglot… and quickly add graphene and a supertanker and barges.

  • 4GaugePA

    ummm quick question, I work on the olympic peninsula in a fish processing plant, handle fish everyday….should I be concerned?

    • 4GaugePA

      northern most tip of washington state

      • 21stCentury 21stCentury

        Neah Bay ?? .. Just try to eat the local species of fish that don't migrate too much.. don't eat too much of fish, a small amount is ok still. I still eat fish I catch in Pungent Sound, but I don't make a pig out myself. Keep my weight down. Drink lots of Kangen Water, or electro activated water. Go to Sequim and get corn & pumpkins. Buy local food from the farmers markets.

        If you can find a local x-ray doctor radiologist see if you can do a joint project with him doing autoradiographs of selected samples of fish and local kelp..
        autoraidiographs use x-ray film and a lead-brick box..
        ..this is one of the very best ways of detecting small amounts of contaminants in selected biological samples, it will show you what parts accumulate the fallout so you can cut them out when processing the food.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Where a dosimeter..

    • Slingerss Slingerss

      Umm short answer "Yea". It will be everywhere soon. Everywhere.

    • Slingerss Slingerss

      And, consider eliminating shellfish off your menu.

    • Buy a radiation detector.

      • 21stCentury 21stCentury

        EZ-trick; Build your own Cloud Chamber to detect radiation..

        just goog: how to build a cloud chamber

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pewTySxfTQk

        There's lots of info on the web showing how to build your own cloud chamber.

        When in college 40 years ago we were building Cloud Chamber Coffee Tables.
        A refrigeration unit, and a jug of alcohol, some small light bulbs..
        nowdays LED lights will work real good for providing enhanced illumination of the tracer-tracks.
        We could place any type of radioactive sample on top of the glass top on the table and it would instantly show us a visual of emitted particles. It's much more sensitive than a fluoroscope.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Do not weep for any humans, only weep for all those other species that reside here on Planet Earth that had nothing to do with this event and/or this Nuclear Technology.

    I have said this before that I do not think this will be an ELE event, but I do believe it will be a dramatic increased diseased event.

    The Earth is a big planet and she does have the ability to heal herself over time.

    We do have time to set the proper course for the future generations, but and yes we must be vigilant in our pursuits to end this current Nuclear Technology use and soon.

    We must all stay on course and be very urgent in this pursuit and those expert in 'Word Craft" need to get very busy and that would include any/all lawyers who read what has been written here today!

    Again..stay on course and be urgent and spread this enenews to all ears that are willing to listen..

    • 21stCentury 21stCentury

      I have said this before that I do not think this will be an ELE event, but I do believe it will be a dramatic increased diseased event…

      me too me too i said that too..
      we will all have a lot more hospice and homecare jobs taking care of our friends when they get sick..
      I been on both ends of this stick being sick..
      I used to be a lot more radioactive than I am now, it takes a lot of work to decontaminate.
      ..

      gotta rebuild myself another aquaponics greenhouse again

      http://buildingawhat.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/shed_12.jpg

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        In many ways we think alike, but you are much smarter though 😉

        and thats the way its all suppose to work!

        WE are all one!

        • larry-andrew-nils

          if we are all one then how come we cant stop ourself from poisoning ourself… i think we must be at least two… or like the demon 'legion', many.

          • Ourself Ourself

            when light shines through a prism, it splits into an array of colors. it's still one light, yet it's also many at the same time…

  • rockyourworld

    one tsunami and all those storage barrels will be headed our way

  • homeenergyexpert homeenergyexpert

    Those leaking tanks will have to wait their turn to pollute the USA, as Hanford's 67-leaking tanks, and their Plutonium dumping into the Columbia River were here first!

    The line starts up in Alaska, & don't forget the Canadians want a piece of this flow! You can't make all those flowers on Vancouver Island grow without a hefty bag full of Plutonium.

  • UncleCrusty

    I have a thought / theory. Please shoot it all full of holes and help me just forget it. It is: As DipCo starts dumping/pumping out "below legal limit" water, and starts lowering the level of groundwater and water in the plant, what is to stop a pocket of hot fuel/mass/blob still "on the floor" or hung in plant systems to dry out and attain some form of criticality, resulting in large amounts of steam being produced AND gamma emissions?
    I hate to rain on a party. So? too far fetched?

