Published: June 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 pm ET
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6.3-magnitude quake hits off the east coast of Honshu, Japan — USGS, Xinhua, June 3, 2011:
An earthquake measuring 6.3 on the Richter scale jolted off the east coast of Honshu, Japan at 09:05: 03 a.m. local time (00:05:03 GMT) on Friday, the U.S. Geological Survey said. [...]
Published: June 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 pm ET
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Thank you, thank you..
But there’s more coming.
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No tsunami warning? I remember when 6.3 was considered a large shake.
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Tsunamis are rare under mag 7. In fact they’re not too common even in the lower 7s.
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here is a page with an every hour pic from a different angle .
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=webcam
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I reply in order to be read, sorry for you jump-ball. My post was 105 on the list – a bit to far away downwards.
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Gosh ! 104 comments on this non-existing news. The earthquake was far enough from the coast that no shake was registered inland, not even level 1. Congratulations to the brave and cold blood commentators! Shure rely on your precious expertise to make a better world ! 104 bugs !
The quake was’nt listed, that’s all. No plot, no lies, see for instance http://typhoon.yahoo.co.jp/weather/jp/earthquake/ and check the time with your big brains.
Did you scream about this quake, bunch of dudes, or were you having breakfast ? http://typhoon.yahoo.co.jp/weather/jp/earthquake/2011-06-04-01-00.html
Put on your winter socks and go for a nap.
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Yeah, do you know what a winter-socks is ? Well you fell good inside, but you would not got out with it Yeah ?
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Come on ! It’s DOTcn suckers info. Just shit. US readers licking these chinese boots clean like fools. The U.S. is more devastated than Japan, it seems, in many aspects.
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You know the cucumber crisis in Europa?
because the spanish oeasants childs they play decorating the cows with cucumbers. One in the mouth, …etc…
So ze germans they understand they been sick by cucumbers ! They know a lot about scato , and they think this time they are ze victims. Because green cucumber in your ass is great fantasm, very popular in Germany, east and West the same.
So Every body believes it ! So ze doktors and all they say cucumber, cucumber like crazy! HA HA HA
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Well, back on topic, can I re-post my observations from “Large Burst of Steam…” ?
The earthquakes are back as we enter into another EQ ‘window’ from yesterday’s new moon through perigee 6-12, to 7 foot plus pacific tides 6-12 to 6-15. Since there will be aftershocks, or, if this is a foreshock, then bigger shocks coming – is it OK to re-post my observations from “Large Burst of Steam ?:
jump-ball
June 2, 2011 at 8:35 pm · Reply
Reactor 1 came back into partial view at 9:04 and the camera shook left-right for a minute with apparently no wind.
June 2, 2011 at 8:41 pm · Reply
ALERT: 6.3 earthquake off Honshu at 5:04 pacific: THAT was the camera shake I noted above at 9:04 Fuku time.
Amazing what can be pieced together, but if you’re not looking for it, you won’t see it happen.
jump-ball
June 2, 2011 at 8:51 pm · Reply
Here’s the USGS asian map:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/Asia.php
And there are more coming. My email is set to receive USGS world quakes of 6.5 plus, and I expect more mail during the EQ window from new moon yesterday to perigee 6-12 and for a few days after, as pacific tides exceed 7 feet from 6-12 to 6-15.
jump-ball
June 2, 2011 at 9:15 pm · Reply
The Tepco camera appears to be mounted on some kind of pole (as opposed to a tripod), acting like the P-Wave quake detector I have secured to a stud in the wall of my home near the San Andreas CA fault: it is what’s called an “inverted pendulum”.
I think my observation of the camera shake coinciding exactly with the USGS recent 6.3 Honshu earthquake time at 00:05 UTC indicates that a temporarily shaking camera view is acting as an excellent detector of quakes over 6.0, and viewers should go quickly to USGS at http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php to confirm (or exclude) a local quake as the cause of the camera shake, and post quickly for the rest of us to see.
USGS can take several minutes,…
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As I said previously, nice work, but I think we should try to avoid double posting due to the inherent untidiness of this forum. Perhaps a link instead?
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True dat.
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Personally, when it’s important I don’t mind double postings, but then I’m not the owner of this great site.
This site has gotten big and there are times when people miss postings, I know I have missed many.
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Well, I’ll learn to do the link-back to the old-dead-thread routine, but seems to me that late-breaking events deserve at least a brief OT post in the current new thread, or else to some “headline thread” where people can follow the new news.
