TV: “Could it really happen?” State of Washington testing CLAMS for Fukushima radiation — Salmon and steelhead also — Will continue “until public concern abates” (VIDEO)

Published: May 7th, 2012 at 10:34 pm ET
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Washington fish tested for tsunami-related radiation
KING 5 News
GLENN FARLEY
May 7, 2012

Do salmon and steelhead returning to Washington rivers come with a dose of radiation from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant? Washington State Department of Health officials don’t think so, but they’re testing fish anyway. [...]

“We’re planning on collecting returning salmon and steelhead until public concern abates,” said Mike Priddy, the Richland-based manager of DOH’s Environmental Sciences Section.

Priddy said clams will also be tested.

As for that steelhead tested in lab, no radiation beyond normal background levels found naturally was detected.

Did the clams swim over from Japan?

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107 comments to TV: “Could it really happen?” State of Washington testing CLAMS for Fukushima radiation — Salmon and steelhead also — Will continue “until public concern abates” (VIDEO)

  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    They are going to test for something they do not believe is there? Gee I hope the assumption doesn't skew the tests.


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    • americancommntr

      “We’re planning on collecting returning salmon and steelhead until public concern abates,” ….

      Sounds like a typical state government employee attitude, and the higher one goes the more the attitude.

      Bothered to have to do it. Normally wouldn't do it. Normally wouldn't have done it if somebody higher up hadn't got a complaint. Just doing it to placate the public. Will stop when the public quits having its hissy fit of hysteria.

      Normally just collect a salary about 150% of the normal private sector salary, or more, and not counting benefits.

      And no radiation beyond normal levels, found in steelhead. Right, triple meltout, exploded spent fuel pool, parts of west coast as contaminated as Japan, depleted uranium fires up the wazoo, all rained out, too.

      What could be expected from a health department, though? Pushing 36 vaccinations by age 2 or 4, even when they know 1 in 86 kids will be hit in the head with the sledgehammer of autism? That'll be a fine pharmaceutical and hospital pot of money to treat under Democratcare, won't it?

      Most government agencies should just be shut down and the money saved.


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  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    If they find radiation, the public concern will not abate.


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  • Dogleg Dogleg

    Why is it they can test the fish over the weekend, but months later we are still waiting the results for the Alaskan seals and bears


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  • hbjon hbjon

    An honest test would be to catch a fish on live camera. Filet a section of skin off it. Conduct a flame spectroscopy on the spot (spectroscope). It would be easy to determine the composition by matching the spectrums to varius radioactive isotopes. The fingerprints of Uranium, Plutonium, Curium, and all the rest, would be concrete evidence.


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    • voltscommissar

      AFAIK radiation spectrometry is different: you put the sample inside a lead pot, containing high purity germanium sensors. These sensors can discriminate between different energy levels of gamma rays coming from decay events of various energy levels depending on the radionuclide, even depending on which pathway by which it "decides" to decay.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium-137

      Gamma rays are detected with cryogenically cooled high purity germanium sensors. "Mechanically cooled" is also mentioned, so this is probably a Stirling heat pump device. http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/seta/2002/05/02/stories/2002050200080200.htm

      Apparently lab-based beta spectrometry uses "plastic scintillation" and adjustable magnetic fields to sort electrons (beta particles) according to their energy (momentum). Genuine "curve ball" behaviour of electrons. Clever, huh? http://www.advancedlab.org/mediawiki/index.php/Beta_Ray_Spectroscopy

      but yes, we should be getting heaps more testing of seafoods, heaps more transparency, heaps more disclosure. I wish…


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      • SnorkY2K

        Some cryo cooling may be magneto caloric. Also, I had a lab do electron microscope scans of some parts that I made. During the scan, they ran x-ray backscatter analysis that identified the elements present almost like spectroscopy.