    • larry-andrew-nils

      i saw a VIDEO about CHERNOBLE where they had to keep the thing covered … not to get wet… does anybody know; can anyone explain why water is bad to get on the old lump at Chernobyl? does water induce criticality?

    • larry-andrew-nils

      i worry more about a totally dry criticality where we can't see steam. however, i don't know enough about how it works if a lump dries out… ie: will it have more airborne particles with water vapor as a carrier, or can the radiation become airborne without attaching to water vapor.

      we weren't taught about this in school. i had been under the impression that it was nu and clear.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Not at all and anything is possible at this point….

  • Sol Man

    Is it at all possible for all of this radiation in the air can wreck havoc on an airliners circuitry? Is airplane circuitry all hardened against this sort of thing? Please someone address is issue with facts. Thanks.

    • larry-andrew-nils

      the helicopters which put out the fire at chernobyl worked fine… however, a robot had trouble operating on the reactor roof and camera film was affected.

      this being said, i should also note that robots worked at fukushima and did their job. perhaps the one wayward robot who committed suicide at chernobyl, was just overworked.

      also: i don't know

      • Sol Man

        I think I recall that one of the copters at Chernobyl crashed during the work; why did it crash? It hit something? Why or how did it lose control?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Gee, after 2053 atomic bomb tests during the last 50 years and several meltdowns under our belts, I would think they would have been hardened by now. I guess maybe a reason why I do not fly if at all possible…

    Seems like they are still building them there planes like crazy, but then maybe the lithium batteries are having a few problems with radiation, but I think we would be the last to know if that was the case.

    Great question! Somebody should know..

  • Yukio_Tanukio

    Now, now – Let's not fly off into an uninformed panic.

    Let's hypothesize that all the radiation in this leak were Cesium 137. Cs137 emits / contains about 88 Curies per gram, which is about 37 Billion Becquerels.

    This leak comprises about 24 Trillion Becquerels. Now, I'm seriously math-challenged, but I compute the leak amounts to only the radiation emitted by 7.5 grams of Cs137. A US quarter dollar weighs five and a half grams. So, get real – About a quarter size piece of nuke waste in 300 tons of water is a big deal?

    That's a TINY amount, and obviously presents no immediate health threat. If there were any possible danger to us the government would be zooming in to help us and inform us.

    Sigh

    • larry-andrew-nils

      interesting. but something is affecting the fish… if not radiation , then what?… correxit?
      i'm seriously conflicted now.
      i want you to be right.

      • Yukio_Tanukio

        Uh … The data is my best effort at math. The commentary is sarcasm, which I only hope rises to the quality of satire. K?

    • lickerface lickerface

      Your last paragraph sounds like something straight out of one of those mainstream journalists!

  • larry-andrew-nils

    going crazy here having memory flashes of articles about usa causing sunami and thoughts about they did it to make it seem as though japan's fault about oceans because they knew correxit would kill all life in sea and wanted scapegoat.

    No, what about the fact that there are weapons grade plutonium in a huge mass under the ground there at fukushima and that water can't be stopped from naturally flowing to the sea, and that lies are told throuout this event.

    and i still hold out a childish hope that the radiation does nothing more than give us all superpowers.

    i have to start work in order to put in 12 hours… hopefully when i come back you guys have this whole thing figured out and you all agree on one thing and it's true. god bless us and please make immortality a mystery side-affect of all this craziness. sincerely.

  • AB AB

    ELE- Extinction Level Event:
    When R4 goes… we are all doomed, at least our biological vessels. As for our souls, they shall be freed! Please accept JESUS CHRIST while there is still time.
    http://www.freechristianteaching.org/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=505#axzz2cV5L1Egj

    Just 1 MOX fuel Rod has enough Plutonium or hell's dust to kill off 2.7 billion of us. Sea pups dying in SOCAL and Baja MEX.
    We are next… And yes… the DUMB sheeple keep swimming int he Oceans of Baja and eat the fish.

    Watch the movie On The Beach and come to terms with reality.

    Where you gonna run to?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ovLrvq2do

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      accept Jesus while theres still time for what? Guess there will be a whole lot of unsaved yet free souls running around

    • larry-andrew-nils

      oh i run to the river
      river was boiling
      i run to the sea
      sea was boiling.

      sinner-man

  • Yukio_Tanukio

    Too late for me – I've already accepted Buddha as my personal teacher. He never claimed to be a god or the offspring of one. And, Buddha's sage advice to his followers, given from his "deathbed," was that each should each work out for himself his own salvation. How's that for humility and a mandate for personal responsibility?