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Not running for town sheriff, just a friendly reminder that real estate here is in high demand
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Thank You for the masterful hep of, copy/paste, mas expression of mental masturbation.
Along with Pu & Tony.
Gota love the ride.
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you can here them playing the HARP….
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How did I know you were going to say that
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hmmm its got a amplifier
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I was wondering what that sound was.;)
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Aaack! Things are tilting more on the new Tepco webcam (which shows #4 to the extreme right).
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Aaack! Things are tilting more on the new Tepco webcam (which shows #4 to the extreme right). http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
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Tilt? Brings back memories of pinball machines in the 70′s… somehow appropriate.
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As a construction surveyor, I build nuclear power plants.
At Fukushima Daiichi 1, structures appear to be tilted more today than yesterday.
I noticed that hours ago.
Part of my job is to measure tilts, and I don’t trust my eyes or video cams.
TEST: Compare two photographs, old and new, using Adobe Photoshop or whatever. Overlay the photos, make one semi-transparent, and you will know if the tilts are real or illusion.
To me the shift seems enormous, but that could be an illusion caused by fog.
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Wondering what the effect of today’s 6.4 earthquake might have been on the reactors.
I’m thinking more of the spent fuel pools in #4.
Trying to find before and after pics of #1.
Looks like a lean in the following view, but camera angle is difficut, so hard to tell:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index-e.html
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Real time?
I have to wonder because, here in Australia, I am on nearly the same ‘time’ as Japan; but when I view the “live cam” it is often dark here, but apparently light in Japan. And vice versa.
Me paranoid? No way. I always trust governments and corporations.
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Yeah we may trust our governement, but sometingh wrong with these poeple, i dont know, i just feel like they take us for stupid poeple but theyare stupid !
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I can’t see any tilt, because there’s too much smoke or steam or low cloud.
It appears to be coming from the left which means originating from reactor 5/6 area?
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its fog you idiot.omg
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stop posting crap here.what are a 2 year old? how can fog be smoke comin g from reactor 5 or 6? dimwit
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Well fog is low cloud isn’t it. Who’s the idiot/dimwit now?
So my statement is true.
And when I first looked, it WAS coming from the left, which is where unit 5/6 is.
Dimwits.
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Radioactive steam..cooling in 5 has failed…
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1642219.php/Fukushima-water-cooling-pumps-fail-at-reactor-5
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That’s old news you’ve linked to.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/11060306_temp_data_56u-e.pdf
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I see a heat peak at 21:00
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Mind your mouth Tom.
There have been significant emissions today and many people have witnessed them.
Reactor 5 had problems a few days back so it is possible smoke or steam is coming from there.
Also, there exists a common spent fuel pool that we have little information about.
I am not confident all we see is fog. I am no idiot…
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Photo from May 6, 2011 of reactors 1 and 2:
http://uk.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=UKRTR2KAAL#a=22
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this shaking…is it EQ or powerful explosions under the reactors?
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Or both?
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I Just now saw more horror on cam.
And at this hour!
Fog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg&feature=youtu.be
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Check temperature and humidity there in Japan and then you will know if it is fog or smoke !
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i have come to the conclusion that when you see the clouds coming from the far righthand side of the camera then it is fog(since that is the oceanside).
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=fukushima+japan+weather&aq=f&aqi=g1g-v1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9589d0f2bb20ed2d&biw=1024&bih=499
if that link doesn’t work, it currently says fog:
Current: Fog
Wind: S at 8 mph
Humidity: 88%
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I live in Tokyo with our family. I read enenews as well as all Japanese newspapers and many foreign newspapers too. I want to know if anyone has links to reputable documentaries or interviews that I could watch in order to assess our risk in staying here just until 2012 when we will leave.
Please only post high quality information, not Joe Bloggs screaming into a youtube video that the end is nigh. I would really appreciate genuine, thoughtful responses.
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Sounds like you already know what you want to hear.
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Of course I don’t want to hear the worst. Would you? I do want to hear real news bad or not though. The other day I read someone denying the earthquake even happened. So believe me, Joe Blogg type Youtube videos get very old in this context. So I want to hear real information. Fair enough don’t you think?