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  • bigfatscaryman bigfatscaryman

    YEAAAH, yep yep…..first the gotta do some re callibratin' and tinkerin with them thingamagigs and deelybobbers that go beep and boop, THEN they can commence to der testin…


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  • Dogleg Dogleg

    How much for one of those spectro flame thrower things?


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    • hbjon hbjon

      In our great democratic nation, we paid our hard earned taxes to our government so they can protect us with that equipment. You need to go to the authorities and politely ask them to turn them on, or hand them over to someone that will.


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  • What-About-The-Kids

    Thanks for posting this, Admin. As a resident of WA state, I will be following this story closely.

    A couple of things which caught my eye and concern me:

    1. They found nothing over naturally occurring background levels of radiation. How many times have we heard this now? What exactly qualifies as "natural background radiation" levels for our fish in WA state anyway? So they're saying our fish DO have radiation in them? Yum…

    2. While I'm sure he is a nice guy, the fact that the person running the tests is a "health physicist" gives me pause. From what I've learned over the past year, health physicists seem to be hired by the nuclear industry to "reassure" the public and to NEVER, EVER admit to finding ANY "unsafe" levels of radiation which the public is exposed to.

    How can we be reassured the testing is being done properly and the results are being reported accurately?

    http://www.doh.wa.gov/phweek/2010/erma.htm

    Interesting that the link to the Radiation Testing services page on the State lab's website is a broken link…Can we get that fixed, Wa.gov?

    http://www.doh.wa.gov/EHSPHL/PHL/ELS/Radiation.htm

    Thank you. :-)


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    • many moons

      "Washington fish tested for tsunami-related radiation" I had no idea tsunamis were radioactive! Could the report really be about the 3 way nuclear reactor accident's radiation??


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Yeah, what the heck is that supposed to mean? Internal exposure is a totally different thing!

      What a ridiculous statement, "nothing above background levels." That's absurd!


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    • jec jec

      Last year I requested data on radiation/water from the authorities in Wash. State. They reviewed data, came back with "all normal" but wanted to "follow" my family (give us your family names, locations, medical history). This because of the significant birth defects and cancer history. In fact most or all offspring have some sort of birth defect –if they survived.
      So…didnt not provide personal data–if they want to "follow" or such..they need to start with ALL the families with birth defects and fetal/natal deaths.


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    • Plan Nine

      But you gotta love that website address – D'OH!!!


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  • many moons

    How can we be reassured the testing is being done properly and the results are being reported accurately?

    You can be reassured by connecting the dots and using your common sense. Why are so many marine animals dying? Why is the kelp in California radioactive? Didn't the USS ronald Reagan at 100 miles out to sea get hit with a huge amount of radioactivity. Why were the radnets shut off. And didn't the goverment admit that telling the truth about radioactivity was an injury to the economics. I don't see anything that spells out "I'm sure this fish is fine" If these fish aren't radioactive today they will be/may be tomorrow (as Dr Caldcott points out fish swim large distances)


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    • Dogleg Dogleg

      Bout sumed it in one short paragraph moon. Nicely done


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      I know, Many Moons. That is why we need to keep pushing for the REAL data, not just reassurances.

      Yeah, loved how you caught that headline "tsunami-related." Though they did mention the nuclear reactors in the article. :-)

      But get this:

      (snip)

      "In the days following the 2011 Japan tsunami, the damaged Fukushima plant was cooled with seawater to try and get it back under control. That sent large quantities of contaminated water into the Pacific Ocean."

      Uh, yes, but they forgot to mention the other 400± days Fuku's reactors and spent fuel pools as well as run off from the fallout in the mountains, and rivers and streams CONTINUE to send large quantities of contaminated water into the Pacific…

      Just a small detail, of course. /sarc


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      • many moons

        You are right on it What about the kids!
        The days following…Really!


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        • What-About-The-Kids

          Put yourself in the shoes of the 98% or so of the American public who are as of yet "uninitiated" into the Wide Awake Fuku Club.