    Now, I'm no expert in ancient languages (or modern) but I suspect the translation of what Buddha advised as "salvation" is probably different from what a Christian understands by the term. I think Buddha was saying that each person must seek out by himself and come to terms with the mystery of who we are, where we came from, and where we will go. He wasn't sellin' snake oil. And, he is an historical figure, not one of questionable authenticity.

    It seems odd to me that a nation whose cultural roots are primarily Celtic worships an ancient god that was the literary creation of a small tribe of Mid Eastern Arabs, and whose more recent non-Arabic practitioners are more than anyone else the salient developers and supporters of nuclear-ism.

    • 21stCentury 21stCentury

      I worship Buda…
      …this Buda I got here teaches me to carefully watch my head temperature.
      If my head gets too hot, then I gotta slow down carefully, not too fast now.. or I'll get a cracked head.

      I learned to worship Buda in the truck driving over the pass in the mountains, then I kept worshipping Buda at sea in the fishingboat during stormy weather, and we erected another shrine to Buda in the sawmill where we cut holy wood.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAWcZeHbdms

      …now if you ask Obewan he'll say I cracked my head many years ago.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        21st you probably cracked your head when you and George stumbled out of the bar..no doubt!

        Sometimes those bangs (cracks) on the head do wonderful things to our brains 🙂

  • Cerviche

    Just a question, and correct me if im not mistaken, doesnt water in open atmosphere evaporate?, turning into water vapor which moves in the air with the wind? or is there an exception to contaminated?

    • larry-andrew-nils

      i would assume that some evaporate , but even salt in the ocean stays mostly in the water. so lets hope the heavy particles eventually sink to the bottom and are covered in time

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Buda would tell us to breath in slowly and very deeply and then to look for, sense and feel the signs/energy radiating from the force.

    Fish with blood coming from their eyes is a clear sign that the current severity of the radiation readings they are reporting are wrong and its much worse than what we are being told.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Buddha or Buda makes no difference since it is we (all) that must learn to become one with the force…

    The signs are now everywhere that a disturbance has occurred in the force..

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Maybe this is why the government is order MRE's and ammo? I get the same feeling Obe, things are not good with the force.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    It must be one of the of the many reasons to choose and then fear of the unknown has always been/is very powerful force itself.

  • Gasser Gasser

    The BWR Nuclear gambler

    On a radioactive summer's eve
    
On a train bound from nuclear Hell
    
I met up with a Uranium gambler
    
We were both too contaminated to sleep

    
So we took turns a-starin'

    Out the window at the meltdown disaster
    
The fear overtook us, he began to speak

    He said, “Son,
    I've made a life
Out of polluting' people's places
    
Knowin' what the odd's were
    
By the fear they had in their eyes


    So if you don't mind my sayin’
    
I can see you're out of faith also

    For a taste of your whiskey

    I'll give you some advice"

    So I handed him my water bottle

    And he drank down my last swallow

    Then he bummed my last joint
    And asked me for a light

    
And the night got deathly quiet
    
And his faced lost all expression

    He said, "If you're gonna play the nuclear game, boy
    
You gotta learn to play it right

    You've got to know when to bullshit ‘em
    
Know what to not tell 'em

    Know when to walk away
    
Know when to run

    
You never count your blood money
    
When you're sittin' at the NRC table

    There'll be time enough for countin’
    
When the death dealin's done

    Every nuke reactor gambler knows

    That the secret to money survivin’
    
Is knowin' how many MOX rod's to use

    And knowin' how many are in the pool

    
'Cause every bad water pump's a loser

    And every meltdown a potential ELE

    And the best that you can hope for
    
Is to die in your sleep"

    And when he finished speakin'

    He turned back toward the window
    
Took…

    • Gasser Gasser

      Gambler Continued;

      And when he finished speakin'

      He turned back toward the window

      Took one more hit off the ganja fatty 

      And faded off to into cesium's death

      
And somewhere in the darkness

      The gambler he never broke even
      
And in his final words
      
I never found faith that I could keep

      You've got to know when to cold'em

      Know when to shut 'em down
      
Know when to walk away
      
And know when to run

      
You never count your blood money
      
When you're sittin' at the NRC table

      There'll never be time enough for countin'

      When death dealin' radiation is done