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How can you tell what information is real, and what isn’t? Whatever answer you want to hear, you can find on the internet. If you want to hear that everything’s ok, no problem. There’s plenty of that to find. Want to hear that the world will end tomorrow? No problem. There’s plenty of that too. So take your pick. If you stay there long enough, you’ll have first hand information, and that may be the only reliable information you’ll ever find. But it may be too late by the time you know anything for sure. Or you can follow your instincts. What do they tell you? Your instincts are probably the best source of information you’ll ever have. Particularly in a life or death emergency, they may be the only source of information worth listening to.
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Every source of information has an agenda. Some are good, and some are evil. And some are really good at hiding what that agenda is. Your instincts on the other hand, are pretty honest. Your instincts want you to survive.
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Excellent point! But, I understand how you have to link that “gut feeling” to some logical facts, too.
The people who most often survive criminal attacks are the ones who listened to their gut…
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thoughts – I know what you mean. I’ve learned to listen to my gut feelings first. But I still like to understand where those feelings are coming from. And understanding does help. But sometimes you just need to act first, and figure it out later.
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No one can tell you what is going to happen with any real degree of certainty. Not even TEPCO knows for sure. That said, there is certainly a risk with being in Tokyo. If the SHTF are you going to be able to get out of there with 13 million other people trying to do the same?
I left Tokyo and Japan about 6 weeks ago to get away from this very thing. Who knows, things may settle down and leaving may not be necessary but do you want to be on the wrong side of that bet?
I didn’t and that is why I left my life of over 10 years in Japan.
I love Japan, the people and way of life but I am not willing to risk the lives of my family and myself over the lies and incompetence of the Japanese government and TEPCO. Many foreigners may label me a coward/traitor but I did what I felt was the best choice at the time.
Now in Northe America I am still very depressed as I miss Japan, my friends and extended family. I do feel a sense of guilt for having left but I know I had know choice and I could not take everyone with me, only my immediate family.
How the people of Japan can just sit there and let their government and TEPCO literally destroy their country though, is beyond me. This is truly the saddest event in modern times.
I will add that my family and friends here, thanks to the media, think that it is no big deal and that I am crazy for being concerned about radioactive fallout reaching here. They even suggested I should consider counseling regarding this as I must be traumatized and that is causing my unfounded worry. Ugh.
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Wonderfully written. Compelling story. Thank you very much.
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where are you Steve (state)? Many of us here are deeply saddened by the ongoing poisoning of our planet.
1 in 6 kids in the US now has a “developmental” disability. This is not simply a result of better diagnoses.
Fracking, the gulf oil spill, bt GM corn and soy, nuclear, etc. are creating human-made eco-disasters which will ultimately effect us all, some more directly than others.
Some people don’t want to know about these disasters but this stance will ensure our eventual demise.
So, take comfort in your loved ones, enjoy your life, and don’t feel guilty or shamed by knowledge others are to fearful, lazy or selfish to acknowledge
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steve – There’s absolutely NOTHING wrong with trying to survive. It’s one of the most basic instincts we have. And you can’t wait around waiting for everyone else to figure out they’re in danger. By then it’ll be too late. You can tell them what you know, and then set a good example by LEAVING. Actions speak louder than words, and hopefully your actions will get it through some peoples’ thick skulls that there really is a problem.
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Thanks Dan honey. You are a doll.
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Your welcome. And sorry about all the ranting:)
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You have done the right thing. I have left and came back in May, but now I think the worst is yet to come, even if the plant where under control from tomorrow. Too much stuff on the ground and sea. The Japan you and I love so much has changed. It is on the Japanese, not on us to sort it out now.
I hear you re. the trauma. You shouldn’t worry much about where you are right now. Don’t be afraid to seek counseling , it is a traumatic experience for all of us. Good luck.
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I think you have done the right thing too. We left and came back just like pAnic which just brings us back to square one. I wouldn’t hesitate to get help either. It is incredibly hard to lose something so special. I used to live in Fukushima before all this mess and am really heartbroken about what has become of what used to be an absolutely magic place. I wanted to come back and help and am helping students each week. So it just isn’t the simple decision so many present here which I know you understand. Once we do leave I will probably need help!!
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Sir,you made the correct decision to leave Japan.
your family and friends are brain-washed sheep…and it is they who need to be examined.
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Do you have young children?? Do they follow directions to the letter when unsupervised? Do you have anyone in the family who is immuno-compromised? Anyone who has had a lot of radiation via X-rays, mammograms, long flights, CT scans? Anyone who has a genetic predisposition to cancer? Do you have good health insurance and tolerance for medical treatment? Do you want to have more children? Do you have vulnerable pets?