          These harmless little minor details that are missing makes it seem that, "Well, it WAS a long time ago, and far, far away…so SURELY it all must have fallen to the bottom of the ocean near Japan or diluted so much as to not be a concern for us all the way across the Pacific…"

          Little subtleties that would be lost on the uninitiated.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Why did the governor of the State of California declare a state of emergency before the radiation cloud hit on 3/18/11 (actually came in starting on 3/15/11) and no one living here seemed to know about it?


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    • Sickputer

      Mm sez…"Why were the radnets shut off?"

      SP: even more telling… Why does the Republican candidate for president fail to use issues like Radnet being such a coverup? Answer: Because they all answer to the same masters.

      Even information that would swing an election is taboo for politicians because the real leaders… The captains of industry…have virtually every politician slobbering like Pavlov's dogs, Eager to please and willing to lie at the drop of a hat.

      And it's such an entrenched system in the USA, Russia, France, China, South Korea, India, Canada, Australia, etc… that breaking the nuclear cabal may well require an event like The Fallout Age to destroy the economic and social fabric of those countries. World War III is not necessary… Just a huge depopulation event. The thugs with a badge bombed themselves,


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  • Sickputer

    Glenn Farley in that article writes:

    "In the days following the 2011 Japan tsunami, the damaged Fukushima plant was cooled with seawater to try and get it back under control. That sent large quantities of contaminated water into the Pacific Ocean."

    SP: Glenn…the correct syntex is "In ALL 400-plus days since the Great East Japan Earthquake crippled the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant, radioactive water has continued to leak unabated into the Pacific Ocean 100 yards from the still burning reactors".

    He could have added this tidbit: "The early emergency use of seawater at Fukushima was halted and fresh water imported on barges after the discovery of extremely elevated levels of radioactive sulfur-35 in the air current above La Jolla, California.. Scientists noted that "Sulfur-35 is absorbed by the entire body but is of particular concern to men because it tends to concentrate in the testicles".

    Credit: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2011/08/16/wheres-that-radioactive-sulfur-now-possibly-in-your-pants/


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      LOL Good catch, Sickputer! :-D Great minds think alike! See my post above.

      Ouch! That little reminder about the tendency of certain isotopes to build up in the most inconvenient places is a good one. (Women's ovaries are also a collector of various such isotopes as well.) :-(


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    • labmonkeywithagun labmonkeywithagun

      Notice they are testing for the wrong stuff??
      I-131….gone
      Cesium probably won't bio-concentrate in seawater (enough potassium around that it will "flush out").

      How about strontium? We know that has been dumped on a few leaks now, plus it tends to follow water where iodine in cesium go airborne much easier.
      The ground water plume flowing across the coriums have a whole bunch more goodies then I want to imagine.


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      • Dogleg Dogleg

        What I was thinking also. Didn't the test read potassium? I believe strontium mimics potassium in nature, dont know if it may show as potassium in test. Just a thought.


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  • Max1 Max1

    Hi all.

    I'm going with the, "Better late than never…" adage.
    It shall prove to be interesting as time goes on. Independent testing vs. Government testing. Let the results speak for themselves ONCE independently verified.

    The rules of the game have changed folks. Profits ARE the bottom line in the energy business. Have always been… We're just counting the ways the evils of profit over people play out over, and over again the levels of "trust" around the globe in our Elite Ruling Class is plummeting.

    It becomes political when the so called PTB have human life in their hands… It crosses over into Criminal when the PTB decide people are disposable, expendable, you know, collateral damage to the greater goal… PROFITS.

    As a Seattle resident I will say, I'm glad some local news organization gave us some glimpse of the situ at hand. I must say, however, Corporate Media spin is in full gear at King 5.

    Contamination from … The tsunami? As many moons pointed out.

    Makes you feel all warm and safe, doesn't it. Notice King 5 never mentioned that all four buildings are currently directly contaminating the environment and have been doing so for almost 14 continuous months. That's called SPIN and PROPAGANDA.