Are you diligent about filtering your water, air, cleaning, decontamination, covering your head, hair, and skin? Do you have access to real N95 masks or respirators? Can you work remotely or work from home? Can you order in food and consumer goods? How much exposure do you think you’ve already had?….
It’s really up to you, but I think if you have young kids and any concerns about their pre-existing immune system, prior injury, or genetics, the balance weighs against staying… Only YOU can know your comfort level.
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Bottomline, I think it comes down to the age and condition of family members. The younger they are, the more vulnerable they are to ongoing, elevated radiation… You can modify your lifestyle habits, but a child’s age is a factor that you just can’t change! good luck!
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Thank you. I only buy frozen imported meet, vegetables from southern prefectures, no processed food at all, dairy products from Hokkaido and only bottles water.
According to statistics we read, there is no more radiation in the air in Tokyo now than in a city like New York, for example. Radiation hasn’t been detected in water in Tokyo since the one time in March.
I do live with all these new habits and am taking care, just like many people here. Millions of people are here. We are not all ‘thick’ as Dan so elloquently wrote. We have our car packed and are ready to leave in a moment as we did straight after the last explosions.
Blah. I can just hear myself and it annoys even me. The truth is, I need to convince others around me to leave which is why I need more solid information.
You guys are all very sure of the situation. So where exactly have you gotten your information from? That is what I need to know.
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There is Plutonium and Strontium all the way over here in North America. They are potentially deadly carcinogens. Surely if they have made it over 4500 miles across the sea it HAS to be present in Japan.
Good luck to you and yours.
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What’s your source for the Plutonium and Strontium detection in the US please? What you have there might not be new stuff, but weapons testing from 1960s. Plutonium is HEAVY, it cannot travel thousands of miles over the ocean without an extremely intensive explosion (not the “puffs” we had at F).
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SOURCE FOR PLUTONIUM READINGS
http://opendata.socrata.com/Government/Plutonium-238-Radiation-Data-from-EPA-RadNet-Radia/wxwh-beqe
It does seem as if Plutonium made it all the way here on the West Coast of N America.
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I hear you Panic, I posted something here yesterday that stated there is an estimated 3 million individual doses emitted to date of Plutonium. Of course, how can I verify that!? I was surprised to learn the Plutonium could *fly* but the article suggested it was vaporized when the explosions occurred and up and over it went. Believe me, I don’t want to be right about any of this.
I also noticed the search bar is pretty effective here if you want to validate info on past post subjects. Finding individual posts is another story!
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Here are some of the better links I’ve found, that may help to give you a better understanding of what’s happening. At least they helped me. It may be different for you though, since everyone has their own way of understanding things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITrXVJMKeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jUELZAdh_w
http://fairewinds.com/
http://fairewinds.com/content/seven-wing-presentation-tmi-health-effects
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I just posted some links, but my comment has a note on it saying “Your comment is awaiting moderation”. I’ll post the first one again, after I post this. And hopefully the others will eventually get approved.
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This is the first one I posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITrXVJMKeQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jUELZAdh_w
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http://fairewinds.com/
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http://fairewinds.com/content/seven-wing-presentation-tmi-health-effects
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I would get out now. Noone knows for sure what will happen. And by the time you find a source of information reliable enough to know for sure, it’ll be too late.
I live in the US, and even I’m worried. So looking at your situation, from the outside, it’s completely obvious to me that anyone in Tokyo is in very serious danger RIGHT NOW.
Or you can think of it this way. What would you, someone living in Tokyo, tell someone who was living a couple miles from the power plants, and was thinking of leaving sometime next year? Would you think they were maybe just a little bit crazy, thinking it might be ok for a while? That’s what it seems like to me, a person living in the US, reading your question about whether or not you should leave Tokyo sometime in 2012. It just seems so obvious that you need to get out NOW. Anyway, that’s my advice, and I sincerely hope you get out in time. And if you think you need time to get all your stuff together, so you can bring it with you, forget about it. It could all be contaminated, and you’d have no way of knowing. Not even if you scanned everything with a geiger counter.
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Agreed or stay and take your chances.
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I agree with Dan. You have to get out now.
Start looking at flights – as far away from Tokyo as possible.
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Hi you there in Tokyo,
i have the impression that reliable info nowadays is just impossible to get. Are there no independent labs in Japan (like CRIIRAD in France) who take readings and could give an outlook – if that’s possible, things could develop very quickly in the worst case.
Take care. There’s no Day we’re not thinking of all of you in Japan.
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It is factual that tea leaves are full of radiation 40km South of Tokyo, and that the IAEA just said that no level of radiation is safe.
If it were me, I’d leave Tokyo, especially with rainy season coming up.
Sounds horrible, but the truth is ugly sometimes.
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Very true
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We running out of easy decisions it seems.
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Thanks PU239. That is a good point. I shall add it to my list!
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Maybe you should also consider this document as a part of your list. I guess this is the type of “pro” information You’re looking for.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73540337/radiation-leak-in-Japan
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In Tokyo I don’t think there is much concern with radiation, except slightly elevated towards the east going into Chiba (hotspot). I am doing daily measurements and just came from Tokyo today (Shinagawa, very low readings).
However, there is contamination and particles that might be harmful in the ground.
In Tokyo, my primary concern would be food. Many prefectures around Tokyo, where the fruit and veg come from, have now uncomfortable high levels of contamination (the tea news is just one). The government is planning to raise the permissable limits, which should tell you how things are going.
As adults, perhaps not much to worry. If you have kids, I would not be comfortable staying longer than another 3-6 months. Personally I am planning to move within sixty days (my area has about 5-10 times contamination level compared to Tokyo).
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Hey pAnic. The main risk, right now, is the food/drink. I saw this coming 2 months ago as Japan has a very spotty record when it comes to this sort of thing (expiration dates and country of origin labels on food). I knew that contaminated food would get into the populace and low and behold it has happened already from what we have seen in several reports (spinach, tea, etc). This is likely only the tip of the iceberg.
As much as I did not care for the idea of coming back to North America (holy reverse culture shock I am experiencing now), I knew I had no choice as this was a major vector for contamination that will not be thoroughly controlled.
Add to this the fact that at least 3 of the reactors still have radioactive fuel (corium form even) in the open air makes this a recipe for disaster. I have said it before and I will say it again, I love Japan with all my heart but I am not willing to put the health of my family and myself at risk.
I hope with all my heart that this gets resolved and somehow Japan can return to a non-risk situation (Tokyo and below anyway) in terms of radioactive contamination. But at this point I think that is a dream. It hurts me to say this and I will admit I have cried many a time (pretty much daily) about this. I have extended family there and many friends and coworkers so it is extremely hard to think about.
I treasure every moment I spent in Japan and only wish I spent more of it outside instead of in the office or in front of a monitor now…sigh. Ok, I am babbling.
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I feel the same. Thanks Steve. We are from the side that knows not only that this is a nuclear disaster but also what is being lost here. I cry daily too.
And Dan, thank you for all the links. I will settle in and watch them now.
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Steve – we are all in the same boat on this. I am slowly getting round to the idea that my home is no longer here for me. I have built up a business over six years which is thriving. This will all have to go. I have been having sleepless nights forever, it is a nightmare. But I have 1y and 6y kids, they cannot stay here. I have to face the inevitable.
Have a look at this guy, funny accent but he makes some very good points: http://www.youtube.com/user/playbacklapompe
Japanese are picky when it comes to food and controls actually quite strict. With this one they are stumped. Their primary concern is keeping the economic engine ongoing, worrying about health of population later. There is no other way to do this.
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The results showed that snow in 14 locations contained more than 200 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, the adult safe limit for drinking water.
A sample of snow from an altitude of 1,300 meters contained 3,000 becquerels of cesium
SNOW THAT KILLS
RAIN THAT KILLS
ITS ALL ACCUMULATING
GET OUT NOW !!!!
YOU MUST PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN
I KNOW IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO LEAVE YOUR GOOD LIFE BUT IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO LIVE IN FEAR OF YOUR CHILDREN GETTING SICK IN 10 YEARS TIME
SAFETY BY DISTANCE AND DILUTION IS NON EXISTENT !!!!!
TAKE THE BIG STEP AND JUMP
YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK IN REGRET
ALL THE BEST
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pAnic. I am so sorry to hear about the impact it will have to your business and life. I feel your pain and know how difficult this is for you.