    Imagine what REALLY discussing the threats Fuku poses to human life can do to Obama's "GREEN ENERGY" policy and his loyal followers? Elections to win… Supporters to spin.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      I hear ya, Max1. Really warm and fuzzy. Yeah, sure.

      I too am a Seattle resident. And since moving here a couple of years ago, I've discovered our local media seems hypnotized by some strange wizard, as it rarely features hard hitting analysis about anything to do with the nuclear industry. Seems completely "captured" as it were. There has been some recent coverage of the whistleblowers at Hanford suing their employers, but that appeared mainly in the public media.

      And yes, I agree. When profits trump the safety of the public, it becomes a crime and the perpetrators, criminals. And in the case of Fukushima, the perpetrators are criminals to the Nth degree, as their crimes are crimes against humanity and ecocide of our beautiful Mother Earth.

      Justice that must be served.


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      • Max1 Max1

        Each generation this ongoing disaster effects is a crime upon them and their future…
        … No go zones mitigate against that. Seems the PTB couldn't give a flying flip. Makes one question motives…

        The media in the US stinks… local to National. If it's owned by a Corporate entity, know that the interests of that Corporation are at stake when they serve you your daily rations. Independent media and outside news agencies at least provide a multi perspective view on reality.

        MEDIA SUCCESS…
        AMY GOODMAN mentioned Fuku today in her headlines…
        http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/7/headlines#575
        … That's all. :/


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        • arclight arclight

          @ max1

          "…On Saturday, Japan shut down its last nuclear plant,…"

          not quite i suspect?

          Research reactors
          Japan Atomic Energy Agency (JAEA) Reactors
          Tōkai JRR-1 (Japan Research Reactor No. 1, shut down)
          Tōkai JRR-2 (shut down)
          Tōkai JRR-3
          Tōkai JRR-4
          Tōkai JPDR (Japan Power Demonstration Reactor, shut down)
          Ōarai HTTR (High-Temp engineering Test Reactor)
          Ōarai JMTR (Japan Materials Testing Reactor)
          Naka JT-60 fusion reactor
          Nuclear Safety Research Reactor
          Fugen (ATR (Advanced Thermal Reactor), shut down)
          Jōyō (FBR)
          Monju (FBR)
          Kinki University
          UTR-KINKI
          Kyoto University
          KUR
          Musashi Institute of Technology (Tokyo City University)
          MITRR (TRIGA-II) (shut down 1990)
          Rikkyo University
          RUR (TRIGA-II) (shut down)
          University of Tokyo
          Yayoi

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_reactors#Research_reactors_9


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  • many moons

    The dark side of capitalism….makes you wonder if communism wouldn't have been a kinder gentler road to take…


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    • Max1 Max1

      Complacency set the unchecked free to bring havoc to our lives…
      … It's time for a full court press and "check them".


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    • lam335 lam335

      re: "… makes you wonder if communism wouldn't have been a kinder gentler road to take…"

      The Communists' foray into nuclear didn't turn out so well either (i.e., Chernobyl?). Perhaps because they were short on money, they built reactors with no containment structures around them … and then one of them exploded massively, dumping the highest amounts of cesium, etc., on some of the other states (Belarus, Ukraine) that were *forced* to belong to their happy communist union. They also actively encouraged their own people to go outside to celebrate May Day just days after the accident, without informing them that it had occurred and fallout was in the air.

      The French socialized approach isn't great either. They have significant uranium contamination in certain spots across the country, and do you really think they would be any more honest/timely in informing the people if a significant accident/release occurred? Recall how tightly controlled the information released about that Marcoule accident last summer was.

      While it is true that part of the problem in Japan (and the US) is the corrupting influence of the industry's money on politicians and regulators, part of the problem is also that members of the government/ministry have so identified themselves with support for nuclear that their own reputation for competence/good judgment is on the line when something goes wrong with it. Thus, they have a personal incentive to downplay its significance, even aside from…


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      • lam335 lam335

        … even aside form the money.