If it was anything other than a nuclear event (of Godzilla himself), nothing could have made me leave Japan. I could handle the earthquakes even though I was getting rather “drunk” from the many aftershocks (even thinking the ground was shaking when it was not).
I am in my home country now but my future career is a big “??” and that is a huge stress going forward so I imagine you are feeling/thinking the same. But, frankly, I would rather deal with that than live in fear of radioactive contamination and being lied to by the J-gov and TEPCO (not that I trust my own gov to tell me the truth about fallout here but increasing your distance from the source is best).
You have two kids and they are what you and your wife are living for. You must protect them and their futures so you have to do what is best.
Any chance of running your business from abroad and doing a “look and see” on how things work out in Japan?
I have been watching Alex’s videos from day one and they provided me much needed therapy while I was in Japan and extremely stressed. My heart goes out to him as well.
I often wonder how many other foreigners have/are going through this same harrowing ordeal as we do not see/hear many stories like Alex’s or our own.
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Thanks Steve, be well… we will have to go through this in our own way. What it shows to me is that even after all these years we are and always will be strangers here or there, but that is the path we have chosen. Our Japanese friends are with us on this, doing it their way. As Alex says in the last vid, we have no choice. Those who can leave, don’t want to, those who have to stay don’t want to. It is an inhumane affair through and through. I am setting up to leave within the next eight weeks, just have some winding down to do and arrange things for the other side. I am not worried about career – I always say “I don’t have a career, I have a life” so I am trying to shape things positively for us going forward. Good luck.
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I’m too sleepy to look up the links, but Arnie Gunderson does weekly videos – he’s a nuclear engineer. Michio Kaku has a website and a few interviews, though in general he seems to be “hawking” his new book (he’s a world renowned physicist and spends much of his time popularizing physics, much like Hawking.
Google them.
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Genuine Call, see the just below or just above post by me, answering your original question (I didn’t know it was going to end up so far down the page!)
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Get out, if you can. All ofthe information for why is here and on other sites. Why do you dither?
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Factual information seems very hard to find. For instance, the world is still hoping some brave Japanese people were able to video during the earthquake – do you know of any coastal town news sources who documented what happened between the m9 earthquake and the subsequent tsunami?
As for what to do for your future, I would be inclined to carefully study the most recent reports from Chernobyl – then multiply by three for every day Daiichi continues to emit radiation.
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What do you mean about the earthquake not being documented? What do you need?
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“I read enenews as well as all Japanese newspapers and many foreign newspapers too.”
I’m with sassyiam above: it sounds like you already know what you want to hear. If you are really reading all of the above sources, including Japanese newspapers in Japanese, there is almost certainly nothing new anybody here can add to your information.
I’m also puzzled by a curious inconsistency in your story and a surprising omission in your modified shopping habits, which are otherwise very detailed. I’m not saying it’s untrue, just puzzling. I’m also not sure why you’d tell us you’ve set a leaving date in 2012, without telling us when or why. Perhaps you could fill us in?
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MONO
Do tell me what my inconsistencies are. Please keep in mind that I am bashing out these messages while I am work and on the train! So perhaps I have missed some crucial detail. What is it you are alluding to? My date for leaving is late December/ early January. Please let me know.
And you are incorrect in that people can add nothing new. There was an excellent link posted yesterday that showed radiation readings all over Tokyo posted by the communist party here. I hadn’t seen it and although the news from that is not good, I am happy to have read it. If it is that easy to find good information about Tokyo, why don’t you post some yourself?
I can fill you in once you tell me the gaps. See ya.
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HI again MONO,
I just realized the inconsistency you may be thinking of. No our family is not on the atkins diet. Ironically, before the earthquake we had received (as always) bags of rice from Fukushima where our friends live. We never have to buy rice. Well we will have to now. So we are still eating that rice. I buy American rice flour to make egg free bread (I can’t eat wheat), we don’t buy bread, I buy foreign spaghetti, potatoes are from Hokkaido. Being on a wheat free diet I am used to shopping slowly and carefully and reading every single label.
I had forgotten about shopping for these things because the daily shopping trips don’t include these things- except potatoes.
The interesting site I referred to above was http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/.
So believe me MONO. I am not some crack pot doing this for fun. I have a life. Or at least I had one and I am just trying to reassess where to go from here and when to go. Are the next few months in Tokyo crucial in the scheme of things is what I need to know.