        Admin: The character limit counter does not appear to be accurate. Several times I have written comments that appear to be within the limits, but then when they are posted a few words get cut off. (Not complaining, just bringing it to your attention). Thanks.


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  • arclight arclight

    3/29/2012
    Radiation Tests Find our Fish Very Safe

    Cesium 134 – None detected, or normal trace levels
    Most species – No Cesium 134 was reported above the low detectable level of 1.0 Bq/kg.
    Albacore – 1.4 Bq/kg
    Halibut – 1.3 Bq/kg
    The trace levels found in our albacore and halibut are less than 15% of the maximum combined level of Cesium 137 + 134 normally found in fish (10 Bq/kg).

    And those trace levels are just 0.1% of the FDA’s level of concern (DIL) for combined Cesium 137 + 134 levels in foods (1200 Bq/kg).

    Cesium 137 – None detected
    Any Cesium 137present fell below the detectable level (1.0 Bq/kg).

    Iodine 131 – None detected
    Any Iodine 131 present fell below the detectable level (2.0 Bq/kg).

    This means that all seafood tested contained less than 1.2% of the FDA’s Derived Intervention Level (DIL) for Iodine 131 (170 Bq/kg). Iodine 131 decays to safe forms within about two weeks after its creation."

    "The only exceptions were our Albacore Tuna and Halibut, which showed barely detectable levels of Cesium 134 … which fell well within the levels normally found in seafood."

    http://vitalchoice.com/shop/pc/articlesView.asp?id=1740

    normal levels of cesium 134?


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  • arclight arclight

    Radioactive Bioaccumulation
    in Clams
    along the Hanford Reach

    2005

    http://www.clarku.edu/mtafund/prodlib/hanford/HanfordClamReport.pdf


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    • arclight arclight

      "…5. Official dose limits on and calculations for internal alpha radioactivity in aquatic and riparian biota are not protective. A crucial problem is that official users of the Biota Dose Calculator can and do adjust internal factors, obtaining dose calculations that pass screening requirements.

      6. Unprotective biases of Hanford Site monitoring should be corrected, in order to manage the site well and to obtain an end state of clean-up that serves the public interest…"

      says it nicely i think?


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      • Max1 Max1

        Fungable numbers…
        … Like in Chernobyl.

        "If the dial says 6.5 Rads… Then it's 6.5 Rads."

        "But sir, that's as far as it goes. It could be more."

        "It's not more. It's 6.5 Rads. Just like the dial says. That's what I'm telling Moscow. 6.5 Rads."

        … Like that?

        Sociopaths will avoid admitting that they're wrong if lying earns a pay check.


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      • What-About-The-Kids

        Ooohhh! Goooood find, Arclight! Wow, I didn't know about the two activist groups who did this report! Lots to delve into here. They could be excellent resources to contact and learn more about radioactivity in the PNW.

        Thank you! You are amazing, as always. :-)

        G'nite. (for me) G'day for you!


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      • Anthony Anthony

        Good one Arclight! I think if it can contaminate seaweed on our coasts within days of the event, then of course shellfish and other seafood grown on our coasts are also vulnerable.


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        • arclight arclight

          @anthony

          i was kinda thinking that like norway sweden and finland radiological mob tried to blame fukushima then russia on the increased levels of isotopes found late in 2011.. it actually came from the hungary and mercoule incidents… smoke and mirrors!!

          hanford could cover up alot unless someone points out that contamination was already there!! :)

          and the monitoring in canada?? same thing!

          the fukushima hit was largely put down at the start of the summer imo (so far)

          and im really suspicious about the seal etc testing that does not yield results because the range of isotopes is too narrow.. not just gamma!

          i think a heavy beta emmitter may have caused the illness.. why the delay when the eyes of the world are watching?? last i heard the named laboratory hadnt recieved the samples??

          err, food for thought maybe??


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          • arclight arclight

            im also suspicious of the damage to the sea floor by the tsunami and subsequent earthquakes..

            there has been alot of toxic aand nuclear waste dumped in at least 2 known locations 200 km off the eastern coast of japan (reported here at enenews…)

            WHAT is in those dumps?? what hapenned to those dumps?? has any contamination leaked from these locations?? what testing has been done on the seafloor to find ut the condition of these dumping sites??

            and then theres daichi spewing into the sea/aquifer?? :(


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            • Anthony Anthony

              It is a radiated planet for sure for the next untold thousands of years. It IS the planet we hand over to next generations and they will not know the difference. We will but we will also be going and gone with that knowledge. I bet in the future many people wont even know about Fukushima. This shit-show has already gone over the cliff in terms of possible right-action moments we saw come and go already. At this stage I'm just going along for the ride. As long as idiotic liars are at the helm I remain braced in the emergency landing position.


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      • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

        Back ground levels are the accumulation of 50 years of testing. THEN they massage the numbers… Kinda like the unemployment rate is only 8% with only 63% of Americans working.


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  • arclight arclight

    CHOICE OF CRITICAL RADIONUCLIDE BY CALCULATION OF ABSORBED DOSE RATE
    IN BIOTA, IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF HIGH NATURAL RADIOACTIVITY IN BRAZIL

    "…Currently the ICRP has developed the concept of environmental radioprotection, in the scope of protection of biota (ICRP, 2003), proposing an explicit environmental radioprotection (ICRP, 2007) based on the concept of animal and plant of reference (ICRP, 2007) and proposing environmental transfer factors for environmental modeling, aiming to calculate dose in biota.
    This work aims to use the absorbed dose in biota (in freshwater fish) due to natural radionuclides, as a tool for pointing out the radioecologic importance of these radionuclides…."

    http://acpr.org.co/new-web/trabajos/ern_12.pdf

    ICRP and the IAEA.. need i cut and paste more :( ??


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Independent testing from sources that prove to be trustworthy might convince some people to eat fish again. Until then, good luck.


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  • Max1 Max1

    A coworker of mine who's a news hound and reads all the Corporate News publications was SHOCKED that she never read about Green Peace in France and how they smoke bombed a nuclear site via paraglider to demonstrate how truly vulnerable these monsters are.

    No clue had she because she had read Corporate News…
    … She asked me why. I said it's because its what you read.


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  • mikael

    The number may be true, and that dont alter nothing, infact.

    The issue is this, there is wast distances to cover by air and sea, but I could remeber High redouts erlyer and in the Tube.
    I could remeber high redouts from 500 mils outside the western coust of Japan. The One major factor that makes the Comparison Driwel wourthless is the Scop and the Sarcofage built ower the reactor in Tjernobyl.
    That is NOT the case with Fukushima, and we have 3 (known) reactore chinasyndromes, and I have also noted the Others reactore siter is also reported, meltthrue and -out.

    The second is size, the constant downplaying servs Nobody, absolutly NONE, exept the ShearHolder in the Nuc, camp.
    And NOBODY else.
    I am absolutly certain that with this rate, and the exponential growth of radiation escalating in ALL the sites, will eventualy lead to the Death og USA/Cannada/Mexico/Pasific Island comuetys.

    And still we vade around this sea of driwel and fill the viod with utter lunacy and lies about Nuks.

    Just remeber this, a autoimune disorder reanges from Diabetics to Reumatic problems a.s.o. this is a slow evolvemnt that will NOT be reported and conected to the Nuk, ind. despite aløl the testings. Canser is an extreme evolvment in a cell stucture and that will cause the major problems.
    All this will come creaping over the coming Years.

    This is NOW a crime against us all.

    peace


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    • voltscommissar

      love that conversational spelling style. Better than my Russian, that's for sure. спасибо
      Должны ли мы вернуть коммунизм?


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  • Jon_NY Jon_NY

    Alaska Says Testing Fish for Radiation is Unnecessary

    http://www.ktuu.com/news/alaska-says-testing-fish-for-radiation-is-unnecessary-20120507,0,6539779.story

    Probably not necessary to test the seals and polar bears that have been exhibiting signs of CRS (cutaneous radiation syndrome) for months now.