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Call for information in Tokyo
I agree with you – its a huge change and move to consider, never mind plan and execute. I don’t envy your task and really hope we don’t have the same fate in North America in the future. Perhaps at that time it will be you giving us guidance on how to evacuate and pick our lives back up again. I always try to see something positive if possible.
You will know what to do ultimately. I think the hard facts all point one direction though…
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Fermilab again, depop dosage not hi enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rc37dRCI4w
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I guess the ocean is off to the right in this view:
Live Cam – Fukushima (Tepco)
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index-e.html
Behind the camera in this view:
Live Cam – Fukushima(TBS JNN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg
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i think you have those switched around. it is to the right of the tbs/jnn cam
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your right there is FOG spewing out of the busted reactors
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NO EXPOSURE IS SAFE
http://www.suite101.com/content/radiation-danger-from-nuclear-power-plant-emissions-a359442
No exposure to radiation can be considered absolutely safe. “Any amount of radiation can be dangerous because of the potential effect that it has on living cells” (Everyday Exposure to Radiation, chem.duke.edu). The body can usually, but not always, repair damage from low dose radiation. “Any living tissue in the human body can be damaged by ionizing radiation in a unique manner. The body attempts to repair the damage, but sometimes the damage is of a nature that cannot be repaired or it is too severe or widespread to be repaired. Also mistakes made in the natural repair process can lead to cancerous cells” (Radiation Protection: Health Effects, EPA, epa.gov).
On the other hand, we are constantly exposed to cosmic rays, which are basically the same as fission product radiation. Furthermore, there is very low level exposure from common sources: granite, smoke detectors, exit signs and many more (Gamble, jack, “Safe Levels of Radiation,” nuclearfissionary.com). And of course we’re all familiar with medical uses of x-rays.
Read more at Suite101: Radiation Danger from Nuclear Power Plant Emissions | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/content/radiation-danger-from-nuclear-power-plant-emissions-a359442#ixzz1OC2Xxpmi
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FEWER GIRLS BORN DUE TO NUCLEAR RADIATION
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110602-millions-fewer-girls-nuclear-radiation-births-science/
Ker Than
for National Geographic News
Published June 2, 2011
Nuclear radiation from bomb tests and power plant accidents causes slightly more boys than girls to be born, a new study suggests. While effects were seen to be regional for incidents on the ground, like Chernobyl, atmospheric blasts were found to affect birth rates on a global scale.
The result: Millions fewer females have been born worldwide than would otherwise be expected, researchers estimate. And given Japan’s current nuclear troubles, another boy boomlet could be on the way, experts say.
(Related: Is this the world’s most dangerous nuclear plant?)
For the new study, scientists analyzed population data from 1975 to 2007 for 39 European countries and the United States.
They found an increase in the number of male births relative to female births in all of the countries investigated from 1964 to 1975—and in many eastern European countries for several years after 1986.
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THE WORLD’S MOST DANGEROUS NUCLEAR PLANT?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2011/04/110412-most-dangerous-nuclear-plant-armenia/
Marianne Lavelle and Josie Garthwaite
For National Geographic News
Published April 11, 2011
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This story is part of a special series that explores energy issues. For more, visit The Great Energy Challenge.
In the shadow of Mount Ararat, the beloved and sorrowful national symbol of Armenia, stands a 31-year-old nuclear plant that is no less an emblem of the country’s resolve and its woe.
(Related: Armenia Guide)
The Metsamor power station is one of a mere handful of remaining nuclear reactors of its kind that were built without primary containment structures. All five of these first-generation water-moderated Soviet units are past or near their original retirement ages, but one salient fact sets Armenia’s reactor apart from the four in Russia.
Metsamor lies on some of Earth’s most earthquake-prone terrain.
In the wake of Japan’s quake-and-tsunami-triggered Fukushima Daiichi crisis, Armenia’s government faces renewed questions from those who say the fateful combination of design and location make Metsamor among the most dangerous nuclear plants in the world.
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What is it with nuclear engineers and their fanatical drive to place nuclear reactors on the most dangerous faultlines where they will inevitably encounter a quake? I guess they must mostly be Aspergers types who just don’t give a shit about possible consequences.
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It’s not engineers, nuclear or otherwise, who ever decide by themselves where to build things such as nuclear plants. Engineers may make recommendations, based on cost estimates and technical issues, but it’s always their bosses and often the funding agencies such as banks, who review recommendations, and take the big decisions, such as location, based on financial criteria including projected return on investment, payback period, key (financial) risks, competition, etc.