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    • StillJill StillJill

      No,…but they ARE testing Alaskan flight attendants uniforms!

      Too bloody funny!


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Now that's interesting. I read just last night on the WA State DOH website that our state is assisting Alaska with testing for plutonium on one of their islands:

      http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehsphl/phl/projects.htm

      "Office of Environmental Laboratory Sciences Assists State of Alaska with Analysis of Plutonium in Samples from Amchitka Island."

      "The State of Alaska is investigating the ratios of Pu-238 to Pu-239 in marine vegetation, fresh-water fish, and other samples collected on Amchitka Island. The scientists conducting the investigation wish to compare the isotopic ratios in the samples taken from this island to the known ratios from worldwide fall-out.

      "Several laboratories are participating in this work, using a variety of techniques to analyze for Pu. Because the levels of Pu in these samples is so extremely low, special techniques are needed to achieve the sorts of detection limits required. The Office of Environmental Laboratory Sciences’ Radiation Chemistry Group is working on samples of ashed material, from which Pu is chemically separated and purified, then analyzed by High-Resolution Alpha Spectrometry.

      "For more information on this project, please contact Blaine Rhodes, Director, Office of Environmental Laboratory Sciences."
      (blaine.rhodes@doh.wa.gov)


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      • What-About-The-Kids

        Well, that was interesting…I just fell down another rat hole (kind of like a rabbit hole, but instead filled with the ugliness of nuclear rats):

        After posting the info above about WA labs helping Alaska test for plutonium on Amchitka Island, I did some searching, as I had never heard of Amchitka.

        Apparently, as the furthest, most remote island in the Rat Islands chain in Alaska (just 87 miles from Russia), the U.S. did an underground test of a nuclear device in 1971. At the time, they weren't aware it was right next to a huge earthquake fault (sound familiar? See Fuku, San Onofre, Diablo Canyon, any of the Japanese reactors, etc., etc., etc…)

        This article from 2001 revealed the concern that the radiation underground from the test was leaking and possibly affecting MARINE LIFE. (Sound familiar? See enenews' earlier articles on the seals, walruses, and polar bears near Alaska sick with legions and sores that were tested for radiation about 6 months ago but the test results still aren't available for some reason. Wonder if the WA state lab was helping Alaska with THOSE tests too?)

        Here's a link to the article (great maps and visuals):

        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/12/17/MN12230.DTL&ao=all

        Is it me, or does the plot just continue to thicken in this seemingly secretive radiation testing business? Where is the citizen oversight & transparency, so we can be assured all is just the way they report it to be?


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        • What-About-The-Kids

          P.S. The title of the article from 2001 which I linked to above is:

          "Researchers worry that radiation from nuclear test decades ago may be damaging marine life today"


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          • Sickputer

            Sounds just like today! 2001 US officials response to fallout from hydrogen bomb they exploded:

            "But the Departments of Energy and Defense have never monitored the waters offshore from Amchitka, nor have they tested coastal rocks, kelp beds or marine animals for radiation."


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            • What-About-The-Kids

              Yes, sadly, an all too familiar pattern.

              If you don't look for it, is isn't "officially" there. Hide your head in the sand, and just pretend everything's hunky dorey.

              "Shhh…no one will know its there, cuz we aren't testing for it!"

              Or: "Uh, er…our monitors were broken…er…"

              Or: "Tell them to BACK OFF", as the NRC said to the National Labs wanting to test for Fuku fallout)

              See? Easy as pie! /sarc


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              • What-About-The-Kids

                This of course leads one to question WHY? What are the motives behind hiding the true data?

                As many here have said before, "Follow the money."

                For one example of what the nuclear cabal is trying to avoid, see my comment this evening in the General Discussion forum about a $2 billion 2001 program to FINALLY compensate workers and families exposed to radiation while working at 317 U.S. sites which exposed workers to uranium during the Cold War. (including Amchitka Island in Alaska).


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        • richard richard

          it's just oout of control isn't it. these nuke fkers just keep spreading so many friggin lies and cover ups.

          and the gullible pro-nukers just keep supporting this poisoning of planet earth.

          so many lies, so much bollocks. never trust a single nuke supporting soul, whether they be a president or a power line installer .. it's all deadly baloney. The whole shooting match.

          The needs to be a law that makes it a crime to poison the future. So now I have ecocide and futurecide to contemplate.

          Sad sad sad. Give the nukers no quarter, pull no punches, they need to learn the lesson!


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          • What-About-The-Kids

            I agree, Richard! There ought to be strict laws forbidding anyone to knowingly poison our planet with such deadly, long-lasting pollution. And for those who do, they must face the consequences of breaking such a law.


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  • covelogibbs covelogibbs

    How about our kelp eating abalone?


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  • arclight arclight

    and talking of covering things of a nuclear/toxic nature

    how about a useful easy to understand "types of reactors" link

    heres the cache whil it lasts.. make a good addition to an information website methinks.. off to download it to word!! ;)

    removed/censored on the 29 april 2012

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:D4DUKTmoNucJ:www.cna.ca/curriculum/cna_nuc_tech/reactor_types-eng.asp%3Fbc%3Dmajor%2520reactor%2520types%26pid%3Dmajor%2520reactor%2520types+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk


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    • 50 years worth of 'some' electricity, mega profits to a few, and a legacy of radioactive contamination that can and will last thousands of years. (?) Makes no sense to me… NONE!


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  • sonnen.blum.239 sonnen.blum.239

    As one who has diabetes and cesium poisoning from the 60's, as well as excessive gamma and x ray exposure, I am reminded that my mother's death is attiributable to heart problems (cesium) and my father'd early death to liver cancer (alcohol haelped by cesium). So what is the safe amount of this material that is ONLY present after fission/fusion of nuclear materials, and does not occur naturally in nature??? Secondly, would not the fish in Washington State be more likely to be contaminated from Hancock and other leaky places, as well as debris and fallout from F?D? Third, it's likely this is part of a concerted effort at coverup, as usual. By the way, my friends think I'm nuts.
    Hellava cost to boil water.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Yes, Sonnen.Blum.239, I think the State probably has big problems just from Hanford's polluting of the environment and the groundwater near Richland making its way into the Columbia River. (See Arclight's link to the eye-opening study on the clams near Hanford.)

      Unfortunately, I also recently learned that in addition to being hit hard by Fuku fallout and Hanford #1 EPA Super Fund in the nation's radiation, the Pacific Northwest also received the highest amount of fallout in the U.S. from Chernobyl.

      Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside… (not!) :-(


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  • sonnen.blum.239 sonnen.blum.239

    Cascades really suffered a great deal, and from what I know of pine needles, there ought not be an excessive amount of radiation present. But as we see levels increase, so will the regulators increase the "safe" amounts permissible, and there fore we will have no immediate nor long range 40 billion year health care issues from radiation. It's just the sun anyway, my detractors say. I can't even hold a conversation with my family about this. But everyday I breathe with more difficulty. I have my measure of health, fresh air, and invisible things in it. We must remain grateful to be enlightened. One of my students asked yesterday, "what do you mean bvy enlightened/" and I had no answer to give.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Sigh…I hear ya, Sonnen.Blum…What do we tell our children? We have such a huge burden placed upon our shoulders now. It is such a struggle for me. I believe we must protect our children from the harshness of so much sad news. They deserve to have as happy and carefree a childhood as possible.

      Still, there comes a day when they will begin to learn about the shameful legacy we've left to them in polluting and irradiating our beautiful Mother Earth so terribly.

      But in the meantime, they deserve to just be kids, and enjoy the sweet innocence of childhood as long as possible. I believe it is the least we can do for our children.

      How old are your students, if you don't mind me asking?


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