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Well put – these are the ‘people’ terminally responsible for this diabolical ‘policy’:-
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html
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In the shadow of Mount Ararat, the beloved and sorrowful national symbol of Armenia, stands a 31-year-old nuclear plant that is no less an emblem of the country’s resolve and its woe.
The Metsamor power station is one of a mere handful of remaining nuclear reactors of its kind that were built without primary containment structures. All five of these first-generation water-moderated Soviet units are past or near their original retirement ages, but one salient fact sets Armenia’s reactor apart from the four in Russia.
Metsamor lies on some of Earth’s most earthquake-prone terrain.
In the wake of Japan’s quake-and-tsunami-triggered Fukushima Daiichi crisis, Armenia’s government faces renewed questions from those who say the fateful combination of design and location make Metsamor among the most dangerous nuclear plants in the world.
Seven years ago, the European Union’s envoy was quoted as calling the facility “a danger to the entire region,” but Armenia later turned down the EU’s offer of a 200 million euro ($289 million) loan to finance Metsamor’s shutdown. The United States government, which has called the plant “aging and dangerous,” underwrote a study that urged construction of a new one.
Plans to replace Metsamor after 2016—with a new nuclear plant at the same location—are under way. But until then, Armenia has little choice but to keep Metsamor’s turbines turning. As Armenians learned in the bone-chilling cold and dark days when the plant was closed down for several years, Metsamor provides more than 40 percent of power for a nation that is isolated from its neighbors and closed off from other sources of energy.
“People compare the potential risk with the potential shortage of electricity that might arise if the plant were closed,” says Ara Tadevosyan, director of Mediamax, a major Armenian news agency. “Having had this negative experience, people prefer to live with it, and believe that it will not be damaged in an earthquake…
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Since 311 the problems seem to be popping up all over the globe. I cant imagine going through this over and over and over and over and over………
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Interesting PU239 thank you
All Nuclear Power Plants need to be shut down.
We have to stop contaminating this world that we live in.
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STAN MONTEITH & DR RUSSELL BLAYLOCK – NUCLEAR THREAT OF FUKUSHIMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKAVtK_kTzo
(4 PARTS)
Well worth listening to ….
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This video has me in tears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-eQTthfDhM
Sorry but it is in Japanese. It is a series of interviews of mothers in Fukushima pleading for the government to tell them the truth that they can live safely where they are. Some people are about 50km for Fukushima.
This is a crime against humanity. It is beyond acceptable.
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It’s a war against 90% of humanity – the rest might consider themselves safe taking DARPA medical concoctions and living in underground cities.
For a while.
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Nuclear Power plants have also been built around the Great Lakes, and will poison most of the freshwater on this planet should they have ‘accidents’. The Darlington reactor in Canada leaked radioactive water into Lake Ontario the day after Fukushima, but they were able to sneak that news out to *no* response as a result of the people’s attention being directed elsewhere.
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Nuclear plants are always leaking some radiation. The government gives them permits that allow them to leak up to a certain amount every year. If they exceed the amount, they have to report the leak to government. Are you saying the Darlington plant leaked more than its annual permitted amount, and yet nobody reported that fact?? That seems pretty unlikely given the huge sensitivities after Fukushima. Do you know how much radiation was leaked? How did you hear about it? Don’t be shy! Tell us the details here instead of keeping them to yourself.
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Accident at Darlington nuclear plant on Lake Ontario:
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110317/pickering-nuclear-leak-lake-ontario-110317/20110317/?hub=TorontoNewHome
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Does the response sound familiar?
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http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/radiation-in-tokyo-as-measured-by.html
recent radiation readings in and around tokyo
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Gosh ! 104 comments on this non-existing news. The earthquake was far enough from the coast that no shake was registered inland, not even level 1. Congratulations to the brave and cold blood commentators! Shure rely on your precious expertise to make a better world ! 104 bugs !
The quake was’nt listed, that’s all. No plot, no lies, see for instance http://typhoon.yahoo.co.jp/weather/jp/earthquake/ and check the time with your big brains.
Did you scream about this quake, bunch of dudes, or were you having breakfast ? http://typhoon.yahoo.co.jp/weather/jp/earthquake/2011-06-04-01-00.html
Put on your winter socks and go for a nap.
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